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12:01 AM
Someone voted up the question. :/
 
@AndrewTobilko be aware the that project-euler tag was burned‌​. I also removed the [static] tag; tags should be what the question is about, not what it contains. — gunr2171 6 secs ago
 
@Fred-ii- Do we want to go through the close vote queue for PHP duplicate questions?
 
@PraveenKumar this comment is a bit over the line stackoverflow.com/questions/36167401/…
 
@gunr2171 Removed. Thanks.
 
afk
 
Rob
12:08 AM
@Fred-ii- I'm not really sure they deliberately rolled it back. If you click edit after 'a change has been made' pops up (but still with the old version on screen), your edit will accidentally rollback the new edit
 
need sleep, bye
 
cya, time for me as well to go to bed.... cya all
 
Sam
cya
 
@gunr2171 that editor also added [atomic-values] to a post. That tag currently has 8 questions in it...
does it make sense?
@Rob exactly. If there's a rollback, the edit summary says so, you can't otherwise edit while rolling back (@Fred-ii-)
in this case, OP must have edited an older version, which overrode Fred's edits
 
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12:20 AM
@Rizier123 I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Rizier123 passed a audit!
 
that was quick:P
 
stackoverflow.com/q/36166600/3933332 Should someone tell him that he should use free hand red circles?
 
mornings
And, yes Riz, pretty please go right away
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Do we actually have a meta or SE.meta post about red circles?
 
well, there's the many memes of meta thing
I've no idea how to word that in a serious but funny way
 
12:27 AM
@WaiHaLee I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier stackoverflow.com/questions/36166600/… tried my best :P
 
@Rizier123 that's pretty good actually. wouldn't have thought about the italic!
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier If I wouldn't make it italic I would guess the new user would get pretty confused. (Maybe I even add that comment to my auto-comments)
 
@Rob I trying to get the source code to you on some stuff
it is an initiatiave
 
> Rizier123, hichris123,
you guys....
 
12:39 AM
Wai Ha Lee passed an audit!
 
Rob
@Drew Alright
 
Wai Ha Lee passed a audit!
 
it is a an improvement of sorts that i am working on. Not like some hiding Rob
 
!!/tea
 
@WaiHaLee brews a cup of darjeeling tea for @WaiHaLee
 
Rob
12:53 AM
What do you mean?
 
@Rob who me?
 
Rob
Yes
 
ok yes. I am readying this source to give to you
 
Wai Ha Lee passed a audit!
 
Rob
Alright
 
1:01 AM
I am the middle of trying to craft this convert of single user to multi and den-normalized and i was in a bitchie mood
 
Wai Ha Lee passed a audit!
 
and then trying to give a web interface
 
Félix Gagnon-Grenier has started reviewing!
 
lol. I thought you were broken @Closey
why u no ping me!!!
 
Rob
Maybe it's broken because of the é
 
1:10 AM
!!/coffee
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier brews coffee for @FélixGagnon-Grenier
 
well, sd isn't...
and I think I'm pretty sure I recall Closey pinging like two days ago
 
@Rizier123 what do you mean?
 
Hammertime
 
@Rob I guess the OP already had their question/code pre-formatted then.
 
1:16 AM
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Sam
@FélixGagnon-Grenier You're only pinged if you're in the room.
 
Well, I thought I was, I'll try to have a... more active chat window next time :p
 
Sam
It could just be a bug though...
 
I'll see tommorrow. Maybe it's closey's way of telling me I should be more consistent [sic] with my reviews
 
Rob
@Pshemo You should use when asking for delete votes (not cv) :)
 
1:26 AM
@Rob Oh, didn't know (I don't visit this room often). In that case github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/SOCVR-RoomInformation/blob/… should be probably updated since currently it states that [cv-pls] should be used when "requests, reopen voting, tag cleanup, burnination efforts, editing, coaching/commenting, delete voting, and feeding the roomba."
 
Rob
Hmm, probably should be. Although delete votes are quite rare here
 
Rob
I suppose it's not a huge issue either way, but all the are filtered here for people to go through and vote later (and may not have delete privs)
 
Thanks for info :)
 
Ian has started reviewing!
 
