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6:02 PM
@MorganThrapp probably yardfeet ounces
 
Metric nautical tonnage.
 
So ask it for the distance between two known points, allowing you to calibrate for units
 
I did that.
None of the measurements match to the numbers I'm seeing. :P
Though I just found stackoverflow.com/questions/25271043/… which says it returns degrees.
Now I just have to wish I had taken geometry classes so I could convert those to feet. :P
 
Fairly easy once you know the radius of the Earth
 
Made slightly complicateder if you have to account for altitude
 
6:08 PM
@MorganThrapp If in doubt, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFF_system
 
Of course, according to SELECT * sys.spatial_reference_systems WHERE spatial_reference_id = 4326, it returns meters.
Which makes me think that the calculator I found on the internet was wrong.
 
"degrees" is a pretty crappy unit of length on the surface of a non-sphere
 
I mean, it's points on the earth, so I guess it makes sense.
 
nope
"degrees" only makes sense as a length if you're on a circle of known radius
a general arc on the surface of the Earth is not a circle
 
Ah, gotcha.
 
6:26 PM
How much precision do you lose by going ahead and assuming that a general arc on the surface of the earth is a circle?
If it's like, an inch lost per mile, that's probably good enough unless you're building a large particle collider
 
user6568562
@idjaw Eyyy, I'm very glad to hear that [ :
 
> The simplest model for the shape of the entire Earth is a sphere. The Earth's radius is the distance from Earth's center to its surface, about 6,371 kilometers (3,959 mi). While "radius" normally is a characteristic of perfect spheres, the Earth deviates from a perfect sphere by only a third of a percent, sufficiently close to treat it as a sphere in many contexts and justifying the term "the radius of the Earth".
Close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades
 
Hey, I have a question...Does anyone else work somewhere where your internal tools are broken 50% of the time you need to use it?
 
I can only communicate with source control if I connect to a special wifi network that has no Internet capabilities, does that count?
 
user559633
@anshanno Yes. I call it Jenkins and Webpack
 
6:33 PM
If I need to look something up at the last minute before checking in, I have to use my phone. I keep meaning to file a reimbursement for the lost minutes...
 
user6568562
@anshanno I spent the better part of my professional life living that. Custom made CRMs running on Java and Internet explorer on a remote desktop.
 
user6568562
Fun times
 
user559633
the year is 2016
terrible programmers maintain their own toolchain
i am tristan and this is my story
2
 
[I HAVE NO TOOLS BECAUSE I’VE
DESTROYED MY TOOLS WITH MY TOOLS.](https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1311_05-08_mickens.pdf)
 
user6568562
6:35 PM
Yo @Robert !
 
Someone tried to apply that dirty cow patch for our hdfs instance and we are on day three of down time. Seems like they caused more harm than the actual vulnerability would have caused us.
 
user559633
@Kevin sick reference bro
 
Hmm, why didn't that hotlink.
I've got the https:// at the beginning, the lack of which is usually the problem...
 
user559633
if you copy and pasted from chrome it's because no http protocol string at the beginning
 
user6568562
Because it's also quoted. You can't have everything in life man
 
user559633
6:36 PM
oh yeah, because chat is feature rich
 
Even without the " > ", it doesn't do the needful. Does it only link http and not https...?
Welp, edit window ran out. Mystery forever unsolved.
 
user559633
A MYSTERY FOR THE AGES
 
user6568562
Tristan was right !
 
I HAVE NO COREUTILS AND I MUST ECHO
It's because it's multiline
 
user559633
6:39 PM
"I have no mouth and I must stream" stories of the Mississippi and other popular waterways
 
lol
 
 
user559633
We're getting pretty fuckin' experimental in here with the chatbox
 
user6568562
 
Now betting on "you copied the text from a pdf, which playfully included invisible unicode whitespace characters or something"
 
user559633
6:41 PM
 
Oh, is it because of that newline right there?
 
user559633
don't mind me, just playing with SO-flavored markdown
 
user6568562
My theory was wrong !
 
