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user4639281
12:09 AM
It may not be the best duplicate (php vs asp) if you can find a better one, please do
 
1:09 AM
"what do i name my stuff" is purely opinionated, yeah?
 
too broad, I think
or pob I guess
 
i dunno what to do with this, its all kinds of unclear/vague: stackoverflow.com/questions/31575561/…
 
 
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4:17 AM
@Unihedron Bah I knew I should have "Skip"ped that one.
 
 
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6:04 AM
@misterManSam voted
 
 
1 hour later…
7:29 AM
@Unihedron The Europe link has the 3.2 version. Everything seems to be in order.
@durron597 Any update on that moderator flag?
 
So Europe is in front?
 
Seems like it.
Yay, we won the race :)
 
8:36 AM
Too broad / debug help, but check the revision history...
 
 
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Sam
10:53 AM
In other news, SD has invaded the SOCVR room...
 
 
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12:05 PM
@ArtjomB. Declined
 
hm
 
12:25 PM
morning!
 
Sam
Morning!
 
Sam
lol
 
it still works
 
Last question in that's still open.
 
12:35 PM
sweet
 
 
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Sam
2:01 PM
lol
That's going to gfse.
 
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because we are not customer support for your favorite company. — gunr2171 6 secs ago
 
3:03 PM
ignored in the Tavern
 
3:30 PM
@JonSkeet Any thoughts? — Dagrooms 11 mins ago
Jon is so happy that doesn't work...
 
3:53 PM
editing... done
 
4:40 PM
I just reorganized the GitHub group. There is now a single team instead of a bunch of smaller ones. Apologies if you are flooded with emails.
 
It generates only 1 email.
 
ok, I didn't know if it would make one email per event
voted both
 
cc @JonClements ^
 
wassup?
 
4:54 PM
stackoverflow.com/q/206441 is the last beautification post
which is locked
 
@gunr2171 That one should be wikilocked not historical lock anyway
 
@Deduplicator what do you want to do with it? deleted?
 
I've removed the tag
 
thank you
 
Untaggging is enough. I'm not sure it deserves preservation, but doesn't matter.
 
4:57 PM
not for me to decide - I've put a wiki lock on it anyway
 
@JonClements It has 6 delete votes now
Are those old delete votes?
 
7 now
 
@JonClements Do you have the ability to see when delete votes were put on a question?
 
okay - I didn't lock it correctly
it's now definitely wiki locked
moderators can see a lot more information on a posts timeline than others - why do you ask?
 
@JonClements Im just curious if those delete votes were put on in the last half hour or if they were old
 
5:06 PM
like if they were because of the burning or not
 
I can see that info. but I'm not allowed to disclose it - sorry
if I do some "wave hand in air for general gesture" - some were newer than others... 'nuff said
 
@Deduplicator voted 2 and 3
 
@JonClements ok np
(I would never ask for identity of voters. I just was curious if delete votes are preserved after a question is unlocked)
 
5:36 PM
user is trying again? what's going to change this time...
wow, that was alive for all of 26 seconds
 
@durron597 Moderators are allowed to see the timeline of a post... that includes all flags, voting and review queues etc...
 
oh wow, that language...
 
@SmokeDetector 47 seconds
 
@JonClements Is he qbanned yet? geez
 
5:46 PM
multiple accounts
this is the second one I think
 
That specific account is Q banned, so yes
also now deleted
 
without an IP ban yet I expect a new one to pop-up
 
don't worry - your ever friendly and present moderator team are on the lookout :)
 
and Smokey
 
and that of course :)
 
5:51 PM
but yes, we do thank you for your help
 
ProgramFox blacklisted the new account
I was hoping this would still work ...
 
@rene The most recent account has been blacklisted on Smokey by Undo.
 
OK
 
We're safe until he creates a new account...
 
@gunr2171 no worries - I enjoy "hanging out" with people that have an intent to make the site cleaner :p
 
5:53 PM
:D
 
new one gone under 1 minute
 
Sadly I can't participate in closing sessions, but if you get stuck with locks and stuff - I'm about :)
 
@JonClements Just make yourself a sockpuppet and set its rep to 3k
 
@Deduplicator Ugh don't remind me
 
6:01 PM
Nightmares? ;-)
 
false was not the response you were looking for, right?
 
