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12:01 AM
Got all powers back :)
 
@Drew finished with it, thanks
 
12:22 AM
No problemo
 
1:11 AM
Fiddly thing: Should we close or answer: stackoverflow.com/questions/38809799/…
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Without knowing C++... I'd leave it. It's been downvoted but not obvious OT
 
1:25 AM
@PraveenKumar Did already. May be general computing ..., networking ... applies even better.
Sounds like selling your soul to the devil :): stackoverflow.com/jobs/companies/flow-traders
^For free snacks and drinks and such shit!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ well, you will be working with people that play in the bond markets and the likes, so it isn't a stretch
 
@Braiam Yeah. Playing pacman and pool billiard all days long ... Sure :P
 
hey man, i work in finance
i write the software for it, but I would consider my career "in finance" simply because that's the purvue of what my software is doing <.<
 
@Compass Hopefully you're not developing high speed trading bots. That's just as bad as doing military killing software IMO. I have some ethical principles.
 
1:40 AM
Nah I regulate them
 
@Compass "in" != "for" ;)
 
2:10 AM
@PraveenKumar @Machavity you guys around?
 
there are weird hot meta post today...
 
yo @Rizier123
I am chatting with the guy maybe above
 
@Drew Give me the go ahead if it becomes clear, and I'll cast a reopen
 
sure thx. I sort of just woke up and wondered if you PHP guys find it clear. That is why I was trying the guys above
 
@AdonTeck User below 20 rep enters chat? How so??
 
2:24 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ they can join, but nothing besides that
I remembered when we helped testing that captchas thingy back then... I still don't know how to solve it chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/2743399#2743399
 
 
1 hour later…
3:38 AM
@Drew Off and on. Whats' up?
 
trying to make some sense out of this guys PHP question
will let you know if I need a question reopened
right now he is trying to explain his universe to me in another room
 
 
1 hour later…
4:41 AM
Anyone around?
 
4:53 AM
@FrankerZ just about 6am on a Sunday - so - not so much so - how you doing?
 
I'm doing alright
 
Glad you're around. I'm having trouble with Mr. Plagiarizer again
 
You have a few minutes to talk? There are some borderline plagiarized answers, and I don't want to eat some declined flags
 
4:54 AM
sure
 
 
1 hour later…
5:59 AM
Well that was quick =)
 
You realize that there are only few people in SOCVR when you see such spam posts in the mod's spam queue :)
 
Morning @AshishAhujaツ
 
batch027 count=41 cv3,4 is in the beehive
 
user3956566
6:55 AM
@rene can I post a few more CV requests?
 
Holy cv-pls batman
 
user3956566
ok that's it, let's see if they get closed
 
user3956566
@FrankerZ I do that not even once a day, count up every one elses per day
 
It's a joke :P
 
user3956566
ah k, I get sensitive here, as I get censured often. ;)
 
6:58 AM
@Yvette I don't think there is a problem if you post more requests, but the requests you're doing are on old question (at least some). I don't think they need to be brought to our attention and closed immediately.
afk for an hour
 
user3956566
@AshishAhujaツ are you serious? They all have received recent answers.
 
user3956566
It's like when my children tell me how to drive.
 
user3956566
I don't dig out old inactive posts and ask for close votes
 
user3956566
@rene how come people don't instruct you on what you are close voting, why is there faith in what you do and I am frequently treated like I'm incompetent please tell what to do to receive this same air of authority and failth?
 
user3956566
ok I'm out of here for the day bye
 
7:50 AM
@GregP ah well. I didn't see that. Sorry
 
8:03 AM
^ Couple more flags please
 
@GregP I'm not sure, maybe my flowerish appeal?
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@GregP I don't see how that is an true offsite resource request. Their code loads all fonts which they want to prevent. That the aswers are spam-ish is not the fault of the question.
 
@rene Looks fine to me too
 
@GregP I cv-ed the others
 
8:24 AM
afk
 
user3956566
@rene ;)
 
user3956566
@rene I took it from this last sentence 'Or if no then please suggest me any alternative for this. "
 
8:39 AM
@GregP yeah, I can see that ... maybe I'll give it an edit ...
 
9:32 AM
Sounds like it needs a mod flag more than a closevote?
 
