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3:00 AM
Er...no?
 
Well, what's the joke then?
 
Why did the fish fall off the bike?
 
your mum
 
user406009
Because the bike was a shitty Chinese product.
 
Oh my god...
 
user406009
3:00 AM
That was falling apart.
 
@Lalaland personally I think it's okay for people to humanely slaughter the animal they raise as long as they have provided good care for those animals.
 
Because the bike went out of scope?
 
@SirCumference-Pies because it was a fish and couldn't ride bikes
 
Thank you.
Ya'll are idiots except for jagged
 
@SirCumference-Pies <3
 
3:01 AM
Well, you promised us a joke, captain obvious. :(
 
A'right, here's another:
What did the homeless man get for Christmas?
 
Hypothermia
 
@SirCumference-Pies but you are easy piece of pie, you told us that yourself (avatar)
 
Goddammit...
 
@SirCumference-Pies Your mom's address.
 
user406009
3:02 AM
@GregorMcGregor There is also a whole subreddit where people make guesses about vulkan (reddit.com/r/vulkan)
 
@Lalaland DUDE I have the provisional spec
 
You know what makes me smile? Facial muscles.
 
It's p much final
 
What did the cow say when it fell in the stream?
 
3:03 AM
@SirCumference-Pies moo
 
@GregorMcGregor gold
 
What's the purpose of putting Vulkan under NDA?
 
Okay I'll reword because it seems you're fixated on the word "Vulkan"
 
it's a cow
 
3:03 AM
@jagged All right, ya wanna hear a good one?
 
@Nooble Giving members the priority when implementing it
 
@GregorMcGregor :/
 
@SirCumference-Pies no guarantees I'll even try to answer it
 
Yes, but doubt you are capable of that
 
"Where do you think graphics APIs will go next for fuck sake" @Elim
 
3:04 AM
All right, first, ask me "Knock knock"
 
@SirCumference-Pies Yes. (Where "good" is defined as at least funny enough to keep me from thinking about kicking you).
 
@Nooble The same with every other high profile project, so you don't spread shit around while it is broken and in development. Usually, the only people who break the NDA are those who are crucial to the project (in case of DX12, three infractions by AMD because they don't give a fuck).
 
@SirCumference-Pies oh hell no
 
.-.
Ya guys are harsh...
 
X2 @jerry
 
3:04 AM
@SirCumference-Pies I've done that to people before. :P
 
@SirCumference-Pies sigh Knock knock
 
Who's there?
 
Freaking annoying idiot thinking himself funny
 
ur mom
 
3:05 AM
@SirCumference-Pies orange
 
._.
@jagged That's impossible.
 
@GregorMcGregor Non-shit shading languages. Actually, that was my proposal to Microsoft itself which got quite a few upboats by many of the studios' R&D heads.
 
@SirCumference-Pies I know the joke, so I turn it into a different joke
 
Fine. Who there?
 
it's what I do with jokes I already know the punchline to
@SirCumference-Pies Orange
 
3:06 AM
@ElimGarak Can we get low level instructions pls
Like warp shuffles and things
 
Orange who?
 
Orange Yurmom
 
@SirCumference-Pies Orange you glad I didn't say Banana?
 
Goddammit
I thought it'd be original
 
@GregorMcGregor That was proposed by Sebastian Aaltonen, but a bit late in the development cycle so it should be for the next minor iteration of DX.
 
3:07 AM
@SirCumference-Pies that would be meeting your expectations
 
Fair enough.
 
@ElimGarak JESUS it's 2015 for fuck sake
 
Plz, pie, get the hint, now every answer to your dumb questions would be 'your mum' ... Except the ones with which you try to self promote yourself, in which the case most probably you would be kicked ...
 
Check this one out:
 
3:07 AM
1
Goddammit...
 
give up
 
@GregorMcGregor They're waiting for C++ modules
 
Fine, how many immature people does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
 
Your mom and a few pubescent teens
 
3:08 AM
Kick!
 
Well, the answer is actually "your mum"
No D:
 
I knew it
 
@SirCumference-Pies I'm not at all sure it was original when I first heard it (which was before most of the people here were born).
 
@CatPlusPlus well they'll be waiting for quite some time then
 
@CatPlusPlus Modules are a running meme by now
 
3:09 AM
C++ is bad decisions and memes which are also bad decisions
 
Why can't Jimmy ride the bike?
 
