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12:00 PM
blargh
@PraveenKumar shoot
@kayess Crazy too broad question. Do we need to use OO PHP for a small project? Very small! :)
:29033653 Are you alright?
Go to Doc Tuna!
@Drew unsure if you have already tried but you could maybe try inviting Stephen Muecke to our CV forces, in C# field for instance.
@Andras \o
@PraveenKumar Depends, what are the details?
@kayess Say for example, this project: Wikitten - I believe it doesn't need OO PHP for having only a single page .php file application.
@PraveenKumar It has lots of php files listed
12:03 PM
@kayess Leave the libraries... Only the index.php files does everything.
Does that file need to be OO PHP?
I feel like it is an overkill.
My shot on this is that's really just a taste of mouth. If you don't need to split it out across multiple devs, just doing it yourself, you may not need to have good OOP/OOD for a single page site. But then if you want to follow good OOD practices, you should really split it out to multiple classes, files etc. to just obey SRP, and there could be other book length opinions I could list here.
@kayess OOD? What's that? Object Oriented Dev? How is it diff from OOP? And SRP?
@PraveenKumar You develop that wikitten?
12:08 PM
@kayess yo
@AndrasDeak Yoyo soon lunch time \o
@kayess No just contributed... :)
I am gonna rewrite the whole thing...
Spoke to the author and he's happy to merge all the stuff...
@kayess Performance-wise, what's your take? OOP or Traditional?
So if you are in the mood to learn new thing or train yourself and have enough time to burn for "nothing", then I advise you to do it using OOP thinking.
@PraveenKumar Noone can answer that really from remote. Code both and run your fav. profiler on it.
@kayess Ah... Okay...
Only thing that was bothering me is, why to beat around a bush for a simple stuff.
user3956566
12:12 PM
@PraveenKumar is that you really??
@PraveenKumar As said to get yourself familiar how to think proper OOP way
@MsYvette Which?
user3956566
wikipedia
@MsYvette LoL yea! Then who! :P
user3956566
sent you a fb request!
12:13 PM
@MsYvette Sure, thanks.
user3956566
I dunno someone else called PK
@PraveenKumar Do you follow me still?
@kayess Yes...
Thanks. :)
@MsYvette Accepted! :)
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@PraveenKumar I know I already posted on your timeline!
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12:14 PM
I better get back to my game
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@AndrasDeak exactly!
Oh hi @AndrasDeak
@MsYvette @AndrasDeak That's a cricketer with my name. I came to this world first before he entered Cricket! :) LoL.
@Tunaki hey!
@PraveenKumar good job!;)
@AndrasDeak :D :D
user3956566
12:16 PM
@PraveenKumar he's older than you!!!
@MsYvette When I was born, he was not a cricketer. :) I meant that. So is his Wikipedia page.
@PraveenKumar oooh:( I misunderstood as well:P
user3956566
@PraveenKumar he was a baby! LOLOL
@AndrasDeak Ha ha ha...
@MsYvette LoLoL
user3956566
omg I got to get back to my 2d game..
12:16 PM
it's still great!;D
user3956566
hello @Louis \o
@MsYvette o/
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ok before I go, I'm thinking of changing my name to Yvette votes please
@MsYvette getting married???;)
@MsYvette Don't ask for votes! :P
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12:18 PM
@AndrasDeak hahahaha nope
@AndrasDeak Ha ha... LoL.
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@PraveenKumar bahahahahahaha that is too funny!!!
@MsYvette Bwahahaha!* :D
@MsYvette What about Ms Tunaki
:p
user3956566
@Tunaki it sounds a little fishy hahahahaha
user3956566
12:19 PM
ok I will give you guys a week to come up with the best name
Maybe we can ask Meta.
user3956566
the winner gets to see the name as my name
user3956566
yes!!! hahahahahahaha
@Tunaki And get... :P
user3956566
that would go down like a lead balloon
12:20 PM
lol
I think both are great. Ms Yvette is probably more conspicuous.
user3956566
yes I was thinking of cranking it back.. but I feel like a school teacher when people ping me!!! which is kinda a nice rush of power too!!!
as in John vs BM John
@MsYvette haha:D Duchess Yvette it is!
user3956566
BM John?
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hahaha omg can you imaging meta... O>O
12:22 PM
@MsYvette "letterletter first name"
user3956566
as a name ^^
there are a bunch of Daniels and Johns and whatnots around, all look the same to me
user3956566
yes true
anything disambiguating makes you stick out
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My last name is Colomb
user3956566
12:22 PM
oh now here he is and I pinged him
of course "Ms" is an extra out-stickingator-accessory
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hi David \o
@MsYvette Omg! Pinging me while I'm in Spain!