I've been flagging already.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Better disengage from that C++ comment thread
It's been caught by queen, and you generally want to avoid any interaction with people calling you a troll.
 
@Kyll Everything said what's needed now.
 
Also yeah that was really fishy, but generally when you have a user calling names on you you really want to disengage. Most of the time it delves into utter inappropriateness.
 
Jim
@πάνταῥεῖ this is the same "what is google" guy from yesterday?
 
9:50 AM
@Jim Do please try to provide actual reasons in your requests, in that case "No MCVE". Voted.
 
Jim
@Kyll done and noted.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Deleted, user nuked, my mod flag was marked helpful
 
Mission Red Star to nuke duplicate user was successful!
 
=D
 
 
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11:10 AM
Hiya
 
@Tunaki o/
 
1 message moved to SOCVR Request Graveyard (manually moving because of the formatting, but post is closed)
 
11:34 AM
\o
 
11:55 AM
Can anyone make sense of this question or even edit it into a better shape? cc @Drew
 
12:21 PM
Leave me alone, OPs ><
 
12:41 PM
@GregP With rene's edit, this looks OK now. Do you agree?
 
Ah! You edited Tuna!
throws a Pokeball and tries to catch @Tunaki
 
wiggles
@Kyll Hmh really? On second though, yeah, agree.
 
@Tunaki Could also be Offsite Resources
 
Also fairly unclear
Sorry for the wall above by the way, the Watch is busy.
^ What the hell? Accepted immediately after more than a year?
 
It happens yep.
 
12:55 PM
> Member for 5 years, 8 months
O_o
 
Just checked, nothing fishy in sight. Meh.
 
I've seen it happen too
probably a case of active asker and "oh shit I completely forgot about this question! Thanks for bothering."
 
afk
okay, now afk
 
1:15 PM
@Tunaki ?
Oh
Never mind
Blue line tells it was >10 minutess ago
And that Barclay thing was closed 8 minutes ago
Everything's fine
@Yam Nope.
 
user3956566
@Tunaki meh a little open ended, but not the end of the world
 
2:18 PM
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
@Kyll that question is all set no need to reopen. stackoverflow.com/q/38800719
 
@Drew Won't future users benefit from it?
 
the only benefit is not in that question
 
plus there are a million PHP loop questions of doing it the wrong way
 
2:28 PM
Uh.
 
frankly I look forward to casting a delete vote
 
bah, roomba will take care of it, if it says closed
 
K.
Welp, went through all open requests
 
if you read the question a few time and then think about this .... it is junk. And if the it were self-deleted and the guy spent the time to do a self-answer of How Do I import Fox Pro data to PHP.... then I would upvote that one
 
I guess the only ones left are mine and a bunch on which I already voted / ignored
 
2:36 PM
stackoverflow.com/q/38815157/3933332 Sadly this guy made so much effort that he even pressed the "ask question" button.
 
It goes to show you how you should never EVER release methods with security flaws: stackoverflow.com/questions/38815157/…
You can be sure, 20 years from now, guys are still going to use it.
 
There is a security flaw in java and python and c# etc for the same issue. It's how you use it
 
although weirdly enough, there aren't that many questions abusing Statement in Java
 
Hello!
 
Hey
 
2:45 PM
same for all db's or the popular ones. oracle msft etc. They allow for multi-query. They execute the string you concat. blah blah
It really isnt so much of a security flaw half the time. It is a brain flaw
 
Haha
 
I close vote your brain then ...
;)
 
use your hammer, rene
 
The day I finally see the end of mysql_query will be the greatest in stackoverflow's history
 
@Kyll you're mean ... you know I don't have one :(
 
2:50 PM
@rene Your meta hammer then?
 
@FrankerZ I doubt we will live long enough to join in the celebration ...
@Kyll hmm, hammers on main and meta don't mix
 
@Tunaki One last
 
I'm still very far from my Meta hammers... need more answers...
 
3:09 PM
@Kyll is it really though?
 
Meh.
Solved with update is no repro, no?
 
not installing A isn't really a typo
ah, I missed the "update" part.
Hmmm, still maybe it can be useful - I can see people having the same issue
 
godaddy burn request. Yeah right. Who is doing that one.
 
