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2:00 AM
I sprayed on a bunch of funnel webs yesterday, but seeing them died today I feel great impulse to cry. How can I be sure I have not killed a bunch of (albeit most poisonous) spider based on my unreasonable fear towards them?
 
it's been changed for a while
 
unstar because of erection
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and by a while i mean a day at least
 
Ell
lol @ unstar
 
@nick that wasn't the question :)
 
user406009
2:00 AM
@chmod666telkitty Do you eat meat? Isn' the meat a more difficult moral issue?
 
because I felt like it
 
user406009
If you are fine eating other animals, then killing spiders should not matter.
 
old one was too goofy
 
Good reason
 
maybe he cried of joy?
 
2:01 AM
No one knows what the old was
 
he thrived on their agony
he devoured their dying souls
 
@nick and here I thought it was donald
 
@nick Wha wha wha
> too goofy
 
Ell
@GregorMcGregor Have you worked with OpenCL before?
 
@jaggedSpire Yeah you can fuse them I think.
 
Ell
2:01 AM
or just CUDA?
 
Ell
do you have a preference?
 
As I become more respected in various elite social circles, I must make efforts to dress appropriately
 
Ell
What is your preference?
 
2:02 AM
But if I did not eat meat, they could just lay rotten. Killing directly is more susceptible to guilt. But thanks, I do feel better now.
 
@nick this is a safe place
you can say 'swinger's club'
 
@GregorMcGregor how do I go about including the using std::begin and using std::end in the decltype, sempai? Or the functional equivalent...
 
@orlp i'll squeeze yo booty
 
sehe the polar bear will protect us
 
user406009
@chmod666telkitty Your eating meat supports the industry of more killing. That meat would not have been rotten, the animals would simply have never been born.
 
2:03 AM
@nick weirdo
 
user406009
Killing directly vs killing indirectly is a somewhat interesting moral discussion though.
 
@Ell CUDA is much nicer to work with and overall more cutting edge. Also the tooling is wayyy better. But OpenCL is non-proprietary so I'm trying to move in a more permanent way to OpenCL.
 
Ell
Yeah
 
user406009
I mean, you certainly feel a lot responsible when you don't see the killing yourself, but should you feel less responsible?
 
Ell
CUDA is just for graphics cards also isn't it?
 
2:04 AM
 
does hiring a hitman make you responsible for that death?
if yes, then so does hiring a butcher for an animal
 
Ell
yes
 
@jaggedSpire I don't think you can, just use decltype(auto)
 
user406009
@Ell CUDA is specialized for NVIDIA. NVIDIA uses it to differentiate themselves from AMD and sell more cards.
 
@GregorMcGregor ...huh
 
2:04 AM
@Ell Yes, but there are tools that can translate CUDA PTX to OpenCL
 
@Nooble the informational diagram I posted above should help you come to terms with my reasoning
 
Ell
@GregorMcGregor Ah okay cool
@Lalaland yeah, but opencl isn't just for AMD
 
Ell
opencl works for computing clusters, DSPs, fpgas (I think?) etc. etc.
 
@nick TRRRRYYYHAAARRDD
 
2:05 AM
@GregorMcGregor just tried it. Nice!
 
38
Q: How do I write an ADL-enabled trailing return type, or noexcept specification?

R. Martinho FernandesImagine I'm writing some container template or something. And the time comes to specialize std::swap for it. As a good citizen, I'll enable ADL by doing something like this: template <typename T> void swap(my_template<T>& x, my_template<T>& y) { using std::swap; swap(x.something_that_is_...

 
user406009
@orlp Yes, but that sort of thinking goes directly against our "moral intuitions".
 
Yeah OpenCL runs on a much wider domain of platforms
 
@LucDanton thanks!
 
@Lalaland I can not parse your sentence, are you missing word?
 
Ell
2:06 AM
@orlp I agree
 
@GregorMcGregor you too
 
@Nooble I am 5 upvotes away from being able to nominate myself
FOR GREATER GLORY
 
@Lalaland which part goes directly against our intuitions, and why?
 
@jaggedSpire ADL is nice and all but it’s also important to keep it at arm’s length
 
Ell
I am interested in learning some DSP
my tutor says he will teach me some next year
 
user406009
2:07 AM
I remeber reading about studies that people are much more likely to support something rather than do it themselves.
 
user406009
Like, many people eat meat, but would be completely unwilling to kill and eat the animals themselves.
 
