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1:01 PM
"Time always goes forwards."
who could have thought
 
@CupOfJava Did you read the headline? It's a falsehood.
 
mr5
@CupOfJava nope. iOS wouldn't allow it. Android perhaps
 
does maps run in the background of IOS?
 
anyone ever feel this sudden squeezing somewhere on the left side of their gut??
 
1:05 PM
like it comes and stays there for like 2 seconds
 
no
but its not like I dont have a million health problems
but at least not that one
 
it may be some t1d complication I'm not aware of x-x
 
mr5
@CupOfJava nope
 
wait, so it does on Android but not iOS??
 
shhhhh, I'm reading the doc
don't ruin the ending
 
mr5
1:08 PM
what do u mean al?
 
you can exit out of the maps android app and it'll still show a floating minimap
 
mr5
Picture-in-Picture?
 
@CupOfJava Just assume that nothing runs in the background on iOS. That's most accurate.
 
mr5
It only happens when you're in navigation mode
 
mr5
1:10 PM
otherwise, Google Maps will be closed as soon as you press back
 
@CupOfJava Read it carefully. It is true. That entire doc is telling you what you should do when the UI enters the background (save your state) and how to restore it when it comes back. It does not run in the background.
Only "Respond to Important Events in the Background" includes exceptions.
 
mr5
@CupOfJava your original question was specifically asking if maps run in the background of iOS
 
mr5 that was to Roel
 
mr5
If your app is targeted to a specific functionality which are reasonably suited to run in the background, they'd be allowed to run continuously in the background (e.g.: music app, app tied to IoT, etc...)
 
Do note that you CANNOT fake such permissions on iOS. Going "Eh I need time because I play audio" and you don't actually play audio, you're going to get kicked off the Apple developer program.
 
mr5
1:13 PM
oh sorry
 
@BlackSquirrel I would hope that they also explain each statement
 
They are VERY strict. Be mindful of what you do. Be as honest as you humanely can be.
 
step1: buy an android; step2: learn Java; step3: profit
 
whoa I can't follow the chat
 
@Wietlol Mr Skeet explains some of them in entertaining style: youtube.com/watch?v=saeKBuPewcU
 
1:17 PM
It depends on what it is you want to do. I develop for both iOS and Android. You have to be very mindful of the restrictions on iOS. There are many. But everything they say works, will work, always. That said... Android with its different versions and vendors is literally support hell.
 
ooh, this better be good
 
do ya use Xamarin?
 
Yes, Xamarin+Web.
 
I just finished reading skeet's book, it wasn't great.
a little bit all over the place
 
is this thumbnail any indication?
 
1:20 PM
I havent read any book in a decade
 
don't tell people that
 
what?
 
I'm just messing with you.
 
no don't tell people that
 
you want me to not tell people that I havent read any book in a decade?
 
1:22 PM
you pissed me off
 
Reading programming books is pointless most of the time, but, books in general are good for your mind. Do read. Do.
 
reeeee
@Wietlol read my book when it comes out
 
I cant read tho
at least... not 2 pages
if your book is less than 2 pages, I will read it
 
I wrote a book less then 2 pages
here i'll copy and paste
 
(pages must be in A4 size with a font size of at least 11 in Arial or Trebuchet MS)
 
1:23 PM
"read more"
 
Please don't.
 
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeead
 
caaaaaaannnnnttttt
(dont say that out loud)
 
lucky for you, my serial is gonna go live on my website within about a month, so you'll be able to read soon B-)
 
1:26 PM
the irony of a learn to read book makes my day
 
@AlRey Are you writing and releasing chapter-by-chapter ala light novel style?
 
Going full My Immortal on us
 
last year I read few books which reminds me that I need to read some this year too... 2020 off to a lazy start
 
yeah reading is good
I recently started reading again, about half a year ago
now I read every day
 
@AlRey how long have you been busy with your book?
 