Lots of posts... it's low on our radar.
 
would require 10k close votes
 
3:14 PM
hopefully, all of them aren't close-worthy
 
alright, 10k man hours
 
nice find, thanks. This should earn rep, really.
oh boy, he discovered a nest of unclosed dupes
 
4:05 PM
@Ashish @Seth Added to the Watch
Welp.
Just had a VLQ flag on a recent answer by a 34k marked helpful, answer deleted (LO). So sad.
 
Jon Skeet is human ...
 
4:36 PM
@RiggsFolly you could phrase that comment a little better here stackoverflow.com/q/38814630 :p
@Machavity any thoughts on this thing stackoverflow.com/q/38813796
 
@RiggsFolly Not sure if it's too broad, the question is really asking if there's a way to see all constraints that would be violated, if the deletion query was made.
Maybe there's a dupe for that? (cc @Drew <^)
 
yeah i will look thx
voted unclear too broad (well to me it is Too Broad). But it had 3 at unclear so whatever
awful question
 
Tbh, I don't know of a way to do it.
 
@Tunaki Its a nonsence question. Answer is code your app correctly
 
Well, that doesn't make it closeable. In fact, wouldn't it be interesting to have a way to know all the constraints that are going to explode when you make your statement, instead of one by one?
 
4:49 PM
I think it is a closeable question but am staying away from it due to a lack of templating engine stuff or any leg to stand on
It is a quora dot com question
 
The guy should not be getting FK errors. Spending time on the output is like time wasted
 
that is for sure
 
No I was referring to the quora thing on the Expression Language one. I wouldnt close vote the FK one
 
@Tunaki In fact, wouldn't it be interesting to have a way to know all the constraints that are going to explode when you make your statement Is that not called Know your database
 
4:59 PM
That's the ideal world :D but sure, I never had the need also.
 
Afterall all you need to do is look at your schema (even if you did not design the database yourself) and then design you app accordingly
 
@RiggsFolly psss: he uses
 
Even worse Drew, I used which is even on top of JPA :).
you don't even need to write anything, there's magic all around doing everything by itself
 
5:23 PM
Hiya everyone BTW
 
could use del votes now
 
orms: If I worked there, I would immediately ask for the raw query interface and say no thanks. Of course, they wouldnt hire me to begin with
 
Hiya
 
@Tunaki That was the plan hehe ;) ...
We really should gain rep for all these actions. There's too rare occasions to see on-topic questions coming in that deserve to be answered.
 
5:29 PM
Well, I remember you asking a Meta post for rep for dupe closure
Didn't go that well.
 
@Tunaki Yup. I know that wouldn't be an appreciated FR. Though I just wanted to state that here. I think our work and efforts on closing and deleting questions is actually important and should deserve some incentive. But well ...
 
Flagged both
 
@Tunaki Just another idea: What would you think of regaining close votes for actually closed/deleted questions?
 
May 17 at 16:06, by Tunaki
Votes should be refunded when a post is deleted...
 
@Tunaki Done
@Tunaki How do you find old messages so quickly?
 
5:42 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ --------^ :)
@Kyll It's actually called "memory". A concept Spearrel can have trouble with :p
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@Tunaki Should we go at MSO/MSE for this?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I don't know. See the following messages chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/30595681#30595681
 
@Tunaki OK, that's true.
Undeletion is a problem actually
 
Yeah. I didn't think of a good way to handle it.
 
But at times we have such half baked concepts like documentation made it in our "real world" well :( ...
 
5:48 PM
He that wasn't the first time I said it apparently chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=29863698#29863698 :p
 
@Tunaki I think we all had that idea sooner or later when running out of daily votes and notice a BAD question afterwards :)
 
Still there
 
Buddha hoga tera baap.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ you don't need to waste a del vote on those, let it die from flags
 
probably my fault. I was just trying to slap a freeze comment in there
 
@πάνταῥεῖ 100%..
Check the full one...
 
@PraveenKumar What's the full translation?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Show the original one?
I am not a Hindi guy, but I do identify the bad or unpleasant words. Where did you get from?
 
@PraveenKumar You mentioned the account name, was there more?
 
Ah...
Yea, it is disrespectful.
 