Speak for yourself
 
@sehe Oh no :( (P.S: thats a rather long 30 min :P)
 
I'd be more than willing to kill... The human animal. moves to shadows
 
@nick nice
 
2:08 AM
@Lalaland I don't have a problem with that
I grew up in a rural place though
 
it shows
 
yeah, fucking peasant(s)
 
I think this is mostly a schism between rural and city childhood
@ElimGarak I love pheasant
 
@Nooble Vote for me and I will build a wall around
4
 
@Lalaland Yeah right, totally. I probably wouldn't eat meat at all if I had to do the dirty job.
 
2:09 AM
You guys should see this guy I work with on the Defiant sometimes, his name is Worf.
 
@Borgleader oh those thirty minutes. Yeah. Tomorrow :|
 
user406009
@orlp For interest's sake, do you support "ag gag" laws which restrict people from freely discussing and recording agricultural practices?
 
@Lalaland of course not
 
I think people should be free to fuck up animals any way they see fit. And then post pics. And videos.
 
@ElimGarak I don't agree
 
2:10 AM
@nick You got my vote.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak I actually agree with you in that respect. I don't think animals have rights.
 
Nick2016
 
@ElimGarak must be japanese
 
@Lalaland you'd be ok with the asshats that put fireworks in a cat's anus?
I don't support animal cruelty
 
I find that distasteful, but I am completely okay with it.
 
user406009
2:11 AM
@orlp Yes.
 
@nick will you make them pay for it tho
 
user406009
I mean, I'm ok with people eating the cat.
 
well, I heavily disagree
 
user406009
You really can't do anything worse than that.
 
And a dog.
 
2:11 AM
I'm ok with eating the cat
 
@jaggedSpire OH YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT
 
@Lalaland would you rather be killed instantly and eaten
 
nickpls
 
or maimed and tortured?
(and then die from your injuries)
 
@Nick :(
 
user406009
2:12 AM
I think both actions are rather similar in terms of damage to me.
 
@LucDanton again, thanks!
 
I am sure animals gather around at night and tell stories to their kids if they are nice, they'll be put down and eaten quickly.
 
Ell
minecraft fp it seems
 
It's the equivalent of a villain offering you a quick death in exchange for information.
 
user406009
I would of course prefer the instant death, but I think both are on the same level of "evil"
 
Ell
2:13 AM
@Lalaland I don't think so
 
There are two many nicks for one room. One of you change name. TIA
 
"Evil" as in the way of the universe.
 
Ell
I think suffering is most of the evil that comes from death
 
there is no such thing as 'evil' except your own definition
 
I love steak. I fucking love steak.
 
2:13 AM
@ElimGarak that's evil
@Nick who-ho-ho
 
@Lalaland It's the problem: damages are judged by the need and the intent.
 
@ElimGarak why do you fuck your steak?
 
Ell
@orlp depends who you ask, :P
 
@Borgleader When I am mod you will no longer tell me what to do
you bully
 
@orlp I took it to dinner, it's expected of the steak.
 
user406009
2:14 AM
@orlp Yep. Ethics usually comes down to personal decisions.
 
@ElimGarak the good ol' wine & sodomize
 
user406009
I am not a vegetarian, but I can respect people who are.
 
My personal decision is that dead animals taste great.
 
Oh shit.
 
oh boy
 
2:15 AM
When Nick's a mod, I can totally manipulate him.
 
there's probably a lot
 
And apparently, everything in the universe tastes like chicken.
 
NICK PICS
 
Mah Nickers
 
@Nooble did you forget a massive project that's due tomorrow?
 
2:15 AM
orlp pls
 
Fuck yeah, Nick for president.
 
no, it has to be named 'Mah Nickers'
 
@Nooble do you mean nick or Nick?
 
@jaggedSpire I didn't forget.
 
My favorite people are those who enjoy a greasy bbq and then go animal SJW on everyone.
 
2:15 AM
@jaggedSpire nick
Real nicka shit.
 
nooble pls
 
@ElimGarak greasy big beautiful queer?
 
user406009
@ElimGarak There is a distinction between animals that are treated well and animals that are not.
 
user406009
I personally don't care about that distinction.
 
Ell
2:16 AM
this is funny
 
stop I can only get so erect
 
Beautiful.
 