@GregorMcGregor running implies they're going anywhere.
 
Because he's retarded and/or a cripple
 
user406009
@SirCumference-Pies Poor quality schooling.
 
@SirCumference-Pies he's a fish
 
3:09 AM
He had no legs.
Why did he have no legs?
Because Jimmy is a potato.
 
Ell
I think @ElimGarak is tired of noobles like me talking about vulkan
 
quality jokes there @SirCum
 
And here I thought I wouldn't be able to fall asleep
 
@CatPlusPlus rekt
 
Vulkan is cool, but it balances DirectX 12. People outside of the loop are hoping for Spock himself to come with it, but that's unrealistic.
 
3:11 AM
annihilated, actually.
 
@GregorMcGregor Sorry, but he won't be able to answer for a moment or two...
 
Ell
man webkit gtk is taking ages to compile
 
why did the unrelated thing do the unrelated thing? because unrelated thing
makes sense
anyway I don't care about vulkan
dirty graphics peasants
I only care about OpenCL and SPIR-V
compute master race
 
Ell
SPIR-V counts as vulkan too :P
 
only because we allow it
 
3:13 AM
This is my favorite feature (well, here it checks for it) that we bitched about to get: D3D12_FEATURE_DATA_D3D12_OPTIONS::VPAndRTArrayIndexFromAnyShaderFeedingRasteriz‌​erSupportedWithoutGSEmulation.
 
Ell
@ElimGarak it's somehow reminiscent of java ;)
 
@Ell I think it's the CamelCaseLongFormAndVerboseNameThatDoesIt
 
VPAndRTArrayIndexFromAnyShaderFeedingRasteriz‌​erSupportedWithoutGSEmulationBea‌​nSingletonProxyFactoryFacadeDriverProvider
2
 
@ElimGarak -1 needs more SingletonFactorySingleton
 
Ell
I wonder if khronos will release a vulkan .xml spec thing
 
3:15 AM
vulkan.bmp
 
Guise, is it possible to get irish cream somewhere? I basically know how to get the alcoholic variant (Bailey's Irish Cream) and irish cream cappuccinos.
 
Ireland
fuck you Scott
 
Ell
@ElimGarak I didn't know non-alcoholic irish cream was even a thing
 
Wait, what?
 
I have a tablespoon left of Kahlua, and three days of meds until I can drink it :\
augh
 
user406009
3:17 AM
For interest's sake, how did you get access to the provisional Vulkan spec @GregorMcGregor?
 
user406009
Work?
 
@GregorMcGregor I would say "you're not his type", but well, this is Scott, so you probably are.
 
@Lalaland apply mouth to dick
 
Omg, we have a 0 tolerance for alcohol while driving and I was sipping those for days.
 
@Lalaland the ways of the potato farmer are mysterious
 
3:18 AM
> Irish cream is a cream liqueur based on Irish whiskey, cream, and other ingredients such as coffee, which can be served on its own, as an alcoholic substitute for milk/cream and sugar in a hot coffee (sometimes with whipped cream added on top), or used in mixed drinks or as part of a shot or a whole shot. Irish cream is very popular in the United Kingdom, Canada, and the United States.
Oh, fuck. I had no idea.
 
@ScottW moomblelel?
@ElimGarak well, at least you know now!
 
Well, can't be that bad in cappuccinos, I suppose.
Croatia
 
You guys make me sad...
 
Ell
@ElimGarak ahaha lol
 
@ScottW there's no one here. I'm all aloooooone
 
3:20 AM
I thought my jokes were the best...
;-;
 
@SirCumference-Pies that is a normal and expected reaction
 
no one heere besides me
 
user406009
What's the mumble URL again?
 
loungecpp.sehe.nl
 
Ell
ugh cmon webkit-gtk
 
3:21 AM
But it is so delicious. I can't even... I can smell it even now, days after.
 
@ScottW ;~;
 
user406009
@ElimGarak What exactly did you mean by better shading languages? Are you talking about more high level parralism constructs like OpenMP?
 
He means HaskeLSL
 
@Lalaland Not merely just features, but also basing it on top of C++11+ like MSL, to make shader expression something that one can enjoy.
 
