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11:00 AM
@Kyll great
 
@KevinGuan ;)
 
@PetterFriberg I have found TinyGiant's audit userscript, installed it, but I have set it to disable
 
@Kyll =D
 
Plop! Kevin
 
11:00 AM
@Ferrybig Check here!, posted some screen shot and link
 
@BhargavRao Plop!
 
@Ferrybig, now you can do the best of both world feed closey from excel and cvs-pls request....
 
hey he was flattering
I've never been called an expert before:P
 
11:03 AM
@PetterFriberg Thats really useful
 
send some waffles to @Gothdo... I'm just responsible for marketing
 
:( @Drew has no open cv batches at the moment
 
you can look at archived ones
 
@PetterFriberg And for the idea, I wouldn't have made it if you hadn't asked for making it.
@rene I'm going to make a PR, should I change the @namespace of the userscript to https://github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/?
 
yup
how do you think they got to 87k?
busy busy rep whoring
 
11:08 AM
Hmm...you're right.
But why do they try to get such large rep?
 
compensating for something...if you know what I mean
 
@AndrasDeak lol (but I don't know what you mean :( ). Anyway, I tried to get more rep for the privileges (see! I'm a good guy!)
 
Oh Hiya @Kevin
 
@AndrasDeak obviously to get the free box of swag that you get when you reach 100k
 
lol:D
talk about being a cheapo
 
11:12 AM
@Tunaki o/
 
@AndrasDeak compare it with.. working hard to conquer the heart of your crush VS buying a mail order bride
 
:D
except that both the crush and the bride cost a lot of money
wheres free swag is free
 
Wafflez
 
11:18 AM
@TimCastelijns Huh, so actually we have 354 100kers.
And I'm #8884 :(
 
!!/coffee
 
@Tushar brews coffee for @Tushar
 
@Gothdo I can merge it. Did rene say something about the namespace?
 
@KevinGuan #6409 for me
 
@TimCastelijns Yeah yeah, you have more 3k than me.
!!/blame
 
11:21 AM
@KevinGuan It's Tim Castelijns's fault.
 
@KevinGuan Not a Number for me because I don't have 100k yet, :D
 
Oops
 
@Ferrybig he means rank
Kevin's 10k
 
@Tunaki No, but for example here namespace is a link to the author's GitHub profile, so I think it's OK to left the namespace as it is.
 
@Ferrybig Yeah :P
 
11:22 AM
@KevinGuan haha that is indeed my fault
 
@Gothdo Okay. Merged (cc @rene)
 
@TimCastelijns See, told ya that the unicorns are all clever!
 
11:34 AM
> The java scripts, J-query and Ajax technologies
When will people understand that the difference between JavaScript and a Java script is like the difference between a hotdog and a hot dog?
 
@Gothdo you're telling me a hotdog is not a hot dog? :o
 
There is no such thing as a Java script really.
 
Think it's pretty obvious he made a typo and means javascript
 
@Tunaki Yeah, I know, it doesn't make sense because Java is not a scripting language.
 
javascript is only named so because java was becoming popular when it was made
it doesnt, in actuality, have anything to do with java
 
11:38 AM
@TimCastelijns But why the s at the end?
 
Moar typos.
 
I dont know, he doesn't appear to be a native english speaker
 
not an excuse to not know how to spell
 
@Adriaan A hotdog is something you can eat, a hot dog is a dog which is hot.
 
If you're an IT person, you should speak passable english
 
11:39 AM
@Gothdo you can eat dog too, in fact, it's quite good actually.
 
@Tunaki there isn't, but that doesn't stop novices from calling Java code a Java script anyway nowadays. Yet they really do refer to Java and not Javascript.
 
What if you make a hotdog composed of a hot dog?
 
@Adriaan Maybe, but certainly not as good as waffles.
 
@Magisch if that were true there would only be an english SO
 
Ferrybig passed a audit!
 