Yep, it was the newline. Mystery solved.
 
yup
 
user6568562
6:42 PM
@tristan Is that a BCR 2000 ? (No, it isn't)*
 
Now to go back up and read the messages I've been ignoring -- Oops, Kevin M already figured it out ten minutes ago
 
user559633
"Live long and prospect" Old Timey Vulcan Salute
 
user6568562
@tristan What's the name of the controller on bottom left ? It's so familiar
 
user559633
idk, i just googled "experimental music keyboard"
 
@tristan what kind of synth modules you got there?
 
user559633
6:44 PM
jesus christ all these people that think i still have enough soul inside of me required to be creative
 
@tristan Does that mean thats not you?????
 
user559633
read the room, literally
 
user6568562
Oh, I see. I'm so drunk I thought it was you groovin' it
 
FWIW I knew that wasn't you, soulless shell of an acquaintance
 
buh, I am failing at relational databases you guys
 
user559633
6:46 PM
i'm going to create a gameshow based on the premise of "email title from spammer or mom"
 
relationships are difficult
 
user559633
round one: "you have to see this"
 
round two: (no subject)
 
user559633
round three:
re:
 
yeah my database and I are having relationship problems
 
user559633
6:47 PM
round four: Hello
 
user559633
round five: Meet sexy singles in your area
 
is round 6 male enhancement?
 
@tristan you have a cool mom
 
user559633
If you got relational problems I feel bad for you son I got 99 problems and they're indexed by 1 (column)
 
user6568562
@anshanno Perfect scam, man
 
user6568562
6:49 PM
No one would sue them for false advertising
 
hB0
Hi, I am a python beginner but a windows .NET programmer. I am stuck with some python issues which i m trying to support a non-profit medicine/disease organization.

anybody there with some free time to assist me? Issue is at the moment with python packages, i cant get them installed on ubuntu server.
 
I find that pip install is typically sufficient for my installation needs.
 
hB0
pip install is basic - i am stuck where pip install is not working.. anymore for me
 
user559633
@hB0 read the room rules and just ask the question
 
When pip install doesn't work, I go to gohlke's wheel webpage. But I guess that's only for Windows. If gohlke can't help me, I convince myself I didn't want to install the package that badly anyway.
 
hB0
7:00 PM
when I install pip install transaction it gives error: ImportError: No module named urllib3
so I install: pip install urllib3 and then it gives the same error: ImportError: No module named urllib3
i dont have a problem that I can ask questions and get answer.. i am stuck in a step by step problem, meaning one issue after another.. googling around my issue but now I am stuck. which is why i arrived here in a desparate need for assistance by a python programmer.
 
user559633
@hB0 are you using a virtualenv? docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html
 
hB0
I have python with virtualenv and also without virtualenv - both are failing.
I have tried all combinations of steps as mentioned here but to no resolve.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34973229/virtualenv-importerror-no-module-named-urllib3
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23361432/import-of-urllib3-util-failing-in-python-2-7
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27440060/how-to-fix-importerror-no-module-named-packages-urllib3
 
user559633
stick with the virtualenv. if pip installs it and it's not available to your python interpreter it means the path isn't correct stackoverflow.com/questions/19917492/how-to-use-pythonpath
 
hB0
you can see my stackoverflow profile, I am not a noob. I am stuck in a voluntary work to a non-profit small organization who has no IT stuff but volunteers who all have left..
 
user559633
You keep saying non-profit like it matters.
 
7:03 PM
and you did say "python beginner"
 
@AndrasDeak noob != newb
 
oh, excusez-moi
 
user559633
"stuck in voluntary work" is pretty oxymoronic
 
user559633
start over, create a virtualenv, activate it, and check that the path to python and pip make sense
 
hB0
ok I am sorry.
Tristan, you suggesting me to recreate a new virtualenv, activate it and then make my python script work on that?
 
user559633
7:06 PM
I don't know what state your environments are in, but if you have both a virtualenv and a non-virtualenv, it sounds like you've made a mess for yourself.
 
hB0
"if you have both a virtualenv and a non-virtualenv, it sounds like you've made a mess for yourself." -> Yes, I suppose so, its a mess. and I dont know if I can clean it up easily or not given my python experience.
like i said many freelance volunteers have worked on the server, its very dirty. and on top of that they only have production servers no testing environment.
 
user559633
none of this is relevant.
 