1:29 PM
@RoelvanUden basically yeah
 
I read code every day
 
though what I'm releasing on the website is not what I'm gonna publish
it's a different story in the same world
 
@CaptainObvious clap clap clap
@AlRey So you're writing two concurrent stories
 
@Wietlol I conceptualized and wrote the very first draft of it in 2012, started to reinvent it a bit in 2017, but didn't actually get things down on paper for this new version until last September
I've been working on this serial since mid-October
 
@AlRey plug the website (if it's safe)
 
1:30 PM
but I also had something else I was doing
@RoelvanUden not exactly; I'm working on the serial for now -- and then once it's done, I'll move on to the novel
@CupOfJava weellllllll here it is autorisedomain.wordpress.com
you can't see it yet, though, cause it's not done
I'm wanting to slash that ".wordpress" out of the URL before it goes live
 
I can still bookmark the site
 
I was writing a light-novel style thing at some point too... I quit though, the time it consumes was too massive.
 
aw thanks :)
 
mr5
> Days begin in the morning.
It doesn't?
 
yea reason why it's taken me til now to write this story is cause I was 15 when I first conceptualized it and have only recently finished college
and a lot of my summer was spent getting back in the groove of things
 
mr5
1:33 PM
In Europe, why do people can already start to work even they are at college?
 
Took me about 8-10 hours per chapter of, what, 4 pages? Writing in a good consistent is mind mindbogglingly difficult to me.
 
Three hundred years after the rise of information technology, the United States has shattered, its democratic government overthrown by Autorise Ltd. — now the Autorise Domain. Torn apart under the new AI-driven regime, the nation and its people are faced with an ultimatum: integrate with the Domain or go rogue. Those who abandon the Domain are forced to live off the western lands; those who integrate are bound to life among the Domain’s artificial life forms — including the etternel: androids designed and programmed to resemble humans while serving the Autorise Domain.
 
@mr5 Because we have loads of time on our hands.
 
SO: (see full text)
me: no
 
Because people are poor and need to find their time outsde of college (and sometimes inside too)
 
mr5
1:34 PM
@RoelvanUden you can start to work at an age 16?
 
Yeah you can here at least
 
@mr5 Even sooner than that.
15 is minimum here.
 
I recently finished a crossover/collab project with a friend that ended up being 67k words
 
mr5
I don't even know I need to work when I was in college. My brain only developed when I was 25 yrs old =P
 
In the uk the minimum for a real job is 16
I started working when I was 17
 
mr5
1:35 PM
So basically, I only started to think 1+ years ago
 
@mr5 Life was fine and then you realized you have to work in this world :(
 
mr5
Oh very lucky.
I wish I am that bright when I was younger
 
@AlRey Judging from what you shared thus far, you're very worldbuilding-centric, aren't you?
 
on the contrary...I've spent more time with the characters
 
mr5
He's the Way of chat.so
 
1:36 PM
I usually don't like worldbuilding
 
Aha, that's just what I saw so far :-P
 
@Hans1984 I work contract and I love it. Different company every couple of months.
 
mr5
Way was once a singer and turned to being a very good writer
 
once I started getting serious, I had a lot of notes to write down to make the characters fit into this world...sort of a backwards development style where it almost sems lik the world revolves around them
where is Way from?
 
mr5
US?
 
1:38 PM
@mr5 no I mean is he not from chat.so?
 
@AlRey That's what I did, too. I had characters in mind, set a general path, and tossed them into a world that I gradually developed. :-)
 
@CupOfJava sounds good.I think i will do something similar in the future
 
here's he synopsis of the novel
A civil war for independence from the Autorise Domain is about to begin. A massive cybersecurity attack ruptures the Domain as it scrambles to deploy its super-advanced etternel droids across all its cities. But before the Domain can reestablish its broken databases, one of their droids is infected with the misajour virus: a faulty program designed for performance enhancement — but left unchecked, will override the etternel’s normal logic beyond the intended capacity. Among the effects of the virus are improved strength, greater cognizance, and a quality otherwise unbeknown to AI: pathos.
 
since i didnt stay long at my last few jobs
 
mr5
@AlRey can we have a tl;dr pls
 
1:40 PM
or summary whatever lol
 
I dont like to commit to any company long terms
or any person
 
mr5
what is your longest stay in a company?
 
18months
 
I served 6ys for my company already
 
mr5
do you think this would affect your future employment?
whoa
 
1:41 PM
I've been with my emplyer for over 4 years, and was with my ex girldfriend for nearly 3
 
tl;dr - The daughter of a horny programmer and her band of misfits take down an empire with their malware-infected computer.
 