11:40 AM
@TimCastelijns Notice "should" =/= "have to"
 
@TimCastelijns people choose the easy way out. Like suicide.
 
@Magisch everyone should speak proper English. But I'd say that reading it gets you far enough in IT
 
Im of the opinion that every decent programmer speaks at least passable conversation english
Whoever doesn't is not a decent programmer
 
@KevinGuan yes
 
11:41 AM
Okay
 
What if a hot dog eats a hotdog and you eat that hot dog in a hotdog?
 
dogception
 
@AndrasDeak I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Tunaki Hmm...how can I in a hotdog ?
 
dang, now I have to review?
nah, sometime later
 
11:44 AM
@AndrasDeak Say opt out then.
 
When you back, remember say opt in.
 
@Closey opt out
 
@AndrasDeak You have opted-out of tracking, and will remain this way until you run opt in.
 
thanks for the tip
 
11:44 AM
No problem \o/
 
\o :)
 
Closey won't count your reviews though.
 
Q: Why we can't just see deleted posts in /questions/tagged/[tag] and the profile page of other users?
@Tunaki Huh?
 
@Tunaki but she won't mingle my review stats, right?
I generally only review in the review queue
 
I wonder if shog secretly frowns on people completing CV reviews every 12s
 
11:45 AM
unless I bump into some deep poo
 
Closey is now ignoring you until you opt in again.
 
@Tunaki I know, she told me. And duh
but now she won't think that it takes me 10 hours to perform a review, I assume:P
 
Correct lol
 
Why is closey a she?
 
ask her parents
 
11:47 AM
@Tunaki are you dating the chatbot again?
 
@Magisch Wait, just a second.
 
Wasn't me.
 
Jan 24 at 18:24, by Sam
@Tunaki Closey is a she.
 
So @Tunaki is dating the chatbot again
 
Blame that guy ^^
 
11:49 AM
@Magisch By the way:
Dec 27 '15 at 14:20, by Sam
For those that care. Closey is female. Pham and Yam are male.
Oh, Sam is...you should ask him/her if you wonder :P
 
And now I need to eat. afk
Don't trash the place.
I have eyes everywhere.
 
bón áppétít
I wasn't sure about the accents so I went for certain
 
In addition to dating her, @Tunaki has made @Closey his secret spy, too.
 
@AndrasDeak you missed hats.
Or are those for quantum mechanics?
 
outside my locale
besides, French hats can be substituted for a few s-es here and there
as in Hospital
 
11:54 AM
"Fix the review audit system. It is buggy, it is broken. Particularly the audits for the low-quality review queue. This is the main reason I stopped doing reviews myself. I find it offensive that users who are trying to help improving the site get incorrectly review-banned, over and over. Since SO can't be bothered to fix this, their hired personnel can do all the reviews, for all I care" : )
maybe true, just hire some guys and they can do it all : )
 
@PetterFriberg I ever had a problem with low quality audits, only with the close ones
 
@Ferrybig Same here, but I have seen troubles with low quality audits...
Now that Tuna is commenting is getting easier..
 
Anyone tried talking to the Microsoft AI on Twitter today?
 
I usually don't do that:P
 
And back
 
12:03 PM
It's surprisingly good (and funny!)
 
@DavidG did it pass your personal turing test?
 
It replied to me with a Robert Downey Jr meme...
 
@TimCastelijns Most of this room regulars does not pass any kind of Turing test
 
lol:D
 
12:07 PM
well, you're not wrong
 
@Ferrybig You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 46 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 30 seconds.
 
void kyll_unfriendly (int rageMode) {
return unfriendlyKyll_response;
}
 
return Math.pow(unfriendlyKyll_response,rageMode);
 
Public Kyll currentKyll;
Set currentKyll = New Kyll;
 
12:18 PM
@kayess yes
 
Any ideas about his answer there? ^
 
@KevinGuan There are 2 possibilities:
#1 it was a misjudged edit attempt
#2 changing the file type solved his issue
 
No need you tell me that...=p
Anyway, I'm thinking about another possibility:
Since I think that the question is unanswerable, how about leave that answer there, and just delete the question instead?
 
