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2:02 PM
@Ian Heeeeeh. They're not VLQ if there's code... If you remove the fluff (non-English text), you're left with a piece of code which is not VLQ
 
> Answers written in non-English should be flagged as not an answer.
 
JAL
Morning all
 
@JAL Morning
 
@JAL Hi!
 
@PraveenKumar sorry : )
 
2:03 PM
Ha ha...
 
JAL
@EricD. do you think we should close this as a dupe of my canonical here?
o/
 
@TimCastelijns I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Which close reason should I choose for this? Too broad?
 
Seems fine
 
@JAL yeah, I just DH'd it, your canonical is the best version to target
 
JAL
2:07 PM
@EricD. thank you
 
Ian
@Kyll I see @Gothdo thanks for the reference
 
JAL
@BhargavRao lol, I know the pain of waiting for Xcode to download. Wasted over an hour upgrading my Mac to El Capitan and Xcode 7.3
At least I got to play with the Xbox 360 dev kit we have in the office
 
@KevinGuan Technically, it's an answer.
 
2:10 PM
@KevinGuan yes
 
Okay
 
@KevinGuan Its an answer
 
Thanks
 
might even be a semi-decent one if it solves the question on its own
 
No worries.
 
2:13 PM
@KevinGuan the guy graciously provided a fiddle, but linked it as a comment. course of action is to edit the link + code into the answer probably?
 
@Gothdo I'm not sure if non-English answers which contain code are NAA... If you edit out the text, you're left with a chunk of code - That may make for a bad answer, but it would still be an answer.
 
@KevinGuan - Unfortunately Yes. It is a valid answer. Not NAA because it tries to answer the question and not VLQ because This answer is unlikely to be salvageable through editing, and might need to be removed. doesn't apply. OP could edit it to add some more info
 
lol, ping train :)
 
@Kyll If the answer completly without the non-english part would make sense on its own, then its not NAA
Like a link only
If they answer would make sense w/o the link then its also not NAA
 
@Kyll Yes, but some code without any explanation isn't very useful.
 
2:15 PM
@Gothdo Not very, but still not NAA-Delete worthy
 
@Gothdo Indeed, but it's still an answer. That's an edge case.
 
@Arokiyanathan: ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​Please edit your answer, and put the link into it. Also please try to make your answer detailed and clearly. See: How to AnswerKevin Guan 15 secs ago
I think I've done what I can do \o/
 
Btw @Kyll are you ignoring me?
 
@Magisch I think he is.
!!/blame
 
@KevinGuan It's Praveen Kumar's fault.
 
2:17 PM
Kyll is ignoring me :(
 
@JAL I don't see how it's a plagiarized answer? It's similar but not the same (unless OP edited during the grace period?)
 
@Magisch How could I ignore my best fan? The bad network I have just allows you to ninja me each time I say something
 
@Kyll :D
 
JAL
@EricD. Ah yeah it was edited before I commented, it used to be much similar to that second answer on the dupe target question
 
ok
 
2:19 PM
It's so bad if Kyll really ignores you. Think about nobody will say "Plop" to you anymore, and...ah, I want leave the Earth!!!
 
@JAL Lol, Did not know that, I thought the book was lying :D
 
JAL
lol
 
@KevinGuan No that's a question :)
 
@KevinGuan MHH
 
2:21 PM
@Gimby What if I remove could you try to then?
 
@KevinGuan One could understand "could you try to change x" as "you should try to change x"... Bit of a stretch maybe, but I think it's what this OP means.
 
@KevinGuan that would probably make it "good enough to keep", yes.
 
@KevinGuan - Unfortunately yes (again)
 
So that would make it an answer, but after some editing.
 
2:22 PM
not sure how to tell SD
ah thanks
 
@TylerH Like that, but it's gone :(
@TheLostMind Okay
 
I'm guessing TLM lobotomized it
 
@TylerH - I did
 
@TheLostMind And by the way, could you please remove the comment there then? Or you want me have a free flag? :)
 
@KevinGuan - Which one?
 
2:25 PM
@ryanyuyu Are you sure that this one is link-only? I think it's an answer because:
> I'm the creator of Angular Sticky and already have this feature implemented.
 
@KevinGuan - I don't see it
 
This does not provide an answer to the question. Once you have sufficient reputation you will be able to comment on any post; instead, provide answers that don't require clarification from the asker. - From ReviewPVitt 1 hour ago
 
But he isn't explaning how to use that implemented feature.
 
