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12:00 PM
For example, Haskell = academic, Python = pragmatic
 
@sbi things always swipe through the cracks
 
sbi
In short, this guy put the comparison operators (which I recommended making free functions) into his class and then complained that the code as in my answer does not compile, because he had to put friend in there. I told him to read the FAQ from the beginning (where I discuss why to make operators members or not), but he says he knows it all, the friend solved the problem, and my code doesn't compile...
 
@fredoverflow Haskell = sexy, Python = pornographic
 
@fredoverflow this is overly simplistic IMHO
Is Lua academic or pragmatic?
 
sbi
@sehe Well, I didn't think it affected my point, so I didn't try to correct it. Well, this, plus I only saw it too late.
 
12:01 PM
I actually started learning programming with SICP and therefore Scheme.
 
@sbi I like putting the free functions as friends :( Guilty pleasure.
 
@sehe lol
 
I'm old fashioned. Of course, putting them outside the class body makes the separation of concerns a lot clearer
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow Python is executable pseudocode. Haskell is executable encrypted formulae.
 
Why would comparison operators need to access class internals to begin with?
 
sbi
12:03 PM
@sehe I didn't say you must never do this. I only said that the problem isn't the missing friend, and that he hasn't understood the problem. But, yeah, I always try to not to make them friends. It seems cleaner if I can get away with using the public interface only.
 
Yesh. It seems cleaner if you can just leave the comment thread be :(
 
sbi
@fredoverflow Because the data they want to compare isn't publicly available. Of course, this seems unlikely. But it's not unheard of.
 
That's what I do on high traffic old answers
Inevitably someone will come along and (inadvertantly) troll the comments into a mess that detracts from the answer.
 
@sehe those operators are a lot like Haskell's typeclasses really
 
wait... what are those two little feckers in Italy here (Schengen area thing) One would be Vatican City, what's the other?
 
12:04 PM
@sbi So if I'm a normal client and I have two objects a and b, just by probing the normal methods, I could not tell if they are equal? Sounds like broken design to me...
 
a predefined iface you can implement from the outside
 
@BartekBanachewicz There we go again. "Programming in language X is a lot like programming in language Y". <stupefied/>
 
But in this case, it really bears a huge similarity
 
@thecoshman San Marino Republic. Kinda of a state inside a state. Yes, I know: wtf?
 
perhaps accidental
I mean, C++ doesn't have Comparable interface.
 
sbi
12:06 PM
@sehe That's an FAQ that I regularly get upvotes on, because people are reading it. Some do have questions, of course, and I try to answer them. First, because answering question what the site and an FAQ is about, but also because the FAQ has improved due to questions asked.
 
A microstate or ministate is a sovereign state having a very small population or very small land area, and usually both. As the meaning of neither "state" nor "very small" is clear, the recent attempts to define microstates focus on identifying political entities with unique qualitative features linked to their geographic or demographic limitations. According to a qualitative definition, microstates are: "modern protected states, i.e. sovereign states that have been able to unilaterally depute certain attributes of sovereignty to larger powers in exchange for benign protection of their political...
 
sbi
@fredoverflow As I said, it's unlikely. But if push comes to shove, rather than putting in getters, I'd make the operators private.
 
@sbi Depends on what the commenter says, clearly :/
 
we should invade it, one day or another.. it's on the TODO list with P3 (nice to have)
 
@sehe I know it's clear a microstate, but I didn't know which ones
 
12:07 PM
^ the link, brah, do you even links?
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz minicraft terrain generator doesn't seem to have randomness involved.
 
i.e. that task is being starved to death
 
@rightfold or you didn't find the way to seed it
 
^
I don't think I bothered with seeding it at that time
 
@sehe I wanted the answer, not a way to find the answer :P
 
12:08 PM
Any PRNG doesn't seem to have any randomness. They're usually completely predicatble
@thecoshman lazy bastard
 
sbi
@sehe Yeah. He seemed genuine at first, though. So I was wondering whether I should have been less the didactic teacher ("Read it again, and carefully!"), and more the guy giving a plain answer ("They should have been free functions."). That's why I dropped it here.
 
user1804599
You include <random> but it's not used anywhere.
 
@sbi I can see how that happens. It's annoying when people do this.
 