Yay I just had my first "Nice Answer" badge on Code Review \o/ codereview.stackexchange.com/help/badges/45/…
user3956566
oh you lucky duck!!! I'm so jealous
user3956566
12:23 PM
@Tunaki congrats darling
I only found out I was going 5 hours before we left!
user3956566
I must go back to my game
@Tunaki Downvoting in progress...
@Tunaki in 14 hours? damn...
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@Kyll bahahahahahaha
12:24 PM
@AndrasDeak Hmm?
@Tunaki answer --> 14 hours --> 10 upvotes, nice answer
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I live in a low-traffic tag here
it took me months to get +10 on a proper poopy RTFM answer of mine, which are the best for harvesting:D
@MsYvette Can't downvote myself. I can create a sock puppet to do it though.
"harvesting" lel
12:25 PM
I know CR is not SO, I just noted. Good job, that's the point.
afk
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@Kyll sniff missing you
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@AndrasDeak and you!
Noooo @Kyll
user3956566
12:31 PM
well that's great following a unity tutorial and it says press play and see what happens.. nothing happens.. hmm
user3956566
^^ that would be a tops good question for SO
Be sure to add a huge screenshot.
user3956566
yes!
@MsYvette Screenshot? Pff, peasants. Actual Scan of a Printed out Photograph of the screen for code, if you may!
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@Magisch yes! yes!! even better
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12:36 PM
anyone here used unity?
I thought about flagging this abomination of a question but I'm not sure what criteria would fit...
Also: hi!
seeing the pings in my inbox I expect drama here.
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hi!!!
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@rene no not at all. jsut including you in relevant discussion
@rene Did you really expect everything to be fine?
user3956566
12:40 PM
@EricD. CV unclear
@rene @Tunaki set the cat on fire. Again.
Im sorry
back
@MsYvette does user-side count?:D
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@AndrasDeak for ideas for my project, yes :D
@MsYvette and aaaaw thanks
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@AndrasDeak you're welcome :D
12:41 PM
@MsYvette done, thanks
@MsYvette I've seen...stuff, I guess? Funky casual flash games, mostly
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@EricD. pleasure
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@AndrasDeak I'm working on an apple tree demo..
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It should be ok once I am comfortable with the IDE
@MsYvette is that an iOS thing?
12:42 PM
Morning
user3956566
it's not rocket science, although it does involve basic physics
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no
user3956566
hi!!
@MsYvette Make a slime rancher addon
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No, it can be any platform Andras
12:43 PM
now basic physics sounds much better;)
ranch even more slimes today with YvetteSlimes!
That's not polite to say "no" to someone greeting now Ms Yvette
@NathanOliver Hiya o/
@NathanOliver hello
user3956566
I have the slime rancher bookmarked in my brain (for my next therapy session!!! hahaha)
If you wont do it, I will
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12:44 PM
@Tunaki insert grumpy cat meme.. Morning.. no
I shall have my different breeds of fluffly tabbyCat slimes
user3956566
omg that does sound cool
user3956566
anyway I better find why it's not doing anything..
user3956566
brb
OK, looked at the question
12:49 PM
What is the problem of editing posts that are about to be destroyed? If the post is deleted, they will loose their rep, so they won't receive any reputation for it
@Ferrybig I guess Tunaki is bugged by the principle
"press DELETE, not EDIT"
assuming that the editor found this in NATO
it did come 5 minutes after the answer
got rejected
group effort:D
user3956566
Doesn't the edit reset flags?
@MsYvette I think it depends on the flags
SPAM deleted? Use sd gone (postgone is no longer needed, ). Not SPAM? Use sd f and sd remove.
user3956566
@rene ah k thanks rene
user3956566
12:52 PM
@KevinGuan yes we use gone not postgone
Pr0blam solved
I am not so sure on that NAA @Tunaki. The OP has the typo in their code so that answer could be directed at the question. I think it it still a comment to the other answer but just in case...
@Tunaki hey hey hey where's your downvote on the answer?
user3956566
How does an edit affect people voting to delete a post?
ran out of downvotes? would sound like you:P
12:53 PM
@MsYvette it doesn't. delete votes are like close votes. other actions(flag/edit) do not affect them
@NathanOliver What do you mean?
