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4:01 PM
@li223 I see, thanks. I would also be competing with non-EU workers instead of against EU and German workers as is the case now.
@Wietlol Thanks.
Gasps :0, they know my secret identity. I just noticed, discord is showing a different name to what I have on stack overflow chat
 
I suppose Captain Obvious does all the hard work tho :D
although... me writing C#... I suppose I am also working quite hard
 
4:18 PM
Hey @Hans1984 @Squirrelkiller , I hope things are great over where you are in Germany. I'm considering whether it's best to move to Germany and find work there before brexit?
@Hans1984 @Squirrelkiller Do you know any websites I can use to search for entry level C# jobs in Germany? If there's anything else I need to know about working in Germany as an entry level dev please let me know.
 
I mean. Indeed?
 
@li223 Thanks I'll try that now.
 
@BlackPanther Generally great for devs. I get at least one recruiter per week trying to recruit me. They were even pretty fast with updating their messages to something that relates to Corona time!
 
And see what I get
 
Personally I dont trust too much in those websites that specifically targeted at people who want to work abroad they feel like they'd abuse the shit outta you
 
4:24 PM
@BlackPanther Xing is big for devs in germany. I recommend learning german though, although people will of course talk to you in english.
Xing isn't specifically for people wanting to work abroad, but basically linkedin but from germany.
 
@li223 Sounds like white collar human trafficking
 
I imagine interviews would be conducted in German. Can't imagine companies wanting to make exceptions. Not to mention most of the job posts are also in German
 
@Squirrelkiller We all learn German in UK high schools :). I would be happy to pick it up again.
 
You say that. I did French all my school life it was horrible. I really wanted to do German in Years 7 & 8.
to this day I can say I know more German than I do French. :JUSTLOL:
 
I have to ask, does Germany hate or dislike Microsoft in any way? I remember watching a video of Bill Gates getting pied in Germany.
@Squirrelkiller I'll see if they're recruiting thanks
 
4:30 PM
Nah, same as any country I believe, just some people hating and screaming the loudest,
 
@li223 I hope not because otherwise I would need a translator lol.
 
I know a large portion of Germans speak English to a fluent level but it's still a good idea to know German if you intend on living and working there.
 
@li223 You are exactly the same as me :D. I did French in primary school and up to year 9 in highschool yet I know more German than French even though I only learned German in years 8 and 9 I think.
 
Plus as I said before, job posts are typically posted in German, so I image the interview would be as well.
 
Interviews may also be conducted in english. In general, it all depends on what you need for the job: We make software for insurance stuff. If you don't speak german very well you're gonna be hella confused here, so you need to be able to understand these things.
There are enough companies doing other stuff, and in my experience your skills are what matters most, so if you can't speak german very well but have the skills required for the job, in a field where you don't need much german to understand what you're building, you might as well land a job without great german skills.
 
4:41 PM
So happy to be back on the C# stack overflow chatroom, I missed it.
@Squirrelkiller Thanks. That's reassuring.
@Squirrelkiller Xing have 9 job openings and most of them are for seniors, not one junior position is open. That must be expensive.
 
Put all your skills into it and set your status to looking-for-jobs
 
Personally, I dont think you should limit yourself to just junior jobs. There could be a company that's advertising a mid-level job that might take you on as a trainee
/ junior dev
So yes junior dev but you might be in a slightly better place. Maybe I've just had bad experience but roles adverting as junior level are usually just cop-outs to pay you less.
Not saying all are I've just seen a few which come across as such
 
Also if you put your skills there, and a recruiter tells you they want you for senior dev, go for it! I don't know about other countries, but recruiters here get teh most money for people that stay longer at the company.
 
@Squirrelkiller I don't think there is an option for that: new-work.se/en/career/vacancies?category=241
 
4:51 PM
@li223 You're right thanks.
 
That's their companies website, like, their own company.
I meant this one: xing.com
They're a recruitment portal
You find jobs for many german and several international companies there.
e.g. a dutch company that also has an office in germany. That interview was really interesting, as the team was speaking in english/dutch/german like...interchangably. Dude called someone else and switched to dutch, then asked the interviewer (IT manager) a question in english, then afterwards talked to the team in german. That would have been a nice job in that regard lol.
 
Dutch is just drunk German
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Agreed
 
but that also sounds pretty wild lmao
 
5:33 PM
but... germany is the country of beer
 
it's pretty convenient isn't it? drink 5 beers and speak another language ;)
 
[Li] <:WesmartNGNL:585606431349145639>
 
@Squirrelkiller Thanks. I've created a XING account. It's very well designed. It would be nice if you could filter jobs like language
@Wietlol but Heineken is Dutch, so the Dutch do know how to make great beer
How come I've never heard of Xing before. It's a great web app.
@li223 What is Danish then lol?
 
G K
5:56 PM
Hi all
Need small help with Rhino Mocks. Facing some issue.
 
[Li] Idk man do I look like I know Danish
[Li] German with words cut apart and ditched back together
[Li] Stitched*
 
@li223 arent' all germans drunk german?
 
G K
6:16 PM
Using Rhino mocks for one of the mocked object's property (get only) I am returning expected value.
So when I execute my test method, I am able to get the value that I am mocking.
But when my test method executes next line the value that I have returning from mock object is chaging to default value (in this case it is changing to 0 as my property is an integer).

The important point here is the property that I am setting using mock object is an out parameter.

Here is sample code of that,

https://gist.github.com/Ganeshcse/095c3fa5bb6ccaee22198beab1062557
I don't understand such behavior before that after first line of execution the value of the object are restetting to new instance.
Can anyone help me with this isse?
 
 
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7:18 PM
@Squirrelkiller is paying extra for the ProJobs feature on xing worth it?
 
7:30 PM
@mr5 Haha, just seeing this picture of inbound and outbound planes. Where did you find it?
 
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