> San Marino claims to be the oldest surviving sovereign state and constitutional republic in the world,[10] as the continuation of the monastic community founded on 3 September 301, by stonecutter Marinus of Arba.
oh Simpsons, you so historical
 
sbi
@rightfold That's just a <random> include.
3
SCNR.
 
12:09 PM
@sehe :D
 
FYI I also wanted an answer. Then I found the clue instead
 
sbi
@sehe If you look through these comments, you'll find some that I have abandoned for the same reason as this one.
Some people simply do not want to learn, they only want to prove they're right. No need to waste my time on those.
 
The permutation table from Perlin's improved implementation is not special magic. That's a nice place to seed, in my opinion: just produce your own permutation table by shuffling the numbers from 1 to 256. This is what @Robinson was talking about in the OP comments. — James Clark Feb 12 '13 at 20:00
 
@BartekBanachewicz meh, Simplex > Improved Perlin > Original Perlin
 
irrelevant here.
hmm so I need to buy an extension pipe for my dishwasher
 
12:13 PM
hardly the point
 
what else was I supposed to do today
clean up my room.
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's a Monday, work?
 
meh work
it became a chore lately
 
@BartekBanachewicz FAP
precisely the sixth on the list
(1-indexed)
 
> FORTRAN Assembly Program
 
12:14 PM
YES
 
@TonyTheLion Hey tony
 
well I dunno I might form a startup too
 
@BartekBanachewicz Will you be hiring? ;)
 
@fredoverflow assuming you will work for equity (i.e. free)
 
12:17 PM
to maximize effectiveness, they duplicated the skills list twice
that means you have to be twice as proficient with those languages and technologies
 
@MarcoA. hihi
 
sbi
@Xeo Having scanned applications and conducted interviews for months, I can tell you that a missing degree makes it hard to assess an application. If someone has a degree from a university, I know the person was able to learn new stuff, drag on through dreary courses, satisfy their professors – at whatever level that degree required. If they cannot show this, they'd better provide a decade worth of good references or some other means for me to assess their abilities. /cc @Tony
(Note: I am not trying to be mean here. But if you have 30 candidates for a single position, you cannot invite them all, assign coding tasks to them, etc., you will have to screen out some beforehand. What criterion would you recommend to assess them by?)
@R.MartinhoFernandes This is called "growing up". Get used to it.
 
@sbi SO account? ;)
 
sbi
@buttifulbuttefly What is this stackratting you're below me at and what does it count for?
 
Xeo
@sbi I dunno, by my experience I put in my CV?
 
sbi
12:21 PM
@fredoverflow "...or some other means for me to assess their abilities..."
 
Xeo
Interviews are annoying anyways
 
@sbi Open Source code?
 
sbi
@Xeo Everybody puts experience into their CVs.
 
Uh, actually, scrap that, everything besides degree you put on CV/resume/application
 
interest in the job?
 
sbi
12:22 PM
53 secs ago, by sbi
@fredoverflow "...or some other means for me to assess their abilities..."
 
I never not got a reply from people whom I asked technical stuff about what was going on (i.e. details about the tech and other stuff)
 
well then
why point out education in particular then?
> I know the person was able to learn new stuff, drag on through dreary courses, satisfy their professors
"learn new stuff" is dubious at best here
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz Because this is what every application includes. I have yet to get one with a SO account or references to OSS.
 
the latter two, okay, but do you really want to hire brainless zombies?
@sbi wow, really?
 
@Jefffrey Hi. How you been?
 
12:24 PM
I'd think some people use SO and write OS code
I mean people use github right
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz Since when are people who are able to learn new stuff "brainless zombies"?
 
@BartekBanachewicz not that often I'd guess
I had a colleague who noticed that I too was using github
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz Really. So far, nobody has done this.
 
and he was like "HOLY SHIT YOU USE GITHUB"
 
@sbi I specifically referred to "dragging on through courses" and "satisfying professors"
 
12:25 PM
@sbi Maybe people don't want to brag.
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz Well, it might be news to you, but being employed as a developer is a lot about dragging on through dreary stuff and satisfying your superiors.
 
you're kinda supposed to brag
 
@TonyTheLion Good good, how have you been?
 