~~a shading language where every pixel is a monad~~
 
3:26 AM
@LucDanton the thing this library seems to be doing is isolating the ADL-enabled functions to an ADL-enabled function specific namespace, and keeping the using statements and implementations in the detail namespace. I'm assuming that it's the ADL-specific namespace that's the main feature (beyond the isolation of the using statements to detail) of your point?
 
Well with SPIR-V that shouldn't be a problem though
 
HLSL is really showing its age, for example.
 
@ScottW have fun then
 
I mean if a company wants to come up with their own language they can
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Theoretically, with SPIR-V, we should be able to use C++whatever.
 
3:26 AM
@jaggedSpire The ADL happens in an adl namespace to prevent, well, ADL from the 'main' namespace. So it is also part of the isolation process.
 
@Lalaland Yup, that's one thing the lava-spewing thingy brings to the table.
 
@LucDanton nods
 
Ell
How does DX12 consume shaders?
 
thanks again
 
user406009
So we could even write shaders in PHP!
 
3:28 AM
I’m considering fixing the last 'hole' by Nieblerising what’s left.
 
@Ell Generates special bytecode which the usermode driver appropriates for the GPU and sends over to the microdriver.
 
@LucDanton May I ask what Nieblerising means in this context? I know Eric Niebler is the guy who's responsible for the new range stuff...
 
Ell
I mean, to write a shader for dx12 I write in what language and then compile to what and then give to the API
In opengl you give the api GLSL source, what do you do in dx12?
I'm bad at asking questions :V
 
@jaggedSpire Essentially a synonym of Nieblifying
 
@jaggedSpire Using functors instead of functions/function templates. If foo is in scope and is an object (not a function), then foo(bar) is guaranteed not to perform ADL.
 
3:30 AM
@GregorMcGregor Never before have I perceived such breathtaking clarity in an explanation.
 
your welcmom
 
@Ell HLSL -> offline compilation to a special IR (which is specified on MSDN fully, sometimes even better than the documentation on the actual intrinsics) -> API -> usermode driver -> microdriver -> GPU for execution.
 
Ell
Right cool
 
@LucDanton oh, that's really neat!
 
usermode driver and microdriver are linked by the graphics subsystem kernel and the API is standing on top of it (and collectively is referred to as WDDM).
Online compilation to the IR is possible, but discouraged in recent years. I mean, you don't really want to do unnecessary work at runtime anyways, unless you're morphing something at runtime.
 
3:34 AM
However IR has the significant advantage of being less cancerous than, say, UV.
 
user406009
@GregorMcGregor Or you could just stay in your mother's basement and avoid both!
 
Spear-Vicious
 
Gregor is too attached to black bodies to avoid IR
 
Ell
I bet as soon as I go to bed my emerge will finish :3
that'll right bother me
 
user406009
No. What always happens is that something causes your computer to restart right after you go to bad.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Well, there is porn for pretty much everything by now ...
 
Ell
fuck it
I waited 2 hours for this thing and it ain't done yet
I need sleep
 
I feel the love
 
@Ell I am currently selling two sleeps for a low price of 1000 caps.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Are these high quality sleeps? Do you get the Well Rested perk?
 
3:49 AM
 
Ell
@Mysticial holyshitballs those notifications
 
@Mysticial wow he seems angry
 
Ell
I need a petit Asian woman to stand on my back. Would you do the honours @chmod666telkitty ?
 
also: Yesss! My exposure therapy is working! I didn't even read how much unclicked rep you have!
 
@Ell @chmod666telkitty
 
3:50 AM
 
@Mysticial fuck you
 
@Mysticial +88k rep nbd
 
Sour cream
 
@Mysticial wow that's quite the hissy fit
 
@Lalaland Stole it from a super mutant who won't be needing it anymore. <3
 
Ell
3:52 AM
Finallyyyyy
 
moronix
 
> error: raw string delimiter longer than 16 characters
no fun allowed
 
If only it weren't uncomfortable to code in bed. Has anyone managed this feat?
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Why would you want to code in bed?
 
user406009
There are much better things to do.
 
user406009
3:55 AM
Like read fantasy novels.
 
user406009
Or sleep.
 
@Lalaland Yeah C++ is a much superior language
 
user406009
@LucDanton What about unicode?
 
this is unicode
checkmate
 
3:57 AM
I see no backslash
 
@GregorMcGregor not allowed
 
Borland C++, best C++.
 