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@NathanOliver thanks Nathan
@Tunaki Well that answe says there is a typo and in the OP's code there is a typo. the accepted answer has it fixed but they did not mention that you have to change it as they changed how the whole thing works.
@AndrasDeak Not possible, NATO requires 10k
@NathanOliver That's an answer you're reading there
12:54 PM
@NathanOliver yup
@rene As room owner, can you delete chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/29032661#29032661 as it is no longer relevant? It shows up in the sidebar
@Tunaki sorry I meant this, whatever it is
@MsYvette Ah, happy that the pr0blam get solved :D
@MadaraUchiha It is? I'm lost.
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@KevinGuan it's all good love :D
12:56 PM
@Tunaki I mean, it was posted as an answer
!!/blame
But it's a question
@KevinGuan It's Ms Yvette's fault.
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@Ferrybig done, thx
@MsYvette ^ Yes :P
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12:57 PM
@KevinGuan I know!!!! Smokey!!!
@Tunaki The OP has admin-ajax.php in their code. The accepted answer changes it to 'admin_ajax.php' which is what that "NAA" answer says.
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@Raju hi \o
afk again
@NathanOliver, I think you are refeering to different NAA flag...
@MsYvette, hello
12:58 PM
@Tunaki He is refereeing to this
user3956566
@Raju have you been here before?
@NathanOliver Aaaah yes I was confused
user3956566
@PetterFriberg you forgot the link ducks :D
12:58 PM
Yeah. I didn't see there was two of them. my bad.
user3956566
@NathanOliver you need to get smokey to make you a coffee
@MsYvette, Yes.
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@Raju welcome :D
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@Raju were you needing help with anything in particular or just here for a visit?
@MsYvette, Thanks :) , I am looking for few instructions on some plugin for firefox. I have to read my past conversations with Kevin Guan, TinyGiant
@MsYvette, I have found my conversations. Actually, I starred those instructions. So, not an issue.
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1:03 PM
@Raju oh good. You're welcome here any time :D
Hi @Raju! :)
@PraveenKumar, Hi Praveeen
@Raju Nice to meet you... :)
Tamil theriyuma? :)
@PraveenKumar, Tamil teriyadu. Telugu .. :)
@Raju Wow... Nenu telugu vaade! :)
Okay, great to meet you! :)
1:08 PM
:) wow .. really nice..
@rene Quick question about Smokey: A report is a rude troll (not a rude deface). k or delete?
@PetterFriberg OK, and why did you hold back? I mean if you feel that relative new user is open for feedback and you have an idea how to salvage that question, be my guest. Worst what can happen is that we have to move the discussion out of this room if it didn't turn out well. I'll re-visit the meta-post idea in the mean time.
@Kyll I would say k
@KevinGuan No, more like "Please go flower your friends and family because I love you you beautiful people" (in reverse, obviously)
@Kyll Ahhh what is it anyway?
1:12 PM
@Kyll I have preserved your legacy in my code
@KevinGuan .... Y'know, someone who created an account only to insult everyone
And who isn't a coder
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the coworker is not motivated enough to refractor it so now a whole module in my code is kyll-ified
@Magisch I'll transfer the sue letters to you
@Kyll Seems it's still like ASGFASFABFSSFS since it also makes no sense.
@KevinGuan Well, those posts should also be flagged as rude and destroyed
1:15 PM
Should be destroyed - correct. Should be flagged as rude - discussing.
@KevinGuan what r you discussing?
@Kyll People who still have their sanity
@MadaraUchiha High-five?
@MadaraUchiha Im a apprentice and my sanity went long ago
@Kyll Do I look sane to you?
1:16 PM
morning!
@MadaraUchiha Do I?
Plop!
Unrelated: javascript wtf, for those who haven't found it yet
@Magisch Three different answers here. I'm still confusing on it: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/310177/…
@AndrasDeak Nice! Was about to update my RSS :D
Hey gunr
1:17 PM
Hey Nathan
@KevinGuan There isn't much room for discussion. We want to see those posts destroyed asap. Two things allow us to do that: Spam flags and rude flags. Spam flags are meh because they feed incorrect posts to the spam learner. So let's settle for "abusive" and flag as that. Whether or not the wording of the flag corresponds to this specific case is bureaucratic.
> Let's talk about Javascript.
+1 for the WAT reference
-1 for the lack of capital "S"
@Kyll that's as if the subject was an STD (and not the C++ kind)
@AndrasDeak You didn't watch the WAT did you?