@sbi might explain why I got fired in the first place
 
sbi
12:26 PM
@fredoverflow In a job application? Let go of my leg!
 
@Jefffrey I'm alright, but I have been better.
 
@sbi Or maybe they don't want the potential employer to think the employee would waste valuable time on SO during work hours.
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, it might. Or not. I dunno, since I didn't even know you got fired, let alone how and why.
 
@sbi oh well, I assumed you still sift through at least starboard. Well, I suppose opinions as to "why" differ, but I got handed my 2-months notice after a project I wasn't doing so well in became a company-wide priority.
 
@sbi Maybe Bartek wanted to convert all legacy code to Haskell?
 
sbi
12:28 PM
@fredoverflow Yeah, maybe. Whatever, so far, I have been involved in hiring processes in several companies over the last 15 years, but I have yet to read one application that points at SO or OSS.
 
maybe your job posting isn't hip enough~
 
I get a lot of code review requests on OSS stuff
 
@sbi some universities give degrees in a pay-for-what-you-want fashion
 
@sbi Have you seen applicants that were completely unable to program, like one reads about in those FizzButt articles?
 
in an international context is even harder to screen out the 'scam' degrees
 
12:29 PM
I plan to do less overnight bushwalks, it's too time consuming & distracts me from what I should be doing ...
 
Have someone else walk your bush.
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz "...a project I wasn't doing so well in..." What more do you need? (Note that I would rarely ever recommend firing someone who is not doing well in one project without first having a lot of talks about the reasons.)
 
@sbi Yea I know you'd never hire me :P
 
sbi
@MarcoA. Indeed. If you scan applications, you try to keep an eye out on this. Fortunately, there universities are government-owned in Germany, so it's easy to assess an the validity of a diploma from a German university. It's harder for foreigners, though.
@fredoverflow If so, none of them made it far enough to make me aware of it.
 
that article was scary
 
12:33 PM
@sbi What more do I need? Well, more feedback beforehand from a remote person who become my direct superior for one. And perhaps understanding that because some other people didn't want to get through boring stuff like writing docs, now I am going slower digging through what they made. I don't think I'm a perfect employee, but then again everyone has flaws.
Maybe my particular flaws just didn't fit in so much here and what I consider my strength didn't matter.
Happens.
 
Base nor Derived are actually used. display prints a constant message. Read a book: stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/…sehe 7 secs ago
 
@sbi I am genuinely surprised with that though
 
Jun 1 at 22:41, by sehe
Doesn't make it all irrelevant. Growing pains happen
:D
 
ohnoes
SO vote now scrolls with answer
JABBASCRIPT
 
@sbi that faith in the government makes me cry (I can't have that)
:' (
I could use that criterion in the exact opposite way
 
12:35 PM
@sbi I got my current job via SO careers. It appears, indeed, it's for the hip
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion First, I do not hire, I recommend (or not) to interview, do the interview, and then recommend to hire (or not). Second, I'd certainly recommend you if I know you are a good C++ programmer. The last time the two of us spoke about this, you said yourself you have some stuff to learn yet to become really good, but this was a while ago and if you think have approved, contact me, so we can talk about it.
@BartekBanachewicz Well, what you list I had covered in my answer.
 
Are you guys still on C++03?
 
Fuck everything.
7
 
oh, finally something to star for no reason at all
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12:36 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes what now
 
The one time I'm not carrying a first aid kit, I get hurt.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What did you do?
 
@sbi I'm not really looking for a job, but good to know
 
sbi
@MarcoA. I do not have faith in the government. I just know that, when universities are paid by the government, it's unlikely they try to earn money by selling degrees.
 
12:37 PM
For a woman?
 
from where
 
@sbi we have a moronic criterion that gives funds to universities in proportion to how many students actually degree
I'll leave you imagine the 'moronicity' potential of this approach
 
My bicycle.
 
Damn. How are you?
 
bicycle huh ...
 
12:38 PM
@fredoverflow might still be relevant
 
I'm fine. Just need to disinfect and bandage a few wounds.
First two pharmacies I got to were closed.
 
...
 
On a monday??
 
And the bike
 
Everything is working against me.
 