Is it truly such a terrible question? Seems like something that can happen to others as well
Let me put it this way: its heaps better than the average Java question. It contains a problem statement, code and the resulting error.
 
Well, that code is incomplete. And I'm sure that the full code would be very long (if he posted the full code, then it's more No MCVE).
He didn't tell us what's self, or self.styles, etc. and we can't just run that code to reproduce the issue.
 
12:34 PM
you're not making deletion arguments for me, but I'm just a lowly little lurker ;)
 
Okay :P
Oh wait, that answer has gone.
 
@Magisch - Could be any of those.. Moved it to a comment (not the best decision.. but not a bad one either)
 
> converted to a comment by TheLostMind♦ 2 mins ago
Oh I should have took a look at it.
 
@KevinGuan - Please do :)
 
Is this worthy of a mod flag to fix? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/272103/…
also, morning!
 
12:40 PM
@gunr2171 - morning
 
@gunr2171 - morning
 
I won't hiya because you said a message before "morning". Now I'm sulking.
 
: (
 
@gunr2171 Wow, the UI of RO was so bad before...and seems you crashed Tunaki :(
 
user3956566
is this naa?
 
12:43 PM
morning. Also morning to you, gunr.
 
morning
 
morning
 
See gunr? Now that a fine gentleman saying morning
@ryanyuyu Hiya o/
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Not really.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW not quite. Even removing all the links, you still have some resemblence of an answer "Then you'll just have to create a jaxws:client in spring... Or just the cxf component in camel"
 
From a swift Book ---> i.stack.imgur.com/U8XPX.png
 
12:45 PM
that's hilarious
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW - I declined it. It is not NAA (or even VLQ). He has a comment that can improve the answer if it is edited.
 
@BhargavRao well haters gonna hate anyway
 
NAA -> Not trying to answer the question
 
user3956566
it reads like this
 
user3956566
> You can surely use LINK or LINK or even LINK
Then you'll just have to create a jaxws:client in spring LINK
Or just the cxf component in camel LINK
 
user3956566
12:47 PM
how on earth is that an answer?
 
is the link text helpful?
just to be clear:)
 
The links are towards well known Maven plugins.
 
user3956566
@AndrasDeak I don't think so
 
Last two lines hint at an answer, IMO.
 
user3956566
and then there's this
 
12:48 PM
That is at best a comment.
 
user3956566
> I've used these to export to excel on different projects: LINK LINK
I believe both use openxml
If you want more information I'd need to understand where you're getting a checkbox when you expect a string. In other words. I don't understand where that is happening in your code sample.
 
user3956566
they were both declined, and the second one has delete comments on it also
 
The second one is more tricky.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW - Just because an answer has a link, that answer doesn't automatically qualify for a NAA / VLQ, If the answer has a good comment, then it is valid (the answer could be edited to incorporate the comment)
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Huh, that question is off-topic - I usually ignore the answers when the question is off-topic since we can just simply close & delete the question. I'm not sure about that answer anyway.
 
12:50 PM
^ that. the question is pretty broad.
 
going to be out of chat a lot today, got a lot of work that needs to get done
 
ok
 
ah.
 
user3956566
I'm at a point of quitting attempting to moderate SO. There's no necessity for mods to keep declining my flags, when the community would at least dispute it @JonClements I've had 1324 helpful flags and over half of my declined flags have been since we've taken on the two new mods. Please advise where I can take this up. I don't dare ask on meta, as meta is attached to the crap posted on SO.
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind what comment? It's saying use this link or that link or that link. It's not an answer.
 
