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3:00 PM
Most likely.
 
Thanks guys, that makes a lot of sense!
 
yes, i know that ignores other differences like arguments..
 
I find it helpful to use babeljs.io/repl to see how things de-sugar sometimes
 
My new approach with quirks of new language features and old language features - run away from them like fire.
 
3:02 PM
I've had nothing but success with es6. cleans up all my code.
makes it pretty, and that's the most important thing
 
babeljs.io/docs/learn-es2015 is also your best friend
 
indeed.
ohh, fuck you :)
 
Heh, you people are weak.
 
Nobody here uses firebase :o ?
 
I stopped at "tinyurl" but it was close.
 
3:04 PM
I just try really hard
 
okay.
 
Firebase is a cloud services provider and backend as a service company based in San Francisco, California. The company makes a number of products for software developers building mobile or web applications. Firebase was founded in 2011 by Andrew Lee and James Tamplin and launched with a realtime cloud database in April 2012. Firebase's primary product is a realtime database which provides an API that allows developers to store and sync data across multiple clients. The company was acquired by Google in October 2014. == History == Firebase evolved from Envolve, a prior startup founded by Tamplin...
 
@Nick Very well played though, saw an opportunity and took it without hesitation.
 
I didn't click at it because I don't need to go to that babel page anyways
 
A true predator.
 
3:04 PM
@ton.yeung I recommend it, it's very nice - although that was years ago, even talked to the CEO a few times.
backend as a service is great for prototyping stuff.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum well I was the one asking for a recommendation but hey thanks :-)
or have you ignored me :-|
 
I got to know just a while ago that Google bought firebase
 
@AwalGarg most likely as a response to facebook buying parse
 
@Abhishrek where?
 
ohh, so that CEO is filthy rich, now
 
3:06 PM
I missed it, I'm in the middle of reading code.
 
Just joking.
 
fuck whoever decided the uboot needed changing :( fuck them with a rusty fork .. god damn I now have to port my application to a new fucking OS before we can send anymore out.
fuck!
!!afk crying in a corner
 
don't update it to the newer version?
 
hardware ships with it
 
A starcraft professional got banned for a month for saying the lead balance designer at blizzard needed to get raped with a tire iron a couple years ago
 
3:07 PM
I can flash the emmc (takes like 45 minutes) or I can spend a week porting it over to the new OS
 
oh, fun
 
Similar to fucking rusty forks
 
@Cereal Raped with a tire is a good one :D
 
@ton.yeung I highly recommend it aswell
 
tire iron.
 
3:08 PM
I like my version better.
 
> Starting kernel ...

Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.
but the kernel never boots
 
^ That's a tire iron
 
rusty, too.
 
That's the tire Imma rape you with ^
 
3:09 PM
Am just wondering if I should use auth0 for login with firebase or not
 
Firebase is great indeed. I used it with gh-pages to get a free near to "client+server" website
 
Auth0 is sweet for doing (everything) user
 
Haven't had much use of it since I started using azure though
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/20/… is this really such a big problem over there?
 
3:11 PM
@ton.yeung Can't unsee.
 
@rlemon omg
 
or a small few and its getting blown out of proportion ??
 
@rlemon That
 
@rlemon lmao. It's in religious parts of Jerusalem - it's a problem but not a big one.
 
figured, just wanted to double check. media outlets like to embellish
 
3:12 PM
Some ultra religious people in Jerusalem don't like seeing women on big signs. I think they're retards but it's not very widespread.
@ton.yeung well, next week I'm in Amsterdam, but generally yeah.
 
Jewish or Muslim?
 
@ton.yeung there are, but not particularly many, the sad thing is that they're making a ton of babies (around 10-12 per family, instead of 2.4 in the secular parts) so they'll be the majority in 50-100 years.
In the part of Israel I live (Tel Aviv) they're a small minority.
 
it's alway the craziest of any population squirting out kids
 
I can't stop watching videos of people getting wrecked by runaway tires
 
3:14 PM
like a population cancer
 
@Luggage Have you seen the movie Idiocracy?
 
Of course
 
@Luggage yup, I think the system is problematic.
 
It started out as a comedy, and continued to be a horror documentary.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum ohh god, I made the mistake of opening the comments
 
3:15 PM
I think that democracy isn't really working out great for heterogeneous populations.
 
