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2:08 PM
so we not gonna talk about the Xbox SeX?
 
Is that for real?
 
yeah; it's the One's successor
the name is horrible, though: Xbox Series X
 
Could they have made it any more horrible?
 
it's coming out with Hellblade II -- which looks insane
they could have called it the Wii U
 
Honestly, that is the most ugly console I've ever seen :D
 
2:10 PM
how's it ugly? it's mostly plain lol
and it's actually a box this time
 
Where am I going to put that in the living room? It's always gonna stick out like a sore weird cubicle thingy.
 
well you can put it on its side
it looks huge, but then you put it next to the controller and consider the fact that the disc tray takes up only half the height and....yeah, it's actually not that big
 
So now there'll be another line with One XBox Series X and One XBox Series X Box?
are they trying to be confusing with the names?
 
this is the same company that skipped from 8 to 10; of course they're trying to be confusing
 
touché
 
2:21 PM
One Xbox Series X
One Xbox Series X Box
I've noticed recently that ms seems to have an obsession with the letter X
 
watch them make the next console like the "YBox" and throw everybody for a loop
 
I'll wait for the PS5
 
on top of updating all their Office files in 2007 to have an additional x at the end (.doc to .docx), they also have DirectX, all the "X" versions of the Xbox, ActiveX, Surface Pro X, and probably a bunch more I can't think of
I'm just as interested in both consoles, though that Godfall ps5 game that got revealed last night did not impress me
 
@RoelvanUden I'll wait for the.. oh right, I don't have to wait because I use PC.. ◕‿◕
 
So we've gone from X Bone to X Box SeX. I'm sensing a theme here.
 
2:30 PM
@Neil PC is nice too.
 
I joke of course. There are plenty of games that you can't play on PC
PC is a far more economical choice, and that's partially why I've never committed to a console
 
emulation when
 
@Neil I very much disagree on that, unless you play/buy a whole lot of games. If you only buy and play a few games a year, consoles are far, far cheaper.
 
PCs are more economical cause you can do your work on them ;D
 
there's, you know, the actual console to buy
 
2:34 PM
You can do your work without a powerful and expensive GPU.
 
plus console games are more expensive in general
 
I am an arteest, fool!
 
I can connect controllers to my pc tho... only stuff like the wii, nintendo ds, kinect, etc fall out of the PC masterrace world
 
wait until people find a way to use VR mocap devices on wii emulation software
 
I bought a PS4 for 200eu, each game is around 20-30eu. I buy around 3-4 games a year, after prices come down. After 4 years or so (got into it late) I spent around ~600eu over the years. I'd be hard pressed to buy a minimal viable PC that can run the game that I've been playing for that price. Let alone buying the actual games. So, economics: it depends very much on your behavior.
If I had to upgrade my PC at any given point, I'd spent more on just the GPU and minor upgrades than the total I have spent on the machine + games. CPUs haven't really gotten all that much better over the last ~6 years for office work, so I saved a lot on not upgrading there. :-P
 
2:39 PM
well I haven't spent 600 euros over the years unless include the cost of my computer, but you've got that as well
I had to upgrade my GPU once, and that ran me about 180 euros
call that "the console" I suppose
 
Yeah. Pretty much, if all your other hardware is sufficient, that's the cost for the console.
 
my pc is also going on 8 years or so
 
just incremental upgrades over 8 years? @neil
 
@AlRey I wouldn't say incremental upgrades, they were mainly two: RAM and GPU
 
those are pretty much the only things I've upgraded on my build xD
that and I also put in a DVD burner; pretty soon I'm wanting to add a water cooler, tho
 
2:46 PM
wow, that's an old pc if you added a DVD burner :)
 
I still like PC gaming. It's just insanely expensive, IN MY OPINION, because of all the goddamn bitcoin miner bullshittery that has been going on
 
@RoelvanUden yeah, fuck those guys. they're ruining it for the rest of us
 
I still like PC gaming... but my favorite game genre is a bit ded
I want a newer version of the first SupCom, basically
 
@Wietlol what genre would you call it?
 