12:39 PM
doesn't sound too good
 
At least Robot is fit enough to write in the Lounge.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're a robot, get to the next mechanics shop.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wait a second. "A few wounds", that doesn't sound low-impact
 
apotheke
 
sbi
@sehe I have gotten job offers through social networks (I'm lumping SO careers in with them here), but I have yet to get a real job through them. (I got a few interviews.) Half the jobs I had in the last 20 years I got because I knew somebody who knew somebody, the other half by just applying to an unknown company.
 
12:39 PM
@fredoverflow nobody works the first Monday of the week
 
It's just flesh wounds.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes So you're without limbs now?
 
sbi
@MarcoA. Yeah, that's a stupid idea. Where are you from?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...how
I mean you're in the city
people don't fall off bicycles in the city just like that
 
I was going through a park.
 
sbi
12:40 PM
@TonyTheLion Yeah. You'd have to relocate, though.
 
Ahem. Usually people say "it's just skin damage" (modulo my english), "flesh wounds" are a bit higher on the ladder
 
Dirt path.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Trespassing
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes never mind
 
@sbi Yea, I realize and I'm currently quite happy where I am.
 
12:40 PM
I actually got a tire slip today
 
@TonyTheLion How many Mondays are there per week?
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're drunk again?
 
braked too hard with my rear in front of the redlight
 
No. I'm totally sober.
 
sbi
12:41 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You keep saying this.
 
rear brakes are totally dangerous things
 
Next thing: temporary amnesia.
I still remember visiting a friend in the hospital. I wish he could say the same.
 
sbi
@MarcoA. Ah. Didn't have any applicants with Italian diplomas yet. But it's good to know that! :)
 
I lost some 3 square centimetres of skin in my right hand.
My left wrist hurts.
 
12:42 PM
@sbi I have two, but I'm saving money for a third one in medicine so I can cure R. Martinho
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Granted
 
Xeo
@sehe Grated.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes No thanks. My fantasies do not include getting fucked by y robot.
 
That too
 
My left ankle is also missing about a square centimetre of skin.
 
12:42 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes yikes
 
ITT the Ape is being juvenile again
 
@BartekBanachewicz no, you were going too fast :P
 
My upper lip is swollen.
 
Xeo
So, typical Schuerfwunden.
Owch
 
@thecoshman I wasn't!
 
12:43 PM
My chin is scratched.
 
I just braked inappropiately
 
sorry to hear that robor
 
@BartekBanachewicz you can't skid if you are not going too fast
 
And my left nipple has a few scratches too
2
 
@thecoshman bullshit
 
12:43 PM
poor nipple
3
 
@sehe you what? it's constant.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nipple salad?
 
Yeah, let in the jokes.
 
but last time I was involved in a bicycle accident, I lost 1.5 teeth
 
You played too much DF Robot
 
12:43 PM
@thecoshman Not really. But yeah
 
@Xeo Gna, lost at Skat with 60 "eyes" :-(
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes That does sound bad. Why did you fall?
 
user1804599
Meh.
 
3 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Dirt path.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes was anyone there to help you get sorted?
 
12:44 PM
the first thing robot did after fell was to post it on SO
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sbi
@BartekBanachewicz That doesn't explain anything.
 
or maybe it does
 
@sehe std::sort
 
Fuck this shit.
 
Ok
 
12:44 PM
Now it's raining on me.
 
Xeo
...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Guard your brand new phone. Unconference awaits.
 
@BartekBanachewicz if you were not going too fast, you would have been able to brake gentle enough when you saw the the red light. This ofc requires you to have not been going too fast in the first place. You would have been at the correct speed, seen the lights, seen them go yellow, so started to slow down and come to a nice gentle stop.
 
Xeo
It's just cleansing your wounds!
 
Someone poured water out their balcony or something.
 
12:45 PM
std::luck returned None for Robor today
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lolwat
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Aus dem Regen unter Umgehung der Traufe direkt in die Scheiße." /cc @Xeo
 
Chasing away the stray cat
 
also I was not involved in the inner bushwalk circle, oh noz! LOL save me from driving everyone around
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Okay, at that point I would laugh maniacally, because that only happens in comdey shows.
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12:45 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Let's hope it is indeed water...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes how did you scratch you nipple?
 