This reminds me of my first internship, where my boss decided to donate 20 old imacs to a nonprofit, but first I had to install Ubuntu on them. Then he changed his mind and I had to install Windows on them. But first I had to put in more RAM, and boy are those RAM slots sharp.
 
hB0
can i create a virtual environment side by side to an existing one?
 
Things have improved since those days, marginally.
 
user559633
7:08 PM
your problem description is: "i tried to pip install urllib3 and i can't import it (after it installs) in python"
 
@hB0 you typed a lot...just go into the proper python env you want to use and wget the modules and pathtopython/python setup.py install
One sec I will paste what I use
 
Anyway I guess my point is I sympathize with hB0's plight, but have no practical advice to give
 
user559633
that makes the assumption his/her project can be configured with setup.py install, which sounds like a bad assumption
 
@Kevin RAM slots are still sharp..... ;( poking your finger in the little clamp thingy hurts lol
 
So much for technical advancement.
 
7:10 PM
Oh I thought he/she was just trying to configure some modules
install*
 
hB0
Can i create side by side a new virtualenv on the same path?
 
It seems Moore's Law applies to transistor size and memory capacity but not RAM slot clamp pinchiness.
 
user559633
@anshanno Sounds like "environment is a cluster fuck, i wanted to install a thing and added more things to the path"
 
user6568562
@idjaw You need to listen to this guy's set from beginning to end youtube.com/watch?v=mRfwdJx0NDE
 
user559633
@hB0 read about the purpose of a virtualenv. if you don't want to go down this path, godspeed.
 
7:12 PM
david august is garbage
 
user6568562
Is that so
 
hB0
I know the purpose of virtualenv and i like the idea. but a virtualenv is already present with Python 2.7.6
 
@randomhopeful all those poor people having seizures
 
You can have as many venvs on a system as you want.
 
hB0
7:13 PM
and without virtualenv Python 2.7.12
I have tried to run the python script with both version and i am stuck where i cant pip install any further.
 
I have ~20 on my machine right now.
 
@randomhopeful no not really, his music is good. My friend met him and he said he was a mean guy
 
user559633
i'm tapping out; not interested
 
@MorganThrapp gotta catch 'em all
 
hB0
can i have more than virtualenv on the same path?
for ex /data/codeproject ? and two virtualenv
 
7:15 PM
Just name them differently
 
> Pip install! Gotta catch 'em all! It's you and me
I know it's my destiny,
Pip install! Oh you're my best friend
In a world we must defend
Pip install! A heart so true
Our courage will pull us through,
 
user6568562
@AndrasDeak That's one damn fine seizure
 
user6568562
@anshanno Well people can be dicks and make good music. The trick is to not ask your playlists to also be your friend
 
politics could learn a lot from music
 
hB0
ImportError: No module named transaction
=> pip install transaction
ImportError: No module named urllib3
=>pip install urllib3
ImportError: No module named urllib3
 
user6568562
7:19 PM
@anshanno I'm digging this Ole Biege guy, I'll check him out further
 
hB0
This is right now the situation inside the virtualenv with python 2.7.6
what to do next?
 
umm...that looks as if pip needed urllib3 for installing in a catch-22 scenario
$ pip install doodlydoo
Collecting doodlydoo
  Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement doodlydoo (from versions: )
No matching distribution found for doodlydoo
 
user6568562
I would import the sh*t out of a doodlydoo module : D
 
@randomhopeful Yeah, he's good. SuperFlu Andhim Monkey Safari are also quite good
 
hB0
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34973229/virtualenv-importerror-no-module-named-urllib3
the first and the last answer did not work for me.
shall i try the second line?
meaning is it safe to do so on the production server, inside the virtualenv?
the wget one..
 