@Lalaland no but seriously this is all the things you can put there
 
Ell
@ElimGarak sit up while you do it
 
the prohibition on backslashes means no UCN allowed; I think, preprocessing rules are not my strong point
 
3:59 AM
what is your strong point
 
right at the top of my skull
 
So my phone has been unplugged for about ~4h now and it's at 39% battery
 
Clearly it doesn't like you.
 
It doesn't like you either!
 
user406009
@GregorMcGregor You need to stop watching porn videos all the time.
 
user406009
4:02 AM
It drains the battery.
 
@GregorMcGregor Say that again to my face m8
 
user406009
In all seriousness, phone battery life is highly dependent on how you use the phone nowadays.
 
user406009
You should look into what background tasks are running on your phone and see if you can kill/uninstall them.
 
user406009
I would also highly recommend buying one of those USB portable batteries.
 
I know this isn't the right room, but is anyone in here familiar with Swift + Parse at all? I have an issue that is driving me crazy!
 
4:05 AM
no
 
user406009
You can buy these 10000mAh bricks that will last you a couple of days.
 
@Nick @Gregor what happened to the potato team?
 
@Lalaland I barely use it
The phone is 4 years old though
don't know if that makes a difference
 
definitely does
 
user406009
Batteries do degrade with every charge cycle.
 
user406009
4:07 AM
Supposedly there are ways to reduce the wear and tear, but I always hear conflicting reports.
 
Someone's on a roll: i.stack.imgur.com/fkQlU.png
That one crosses the threshold for oneboxing.
 
user406009
I always wonder how people can walk through life so racist.
 
user406009
Like, do they never interact with any Jewish or black people?
 
user406009
It doesn't take that much time to see that we are all pretty much the same.
 
4:10 AM
Just a whining troll.
 
Morons work in mysterious ways
 
It's probably this guy:
-1
Q: I have 23 rep but cannot chat

J. Doeon superuser.com I have 23 reputation, however I get a message saying that I need 20 rep to chat, the chat room is superuser > root access.

 
lol give me back my 23 rep
 
Why do you even pay attention to these things
 
4:12 AM
for the lulz
 
lol, the last 10 post numbers on meta.SO is entirely spam and that guy.
 
Those are the quality meta posts.
 
it got plenty of upvotes but zero responses so far
somewhat disappointing
 
@Ell I would be honoured to do that ... But you are looking for a petite Asian woman, I am like (twice the size) of a petite Asian woman :') 😹
 
4:18 AM
@nick I concur with the post: why is there an AOL option on that login?
 
@jaggedSpire yeah I think it's funny how there's an AOL login strategy but not GitHub
 
@nick It's 4 teh lulz, I bet
 
well they trolled me
 
Ell
@chmod666telkitty still smaller than me I'm sure :P
 
4:35 AM
src\game\player.rs:11:19: 11:35 warning: `name.to_owned()` is faster, #[warn(str_to_string)] on by default
src\game\player.rs:11             name: name.to_string(),
owned
Rust has nice useful warnings
 
user406009
Yeah, the Rust compiler is well done.
 
user406009
It often tells you what to do when you get an error.
 
4:47 AM
ERROR: missing semicolon, uninstall pls
You're a pathetic excuse for a programmer
 
@CatPlusPlus just in case: to_string is mostly for display purposes (like Show or str/repr), to_owned kinda like a Clone, to obtain your own owned copy. ofc they do the same thing on str etc., but it’s more or less coincidental. so it’s not just faster or not, it’s also a matter of semantics
 
@nick so alone
 
@jaggedSpire I'M SORRY
 
@LucDanton I think the book had to_string to convert &str into String
 
could be a holdover from past times because things were set up differently before
 
it’s why there’s a compiler warning I’m almost entirely sure, I don’t get why they use the 'it’s faster' excuse
 
@nick abandonment is the cruelest fate. The very cruelest.
 
it used to be that str -> String was called to_string, and [T] -> Vec<T> was to_vec etc.
they all kinda did the same thing so to_owned is the generalisation, and it cuts down on a lot of API repetition too
 
@jaggedSpire You can't make me feel bad. I lack any sense of empathy. I remain unaffected by the woes of people around me.
 