Mah Nicker
 
hey bro dont be posting that everywhere
dont be sharing my nudes either
 
user406009
Whoever took that picture needs a better camera.
 
2:16 AM
You look like you fapped all night long.
 
@Lalaland You just dissed nick.
 
who says I didn't
 
My nicka!
 
he took that near a fancy blue wall.
 
hey, guys, it's jesus
 
2:17 AM
JUST NICK IT
YESTERDAY YOU SAID TOMORROW, SO JUST NICK IT
 
Now @nick and @Nick have a nice nick niche in nicks or Nicks. They can swap their nicks of nick and Nick for other nicks like Nick and nick but nick and Nick won't nick Nick and nick's nicks.
 
Girls know what's coming when they see that face.
 
NOPE
 
@nick, as moderator, you can tell is who's flagging.
Well you can't.
 
@nick but it's such a brilliant opportunity!
 
2:18 AM
But you will.
 
Can we stop with the random pictures =/
 
Yay, I got the function pointer conversions right. Now everything works again and is standard-compliant :D
 
@Morwenn yay!
 
@Morwenn \o/
 
Ell
2:20 AM
updating mesa
 
This'll be great.
 
@Morwenn oooh what's that and can I eat it
 
Ell
I pray that my graphics are alive still :V
 
Now I'll go to sleep. I'll keep the cosmetic changes for tomorrow.
 
nick will be best mod.
 
2:20 AM
@Morwenn Was this bread baked by demons of the Burning Legion?
 
@jaggedSpire Pandan financier.
@Borgleader I didn't know I was a Demon of the Burning Legion.
 
Good night @Morwenn.
 
So, I implemented Forward+ for shits and giggles. It's useless.
 
Thanks. Have fun while I'm not watching :D
 
@Morwenn thanks
 
2:21 AM
@Borgleader If I was mod, Things Would Be Different
 
@Morwenn If by have fun you mean sleep, yes I will.
 
@Borgleader Yes
 
@nick were
 
16 messages moved to bin
 
Good night @Morwenn.
 
2:21 AM
@Morwenn thats a repost but have a good night anyways
 
Cleanup on aisle threee
 
@sehe thanks
 
@sehe thanks
 
@sehe thanks
 
Night!
 
2:22 AM
@sehe Night!
 
@sehe Night!
 
nick promises change!
USA! USA! USA!
 
nick promises to send me nudes
 
@sehe Thanks
@sehe Night.
 
don't bin me :(
 
2:23 AM
@Nick Sorry we still love you.
Only if you have a decent keyboard though.
 
1 Nick moved to bin
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You're just jealous of my good looks
 
That isn't topre.
 
American Express keeps targeting me with ads for their Platinum card. As you can see, I am gaining recognition as a an established gentleman of leisure
 
@nick surely
 
2:24 AM
Visa all the way
 
ew
 
AMEX is bad.
 
amex does 3x credit limit increases every 3 months if you as for it
and you have good credit
 
Look man, just take credit card advice from a 4 year old ok.
 
Ell
2:26 AM
I've asked this before, and I'll ask it again
are "materials" necessarily tied to the renderer?
 
@Ell What do you mean?
 
@Nooble I thought you were 8
 
Ell
@Nooble well, to describe how an object should be rendered you have to give it a diffuse map, normal map etc.
 
@jaggedSpire 4 in koala years.
 
2:27 AM
@Ell Materials can associate a lot more information than just what is used by the renderer, they may also encode the sound response etc. So, no.
 
I have to go poop now, then go to bed
 
Ell
@ElimGarak Fair enough - let's say we are talking purely about visuals
 
but not poop in bed
 
Ell
and not other information
 
@Ell Then of course it's tied to the renderer.
 
Ell
2:28 AM
@Nooble ugh I want this not to be true
but I suppose there is no way
 
I mean, it's the renderer's job to render the visuals.
 
As long as you have a way of feeding crucial material data to the renderer, it doesn't have to be tied to it directly.
 
What do you mean by tie anyway?
 
Ell
meh I think I concede
it just doesn't sit well in my mind :V
> emerge: (74 of 81)
oooh
nearly done
 
@Ell lol why
 
Ell
2:29 AM
I will need to update my kernel once my portage tree is fine
@CatPlusPlus I don't know man
 
Good reason
 
user406009
@Ell Ah, gentoo
 
Ell
57 secs ago, by Ell
it just doesn't sit well in my mind :V
@Lalaland funtoo
I don't need a reason
 
materials describe, well, a material
It's any kind of metadata about something really
 
You can make your own design you know
 
2:30 AM
Yeah, I love reading about porn materials.
 