7:25 PM
Nothing is safe to do on the production server until you've tested it on the dev server
 
@hB0 check the site-packages folder for the python env you are trying to install to...See if its in there
#! path_to_python/bin/python...Once you find where it is installed, put this for first line of code to use that python environment
 
@hB0 @KevinMGranger relevant
 
First make sure all modules that you need are installed though
 
"Everyone has a dev environment. Some of us are so lucky to also have a prod environment." - Someone
 
user6568562
@AndrasDeak That's why I hope I'll never have to carry up the burdens of teamwork ever again
 
user6568562
7:31 PM
I mean their reckless behavior, their loud chewing... God save us all, man
 
user559633
@AndrasDeak that's pretty obvious though. guy with the beard is in the right.
 
user559633
by far.
 
user559633
customer emergencies are no excuse to bypass existing process
 
@tristan yup
@tristan and if you do, expect to be bitten in the ass
 
user6568562
Why didn't the digital age fuse into steampunk. That would've been amazing !
 
hB0
7:36 PM
@AndrasDeak I have given the context already i am a volunteer to non-profit and they dont have any environment other than prod. in order for me to create a dev env, i have to start from begining meaning learn linux.
 
ok:D
 
user559633
@randomhopeful because 'google' > 'goggle' is True
 
user6568562
@tristan So sad, yet so convincing
 
user559633
is it a non-profit and are you a volunteer? that totally changes the solution to a technical problem.
 
hB0
@anshanno i execute a python script and installing all the missing packages/imports one by one and i am stuck on urllib3
 
user559633
7:38 PM
it's like in elementary school when you have a word problem that boils down to x + 1 = y, but there's 3 paragraphs around it that need to be trimmed away
 
hB0
tristan, lets focus on the technical problem before going on meta discussion.
 
let's hope that the environment doesn't collapse the second they turn profit-oriented
 
user559633
@hB0 yes sir right away sir
 
@tristan our students sometimes have serious difficulties with those:/
abstractions skills are lacking in our education system, nowadays
 
user6568562
That's because they always were intended to be factory employee farms
 
7:40 PM
not ours, historically speaking
can't vouch for the current regime
 
following our bad example :P
 
nope, we lead the way
pay close attention ¦-|
 
user6568562
Seven billions, man, it ought to derail
 
user559633
Tech meetups for startups are always interesting because MBAs (from area schools) are seemingly told that startups are the new business model to get excited about, but MBAs are pretty useless (at startups)
 
haha
 
user559633
7:45 PM
actual conversation i've had:
"sure, I could see bringing on a cofounder, what experience do you have?"
- "i have an MBA. (full stop, waited for my response)"
 
can you actually hear the bubble pop?
 
user559633
well, we're not in a market "bubble", at least across the entire industry
 
user559633
oh, or do you mean the bubble around the person thinking that an MBA == knows how businesses work/is useful
 
yeah, sort of
although start-ups do have a very weird hype too
 
user559633
yeah, i seriously don't "get" the hype
 
7:47 PM
just today I saw an advert for General Electric saying "come work for the 127-year-old startup"
might be pushing it
 
user559633
haha, okay.
 
Tsk tsk, tristan. Rejecting cofounders for not having experience being cofounders. How about letting them be an unpaid intern cofounder for six months?
 
user6568562
@tristan Coding is so easy, if you disregard every basic human interaction guideline and no one thought of an idea before. That's hype fuel for modern day media
 
user559633
@Kevin Oh god, that's even worse -- taking on someone to help you dig your grave foundation that looks to you to be told what to do
 
7:49 PM
Is it possible to do an if-then-else in a list comprahension?
 
yes
pro-tip: try googling "list comprehension if else"
I'm feeling helpful
 
yea without luck... I got this : "".join([x[::-1] for x in sentence.split() if len(x) >= 5]) but i also want words less then5 but not reversed
 
user559633
@ERH [ False if x==-1 else True for x in [0,0,-1]]
 
user559633
I'm feeling slightly more helpful
 
user559633
@randomhopeful Coding is a very small part of tech startups, unfortunately.
 
7:51 PM
I actually google your exact question, fixing only the typo, and got an answer
 
Hint: the else clause is mandatory in an if-then-else expression.
 
I try harder then, thanks!
 