12:52 PM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW - *J2EE is nothing more than a stack, a collection of framework that forms a collection. You can use CXF/Spring with another Framework (such as OSGi) and just import what interests you (for example, camel-cxf, spring-core, ...). For example, I'm working on an OSGi environment, but we are using codegen plugin to generate the class and then integrate them with camel-cxf. *
 
1. why did you ping Jon?:D
2. you could give up NAA/VLQ like a bunch of others, I can see that it's a very controversial area
 
He explains why those links are necessary
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind it doesn't say that, you are saying that
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Hold it right there. I don't like the tone of that discussion. Could you guys move that to a private room if you want to keep talking?
 
user3956566
@Tunaki don't you? Quick to put on the RO hat. No surprises there. Like everyone else who becomes RO
 
12:55 PM
ouch
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I'm pretty sure that's uncalled for, Ms Yvette:/
 
I don't. You are pinging a moderator out of context based on something he may or may not have done.
 
Coffee time?
 
user3956566
@AndrasDeak I've seen a lot of uncalled for things in this room, and let's see if I am kicked before anyone else who are far more insulting.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW sure, it's your call. I just noted that I don't think your issue is with Tunaki.
 
user3956566
12:57 PM
@Tunaki He didn't do it, I'm asking him to review it @JonClements for clarity, I am complaining, and am asking you before I go to the team via email.
 
I don't like to watch valuable contributors go at each other's throats
 
@ryanyuyu totally agree...can we just take a break?
 
@Tunaki is right.. That discussion is not supposed to be done here.. @MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW
 
user3956566
oh boo hoo, I'll go. Good to know who my friends are not,
 
I don't see what the room can do more except to tell you what we think about those answers you flagged. We did so.
 
1:06 PM
The silence hurts.
 
Not anymore :)
 
did I do that!?
 
of course you did
Closey committed suicide
 
We blame you
 
1:07 PM
Strangely, I feel proud.
 
!!/blame
 
@AndrasDeak It's ryanyuyu's fault.
 
close enough
 
nooooooooo
forgive me
 
nevah
 
1:08 PM
You killed @Tunaki 's girlfriend
you monster
 
@magisch lol!
 
We all blame you.
Question is: who does the "you" refer to?
 
you can be plural
 
I can??
 
1:09 PM
Hehe
 
@Magisch you win!
 
@Magisch nice
 
next meta post: "I want to be able to revoke my earlier close vote in the review queue."
 
@Tunaki The beauty of ambiguity
 
What's wrong with you Closey?
 
1:16 PM
I assume she crashed
 
she's crashing at Tunaki's place
@Closey alive
 
@AndrasDeak I feel... happy!
 
Then I'm happy too.
 
yay
 
@AndrasDeak If you know what I mean (lennyface)
 
1:17 PM
:D
I didn't know that name btw
 
@AndrasDeak ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
I googled it, of course
hence the past tense
but thanks:)
 
Sam
Hey guys
 
hi!
Closey just had a thing
one with Tunaki
and also an error
 
yo
 
Sam
1:19 PM
Meh
Not my problem
 
Blame websockets.
 
Sam
That's originating from our websocket lib
 
@Closey next 10 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@Braiam The next 10 tags are: 36, 29, 26, 26, 23, 23, 22, 22, 22, 21
 
tags to burn?
 
1:22 PM
@Gimby Yes, we definitely should burn .
 
no tags to filter on in review que...
 
lol, didn't notice that one so quickly :)
 
@Gothdo lol
 
I was worried there for a second
 
You did that yesterday
this morning I was merrily reviewing c close votes and ran out
shoo
 
1:25 PM
@ryanyuyu I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
See? I definitely did not kill Closey.
 
She probably still has wobbly knees from the last encounter with @Tunaki so the latency is higher
I wonder how far we can drive human <-> chatbot innuendo
 
Sam
@Clo status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 8dbd64ac on master, running for 11 hours, 44 minutes, and 4 seconds (tracking latency 29848ms).
 
Sam
What. The. Heck.
 
1:29 PM
\o
 
latency here is?
 
@Mogsdad moggy o/
 
@Magisch As long as those chatbots don't start penetration tests on people...
 