Don't have to blindly cargo cult
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Gotta simulate those fluids with the utmost of accuracy.
 
user406009
Physical body accuracy isn't so important.
 
@GregorMcGregor follow google's guidelines and you'll be good
 
fuck material design and google in general
 
2:32 AM
Yes
 
user406009
Why "fuck google"? They provide valuable services.
 
All I would propose to Ell is to stop using the word "have to", because it is automatically invalid. :D The only thing you have to do is die... Eventually, this is not a threat.
 
mad cuz google's winning
 
I could shit on a carpet and that would still be better looking than material design
 
ok lets see it
 
2:33 AM
Shit on a carpet is a great name for a song.
 
Ell
@ElimGarak yeah that's fair
@GregorMcGregor I actually like material design :P
What do you dislike?
 
essentially everything?
 
Ell
hmm
 
ah yes
 
Ell
what do you prefer to material design?
 
2:34 AM
web2.0
 
^
 
@Ell The excessive animation that slows web shit to a crawl
 
Does anyone have any experience with llvm?
 
just msvc sorry
 
Thanks nick!
 
2:35 AM
np m8
 
@Nick What's that
 
@Lalaland Yes, some of their products are nice or used to be.
 
@Nick Kill me.
 
But overall most of what they do is a giant pile of garbage and so is their mentality
Can't wait until they collapse
 
2:39 AM
@Lalaland Shitty policies and overcentralisation
 
And imperialist mentality
pls die
 
Ell
google search engine is good
and gmail is good
I like android also
 
lol android
 
Ell
and google calendars also
 
It's not that I'm a fan of android, I just think iOS is shit
 
Ell
2:40 AM
And of course youtube
hmm. and maps, translate
then there is docs
Meh it seems I quite like a lot of their shit
 
user406009
Let's see, what awesome products does google have?
 
user406009
GMail, Google Search, Google Flights, Google Drive
 
user406009
Android
 
user406009
YouTube
 
And there you go, overcentralisation
 
2:42 AM

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Ell
yeah it makes me uneasy
 
GMail in particular is hairy because they admitted to not giving shit about your privacy a long time ago
 
silly europeans and their privacy laws
yuropeens
 
Ell
yeah email worries me most
still waiting for darkmail :V
 
I'll move to my own domain eventually
cicada.blackfriday
 
Ell
2:45 AM
Running your own email server?
That seems hard
 
Not hard, just tedious as fuck.
 
Oh
He is
 
the only hard part about running your own mail server is getting postfix to work
 
Ell
but but security n that
 
2:46 AM
Email is not an easy service due to volume of shit that'll pour onto you, and deliverability issues
 
@Ell The last time I set one up, it seems like it took about an hour or so (and that was a long time ago--I'd expect it's easier now). Of course, it undoubtedly depends on what email server you decide to use too.
 
Ell
patching the numerous bugs that are introduced daily
plus this
 
Setting up Postfix properly is few hours tops, but keeping the service running is a lot more effort
Esp when some large destination like Google decides to blacklist your IP for whatever reason
Have fun filling forms trying to get that running again
Also you need redundancy if you want reliability which is not optional if you use email for important things
Adds up
@Ell That... doesn't happen
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus it ain't a problem then
 
That does not follow
Security updates are mostly a matter of running an up-to-date system
 
2:58 AM
@Elim What do you think the first revision of Vulkan will introduce
 
user406009
@GregorMcGregor He's under a NDA.
 
user406009
So he can't speak.
 
user406009
It's predicted that Vulkan is going to be similar to the Mantle spec (amd.com/Documents/…)
 
There are actually 3 NDAs (IHVs included).
 
2:59 AM
I'm not asking for the contents of the specs of Vulkan which I am fully aware of, I am asking for his opinion on the future of it
 
@GregorMcGregor Maybe some public availability?
 
@ElimGarak blah blah
spill the beans
 
Howdy
Anyone wanna hear a joke?
 
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@SirCumference-Pies You interfere with people cumming?
 
2:59 AM
Oh boy...
 

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