@KevinMGranger you don't actually have to fix the typo, google is great at that stuff
 
I was double-reverse lazy
 
user559633
Try Hard 2: Try Harder
Try Hard 3: Try Hard with an Exception
 
7:53 PM
ok i failed super hard at that googling, sorry guys
 
Live free() or Try Hard
 
user559633
@ERH it's all good :)
 
we like feeling helpful :> ;D
 
user6568562
@tristan I can imagine that, frankly. No enterprise could survive without know-how, dickishness, discipline and luck
 
user559633
programming syntax can be hard -- a dusting of snark doesn't necessarily mean anyone is angry
 
user559633
7:55 PM
@randomhopeful and connections. and/or just throwing sales people at it
 
darn slow, day..... system at my work place is down, meaning i cant compile any code / test anything that has to do with my work stuff. The team that has clearance to fix it, is off until monday, and yet some how I'm suppose to still look busy, guess I'ma just google some random coding questions and burn some time...
 
@MooingRawr I thought you didn't have any work to do
 
user6568562
@tristan And those f*ckin' connections, man
 
@AndrasDeak I have work, when I get tickets to fix or develop... got one yesterday >.>
 
you sound like a vastly underutilized bread-based maple-based programmomat
 
user559633
7:57 PM
a duck typist
 
user559633
dammit, you ruined my bread joke
 
:(
I wouldn't have gotten it anyway:D
I guess that's just adding insult to injury
 
I am.... basically when there's work, there's a mountain of work, meetings, teaching people stuff, developing stuff, not enough answers to all the questions. But when there isn't work, I sit on SO, in here or reddit and waste my time away. The latter is like 80% of my days....
 
Ducks eat bread that people feed them. Mitch Hedberg had a whole routine about it
 
user559633
ducks eat bread, duck typing, programmers type for a living == duck typist
 
7:59 PM
and bread is still bad for them and for the natural waters:(
 
user559633
wasn't my best work, but far from my worst
 
ducks are so yummy, but not enough meat on them T.T, roasted maple glaze ducks are so yummy though.
 
@tristan I got it once I realized it's bread-related
 
user6568562
@KevinMGranger That guy is a genius, man. Only one liner I can enjoy
 
cheers:)
 
user559633
8:00 PM
yeah, it's all about the grains and oats for ducks
 
sweet sweet algae and seaweed
 
user6568562
Nice, I can feel my wisdom tooth poking in. Just what I needed
 
poking where?
does it have room?
 
user6568562
Apparently not, and I can feel it through my gum. It's a tooth alright
 
user559633
8:03 PM
Sounds like a job for a dentist. (oral health is no joke)
 
user6568562
Man, I hate those well-intentioned torturers
 
half my wisdom teeth are only partly out due to lack of space at the back of my mouth, yet they haven't given me any trouble so far
anecdata, of course
 
user6568562
I think I'll wait until the radiating pain gets unbearable then I'll call for an appointment
 
IANAD, but if there's radiating pain, that's not a good sign
 
user6568562
@AndrasDeak I know you can't tell, but I envy you so much right now
 
user559633
8:04 PM
the orthodontist that took out my wisdom teeth left a shard of a tooth behind and i eventually took it out with a pair of pliers
 
@randomhopeful sorry, wasn't trying to brag:P
 
user559633
that's my fun story about wisdom teeth and pain
 
@tristan wat
 
user6568562
@AndrasDeak I know, man, I know :D
 
user6568562
@tristan That's some 127 hours sh*t
 
8:05 PM
I went to the dentist a month or two ago and found out I had 8 cavities. That was fun
 
for an appropriate meaning of "fun"
maybe an acronym? f*cked up night?
 
"fun"ding for my dentist's new bike
 
user559633
@AndrasDeak yeah, it seemed like the guy thought i was being drug-seeking and complaining about pain, so he refused to refill the prescription and didn't want to revisit the area. i got dry sockets a couple times and when it didn't heal, i decided to just investigate it myself
 
@tristan I'd think that something like this is covered by warranty, and in a country like yours you could sue them for damages or at least an apology
or just pull out one of their teeth with a plier, call it even
 
user6568562
@tristan These ego stories are so horrifying, man. What could he lose to just take a look ?
 
user559633
8:08 PM
@AndrasDeak yeah, i was 20 and seemed like it was more trouble than it was worth
 
I'll just assume that not-20 tristan is a bit wiser:P
 
user559633
@randomhopeful yeah i think it was his ego and just refused to think he misread the situation
 
user6568562
@tristan He's an idiot
 
for some reason many doctors have the worst ego
lawyers too
 
user559633
@randomhopeful agreed.
 