Mornin' y'all o/
 
@Cerbrus Oh tunaki has been pentesting closey alright
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
Sam
1:31 PM
@Braiam time between a user completing a review and closey noticing it.
 
@Fred-ii- morning
 
Sam
Hey Fred
 
Plop Fred!
 
Plop Fred and Kyll
 
@KevinGuan what the heck is the selenium tag doing there?
 
1:34 PM
> More specifically I'm using Selenium to test a webpage and part of the requirements are for a screenshot of a results page to be saved in PDF format.
But yeah, that part and the tag could be removed from the question.
 
@KevinGuan that's my point... what has selenium to do with generating pdf using C#
cue another tangential/keyword tagging
 
how's everybody doing today?
 
@Braiam Well, maybe the answer could also be: How can I save a page as pdf using selenium?
 
@Fred-ii- bad
 
@Braiam Maybe they want the selenium webdriver to do that job.
 
1:38 PM
@Fred-ii- Yeah, bad too.
 
@Fred-ii- Kevin's feeling bad, I'm fine then!
 
Let's say that: Because Kyll's feeling good, I'm also fine. (Note that the point is Kyll will be sad and I'll also be sad but Kyll will be good then but I'll also be good...)
 
@rene in which case begs the "why the c# tag then"...
 
@Braiam the webdriver has c# bindings
 
Hm... now how can I turn "bad" to => "good"?!
 
1:41 PM
so... selenium can just pass c# the grunt work of making the pdf?
 
user3956566
@Fred-ii- terrible, I'll explain on fb
 
(actually, that's what one answer does)
 
@Fred-ii- Ask Smokey: if he doesn't blame you, then you'll be good.
 
!!/blame
 
@Magisch It's Eric D.'s fault.
 
1:43 PM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Skype?
 
@KevinGuan Just as long as I wasn't the one who poo'd on his corn flakes Yipe!
 
meh, I will get a shovel and review
 
user3956566
@Kyll I left a message
 
@SmokeDetector wut?
 
user3956566
I'm going to take a couple of days off SO. I'm feeling very ill and distressed, my son is sick in hospital and we're all distressed. So it's magnifying small issues on SO. Talk later.
 
1:45 PM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW best wishes.
 
For those feeling bad, a visit on YouTube and lookup "George Carlin" ought to help, as would "Redd Foxx" stand-up comedy stuff ;)
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Remets-toi bien
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW best wishes for you and your family, get well
 
anyone sees why should this be closed? stackoverflow.com/q/36106635/792066
the "general computing" close reason just throws me off
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW mine as well
 
1:48 PM
Why do a large number of userscripts from this room break when using https... The only reason they break is because they have a fixed "http://" in front of them...
 
@Braiam possibly(????) broad. But the general computing close vote makes no sense.
 
@Braiam - Too broad
 
@Braiam General Computing seems right to me. The user has downloaded and installed a piece of software and is asking a question about end-user configuration. Not programming. If it's a question about "how do I use this software?", and the software isn't something generally used for software development, then "General Computing".
 
@Ferrybig You mean the @include?
 
@Tunaki You earned a lot of respect from me on how you handle @MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW difficult situation, we just all need to remember that we are all humans, frustration hits and in that moment the right words need to be found.
 
1:55 PM
@Kyll I mean the @match
 
Ian
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW please take your time, and may your son gets well soon.
 
@Ferrybig ... I think @match is for TamperMonkey and @include is for GreaseMonkey
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Fingers crossed here too. Always here if you need some poetry :)
 
@Kyll Nope, @match works in both.
 
@Gothdo Oh, alright then
 
1:57 PM
@Ferrybig status completed on your re-tag request
 
@JonClements You are really quick every time, thx
 
> The @match metadata imperative is very similar to @include, however it is safer. It sets more strict rules on what the * character means.
 
@Ferrybig Only where it's clear cut and I agree :p
 
Ian
What do we do with answers in different language than English? Put as VLQ?
 

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