This one ^
 
done
 
2:29 PM
@Lafexlos Then we better ask him for an edit, instead of delete it right?
15 mins ago, by TheLostMind
@KevinGuan - Unfortunately Yes. It is a valid answer. Not NAA because it tries to answer the question and not VLQ because This answer is unlikely to be salvageable through editing, and might need to be removed. doesn't apply. OP could edit it to add some more info
 
@KevinGuan But that doesn't answer the question. That just says "I solved it" and gives a link.
 
Well we are having debates if VLQ and NAA should indeed be considered seperately
 
Hmm...
 
@KevinGuan Then almost every link only can be seen that way. Since those links also include solution.
 
Let me try to remove these links and see what happened.
So the first line we can just ignore it.
 
2:32 PM
@TheLostMind You are? They need to be merged, yes yes, please merge them, please please :D meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/318952/…
 
The second line almost isn't changed after removed the link.
 
Also, if I am not mistaken, he can un-delete it. So, for now it's link only. If he edits and includes additional info, he can undelete and mods get a ping and confirm if it's worthy of undeletion or not.
 
Well, huh. After removed the links, only the second line is still useful.
 
@Tunaki - Actually makes sense. Was not sure if that was a good idea at first, but looking the flags, most people don't know which one to use (interestingly you don't fall under that category)
 
@Lafexlos I agree with that delete it anyway, but I think you better post these as a comment so he'll understand what he should do after his answer get deleted.
 
2:36 PM
There already is a comment which is sent from review. "While this link may answer the question, it is better to include the essential parts of the answer here and provide the link for reference." I think that explains quite well.
 
@TheLostMind Really? Lol :D
 
@Tunaki - Go check your profile
shoo
 
@TheLostMind Did you put a waffle there?
 
Anyways. Its night night for me guys
@KevinGuan - Umm nope..
 
@TheLostMind Sleep well..
 
2:38 PM
@Lafexlos Huh, I'd say that it's not enough since which didn't tell him what should he include. In other words, what's the essential parts for his answer.
@TheLostMind :(
But anyway, bonne nuit!
 
@KevinGuan - Let us check if he edits the answer. Will move it to a comment if he doesn't. IMHO the only thing that is stopping us from converting it into a comment is the line I am the creator of (which shouldn't be the case)
 
@TheLostMind HE DID PUT A WAFFLE!!!!
WAFFLES EVERYWHERE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 
REALLY??? I'M CHECKING IT OUT NOW!!!!
 
@TheLostMind Yep I think it would simplify the flagging process for a lot of folks out there.
 
brb changing my username to waffles
 
2:40 PM
@Tunaki (where's the waffle?)
 
it got ate
 
I ate it. Sorry.
 
@TheLostMind Ah, okay.
And could you also give me a waffle please? Tuna ate his and didn't give me any of it :(
 
night night @PetterFriberg , @Tunaki , @KevinGuan .. (looks at the long list) @all :P
 
2:42 PM
Cya
 
Cya
 
Cya
 
Cya
 
Bye
 
Nooooooo....THE TRAIN!!!
 
2:43 PM
there is a Y in the center of my word as well.
 
Hmm, Who else sleeps at 8pm?
 
@BhargavRao Nah, it's 11pm.
 
@BhargavRao Some days, because of traffic, I can't even reach home at 8pm. :(
 
@Cerbrus The stone torture in some Asia small countries?
 
2:45 PM
It's 8 pm at TLM's place :-(
I sleep at 4am
 
You sleep?
 
@BhargavRao srsly?
 
You mean you charge batteries?
4
 
@Tunaki That --^
 
@KevinGuan The monthy python stoning scene.
 
2:46 PM
@Gimby Yeah :/
 
@Tunaki Yeah, that.
 
@Cerbrus respect points for the python reference, by the way
 
@Cerbrus :(
 
@Gimby now is that Python 2 or Python 3? ;-)
 
@KevinGuan That stoning is thing called "cezm" which is in Islamic culture IIRC. Assuming you asked it seriously. If not, just don't even answer. I'm not good at getting rhetoric questions. lol
 
2:48 PM
@TylerH Sure it's Python 5 (2+3)
 
Three, sir
 
@Gimby Whoo :D
 
Thou shalt not count to 4
5 is right out
@Lafexlos also Christian
 
@Lafexlos Ah, got it. Really don't know how to say that in English.
 