6:00 PM
@PraveenKumar I guessed it was hindi
 
Say something, and I say your father in a sarcastic tone...
@πάνταῥεῖ First of all, where are you from?
 
@PraveenKumar Sure, claiming you're someones father is kinda diss
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Ah!! You are not from India, but from Germany... Okay, you don't understand. It's offensive. Period.
 
@PraveenKumar Bavaria. We've got thick skins here :D
 
@πάνταῥεῖ LoL.
 
6:01 PM
\o
Some people from northern germany even feel offended by some of our regular dialect terms :)
They think´we're generally rude and crude. They oversee it's mostly just the climatic circumstances ...
 
@PraveenKumar So back to my original concern: I was asking you because I was bothering about flagging that account for moderator intervention to be nuked completely.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yes...
Better to be nuked.
 
Oh don't mind about that. It's going to be nuked pretty soon.
 
@Tunaki :)
Waffles for you...
 
6:13 PM
@PraveenKumar Aww there's no flag link anymore :(
 
@πάνταῥεῖ :D
 
Some mods go through MetaSmoke and destroy confirmed spammers.
 
@PraveenKumar Did use the question for flagging now :D
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I didn't flag...
Yet...
 
@Tunaki Sooner is better :)
 
6:18 PM
@Tunaki is metasmoke some sort of log used by smoke detector?
 
@dorukayhan The contrary. MetaSmoke is only the web interface of Smokey.
 
@Tunaki Ha ha.. True.
 
@PraveenKumar that question can be made clear with little to no effort... i'd argue it's too broad or opinionated rather than unclear
 
@dorukayhan Nopes...
Anyway, it's supposed to be closed.
I feel it needs more information.
The main context where it is used is missing, and I also commented it out.
Anyway, it's closed.
 
@PraveenKumar Wow you already have 93k rep. Get to 100k to get your swag :P
 
6:23 PM
@Rizier123 Waiting Waiting Waiting...
Check my reputation history now... Gone down in ditch...
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
How is this different from previous answer? Would you mind explaining it and what do you do? When you aren't explaining anything and just throwing a code, it means like you aren't genuinely answering it. — Praveen Kumar 7 secs ago
 
Is this a good question to use in a review audit? It doesn't even seem to be about programming. stackoverflow.com/q/38326147
 
6:45 PM
@NisseEngström Were you hit by it?
 
@Drew I removed the mysqli tag. I don't see anything PHP in the question
 
well, barely any
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yes. I passed it though.
 
@NisseEngström It's a questionable audit indeed. I think the engine did choose it judging from upvotes on question and answer.
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 29 minutes and 30 seconds, averaging to a review every 44 seconds.
 
6:55 PM
there is a batch in the beehive that Ashish wanted help with if anyone is willing. It has about 8 closed and 30 questions at cv4
 
@Jim Erf I hate those questions...
As if parallelism is the golden solution to speed.
 
@Tunaki yeah divergent is better : )
 
@Tunaki Especially on single core machines :P ....
 
@PetterFriberg thinking.... still thinking..... divergent, the movie?.... still thinking... not getting it :)
 
Antonyms
 
7:11 PM
That query makes my eyes bleed ^^
 
sound like a good plan to let all thread diverge
 
Everyone's dead at Charcoal. :o
Is this spam? Just confirming ell.stackexchange.com/questions/99928/…
 
Meh
Really terrible question.
 
@TIPS I would say so .. and that ^
 
@TIPS Looks like spam to me
 
7:14 PM
I think they're asking if their website is using correct English.
 
I would not go for spam, but close and delete
 
Because they're French and they don't know how to speak English, obviously.
 
Facepalm
You guys need to agree among yourselves first. :P
 
Yeah all French are like that (its joke to start a fight with Tuna)
 
@PetterFriberg That doesn't happen fast enough on ELL.
 
7:15 PM
I say you reply in Spanish :P
 
I don't think it's spam.
 
@Machavity Or Thai
 
@Tunaki Left my 2¢ there.
 
Yeah the site does not seem like a spam target...
 
French fries what?? What did I miss the last minutes?
 
7:18 PM
@PetterFriberg But it is self-promotion... Not sure if that changes things enough for a spam flag tho
 
@Tunaki ok, on second thought .. I do like their honesty Do not worry if you don’t understand or remember everything at once. It is not possible!
 