8:09 PM
maybe it's the "I got a Dr from a university degree" effect?
 
user6568562
@AndrasDeak Yeah and judges and prosecutors and every goddamn human with some form of power over another fellow human
 
Well joke's on them, I have power over fellow humans too. The power of imagination.
 
user6568562
Now that's a power I can dig :D
 
@tristan holy crap that's insane
 
user559633
@AndrasDeak i have the power of delusion. with our powers combined, we form: dissociative disorder
 
8:13 PM
\o/ we're kings of the world and nothing can harm us
 
user559633
@WayneWerner hey man, if you got a leatherman, you don't need no fancy health insurance or highfalutin medicine man
 
I'm starting to think you were destined to meet a Tristanovka (#stereotypes)
 
user559633
northern people :)
 
right, I read about those in my books:P
 
user6568562
I still have hope that I'll meet a randomhopefushka, one day
 
8:17 PM
As I've stated multiple times, I fail to comprehend the size of your country, and I don't think of North/South USA as something very North/South
even though I know that Florida is essentially tropical, and I know that Canada is Way North™
OK, I looked at a map and you're not North at all:P
unless google maps is messing with me
 
user559633
yeah, not that north, but weather patterns mean for similar weather
 
user6568562
Landscapes in Massachusetts are pretty crazy. It's like God started creating the US after he learned Photoshop
 
@tristan we're 5 degrees North of you:)
 
user559633
and the roads look like someone just learned how to play simcity
 
user6568562
8:23 PM
Haha :D I remember you mentioning that. It was my first week on SOPython
 
but we're well inside a continent, so obviously different climate for many reasons
 
user6568562
Well, I like those route tracing. It must be hell to memorize but it is sweet to look from above
 
user559633
@KevinMGranger nice. yeah, and that's a more coherent area to drive in
 
user6568562
Also, all this natural green
 
8:27 PM
something something weed
 
user559633
Aug 4 at 16:03, by tristan
user image
 
I think that's the one area of Boston I've driven in. Twice. Help
That's near that big open area where they have Boston Calling, no?
 
Makes me glad that I only walked and took the shuttle both times I've been to Boston
 
Err, used to have it there, apparently
 
Er, not Bostom, Boston's evil shadow counterpart. I've never been there and I've definitely never bought pickled nocturne from the Twilight Market >_>
 
user559633
8:30 PM
 
user559633
another gem
 
Such baseless accusations. Why is it so hot in here? I'm not crying, you're crying.
 
DSM
@Kevin: that feels like it's referring to something but I get: No results found for "pickled nocturne".
 
user559633
sometimes when driving i have to pull over to laugh. the roads are as pictured and the drivers on them are both aggressive and polite while trying really hard to drive while having no idea how to do it
 
I was channeling the Neil Gaiman Neverwhere aesthetic, but made up the details myself
 
DSM
8:32 PM
Well done. I remember Neverwhere-- I recommended it to a friend, and he asked, "is this a TV series? It has the pacing of one" after reading it, which was pretty perceptive.
 
user559633
like, stop in the middle of a rotary to let people in, miss their turn and stop and try to back up while laying on the horn (example from yesterday)
 
@tristan backing up in a rotary, bold move, Jim
 
Just a little over a year ago, we got a small dusting of snow here.
Can't wait for this year's fun!
 
user559633
@KevinMGranger haha. awesome. (i hope no one got seriously hurt (just hurt enough to learn to not drive like jerks))
 
you know nothing, Jons Snow
 
8:34 PM
Not that I know of, but I heard of people's commutes that night turning into 7-9 hour ordeals
That's where, if I didn't have a dog at home, I'd just stay at a hotel or the office overnight
 
My own hometown has a nonzero number of roundabouts, which I understand is fairly unusual for an American city. Many times I have had to decide between letting someone into the circle even though they had a yield sign; or moving heedlessly forward and trusting my life to a stranger's ability to intuit never-before-seen traffic laws.
 
user559633
back when i lived in $colder_place, i'd just wait for an hour after the snow fell for people to already crash if i could leave at least half an hour before
 
The solution is to drive a massive SUV with top crash safety ratings, but make sure it looks like a rustbucket. Right-of-way will be created for you.
 