Sam
1:40 AM
Yeah, it's a bug
 
@Closey membership
 
Sam
Quick, add it to the ever growing issue list!
 
@Closey request permission to review
 
Sam
That's odd
 
@AlexanderO'Mara ok...
 
1:42 AM
closey seems drunk
 
@Closey status
 
Sam
@Clo status
 
T_T
 
Sam
rip
@gunr
 
!!/blame
 
1:43 AM
let me check
 
@Braiam It's Pshemo's fault.
 
who the heck is Pshemo?
 
> Close reason? no need to delete (he just don't want anymore notifications,
that was the last line
 
sounds philosophical... so star it!
 
1:45 AM
Hello everyone! (nagato v2 docker)
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 8dbd64ac on master, running for 26 seconds (tracking latency 1000ms).
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 8dbd64ac on master, running for 27 seconds (tracking latency 1000ms).
 
1:45 AM
and we're back
 
@Closey membership
 
@Braiam Current users in permission groups:
Reviewer
    Adriaan (5211833)
    Alexander O'Mara (3155639)
    Andras Deak (5067311)
    Andrew Cheong (925913)
    Bhargav Rao (4099593)
    bluefeet (426671)
    Brad Larson (19679)
    Drew (1816093)
    Dukeling (1711796)
    durron597 (1768232)
    Félix Gagnon-Grenier (576767)
    Ferrybig (1542723)
    gunr2171 (1043380)
    Ian (5666987)
    JAL (2415822)
    JNat (1328704)
    Jon Clements (1252759)
    Kevin Brown (359284)
    Kevin Guan (5299236)
    Kyll (4174897)
    Linus Kleen (255756)
 
@Closey request permission to reviewer
 
@Braiam I've created request #25 to get you in the Reviewer group.
 
you can also do "my membership" to get a shorter list
 
1:46 AM
The following is a list of users requesting access to a permission group.
 | Request # | Display Name | User Id | Requesting | Requested At            |
 |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 | 25        | Braiam       | 792066  | Reviewer   | 2016-03-23 01:46:08 UTC |
 
@Closey approve request 25
 
@gunr2171 @Braiam has been added to the Reviewer group.
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
there it is
 
sclv has started reviewing!
 
.... or not some day I'll get intelligence level 2
 
Sam
1:51 AM
That guy isn't in the room.
 
@Braiam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
sclv passed a audit!
 
mmm... stackoverflow.com/questions/36154196/… I know the answer but...
 
Undo has started reviewing!
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "off-topic, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [guidelines] [frontend] [opencv]"
c? mm....
 
2:10 AM
Braiam passed a audit!
 
Sam
Meh
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@Sam The next 8 tags are: 36, 29, 26, 26, 23, 23, 22, 22
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 8dbd64ac on master, running for 26 minutes and 26 seconds (tracking latency 9605ms).
@Ian I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
If a question is closed as "missing mcve" and I randomly guessed the correct dupe, should we put the effort into it reopening it and closing it with the dupe?
 
Will it be a useful signpost for someone else? (My guess is it won't without a MCVE, but I haven't seen the question.)
 
2:24 AM
@Rizier123 did it got a mcve?
 
no, it just happened, that I guessed the correct dupe which answered OP's question.
 
sclv passed a audit!
Ian passed an audit!
 
But the answer to the question could also have turned out completely different depending on OP's code.
 
meh, don't waste votes
 
@sclv You've reviewed 60 posts today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 22 minutes and 9 seconds, averaging to a review every 22 seconds.
Ian passed an audit!
 
Sam
2:29 AM
 
@Ian You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 59 minutes and 19 seconds, averaging to a review every 59 seconds.
 
@Closey room effectiveness
 
@sclv 8 members (0% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 188 review items today, which accounts for 33.69% of all CV reviews today.
 
¬_¬
 
Sam
Yeah, I still need to fix that
 
2:38 AM
> Sam's TODO: yeah, if I could do that, that would be great
 
Sam
Well, it's not like I'm doing nothing all day. :p
 
Rob
Is that 33.69% accurate?
That's way higher than I would have expected
 
Sam
The day's just begun...
 