@Deduplicator I found those when I was writing up the burn post and I was just too demoralized to add them in
 
@durron597 Of course... an elected moderator with a sock puppet... what could go wrong there :p
 
user4639281
Make a sock-puppet person instead. Then it wouldn't really be a sock-puppet account.
 
then I'd find it, have to delete it and myself... errr.... yeah... apart from that - a genius idea no doubt
 
6:11 PM
You are welcome. The SOVCR room, for all your genius ideas...
 
:)
Getting an account to 3k though would be a month's work... don't have the time
heck - don't even answer that much on this account anymore
 
update users set reputation =3000 where id=? don't forget the where....
 
@rene Yeah that's what I meant
 
We need Oded for that and he will laugh at us...
 
haha... if only we had direct access to the DB :)
 
6:21 PM
with access comes responsibility...
is this comment flaggable? It is not a lmgtfy but still...
 
we can do enough with the tools available though
useless Q - it's deleted now
 
nvm flagged
oh
 
@durron597 I want to fix some of the moderator tooling first, because it's even more long overdue. That's an active initiative as of next week. The 10k tools were designed to facilitate more oversight, which at our current scale, is a function that they fundamentally don't provide very well. You need to be able to drill into those lists more conveniently at a much deeper breadth, and (optionally) filter out the stuff you can't act on, even if just seeing what's ultimately happened to it is interesting. — Tim Post ♦ Jun 27 at 4:08
 
@rene but yeah - not constructive was correct
 
Ok
 
6:26 PM
@JonClements When you were elected was there a training course?
 
Nope... you get a lot of info that you read up on, and if doubt you can talk with other more experienced mods etc...
 
Most of the time I get a declined flag it's because I'm wrong about the moderator mandate, not because what I'm saying is stupid or a waste of time. For example if you look at the flag history on this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/31313390/…
I feel like, if I knew the mod mandate better I would never have flagged in the first place
 
And err... the rejection reason you were given didn't explain it?
 
@JonClements It explained it AFTERWARDS
That's kind of an unusual situation that wouldn't come up in most of the main help center sections
 
I went through , retagging and generally cleaning up everything which was on-topic (or where I wasn't sure it wasn't), and casting close/down/delete-votes on everything else. Anyone have some votes left to help?
 
6:34 PM
It doesn't really warrant mod intervention though tbh
VTC it after the bounty's expired if you want
 
@Deduplicator I just went through the review queue but if you just put the CVs down I bet many of them aren't in yet
 
yep, just now. And if you have votes but no reviews, there are only 24 questions left...
 
@Deduplicator @rene I'm putting down my daily deletes right now, one minute:
 
ok
@durron597 reviews are created in the 15 minute script, if I'm correct.
I should see those at 21:00 my time
done
 
all gone, have 8 left
 
6:42 PM
@Deduplicator I'm getting them from here: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/319098/… with views set to 20000 and answermax set to 3
@Deduplicator Start from "Get source code of Silverlight class in runtime"
 
I'll be gone for a while, will do my reviews later (closer to end of SO day)
 
OK
 
@durron597 Done.
 
7:06 PM
@SmokeDetector "Help me, I'm poor"
 
@Deduplicator thanks
@SmokeDetector Down to -21
 
Ahh.. haven't seen Aswhini around in a while
 
@JonClements Awww you ruined our downvoting fun
 
I'm sure you'll find a way to live somehow :p
 
@JonClements I'll make it up to myself by watching family guy videos
 
7:13 PM
In other news, Windows Server 2003 sucks :-/
 
@closey starting
 
good choice :)
 
@rene Don't get lost in the queue!
 
"The only day that Microsoft do something that doesn't 'suck' will be the day they do vacuum cleaners"? :p
 
@rene are you doing ?
 
7:14 PM
@TylerH that isn't supported anymore, unless that box is running for a governmental institute in the Netherlands
@durron597 yes?
Is that OK?
 
@rene good just checking.
I'm doing them too
 
passed algorithm audit
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "off-topic, unclear what you're asking, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [code-formatter]"
I'm on beautifier now...
 
hooray my score is in the 900s
home stretch
 
:( My c# score is nowhere. mostly because I forget to focus on that tag...
 
@rene gosh how will you have any mjollnir available after review and triage and anyway?
 