4:57 AM
the new to_string is 'display this thing, and to_owned it for me please'
 
> I'm not particularly a huge fan of transitions like this, saying something like .to_string() is slow I've often found is akin to saying that memory is slower than registers. Of course it's true, and it really matters sometimes, but 99% of the time that's not the case.
 
@nick It's all good. I'll just stay in this empty channel, with no one to talk to.
 
what a great analogy there
 
@GregorMcGregor yup. so for me the error is that you didn’t intend to Display a str more often than not
 
@jaggedSpire I will continue to enjoy my life without you
 
4:59 AM
Is there a try! version that lets you wrap the error in another enum
 
collecting the error from where?
 
@nick Maybe I'll just talk anyway. There will be no one to hear my desperate attempts to convince myself I'm not lonely, so it won't even be that terrible
 
I have a function that has both io::Error and some other error from a library
 
/jk I left about 15 seconds after you did
 
@jaggedSpire :)
 
5:00 AM
@CatPlusPlus I don’t know what’s the current status on that, sorry
 
I enjoy talking to myself
 
@CatPlusPlus How... does it manage that?
 
try! seems to have a convert::From thing in it
Hm
Okay I think that should work
 
Like, it uses out params to return either-or error?
Or is it like a triple of T, errorA, errorB?
 
@ThePhD 'ello
 
5:01 AM
Implement From<io::Error> and From<CborError> for my own Error
So many errors
 
@LucDanton FYI that analogy sucks
 
It was enough to just mention semantics really
 
@GregorMcGregor you left out the <sarcasm> tags
 
@CatPlusPlus Ooh. Kinky.
 
5:03 AM
@GregorMcGregor I don’t like analogies in general
 
@jaggedSpire Hihi
 
@nick Did you know that Luc is very bad at sarcasm
 
@ThePhD converted anyone to the dark side recently? :3
 
@GregorMcGregor I am?
 
thanks
 
5:05 AM
@jaggedSpire No. D:
 
ahaha
 
Albeit I do have a circuit assignment soon.
It's gun b ruff
 
@ThePhD thats what I like to hear :3
 
@ThePhD It's all right, you can't convert everyone.
@ThePhD oooh what?
 
I’d also like to add that I reply-arrowed to the quote and not Gregor’s reaction to it, because I was commenting on the substance of the quote and not the form :v
 
5:07 AM
a logic circuit, an analog circuit? Simulation of a logic gate using transistors? :D
 
@jaggedSpire Adding to an existing MIPS crcuit, IIRC.
 
@CatPlusPlus I also took a look at try! and I guess it’s good enough. Kinda crude though.
 
@ThePhD shiny! So would it take the form of an expansion to the instruction set?
 
I knee-jerk clicked away the banner on SO before I could read the changes on the profile. I went there but I don’t see a difference.
 
@jaggedSpire Yeah, not all the instructions are included.
 
5:13 AM
@ThePhD ah
 
W-Wait
How are you getting me to talk about this so casually?! Circuits are cancer, that's all that needs to be said!
 
@ThePhD You do not know the power of the EE side of the force. taps fingers together
@ThePhD really though I know you like your abstractions but think of it as a challenge: given a specific representation of a number, how elegantly can you define an operation, given only the use of bit-level not, and, nand, or, nor and xor?
It's a hardcoded program in miniature
with the logic arranged in space as well as time. :)
(It's the harmless enthusiasm I seem to project)
People don't realize my enthusiasm has rather large and sharp teeth until after they've been talking to me for a while. :P
 
5:42 AM
q_q
The teeth
they're sinking in
halp pls
 
@ThePhD :) It's all right. In the end, everything becomes fun.
 
laffo I'm gonna use ASN.1 for saves
Because why not
 
it beats saving the whole process image
 
wow Luc using caps
 
5:54 AM
is that so rare?
 
stop stalking me
Am I crazy or is the spec for .* and ->* lacking? It tells you what you can do or what you can’t do, but it doesn’t tell you what it does
 
are you pretending being surprised by C++
 
it’s really unusual though
I mean the whole point of the standard is more or less to say what happens
here, it doesn’t
> The result is an object or a function of the type specified by the second operand.
I guess that’s it
anyway, looks like std::invoke(&foo::my_data_member, foo {}) is an xvalue i.e. dangling ref
 

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