Rob
Depends which day ;)
What timezone is closey in?
 
Sam
UTC ;)
 
Rob
2:44 AM
Ah, makes sense then
Would it make sense to run the stats for the last 24 hours?
I guess it might pick up two sets of reviews, but it would even out over time
 
Sam
Well I originally thought of two variants for the command, one for daily stats, and the other weekly.
It's still a new command, so anything could happen.
 
Rob
2:59 AM
Yeah, weekly would definitely be nice
 
Wasn't there a userid or something you could do so a link would always link to your own user profile?
 
Sam
@Rizier123 This.
 
nice thanks ;)
 
Sam
np
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
user3956566
3:14 AM
@Sam closey is working nicely
 
user3956566
@Closey next 10 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW The next 10 tags are: 36, 29, 26, 26, 23, 23, 22, 22, 22, 21
 
3:36 AM
@Tushar I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Tushar passed a audit!
 
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[editor]"
Taking [netbeans] now
 
3:59 AM
Tushar passed an audit!
 
user3956566
@Ian I think it's an answer
 
Ian
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW OK
 
user3956566
and the answer has a point. You do need to rebuild when updating entities or models
 
user3956566
afk
 
4:41 AM
sd remove- Rollbacked
 
5:08 AM
@rene thanks for the heads up regarding the meta post. I'm reading over it now.
 
user3956566
5:28 AM
where's the script that gets all the unclosed CV requests from the room?
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW chat.stackoverflow.com/…
 
user3956566
@Tushar thanks, there was a script that gave a button next to the chat box here. I can't find it
 
user3956566
But I will use that thanks
 
Thanks to Tiny for awesome scripts
 
user3956566
@Tushar oh thanks! I have this bookmarked github.com/Tiny-Giant/myuserscripts and it didn't have tha
 
5:40 AM
@WaiHaLee I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Ms Yvette ǝʇʇǝʌʎ sW passed a audit!
 
5:52 AM
Wai Ha Lee passed an audit!
 
@Closey room effectiveness
 
@Tushar 10 members (0% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 288 review items today, which accounts for 33.22% of all CV reviews today.
 
Good
 
@WaiHaLee You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 4 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 5 hours, 37 minutes, and 36 seconds, averaging to a review every 5 minutes and 37 seconds.
 
Ian
@Closey total reviews today
 
6:00 AM
@Ian Today, 10 members have reviewed a total of 296 items.
 | User                 | Review Items Today |
 |-------------------------------------------|
 | Wai Ha Lee           | 60                 |
 | Ian                  | 59                 |
 | sclv                 | 53                 |
 | Tushar               | 44                 |
 | Braiam               | 42                 |
 | Ms Yvette ǝʇʇǝʌʎ sW  | 20                 |
 | Félix Gagnon-Grenier | 11                 |
 | Rizier123            | 5                  |
 | Mogsdad              | 1                  |
 
@Ian did you just do your 60th, or is Closey missing one?
 
Ian
@WaiHaLee I think I have one CV left. But I have done 60 CV reviews today.
No, actually I have 2 CV left. :s @Closey are you OK?
@WaiHaLee bug?
 
Huh. Seems odd that the table shows you as having done 59 reviews.
I think Closey only tracks reviews, not CVs: I have 6 CVs left.
 
6:26 AM
An error happened in UserTracking (cc @Sam)
0: The request timed out
----
at SOCVRDotNet.UserDataFetcher.GetLastestCVReviewIDs (System.String fkey, Int32 userID, Int32 reviewCount, System.Action throttler) <0x42177350 + 0x005bf> in <filename unknown>:0
at SOCVRDotNet.User.ScrapeData () <0x42171ab0 + 0x00253> in <filename unknown>:0
An error happened in UserTracking (cc @Sam)
0: The request timed out
----
at SOCVRDotNet.UserDataFetcher.GetLastestCVReviewIDs (System.String fkey, Int32 userID, Int32 reviewCount, System.Action throttler) <0x42177350 + 0x005bf> in <filename unknown>:0
at SOCVRDotNet.User.FetchTodaysReviews (Boolean async) <0x42171050 + 0x0013b> in <filename unknown>:0
 
7:16 AM
@Magisch I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Magisch passed a audit!
Magisch passed a audit!
 