@thecoshman I came through on yellow on previous lights and thought I'll make the next ones.
 
@BartekBanachewicz you are a terrible driver.
 
they are set up typically so that when going ~40kph you should make it
 
@chmod711telkitty you're drunk
 
12:45 PM
@thecosh fell on it.
 
@thecoshman and you base that on what again?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes fellony
 
sbi
@thecoshman Usually you do this by rapidly moving a hard, non-smooth surface across it.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz A jab on your last discussion wrt to speed :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz your admissions in the lounge
 
12:46 PM
Yeah, I wish, drunk people should not be driving so I can just not giving semi strangers lifts
 
lol seriously
 
yellow light does not equal a challenge, you are not trying to beat the light to see if you can get through. If you see a yellow light, either it changed too late to safely stop and thus keep going through and will make it before the red, or you can safely stop before you get to the line.
 
my tyre lost contact because I braked too hard
there's no fucking magic to it
 
@chmod711telkitty come back when you can talk coeherently
 
I stopped just fine FYI\
 
12:47 PM
@thecoshman einstein might disagree and try to win anyway
 
@BartekBanachewicz your self confessed inability to drive safely
 
@BartekBanachewicz because you are a terrible driver
 
@BartekBanachewicz no, you lost control.
 
@thecoshman I went through yellow on first lights, and next ones were just up next.
@thecoshman bullshit.
 
You know, the chain of events doesn't stop at "I bratek'd too hard".
 
12:47 PM
tyre slipping doesn't mean losing control.
 
@BartekBanachewicz you tire skidded, you lost control
@BartekBanachewicz yes, it does.
 
@thecoshman this is not the same at all
 
@BartekBanachewicz these are the worst drivers. The ones that excuse things with "nothing happened". You know better, and that's actually why you even mentioned it in the lounge. Now, don't get your knee-jerk defenses going. you deserve the confirmation that you fucked up there.
 
@sehe I had 3 hours for each of the two previous nights, doesn't need alcohol for being incoherent
 
the only thing I did wrong was using wrong brake
 
sbi
12:48 PM
@Xeo This once happened to us while eating outside a nice Indian restaurant at Rosenthaler Platz. Someone watered their flowers, and it rained on our table.
I guess they didn't like living atop a restaurant where people sit outside in the evening.
 
@BartekBanachewicz you failed to stop safely in time vOv simple as that
 
@thecoshman I didn't.
 
...
 
I stopped precisely where I wanted to.
 
STAHP
 
12:48 PM
The kneejerk. It's happening
 
@BartekBanachewicz your tire skidded
 
@thecoshman (please stop)
 
@thecoshman Please stop feeding him
 
tyre skidding didn't mean I fucking didn't stop
 
12:49 PM
@sbi is that near alexanderplatz?
 
I has bushwalked back from the middle of nowhere in the rain before
 
sbi
@MarcoA. 15mins walk, one or two U-Bahn stops.
 
do you even basic vehicle mechanics, at all
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's a mentionable incident. You knew this or you wouldn't have mentioned it. Downplaying it now /will/ get you killed in the future.
 
Ell
12:49 PM
I admit that I am not good at amber lights
 
@BartekBanachewicz I never said it didn't, I said you failed to safely stop in time.
 
Ell
I'm far too indecisive
 
@thecoshman which is incorrect.
 
Ell
sometimes I'll begin to slow down and then change my mind
 
12:49 PM
@BartekBanachewicz You're not arguing vehicle mechanics. You're arguing subjective semantics.
 
Ell
only to change my mind yet again
 
There's a reason why skidding your tires is considered a test failure.
 
@sehe I mentioned wrong brake usage. This wasn't related to the traffic (except that I had to brake because of a red light, which isn't really relevant)
 
so no overnight bushwalk until the new house is completely built
 
@thecoshman what skidding? When starting? When braking? Which tire? On a motorbike or in a car?
 
12:50 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Hint: when you're driving on the road, you are the traffic
 
yeah, sure.
 
Tire skidding means loss of control.
 
also had to gave 2 people a lift, one left phone in my car, spent near 20 extra minutes
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes nonsense
 
@Borgleader screen pls
 
12:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes unless you are Polish ofc
 
Bartek you're bad at admitting you've made a mistake
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@BartekBanachewicz Go take a break. you're arguing for the sake of it.
 