Count to three, no more, no less.
 
2:50 PM
I love Python (Monty, not that silly programming langauge... :P)
5
 
@DavidG careful there
 
@TylerH Huh, didn't know that. Now there's a thing to research for.
 
@TimCastelijns At least it's better than you-know-what
 
@KevinGuan Me neither. It's translated as stoning so no need to know that I suppose.
 
@Lafexlos well, more old testament, which has fallen out of practice
 
2:51 PM
@DavidG yeah it's better than C# you're right :)
 
@TimCastelijns Yeah, better at being sucky!
 
@Lafexlos Ah, okay :P
 
rolls up sleeves
 
@TimCastelijns Dipping in your arm in the cesspool that is PHP again?
 
@TimCastelijns No need to, They are like frogs in a well.
They have no idea of the outside beautiful world, other than the muddy waters of C# :P
 
2:55 PM
@BhargavRao nicely phrased
 
@BhargavRao Completely agree. Java is the high-land and C# is the muddy waters.
 
Java hahahahahaha
 
well high lands tend to be windy
 
@Tunaki (cc @Tim - Another "well" being)
 
And vb6 is the dirty hooker shooting up meth in the alley
 
2:56 PM
One simply cannot imagine a better and more beautiful world without Java.
It embraces all that is wonderful in the world and gives sense to it.
 
But we both agree that C# is muddy waters
 
But isn't Python the best? You can even fly if you learn it! xkcd.com/353
 
import antigravity
 
that ^
 
that ^^
 
2:59 PM
ha! ninja'd a "that ^"
 
@Gimby :)
 
fixed it
 
!!/blame
 
@KevinGuan It's Magisch's fault.
 
Okay, so after this blame, I have to go to bed now. Cya tomorrow o/
 
3:05 PM
Cya
 
Good night Kevin.
 
Good night Kevin.
 
here's a special case. Starts out as "unclear" because it's italian, and then gets translated into a tool request: Quali tecniche per l'analisi del codice? . No further action needed right?
 
@Gimby tagged
 
Cya
 
3:13 PM
cries internally
 
it went poof
 
Cya Kevin.
 
@Tunaki as if by magisch
 
@Gimby Thats semantically wrong, even if you meant the german magisch
 
@Gimby io capito la lingua lol yeah that just got deleted. They were asking for softwarer.
 
3:15 PM
Either "As if by Magic" or "Wie durch Magie"
io capito la lingua whats that mean?
 
@Magisch it means I understand the language ;)
 
@KevinGuan sorry I was away. But yeah I chose "recommend deletion" because there isn't actually any explanation of how the linked resource actually works.
 
@Magisch sheesh, since when do puns need to be semantically correct.
 
@BhargavRao sorry man, I'm an android dev, I love java
 
@TimCastelijns There are two statements in that that make most developers despise your guts
 
3:18 PM
@Magisch He's Dutch, isn't that enough?
 
Let me guess, "I am" and "I love"
 
@TimCastelijns Kivy?
 
Kivy is the most horrible framework i have ever worked with
Once you go Kivy, you go back to whatever you did before immediately :p
 
You go back to assembly
 
I don't know. It just doesn't make sense to me
 
3:23 PM
@BhargavRao I love assembly
 
A tag disambiguation request on meta - meta.stackoverflow.com/q/319590/4099593
 
burn all teh thingz
 
@Tunaki Comment there :P
 
I'll hand that work to you. You're the pun master here.
 
I like 1. Burn all teh thingzBhargav Rao 17 secs ago
 
3:30 PM
Haha OPs name
Procrastinatus Maximus
Love it
 
@Fred-ii- OP has a few of the best PHP users on his question: stackoverflow.com/q/36181972 but will lose them all on that question :)
 
@Rizier123 yep. Oh well, we can't save them all. I closed that tab on my last comment ;)
@Rizier123 as a very last comment to OP... if that still throws the same error, their setup failed.
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 8dbd64ac on master, running for 13 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds (tracking latency 30340ms).
 
3:47 PM
I found a user suggesting a bunch of edits that remove the "backward" tag. But that burnination request hasn't even been planned yet. For example: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/11746228
I forget. Can you ping suggested edits that are still pending?
 
@ryanyuyu Probably because of this answer
@ryanyuyu No
 
JAL
@EricD. have you seen this with Xcode 7.3? struck out module - Xcode 7.3? I think I found out what causes it.
 