RTS
 
2:48 PM
lol I'm the only one around here who still likes having discs on my PC
 
@Neil Yep. I was playing Planet Rollercoaster and it's fun, but I badly a new GPU.. the prices for that.. does not warrant it for one or two games
@AlRey I like discs for consoles so you can buy/sell second-hand, otherwise, meh.
 
lately, though, I've been having a helluva time getting VLC to properly rip video
 
@RoelvanUden if you go for medium range, the prices are reasonable
beyond that, the prices really start to take off
 
@Neil Hmm, looks like 200-300 euro for something midrange.
300-400 for something above that. And then insanity.
 
I went looking for "best bang for your buck" budget graphics cards when I started looking for mine :)
it does perform quite well, although it tends to get hot quickly
though can't say I mind it with the winter cold seeping into the house
 
2:52 PM
I will probably not switch back to PC. Pricing is one thing, convenience is another. I don't know what it is... I'm dealing with tech problems all day, when I get home, tech should just fucking work. So often do I experience issues with drivers, graphical tweaking for performance, and other bullshit. I just... don't want to do that anymore.
Still. I like Age of Empires II on PC very much :D
 
Do I need to remind you of the hassle of the first Xbox consoles?
many would just suddenly and inexplicably stop working
in those cases, is there some sort of guarantee?
 
I never had that one :-)
 
I understand playstation is a lot better in this regard
 
I remember that happening to the chrome-tray Xbox 360, but not the original..
 
I think so. The blabla ring of death? You could just swap them.
 
2:54 PM
also nintendo makes reliable consoles
 
MS did a good job for it being their first real piece of hardware outside of peripherals
 
I've had XBox 360, PS3, and PS4. XBox was cancerous. PS3 and PS4 are fine.
 
the XBox was basically a computer in a box
it shared a lot of computer components
I don't know if that's changed, probably not that much
 
lol no now that's even moreso the case :P
 
Argh
I fkn hate excel
 
user10864482
3:00 PM
@Squirrelintraining why? it's the best database /s
 
Obviously
And the best mapping tool
 
@human I think /dev/null is the best database, it is super fast
 
user10864482
@Wietlol yea; zero latency
 
Excel ftw
Best calculator ever
 
user10864482
Microsoft ftw
 
3:03 PM
and it is web scale
 
Infinityscroll!
 
Frig you killerino
BUt you are right in soem aspeckt qeirdly
 
I love you too <3
 
@Wietlol fastest backup copy ever
 
user10864482
quick question; on IE11 there are domain less domain. Does it mean the cookie is 'domain-less' and only will match whatever site structure have like '/abc/' ?
 
3:08 PM
what do you mean by domainless domains?
is that a thing?
 
how about serverless servers?
 
carless car?
 
user10864482
example
SID=DQAAAK…Eaem_vYg; Path=/accounts; Expires=Wed, 13 Jan 2021 22:23:01 GMT; Secure; HttpOnly
 
careless care?
 
context plz
 
user10864482
3:09 PM
the path is /accounts not example.com/accounts
 
Maybe it's a relative path
 
user10864482
but the Domain is not specified
 
44
Q: Cookies with and without the Domain Specified (browser inconsistency)

PhillI've noticed that there are some real inconsistencies between browsers in terms of cookies. This is going to be rather long so bear with me. Note: I've setup a domain in my host file called "testdomain.com", this bug WONT work when using "localhost". Note2: I am curious to know how this works ...

Domain is optional
Resistence is futile
 
user10864482
darn; that's how you do cross domain cookie . Thanks Microsoft
 
user10864482
thx for the link. It make me love Microsoft even more /s
 
3:25 PM
this has nothing to do with anything, but do you guys feel like helping to motivate other people also helps you motivate yourself?
 
Yep, it kind of works for me too
 
I'm starting to realize that a lot of the things I say to people about why their motivation is so poor is also stuff I struggle with. So it becomes this weird loop where I'm like "wait a minute...all I have to do is practice what I preach"
 
Usually, you are able to recognize people's issues when you have the issue yourself.
 
yep..
I used to be very self-motivated in my youth, but that was broken down when kids sent actual death threats my way...then built back up when I started motivating others
 
There is a thing about energy, that said every vibe you send to someone, you get vibes x 2 for you.
 