@TIPS Funny SE site :)
 
Yah
 
@Machavity I'm just stating my opinion, but I have no clue what is allowed on that english
 
I've been there for two years and I'm still trying to figure out its people.
 
7:20 PM
@TIPS Arguable. But finding that at an english learners site is eeehm a bit strange :P
Are we actually also review close votes at other SE sites than Stack Overflow?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Don't think so
 
@πάνταῥεῖ nope
 
not even meta
 
Not even zeta.
 
That was more a rethorical question from the context ...
@TIPS Well, you asked?
 
7:26 PM
was it rhetorical though?
--pedant flag is on
 
@Tunaki Of course, you know me good enough being a brave citizen here, don't you?
 
hmm, it answers the question
 
spam? yeah
 
Spam (advertising whatever, monetizing or not)
 
I don't believe that's spam
 
7:29 PM
I would go for n, not k
 
I delete voted.
 
I voted VLQ
 
Offensively complains about downvoters, gets downvoted more, question closed
 
off to Meta? :)
 
Feels like Karma.
 
7:31 PM
And he removed the post
 
@Kyll Gone
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Closed and deleted by owner
 
8:14 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ you and lightness are firing queen a lot .. : )
 
@PetterFriberg Regarding the borderline rude stuff posted recently? I'm blonde myslf BTW ;)
 
Oh, Yam's got a new noose tie.
 
Still, just single white hairs :D
 
@πάνταῥεῖ (S)he's a yeti.
 
@TIPS Lightness is Tomalak. Long story :P ...
 
8:20 PM
And an easily upset one at that. I
. . . had a situation with them a while ago.
I was on the mods' side, so as right as it gets on SE, I guess.
 
@TIPS Yeah, don't trigger them about that :)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Well, I wouldn't if it were SO, but it was my site, Chem, so we went there.
I wonder if they still hate to participate on Chem.
Backbites more
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit is an absolutely brav and helpful citizen at Stack Overflow. They didn't find their rep in their cornflaces box
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yeah, a respectful cool kid and I'm cool with that.
The situation is to blame on HNQ features, not people, really.
 
@TIPS _HNQ _ Disclose please, I'm dumb :(
 
8:31 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Hot Network Question
No worries; it's a fairly common acronym in meta.SE and throughout SE, but not so much on SO, apparently.
Considering how weird SOCVR acronyms are . . .
 
@TIPS Ah, yes. I noticed it's a hobby of them to follow nearly everything appearing at SE.
@TIPS LoL \o
 
@πάνταῥεῖ And many other people. A con and pro of HNQ at the same time.
It's a disadvantage since it's literally an overkill for any other site's moderation.
SO even doesn't notice since it's drowning in questions.
 
@TIPS I don't mind people having fun :P
 
Well, you always see people whining about it on meta.SE, and I understand them.
But really, HNQ is meant to be nothing more than entertainment.
People take it more seriously than it is.
Esp. Gnat.
"gnat", actually.
 
@TIPS Who cares about whiners, c'mon :P
 
8:35 PM
@TIPS well, even the tooltip appearing on the frontest page when you hover over a hot question admits that the hnq algorithm is arbitrary
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Whiners suddenly sounds like a good name for some kind of chocolate cake trademark.
@dorukayhan Well, you need to be them to know how they feel.
A simple joke gets thousands of views while other quality questions do not; and occasionally, on sites like Workplace, mods have to repeatedly purge comments.
It takes a toll on ya
 
@TIPS I love @gnat. He's so angular :>
 
I perhaps don't fully get the pun, but he's one of the most compassionate and knowledgeable people of SE and its workings.
@Tunaki I won't go that far.
 
@TIPS May be given away as cold comfort hehe :)
 
8:39 PM
well I voted to delete it, I'm pretty sure it isn't a serious answer
 
@Tunaki Not sure, but certainly a displaced person ;)
 
Alright, I need some sleep.
 
Sleep is for the Weak
2
 
BRB changing username to Weak
 
8:50 PM
@FrankerZ Or for younger people. I'm too old for sleeping. Seems being a common problem :P ...
 
batch027c count=15 cv4 is in the beehive
@AshishAhujaツ it is dwindling away
 
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