Why wouldn't you want to see women on big signs
 
ignorance runs rampant
 
Why wouldn't you want to see jennifer lawrence
 
@Cereal Because temptation.
 
3:15 PM
Science has gone too far.
 
And temptation is bad when you're trying to control a population of horny men for your spirit.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum have you used raml.org?
 
Some people hate seeing women that aren't subservient and/or covering their face
 
@underscore REST is dead, also no.
 
3:17 PM
2 hours ago, by rlemon
@BenFortune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ2dI_B_Ycg
 
@rlemon I swear on @KendallFrey's mum...
 
now it is just a game.
 
@Cereal because they don't want people who take nude photos of themselves to be on posters where their kids can see them. They think it's disrespectful for a women to do something unmodest.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum instead ?
 
@SterlingArcher You were wise enough not to do it on your own mom this time.
 
3:17 PM
@SterlingArcher That's Darwin Awards material right there
 
@underscore falcor/graphql.
 
women should only have unmodest things done to them.
(not my view)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum REST is dead because of falcon? I don't think it really played any major role. Did it in the industry?
 
not yet, it's new
 
Yeah, REST being dead sounds like a hell of movement to me :/
 
3:20 PM
API-as-a-service? REST. Internal API for your SPA? Falcor/GraphQL
 
@AwalGarg in single page applications. REST works great in actual API scenarios. The paradigm of writing your code as consuming a resourceful API is dead.
It's super inefficient, you need to share a hierarchy of data. REST means a ton of fetching the same thing twice.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum well... REST is not dead then :/
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum REST is dead? need various sauces pls
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum s/twice/lots and lots of times/
 
i'm writing a HATEOAS REST using Zend . am i need to stop and begin with Falcor ?
 
3:21 PM
But no, REST is not yet dead.
 
cool and all, but it makes me realize in 2005 I was 19
 
I found myself wanting to add a special endpoint to my rest api that took a whole list of queries instead of doing them individually. Then I found mysefl thinking about returning the objects flattened and deduplicated and then put abck into a graph on the client. Then I found Falcor and GraphQL>
 
@AwalGarg I mean in the context of single page applications. Obviously rest is not all dead.
 
It's just not suitable for every app, like any other tools in history ever.
 
@MadaraUchiha yup
 
3:21 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yeah I know that. Also very inspired by the JSON mapping thing.
 
It's not suitable for javascript applications on the client.
 
Anyone playing fallout4??? youtube.com/watch?v=bxSw6iDSujg
 
yeah, never liked it that way ever anyways
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum No arguments there.
 
cc @KendallFrey ^^
 
3:22 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum falcor with android ?
 
@rlemon hahaha
 
crl
when you have a if else, it's faster if you put the code that is used more frequently in the if clause?
 
Run
 
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it still has to do the first test either way, so not much differnce with jsut if/else
 
we don't know either
 
but if, else if, ..., else, then may just a tiny tine bit
it's just a protocol. you have to fill in how to actually get/update data.
so you can use anything
just might need a bit of node glue
 
crl
@Luggage ok
 
it could turn around and do REST calls to another process ont he same server, for example
I bet some migrations start that way
looks like it, unless you want to re-implement, which would be a waste
not everything needs to be in one language
 
3:30 PM
@crl The if block is going to be faster of the two, the else block requires a jmp instruction. In the if clause, making the thing that satisfies the clause the most often first will allow the others to be skipped (e.g. if (oftenYes || rarelyYes) is better than if (rarelyYes || oftenYes)). Still, super micro optimizations, rarely worth it.
 
hopefully you have some proxy layer above you app that can hide the fact that some requests are handles by node, some by php, etc
It does. You need to decide if it's worth it
 
crl
hehe ok Roel
 
organization and documentation can help with that.
 