Do you guys have jughandles? Jersey is crammed full of jughandles.
 
user559633
@Kevin my solution to this is to slow down and eat multiple lanes so you have an option in case that person has no idea how to handle it
 
8:36 PM
I honestly prefer jughandles. Seems safer.
 
Chicago can't be seen from space? Weird
 
user559633
Yeah, with all the shots in Chicago, I'd think at least a few of them would be from cameras
 
@tristan The one I use regularly has one and a half lanes, so there's not a lot of room to maneuver.
 
wim
huh... backslash in the filename :P
 
8:38 PM
Less than an inch of snow in raleigh = i.imgur.com/GiHLyDK.jpg
 
Or rather, two lanes for 180 degrees, then one lane for the other 180 degrees
 
@anshanno the camera adds a few inches
 
user559633
@Kevin ah :( i'd probably go wide and lay on the horn so the person thinks "what an asshole", which is fine, because that means they noticed my car and didn't crash into me
 
I just honk constantly while I'm driving so I know everyone is aware of my position and speed.
 
@randomhopeful cheers thanks
 
8:40 PM
 
user6568562
@idjaw Oh, I'm just the messenger of some crazy awesome thing
 
Oh, how can I fix this? And why isn't it a directory? — Jack Gruber 35 mins ago
 
If they measure my speed accurately enough, then I might be home already!
 
Because it's a file? Point at the directory? These both seem obvious. — davidism 23 secs ago
 
user6568562
Driving should be a therapy against the idiocy of mankind
 
wim
8:41 PM
 
soap on python is absolutely horrible
 
Print it out in the template where you're having the problem. Literally output each variable as you reach it. Debug. — davidism 3 mins ago
 
user559633
@wim Pretty
 
@AndrasDeak What if they know the magnitude of my momentum but not my direction? We can cram all the uncertainty into that half.
 
People are really having trouble with basic data today.
 
8:42 PM
why would anyone need to make things so hard and complicated, look at rest, so simple and beatiful
 
user6568562
A hardcore form of therapy, like monks beating the sh*t out of you to raise your tolerance to pain
 
wim
soap in any language is horrible
 
yeah but it does not help that there is a single soap library up to date for python
and just reading the documentation makes me cringe
trying to wrap my head around soap in general
 
wim
thats because everyone uses json / http
 
Just recolor that and you've got some nice vaporwave album art
 
wim
8:43 PM
you only use soap when there is some crappy service you have to interface with and you have no control over it
 
@Kevin dunno how the momentum magnitude commutes with position...
 
which is where i am at @wim
 
I wouldn't bet my life on this loophole:P
 
wim
QED :P
 
im just trying to figure out, how i can create my web calls, based on the WSDL, trying to find a pattern, then the rest should be okay
for example, the wsdl sets the location to localhost, and i am supposed to overwrite that
 
user559633
8:48 PM
user image
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user6568562
Hahahaha :D
 
user6568562
That's one itunes cover art
 
 
there's so much I love here right now
 
<3
I love how that nerdcop background looks like a slice of pizza
in other news, I'm hungry
 
8:54 PM
(props to the retro wave text generator for doing the hard parts)
 
Oh, Antii isn't here. Darn it.
 
user559633
blah, it doesn't support the characters i need
 
user559633
 
user559633
wanted root@miami$
 
user559633
8:58 PM
+100 to kevin for finding this
 
 
user6568562
@tristan Dude, I know it's a far away project, I've gotta zillion of those. But I really believe I can help with that
 
It's the sexy sweltering spinoff that the Nerdcopiverse desperately needed
 
user559633
@randomhopeful :) when i fail out, and after i return from rehab, we can work on it together
 
user559633
8:59 PM
Well, it would be a Nerdcop reboot
 

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