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[c]"
CVQ what are you doin
CVQ stahp
 
Reviewing in re-open queue. Closed as a duplicate, but I don't agree with that - so ought to vote to reopen. But it is also a very basic question, probably duped somewhere, but at best very vague/broad. So it needs to be closed, but the original reason doesn't seem right.
Any advice?
 
Blacklisted guy.
Right.. That's NAA.
 
NAA not spam
unworthy of blacklist imo
 
@Magisch User removed from blacklist (6000409 on stackoverflow.com).
 
7:29 AM
@Magisch I believe it would be better he stays blacklisted.
 
Nah
the blacklist is for cut & dry spammers
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 41 mins ago, by bummi
He already placed several seeds for iseepassword.com
 
@JeffreyBosboom That might be another thing then
Alright then
 
@kdopen I wouldn't bother, it is rather old, it has answers and is accepted. It doesn't do any harm. We better spend our limited close votes on new stuff. Leave Closed would have been my choice.
 
@rene Yeah,went with that thanks
 
7:37 AM
yw
 
Hello
 
@TimCastelijns - Olo
 
And why are they both upvoted
 
@TimCastelijns Goede morgen
 
Mind, do you mind taking a look if this is fishy voting?
 
7:38 AM
Doubt it, they are 6 months apart
 
on it
 
@Magisch - Doesn't look that way
 
I'm being told the spring season has begun, yet I'm still freezing
 
hmk
ok
thanks for taking a look though
 
7:40 AM
@Magisch some new users use the up vote as I have this also/fixed this that way
 
@PraveenKumar "ears are paining". Lol :)
 
someoen with magic dupe hammer closed it
 
@Gimby :D
 
@rene But the answer makes literally no sense
"

i fix this problem by pressing firmly the shield to the board
"
what is that supposed to solve
 
You have never worked with hardware?
 
7:42 AM
@Tim
 
I have, but OP is describing an I/O or code issue
not a "I installed this incorrectly"
 
The one may be the cause of the other
 
Yep, was just thinking that. @Magisch and those are exactly the kind of problems a dry joint can cause
 
mhm
 
@Magisch you might be wondering, but in real life I sometimes run into people that make no sense as well. Some of those are in the government...
 
7:44 AM
@rene the rest are usually our bosses
 
Tremble and despair for the real world is full of actual developers with so little skill that they ask trash questions on stackoverflow <_<
 
@kdopen I didn't want to insult your boss ... yet
 
@kdopen you wanted to talk?
 
@Magisch yes, they are the ones that will upload their stuff in the future in the Airbus 380 you're about to board...
 
@TimCastelijns sorry hit enter after your name and it just sent it instead of completing. Was meaning to tag "I was just thinking that" :)
 
7:47 AM
Can edit your last message with the up arrow
 
thanks
 
Note that if you edit a msg with an @name the guy will be pinged twice
 
Magisch passed a audit!
 
@AlexanderDerck what is the answer then? Can't imagine there is another dupe for that issue.
 
@Magisch You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 35 minutes and 30 seconds, averaging to a review every 35 seconds.
 
7:53 AM
That cv-pls (re calendar) now has an answer which is just a "me too" comment. Downvoted both, but needs another close vote
also flagged the answer
 
Good morning!
 