@RoelvanUden if isn't faster than else
there's a jump either way
 
puppet seems nice, but I'm just barely getting stred with it
 
crl
3:33 PM
@ssube it may depend on languages
 
still in the "WTF" phase
 
@crl nope
 
crl
ok
 
@ton.yeung @Luggage puppet is sweet, once you figure out the weird syntax
 
3:33 PM
yea. I have a single production server that would take like an hour to rebuild from scratch
 
Oh my god xD
 
@crl you have if code else code, which turns into cmp jnz code jmp code
either way you have to hit a jump
 
i'm not sure puppet makes sense. I have docs on what to install adn what commands to run
 
@ton.yeung chef is useful for very small, specific things. Puppet is good for managing machines.
 
but I'm been dabbling in it anyway, ev if it's overkill
because everything is overkill until it isn't
 
3:34 PM
@Luggage then put those in puppet. It's less useful for small projects, but if you have a bunch of similar machines, it's great.
I have a YAML file with a bunch of database info, config data, and stamp out 20 build agents in about 10 minutes.
 
and the most annoying part of deploying is dealing with the staic IPs and vagrant's VMWare plugin costs money, soo
 
@ton.yeung chef is more linear. It's good for handling a single app.
 
i can't even automate that
 
@ssube @crl Most languages I've seen is a cmp je meaning you do the comparison and if equal it jumps. That means for the else it does the actual jmp too, whereas for the if it doesn't. It's super micro and not worth the effort, but it's there.
 
@RoelvanUden It's a jump either way.
 
3:36 PM
@ssube Not necessarily.
 
@ton.yeung Depends on what you're doing. You can use both for a small project.
@RoelvanUden You have to skip one block, but neither block requires multiple jumps.
 
i so wish i used a proper cloud instead of this local co-location place that uses vSphere
 
@ton.yeung Puppet can run without a master.
@Luggage OpenStack can use vSphere as the backend.
 
@SterlingArcher lol bruh
in Sandbox, Sep 5 '14 at 14:02, by rlemon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ see
 
hm
 
3:36 PM
ESXi is a great hypervisor
it's super fast, slightly faster than KVM sometimes
 
yea, it's fine, butt he UI is not so great
 
right, so use it as the backend to OS
 
@ssube And the skip is a jump ;-)
 
and they have stupid settings. i have to create a VM without a network card, ten go back and add it, those little annoyances that'll probably fuck up automation
but again.. 1 prod server, 1 test, so no biggie
 
@RoelvanUden That's what I'm telling you. Either path requires one jump.
 
3:37 PM
cmp ebx, 1 // condition
je _l
mov eax, 1 // if (no jump)
ret
_l:
mov eax, 2 // else (had to jump)
ret
Like I said, not necessarily.
Does it matter? Probably not.
 
ret is just an expensive jmp
 
crl
both have it
 
function calls are the most expensive thing you can do
besides sqrt
 
To be theoretically correct then, the if uses one jmp and the else uses two >_>
 
compared to google cloud and AWS, vshpere just feels like a shitty web app over top of vmware.
spoiled, i am
 
3:39 PM
@Luggage that's exactly what it is. I love their hypervisor, the networking part is great, but the UI is awful.
 
and i have to use safari to upload VMs, then go back to chrome to do other things that are broken in safari
 
@Luggage can you use the local client to connect to a vsphere cluster?
 
didn't think there was a mac client. i have a windows VM with that client, but opening safari now and then is easier
 
oh yeah, they only support win and nix
like decent, hardworking people should
 
the web client is usable enough.
I won't get dragged into that conversation.
probably.
 
3:42 PM
go put more stickers on your laptop :P
 
I am sitting in a coffee shop at the moment, but no stickers, yet
stickers are like tattoos. I'm not against it I just haven't found anything I want to permanently attach
 
I'm actually planning on getting a tattoo this winter
 
@ssube did you end up watching the video I sent with sound?
 
of?
 
nice, what of?
 
Being a DBA doesn't seem like fun. I tried muddling my way through tweaking the database....fuckkkkkk that.
 
gonna do a sleeve of small almost icons of various things that have happened to me, usually good ones
centered around a redwood tree, cause that was my nickname as a kid and works well in ink
just slowly build it up for the rest of my life
 
@ssube nice
 
> i have increased readability
 
birth, diploma, losing virginity, first felony, etc
 
3:45 PM
not get anything in ink until at least like 5-10 years after it happens
 
I got my first ink last winter; it's a text bite from the Rocky Horror Picture Show
 
@SterlingArcher yes, but I was pretty drunk by then
 
Anyone in here familiar with Parse?
 
@Zirak and now I'm going through his revisions rolling back all that do this (this one is even more fucked stackoverflow.com/posts/26568198/revisions)
 
@FlorianMargaine If they target that, I would re-enlist in the AF! :P
 
3:46 PM
@ssube did you end up rev matching the video? lol
 
@SterlingArcher no, was driving like a responsible adult :(
 
@MadaraUchiha As future moderator, what do we do with random person destroying the readability of posts with bad edits?
 