7:29 PM
I'll use my sock and continue to cause havoc contribute positively to the site...
 
user4639281
That first guy, he really went all-out
 
Well, MSXML2, he has a point...
 
user4639281
Then it should be "!@#$ my life, !@#$ my life very much" instead
 
I don't think that OP is open for a constructive discussion about grammar
 
I wonder who wasted a delete-vote on the second abusive answer there...
 
7:36 PM
Find 2 other 20K-ers to find out?
 
@rene Why? Just waiting for the last flags did the trick
 
@Deduplicator but if it get deleted the voters are revealed...
then you can blame the one that spend a delete vote...
 
@rene ... and community did it.
 
Yeah, due to the flags
@Deduplicator Left a comment for bummi...
@Deduplicator done
 
thanks
 
7:42 PM
@Closey next 5 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@rene The next 5 tags are: 106, 98, 95, 90, 89
 
passed scala audit
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 4 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@rene Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@Closey starting
 
@TylerH Don't get lost in the queue!
 
7:53 PM
@Closey last session stats
 
@rene Your last completed review session ended 10 seconds ago and lasted 40 minutes and 32 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 1 minute.
 
Passed C# audit
 
1 minute! beat that!
 
That's early
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[source-code]"
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[code-formatter]"
 
I'm out..
 
8:03 PM
I'm in
 
I love watching these SmokeDetector answers explode with downvotes.
 
user4639281
6 downvotes within 38 seconds of the user posting.
 
Most of the downvotes probably come from automatic downvote from spam/offensive flags
 
^
 
8:28 PM
Man I don't know how I'll be able to review LQP once I get 20k rep
I recommend deletion on almost every one
 
don't worry, you're still years away *zing*
 
The trick is to use up all your delete votes before going to that queue so you don't waste them.
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/31549708/… "I'm not a C# developer but somehow I need to write C# code"
Well if you're going on a trip to Alaska I have some ice I'd like to sell you
 
@ArtjomB. ah makes sense. that doesn't work for the CV queue, I just assumed.
 
Nothing changes in the CV queue once you get 20k.
 
user4639281
 
@TinyGiant Meta effect.
Plus also the 10k delete vote list but in this case I think it was meta effect.
 
user4639281
Yeah, but is there a DVQ?
 
user4639281
Of some sort or kind
 
@TinyGiant It's not a queue, but you can see a list of about 45 of the questions that have any delete votes on them
 
user4639281
Cool thanks
 
8:40 PM
sort by "most delete votes"
which is why I always try to get a second delete vote down. Usually two delete votes on a bad question will get three. But if it only has one it can often get buried.
@durron597 I want to fix some of the moderator tooling first, because it's even more long overdue. That's an active initiative as of next week. The 10k tools were designed to facilitate more oversight, which at our current scale, is a function that they fundamentally don't provide very well. You need to be able to drill into those lists more conveniently at a much deeper breadth, and (optionally) filter out the stuff you can't act on, even if just seeing what's ultimately happened to it is interesting. — Tim Post ♦ Jun 27 at 4:08
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[.net]"
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 3 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@TylerH Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@TylerH Your last completed review session ended 7 seconds ago and lasted 50 minutes and 16 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 1 minute and 15 seconds.
 
oh yeah, I beat @rene
 
8:44 PM
At first I was horrified from the 10k tools after coming from well-designed review queues, but now that I found some pearl lists, I don't want to miss it. There is obviously always room for improvement.
 
@ArtjomB. "pearl lists"?
 
Yes, where the most bad things happen such as the Delete tab or the New Answers To Old Questions list.
 
@ArtjomB. I just wish we could search or filter those lists somehow
 
@durron597 a pearl, like a diamond in the rough
 
I still don't know how I can effectively use the suggested edit list.
Just don't know of any good workflow.
 
@durron597 Voted as POB
 
 
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9:58 PM
@durron597 Spotted you my last, refunded, one.
 
@Deduplicator Were you able to CV the dupe?
The longer that question stays open makes my rage burn with the fire of a thousand suns
 
did that, some time ago already.
 
@Deduplicator I actually called out one of the higher rep guys commenting on it and they never CVed it.
 
Some never will.
 
@Deduplicator Plenty of those
Trying to use up my programmers.se close votes now
then i'll 10k snipe, then feed the roomba, then go home
 
10:04 PM
@durron597 have fun, and good night
 
@Deduplicator gn
 

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