Jay
3:31 PM
@Neil along with every other console ever made, they all have motherboards, ram, cpu's, video cards, audio cards and hard drives
 
@Jay yes, they're all electronics. That's not what I meant exactly
 
Jay
because Microsoft made one doesn't make it more or less of a "PC"
but speaking of Xbox, they showed the new one at the Game Awards last night
Xbox Series X is the name
 
yea we were talking about that earlier
the name is a disgrace
 
@Jay I said nothing of the fact that it was because it was microsoft that it was made like a pc
I just said that many components produced for PCs were put to use in the xbox. Generally you subcontract components to be made for your console, and not the other way around
 
Jay
I'm saying they all share components with PC's
not just Xbox
 
3:44 PM
I'm saying "o look, a birb"
 
no, they don't. pretty sure the original nintendo didn't have components you could yank out and put in a PC
they were components made for nintendo
 
Jay
yes, motherboards, ram, cpu's, video cards, audio cards and hard drives
 
ok, again, yes they're all "electronics"
not sure if you're not understanding the subtleties or you're just being pedantic
 
Jay
no I get it, you're a fanboy
 
grabs popcorn
 
3:47 PM
I don't have a console. Check above to check if I'm lying. And now I have my answer, thx
 
Jay
haha
 
modern consoles (specifically the xbox) are basically mini computers tho
I seem to remember there being a convention where they had the "new xbox"
which was basically just an xbox emulated on a pc that was locked in a cupboard
 
Jay
understanding the components of computers isn't obscure knowledge
 
@Neil I mean, at the tiem the original nintendo came out, parts weren't so...far evolved. Even pc parts were specially made for PCs.
 
Jack, kieranspelling
 
3:53 PM
Nov 11 at 10:45, by Captain Squirrel
@CaptainObvious ....ok boomber
 
Jay
If anyone can explain why it's "specifically the xbox" and not other consoles with any amount of details to back it up, I'll be impressed
speaking components, what's different about the Xbox as compared to, say, the Playstation?
 
Nothing significant
 
Jay
exactly
crickets
 
i love cricket
 
there hasn't been any significant difference between those two consoles since the 7th generation
 
3:57 PM
i cant wait for the south africa test
 
and really the only reason there was any difference is cause Ken Kutaragi lost his mind and wanted to make a supercomputer out of the ps3
 
4:09 PM
@Harry ok boomber
 
JACK, KIERANISACUNT
 
....Come Again?
 
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
I'll ban you i swer 2 gud
 
no u wont
 
4:11 PM
Jack, ban 8971578
 
Added Harry to ban list
 
get rekt nerd
 
Jay
haha
 
wha
Jack, kieranspelling
thats not a good ux
 
Jack, commands
 
4:13 PM
I know the following commands: commands, learn, tell, echo, save, info, forget, ban, unban, c#, kieran, panini, lenny, shrug, KieranSpelling, funfriday, kieran2, Treason, Treason2, treason3, WhyIsCapGone, nyan, slänt, trap, mcve, whoDaBest?, nutz, java, Wietlol, elephant, tumbleweed, wietlol2, >freerey, WhyIsHansBanned, Hans, italwaysworks, wietbot, hayzoos, haha, black, meow, TheRumIsGone, status, why, fine, PayRespects, sandbox-link, roll, omegalenny
 
how am i meant to know if im banned if it wont tell me
 
Jack, tell Harry haha
 
Jack, unban 8971578
worth a try
 
Jack, italwaysworks
 
4:14 PM
Nov 28 at 7:44, by Héctor Álvarez
Well, it works as long as you write it correctly
 
kieran unban pls
 
I've learned the command weeb
 
Jack, weeb
 
Sep 10 at 11:25, by J. Doe
GTFO weeb to your trash can
 
4:15 PM
I don't think Jack notices edits
Cap did though
Oh J.Doe, you so crazy
 
Sep 10 at 11:24, by AlRey
Haruhara Haruko here -- age 19, splendiferous housekeeper at Takkun's house!
 