@Zirak edit their SOUL
 
@ssube lmao
 
3:47 PM
@Zirak end their lineage. Salt the earth.
 
I want ink too.. just dunno if I'll ever do it
 
Flag them
 
@Zirak he's editing incorrectly -- he edited 1.f to 1.0 thinking it was a typo
 
Mods can ban from suggesting edits.
 
sweet @SterlingArcher
 
3:48 PM
his edit reason was
> may be that was error... ????? or not?
 
Flag what? An edit?
 
@Zirak The post with a custom "hey, this editor is a derp"
Mod looks at the history, cries a little bit, edit bans them
 
@Zirak Flag the post which was edited, yes.
Oh, the offender is 7k
So no edit ban, but they can privately contact/suspend if it repeats
 
@MadaraUchiha yeah, but how much of that is from PHP?
 
he's also removing all from posts
 
3:50 PM
@MadaraUchiha Isn't edit bans for >2ks a thing now? (you have to manually send the POST request or something)
 
the fuck is wrong with this dude
 
@Doorknob Really?? Since when is that?
 
flag like three of em to show a trend
mods will ban him
 
@MadaraUchiha I dunno, I think I saw it somewhere on MSE. /me tries to find link
 
I have to build an array of objects, so I'm looping through another array to get the values, but when I build this object, how do I push it into an array without a name? array.push({}) ?
 
3:51 PM
@ton.yeung im convinced
 
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A: Allow moderators to manually ban >2k users from suggesting edits to tag wikis

Shog9There's no UI for this, but the functionality exists. Drop this into your console, fill in the userID, optionally adjust the days to be banned, and it's done. $.post("/admin/ban-suggested-edits", {userId:whateverUserId, days:4, fkey: StackExchange.options.user.fkey}) If this is commonly-needed,...

 
!!should I keep jade or convert it all to html?
 
@MadaraUchiha ^
 
@Luggage You should keep jade
 
@AmericanSlime source.map(it => it.value)
 
3:52 PM
This band has a really interesting sound, for metal
 
Oh, never mind, I lied. That's just for tag wikis.
:/
 
LIAR
 
LIAR
 
@Doorknob Not the same feature
That's talking about suggesting tag wiki edits
 
yeah I just noticed that :P
 
3:53 PM
It doesn't work (AFAIK) for post edits
 
so are we meta posting this or ??
flagging
I've reverted a handful of posts
 
@MrsEd - In today's day and age you really have to be overly "PC", and even that doesn't prevent everyone from being offended. My grandmother used to say (long before all this PC started), "You can't make everyone happy, so make yourself happy." All I can say is, it's a piece of wood. If anyone makes it more than that, it's a reflection of their own thoughts. Might not be the popular "I'm going to cowtow to everyone" answer, but it's the stone-cold truth. As for why it was declined? Probably because those who reviewed it saw it as a piece of wood. — Johnny Bones 21 hours ago
swear to various dark gods, I'm going to buy a pallet of shovels and hand em out to folks
 
I've flagged my answer saying they should look at his edit history
 
@ssube I'm kinda confused, paste.ubuntu.com/13366973
 
@AmericanSlime the fuck?
@AmericanSlime results.map(function (result) { return {job: result[0], suffix: result[1]}; });
{ ... } without a name (var foo = {) just opens a block, which does almost nothing in ES5
what you have there is a block with two named labels in it
 
3:58 PM
@ssube What a nice guhy
 
@Zirak the last three rollbacks stackoverflow.com/users/829835/…
all bad edits of his
 
subube is good guy +
 
is it safe to call this.setState in a component constructor (react)?
 
@Luggage why would you?
 
@ssube I get that I have it without a name, so that's why I'm confused because I don't know how to get objects into an array without a name. Is your results.map code replacing my loop or going inside the loop? Never used the map before.
 
3:59 PM
@AmericanSlime it replaces your entire code
 
@MadaraUchiha you know PHP well, stackoverflow.com/revisions/16646134/2 is this true.. I see a lot of PHP from him and they look kinda BS but I don't remember enough about PHP to confirm
 
because I have some code that watches observables and calls .getState() laer, and I wan to re-sue it in the constructor
 

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