@Kyll WHAT? OK! YEAH!
no, didn't really get that reference, sorry
1:20 PM
oh right, you didn't understand that last time either
@AndrasDeak Let gunr make your day better
@Kyll please do:D
@Kyll Sure if you don't care a declined flag...wait, -1515.94%...nevermind.
@AndrasDeak And this is why I stay away from JS.
1:22 PM
lol:D
@NathanOliver That's a bad reason
There's plenty of good reasons to stay away from JS =p
commutativity ftw:D
@AndrasDeak All true
@AndrasDeak Hilariously insane
1:25 PM
Although I thought eBay ran arbitrary pages in an anonymouse iframe?
LOL this is great:D
@AndrasDeak Knew you'd enjoy it
It's bugging me how WAT is pronounced "wet", I always assume everything's "whut"
@Kyll I did, a lot, thanks:D
@Tushar Not so sure. It could be reshaped to focus on memory consumption
@Kyll 3 CV's already
1:34 PM
@Tushar Gave OP advices to solve this issue, didn't really fix the post. Can hardly be salvaged and I don't want to persist. I agree with the closure.
@rene I did not comment since their was already multiple comments from SOCVR users on question (current FAQ tell's us to hold back ; ) and its not about a single question.... Pinging you mostly to keep the issue hot and pass some good examples...
@PetterFriberg If there's a lot of comments from the room you might as well invite the user here, given they have enough rep
Its not about single question... it was about the idea I had when we single handily close a question, since I was the last one to vote (and users seems able to edit, work on question)... I would have liked to pass a pre baked comment to user in-line with SOCVR rules....
Well yeah, you totally should do that
Sleep time for me now. Bonne nuit!
1:39 PM
Bye k-man
Bonne nuit!
@Kyll Current FAQ tells us not to do this (you and MsYvette) had already commented... I will wait for the SOCVR Team to decide what they like to do ecc.. no hurry.
@PetterFriberg Which entry?
Im pretty sure every decent developer would vomit at the sight of this barely working VB6 code
@Kyll (sorry it was not you but kayess) I repeat its not about single question, but giving example relative to my idea... anyway .... stackoverflow.com/questions/35697124/…
1:44 PM
I meant which FAQ entry ^^
@MsYvette, few min back, I have visited the site. For the first time, I have installed the script. So, I am just checking , how this script working ..
@Kyll A post is to be actively handled by only one member of the room. (We don't need 4 members all leaving witty statements in the comments or in chat.)
@PetterFriberg (number 9. @Kyll)
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@Raju you should see a link under the post you want to ask for a close vote? And you put in there a short cut reason, I will get you a link
@Magisch remove "this barely working" from that sentence.
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1:46 PM
@Raju here
@PetterFriberg Oooh yeah that one. Well, this isn't exactly a witty comment, so you can go ahead. You could also ask the requester to leave a comment in the same fashion (for example: "Could you advise the OP to edit to focus on one issue instead of 37?")
@Cerbrus Could also trim "decent"
user3956566
@Raju for that ^^ I pressed the close reason and with that was included a CV request.. not sure if you get that with your rep
> Every developer would vomit at the sight of VB6 code.
Perfect
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Tushar, Cerbrus ideas for Raju above ^^
@MsYvette, Thanks. I got it.
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1:48 PM
ah good :D
@Cerbrus I just looked at some of my code base
Cleanup at isle 4?
I dont have time to refractor a whole 200k lines application
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If anyone ever needs to find a bad question to use as a cls-pls example.. just go tag - android
@MsYvette Or JavaScript
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1:52 PM
@Tushar I believe you!
Is there query to categories the by the lang/technology in this room
Anyone in here good with VB6?
@MadaraUchiha Right
@Magisch VB6. And what is that
@Magisch May God Have Mercy Upon Your Soul
1:54 PM
@Tushar It is unwise to attack JavaScript when there's a ninja around
@MadaraUchiha Why? VB6 is *eye twitches* great fun
@Kyll Meh, JavaScript has a lot of drawbacks
@MadaraUchiha Euphemism ninja!
But no more so than Java or PHP or most other languages methinks.
user3956566
@Kyll a pointy star throwing numchuck wielding ninja
1:55 PM
and the proper word is shinobi:P
@MadaraUchiha Well yeah, but when you combine a lot of drawbacks + an enormous accessibility you get a lot of noobs running into walls head first, repeatedly
@Kyll They can have fun with that

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