Ah. that's a problem.
 
@ryanyuyu Rejected with custom reason
 
@ryanyuyu That ^ It doesn't fix other issues.
 
3:50 PM
@AshishAhujaツ Do not go around randomly removing a tag from lots of questions. There is a discussion on meta that has not yet reached a conclusion. — DavidG 22 secs ago
 
@JAL Yeah your answer is right. And I've already seen this in 7.3b5 I think (not sure about the strikethrough, though, maybe it was graphically different).
 
@DavidG ty
 
Not sure if editor will see that, had to guess the @
 
JAL
@EricD. cool, just making sure I wasn't losing my mind, thanks
 
@Kyll cool. I did that on a few other ones. Do you have a preferred comment for this situation?
 
3:52 PM
@ryanyuyu I wrote "This tag is not being burninated, the request has not been validated. Removing tags wildly is a bad idea."
Could do better, like point to the SOCVR Burnination process
 
@Kyll that's pretty similar to what I've been leaving.
 
Speaking of the burnination process, is there any plan to move that to meta rather than Github?
 
anyone have that link handy?
 
^ "A community consensus has not been reached"
 
Is this burnination file on github appropriate as a reference?
 
3:55 PM
@DavidG ... Add that as a question to the room meeting =p
@ryanyuyu Yeah, it's our reference at least
 
@Kyll I can never make the meetings, that's usually when I'm eating or driving.
 
@DavidG It will probably last for more than an hour with all there's to discuss
 
@Kyll Yeah, sometimes it takes me 45 min to drive home, usually 30 min, then all I want to do is cook some food, not sit in front of a laptop :/
 
@JAL looks like it started in 7.3b3 without being documented: stackoverflow.com/questions/35671637/…
 
Aw =/
 
3:57 PM
@DavidG that's too bad. One of the perks of living in a smaller city. 5-10 minute commute.
 
JAL
@EricD. Nice find, shame this isn't formally documented. Should we close that as a dupe of this?
or is there a better dupe target?
 
Maybe a gist would be a good place to set up a meeting agenda? Something similar to the RO nominations?
 
JAL
@DavidG we have one iirc
 
afk
 
4:01 PM
CubeJockey has noticed the same thing on their meta question
 
@JAL I'm not a fan of dupehammering an old question to a new one... Maybe you could just post a comment under the old question linking to your new solution? I'm not sure. Doubts. So many doubts... ;)
 
@gunr2171 Ah, good stuff. Want me to add a PR for my question above?
 
sure!
 
JAL
@EricD. I see no problem with that, but ok
 
AFK, going to buy toys for work. I love this job.
 
4:04 PM
@JAL or you can VTC to the new one of course. What I don't like for this is using my DH.
 
JAL
@EricD. ok
 
@Kyll what kind of toys?
 
@gunr2171 done!
 
merged
 
awesome just read that. Thanks @DavidG
 
4:07 PM
ty
 
Woohoo "Great Answer" badge on Meta \o/
 
I'm jealous. But congrats.
 
@ryanyuyu Same with me. :D
 
4:24 PM
@JAL OP has edited the old question stackoverflow.com/questions/35671637/…
 
JAL
@EricD. Yep I see, I can't reproduce their issue specifically yet, will keep trying.
 
4:38 PM
I just VTC'd about 60 posts from , hit the queue guys.
 
there is an event in 3 hours as well
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
This tag is horrible.
 
Still loving @Gothdo's review finding script!
 
@Closey refresh tags
 
4:49 PM
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@rene Tag data has been refreshed.
 
@Closey current tag
 
@rene The current tag is with 1337 known review items.
 
@Closey reviews today
 
@Tunaki You've reviewed 55 posts today (of which 4 were audits). The time between your first and last review today was 7 hours, 30 minutes, and 21 seconds, averaging to a review every 8 minutes and 29 seconds.
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
@gunr2171 Burned all votes on guidelines. None worth keeping.
 
4:53 PM
... I guess you know where some of my cv's have gone!
 
PHP?
 
Well, undoubtedly some always go there. So much poo.
I'm free for the event today, so I'll hold on to 45 or so for that.
 
@Closey reviews today
 
@Braiam You've reviewed 55 posts today (of which 2 were audits). The time between your first and last review today was 12 hours, 8 minutes, and 15 seconds, averaging to a review every 13 minutes and 14 seconds.
 
so 5 more?
 
4:59 PM
all you can eat
 

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