I did make a mistake.
Just not the kind cosh is trying to point out.
 
then lets kill this discussion
whatever, it doesn't matter, this conversation is dumb
 
@BartekBanachewicz And several since that. Like I said, the defensive attitude is more likely to get you killed than actually making a mistake (which we all do)
 
12:52 PM
the defensive attitude is put up to deal with outright BS in the first place
 
Memo from the headmaster: Effective immediately, passing 'Banishing demons 101' is a prerequisite for attending 'Summoning demons 101'.
 
@BartekBanachewicz it makes it worse, fyi
 
I said an anectode because robot fell of his bike today
 
Ell
I don't agree that tyre skidding means loss of control
 
Xeo
@Griwes haha
 
12:53 PM
@Ell how come?
 
sbi
@Griwes I love this account. Örjan is incredible.
 
If you do it on purpose don't do it on the road. There's people there.
 
sbi
So I still don't know why you fell off your bike, robot. What happened?
 
LOOK AT THAT LOSS OF CONTROL
 
Ell
12:54 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I might have misunderstood I think
 
sbi
20 secs ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
If you do it on purpose don't do it on the road. There's people there.
 
Ell
> (of a vehicle) slide, typically sideways or obliquely, on slippery ground or as a result of stopping or turning too quickly.
 
user1804599
yay @BartekBanachewicz @Ven jsfiddle.net/rightfold/ncvg3srd/24
 
as if people on the road suddenly changed laws of physics
 
Er
Fuck you, I guess.
 
Ell
12:55 PM
I did misunderstand, I think tyre skidding going round a corner probably indicates loss of control
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's not me who fell HTH.
 
ITT @Bartek is continuously missing the point
 
Ell
if not loss of control then you don't have tread on your tyres
 
@BartekBanachewicz No. The laws of traffic constrain unreliable maneuvres that the laws of physics allow
 
@BartekBanachewicz Now that's just a dick move.
 
sbi
12:55 PM
Ah, scratch that last reply by me, @Bartek. If you compare yourself with professional drivers at a race, this discussion between us is finished. Just make sure you stay away from any roads and streets in my vicinity.
 
@Griwes look what I responded to
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sadly I cannot kick you right now
 
@Ell Unintentional tire skidding is always loss of control no matter where.
 
why don't we ask robot why he fell though
 
Because you keep fueling this
 
Ell
12:56 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think you can skid in a controlled manner
 
And if you do it on purpose on the road, get the fuck out is the only reasonable answer.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's kinda in the name, isn't it? "unintentional" :D
 
@sehe I'll gladly shift the topic to someone else's failure
 
@TonyTheLion Ouch. How come?
 
Ell
I don't think it's a good idea on the road at all
 
sbi
12:57 PM
@BartekBanachewicz So, yeah, let's all take about or failure to ignore your trolling.
 
Oh well. Glad you thought important to bring in an unrelated context.
 
I wasn't trolling.
 
Communication 101
 
@Jefffrey Not something I care to share here.
 
sbi
@Jefffrey His life wasn't all miserably?
 
12:58 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Instead, Think about this. The event in the lounge seems far more disruptive and life-impacting than the one on the road. This is more likely to cost you things in life. (Jobs, relations.). Just have a break, will you
 
@TonyTheLion Fair enough
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes sorry, I misunderstood "skidding" in the first place vOv
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh sure, I'll go get my f1 car and do 200 around town shall I. You really are an ubelivable fool at times
 
5 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
the defensive attitude is put up to deal with outright BS in the first place
 
So you're the victim. Congrats.
 
12:58 PM
I come from a nation where we stand up to bullshit you know. We're known for this.
 
sbi
"I come from a nation where we stand up to bullshit you. Know we're known for this."
 
@BartekBanachewicz noone else is consistently defending dangerous mistakes
 
Ell
I thought someone was going to make a reference to the war then
 
12:59 PM
The Lounge is a dangerous mistake
 
May 26 at 13:25, by Bartek Banachewicz
@thecoshman then you're misreading what I said. Kindly go back to the beginning and read what I said again, more slowly this time.
 
we've all defended it
 
I'm getting tired of repeating this
 

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