@kdopen The NAA answer had 2 upvotes when I discovered this post. :/
 
@kdopen try to hold back a bit on if you down voted. It might be seen by outsiders of this room as an invite to follow suit. We have had incidents about that before and everybody here has enough experience to know if extra votes are needed.
 
ok
 
7:57 AM
The 2 upvotes on the obvious NAA and the two upvotes on the obviously tool req does make it look like a voting ring
like, the answer is a textbook definition of NAA and somehow it got upvoted
 
God morning
 
ola
 
either that or the and is a cesspool severely lacking in judgement
 
@Magisch the latter is true, unfortunately; and in this case, the former might be also true
 
should we raise a modflag
this looks extremely fishy
 
8:00 AM
@rene did you see the beautiful user script of Gothdo, you should consider to host on SOCVR user script... (it maybe some what on the limit, but it permits to feed closey, while reviewing old cvs-pls)
@kdopen Hi, just want to say Hi! (since it the first time I see you)
 
I flagged the NAA for mod attention
 
@PetterFriberg Hi back. I usually hang out over on Open Source. Just came here to get clarification on a re-open review
 
it looks like a setup for a voting ring
 
@Magisch Already out of votes : ), the day has just started....
 
If a developer is stuck on a issue then this is the place for him to raise his issue . Now i have my answer and i was going to post it so please open my ques. If u all are such brilliant dev. then y not answer it :@ — Mr. bean 1 min ago
He's not getting it
 
8:05 AM
@rene feeding we also close vote old (off-topic) question with no new activity?
 
@rene His class wasn't declared public which violates EF rules
 
What should I do about that op: stackoverflow.com/questions/36171410/…
 
Hi all o/
 
just back off?
 
Hi \o
@Magisch Nothing move on : )
a couple of days and roomba
 
8:17 AM
Plop!
 
Plop!
 
Seeing the question linked by @Magisch I think SO really lacks something where it is allowed to ask for libraries etc
Is there another SE site for that maybe?
 
Software Recommendations. They have pretty strict guidelines, but I have successfully referred a user there after their question was closed.
 
@AlexanderDerck you could also phrase the question better (according to the CV message) and get help which points to a certain library
So not "What's the best library to do this?", but "I have this problem, how can I solve it?"
 
@Adriaan I agree the question is pretty bad
 
8:21 AM
 
Plus, phrased that way, the answer might tell you how to use the library, rather than just linking you to one and expecting you to figure it out.
 
Hiya o/
 
Plop!
 
Hiya
 
8:25 AM
@AlexanderDerck Idk
Library recs are not very good QA tho
and because they're not, they're not allowed on so anymore
 
Slow day today, 25 flags only :/ .... Will go and watch a film. Afk.
 
Which film?
 
@Tunaki \o
 
@kayess o/
 
@Tunaki DOn't ask ; )
Hi kayess.
 
8:35 AM
Hey Petter
 
@Tunaki o/
 
@Magisch \o
 
@Tunaki Did you try Gothdo user script?
 
I didn't.
 
It's nice you see on any question/answer directly if its in any que...
also reopen que etc.
 
8:39 AM
Hey @Tunaki
 
@PetterFriberg ys
 
y'all cleared out the yesterday
 
almost better then yours ; ), you don't need to push timeline
 
so today I was struggling to find C CVs
 
@PetterFriberg No, I didn't. Linky/screenshot?
 
8:40 AM
Regarding finding in-progress review tasks from the timeline, Shog seems to suggest removing that feature: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/275795/…
 
@AlexanderDerck Ah, OK
 
@JeffreyBosboom Huh. Nice to know.
 
preparing some screen shots : )
 
@JeffreyBosboom I have a userscript that finds the review. I think his analysis that it is more useful after the review is finished is probably true, although on slow queues it might become handy if a meta question popsup about a post.
 
8:49 AM
Hitting NATO @Floern he? :)
 
@rene and @Tuna the users script: i.stack.imgur.com/I0nl7.gif
 
Ah, adds a link to the post for review, cool
 
@Tunaki ah yes, and now I understand what "NATO" stands for ;)
 
@rene What is also nice is that you directly understand if a question or answer is in a que.... no need for timeline
 
@Gothdo You deserve so many waffles for that script
3
 
8:53 AM
> Oops! Something Bad Happened!
 
I answered a question yesterday, answer's accepted, but this comment just chimed in, basically asking a new question (to which I do not know the answer).
 
@Adriaan Tell OP to put that in a new question
 
with more explanation of course ;)
 
Ninja'd by Magisch..
 
Im the shadow in the night
 
8:59 AM
@Magisch done.
 

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