@mr5 probably
 
@Hans1984 it's the way to go. I don't have to worry about getting fired, I just have to worry about getting rehired.
 
but it doesnt matter
 
@AlRey That was a terrible tldr
 
1:41 PM
xDDD
 
you only have one life so you have to do it the way it works for YOU
 
mr5
@AlRey ohhhh
it seems interesting to read now
quick. make a manga out of it
 
thanks I'm glad you're intrigued ;)
 
@CupOfJava good point
 
mr5
or better yet, anime =P
 
1:42 PM
I wanted to make a comic of it at one point
 
My longest stay ~ 2 years
 
and my style is manga-influenced :P
 
i know this is supposed to be a place for c but is anyone wiling to help me with some css rq?
 
mostly cause my favorite artist is Tadashi Hiramatsu
 
mr5
1:43 PM
Ha. Mine's going to be 3yrs+ (I'm still in contract)
 
Total work experiences ~ 4 years
 
i need the bottom images to line up horizontally
 
are they not on the same table as the text?
 
So technically I'm a junior lol
 
@DKDhilip nope makes you a mid
 
1:44 PM
@AlRey Eh.. he didn't write manga, did he?
 
@SamuelWakeman float left
 
mr5
@DKDhilip why? Is being a senior measured by experience?
 
@CupOfJava in the large dive or each individual div?
 
wait is floating still standard practice?
 
People usually states 5 years for senior pos
 
1:45 PM
it wasn't mentioned in my class
 
usually not always
 
mr5
@DKDhilip or it varies per company?
In our company, you can be a senior as long as you're fit with the criteria.
 
@RoelvanUden no, but I still like his art style quite a lot :P
 
mr5
@CupOfJava do you want to float?
 
If I join a company then I want senior architect or equivalent
 
1:47 PM
@mr5 you can float too
 
mr5
can you be a senior on a new company even you're not on a previous company?
 
Yes or no, maybe?
 
you shouldnt use float
 
Junior, Medior and Senior titles are pretty much meaningless.
 
1:48 PM
instead, try to use double
 
doesn't float ruin the flow of the page?
 
mr5
 
i believe float might
 
today I learned AOL used to make online multiplayer games for the Commodore 64
 
hey float...
wann a kid?
 
mr5
1:49 PM
I mean, can you demand a senior position upon applying?
 
If they mention those then...
Junior = You'll be doing the shit jobs and checked constantly.
Medior = You'll be doing the thing we thought out and try to limit thinking.
Senior = Congrats, you can now function as a normal software developer.
 
Title do affect salary lol
 
mr5
@RoelvanUden eh salary?
 
@mr5 there's nothing stopping you
 
1:50 PM
@mr5 Salary isn't directly related to your title, it's related to your negotiation skills.
 
@RoelvanUden ironically, one of our "seniors" hands out research and design tasks to "juniors" so he can handle some maintenance issues
 
mr5
Me: Not even a senior. Demands lead position.
New company: ...
Me: ...
 
But my actual skills don't depend on my work experience
 
@mr5 Senior != Lead
It can be, but not always.
@Wietlol Cool. Glad it's not universal.
 
You can't measure my skill level by years
 
mr5
1:51 PM
I want to be a lead and the architect someday. Cuz I want to stop spreading of spaghetti codes in our codebase
 
on my last internship, the lead dev was a junior dev
 
mr5
I would review every commit as much as I can
 
^ Years experience isn't related to your competence.
 
also, he was the only dev... except for the 5 interns
 
mr5
lol
Is this an inside joke from Apple's Xcode?
 
1:52 PM
he graduaded the year before that
 
if you can get the job done right then people will hire you
 
so, I think we can all say he is a junior
 
Trust me, you can't stop spaghetti code
 
Trust me, you can't trust me.
 
lol
 
mr5
1:54 PM
Can be as long as your team is continuously refactoring the code base
 
I dont think refactoring really reduces spaghetti code
 
mr5
we don't have static variables, no global constants for the last 8 months
 
redesigns do
 
In reality, you have no choice but to allow spaghetti code
 
mr5
I think I have successfully managed to filter out spaghetti codes
 
1:56 PM
I got until Friday to ship, so peace out
 
a well made design shouldnt have any spaghetti in it
and most of us can achieve that
 
Especially a large project that span many teams
 
but as soon as there is change in requirements, then it all goes to shit
 
I started getting flooded by recruiters as soon as I hit 3 years
 
mr5
as long as you don't sweat your palms, knees weak, you won't have spaghetti
 
1:56 PM
either you make it into the design without spaghetti, or you make a new design
 
mr5
Well, we have a founding design which is MVVM and Prism
 
You can achieve that with competent devs, not interns
 
mr5
and that prevents us from creating disastrous spaghetti monsters
fun fact: if you google "mom spaghetti lyrics" you wouldn't find spaghetti
at least, no spaghetti image
 
Flying spaghetti monster
 
mr5
 
1:59 PM
ok... either I dont understand how python works, or this example is shit
 

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