Jack, unban 8971578
 
Jack, learn countdown He Will Return
 
I've learned the command countdown
Removed Harry from ban list
 
Jack, countdown
 
4:17 PM
@Harry its supposed to tell you that your banned
 
<a href="https://www.timeanddate.com//party?iso=20201103T12&p0=%3A&msg=J.Doe%27s+Unban+Timer%21&font=cursive&csz=1" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">He Will Return</a>
 
clearly that's broken
 
Jack, forget countdown
 
Command countdown has been forgotten
 
Jack, learn countdown [He Will Return](timeanddate.com/countdown/…)
 
4:17 PM
I've learned the command countdown
 
Jack, countdown
 
Hrm.
 
sec
I'll fix that for you
 
@CaptainSquirrel thank x
 
4:19 PM
i'm offline
Jack, countdown
@MikeTheLiar is fix
jack, save
@JackSparrow You don't have permission to do that
....Come Again?
 
rofl
Jack, save
 
I've saved meself
 
I'll stop typing as jack now lmao
 
He got himself a year ban?
 
@JonathonChase IIRC he was banned for 430~ days
 
4:22 PM
@JonathonChase not even the first one
 
Is he going for the high score? How did this happen
 
He's a fucking nut factory, that's how
 
VS 16.4.1 update is taking foreeeeever
 
@CaptainSquirrel Jack can't save himself because he's not an RO, right?
 
Jay
@JonathonChase it was kind of a beast, 2.5 gigs
 
4:24 PM
The list of people who have explicit write access to this room is....odd.
Harry, human, Vap0r, Jack, Hector, Steve D, Inspector Squirrel, and J. Doe.
 
@MikeTheLiar correct
If you an RO in here, you can do all the admin commands for jack
 
4:41 PM
He doesn't have enough rep to even chat, let alone become an RO
And I'm not gonna bother a mod to handle it for us
 
@MikeTheLiar yeah i had to get madara to give him chat in here
 
Next time I have a post to make, I'll send it to you to post under Jack's account
Actually, did you ever post that SU answer?
I mean, it would only help to get the association bonus but still
I'm pretty sure it's allowed to use bounties for this purpose, as well - I'd need to double check but I think I saw this same situation on meta
Or you could just suggest another 40 some odd edits
 
5:19 PM
@MikeTheLiar yeah, someone commented saying i should make it an answer lmao
 
@CaptainSquirrel I know, that's what I meant - you could post the answer as Jack. It would only help if he got to 200 rep on SU though
 
 
1 hour later…
6:34 PM
I never thought the "Curious" badge will be so hard to get! I have some questions there but didn't get enough upvotes to earn this badge.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:35 PM
I forgot it was Friday
 
mr5
Jeez
is this a normal parliament in Europe? 😂
hey @Wietlol I know you've been sneaking in parliament this days
wietbot is still dysfunctional
@Wietbot kick Wietlol
 
what do you mean?
it works fine
 
mr5
it doesn't reply to me
 
42 secs ago, by Wietlol
it works fine
 
from what I understand, some parliaments have full-on brawls on occasion
 
7:45 PM
wietbot will only respond if he is in the room
 
US congress should do that more often
 
@mr5 try again
also, keep in mind, he will only respond if you start with @Wietbot, not if it is somewhere else in the sentence (whitespace is still fine before it, I think)
 
mr5
@AlRey but look at that vid, it's like a classroom fill with children laughing at corny jokes
@Wietbot kick yourself
 
I don't know this command, did you mean any of the following? join
 
@Wietbot listcommands
 
7:46 PM
evalJs, evalKotlin, evalNode, evalCSharp, evalSql, listCommands, join, leave, barrelRoll, shutdown, slowpoke
 
mr5
@Wietbot learn kick kick Wietlol
 
I don't know this command, did you mean any of the following? leave, join
 
mr5
eww
@Wietbot evaljs 1+!
borked
 
no
 
javax.script.ScriptException(<eval>:1:3 Expected an operand but found eof
1+!
^ in <eval> at line number 1 at column number 3)
 
7:47 PM
just cold start
 
mr5
@Wietbot evaljs 1+1
 
2
 
mr5
why is there a cold boot?
 
because there is no server running the commands
when you invoke a command, it will spin up servers and run the application
its cloud compute
 
@mr5 your video doesn't load
 
7:48 PM
AWS Lambda
Azure Function
Google Cloud Function
like those
 
Does to have a default timeout time for execution?
Or can I just crank resources
 
I dont think I can even remove the timeout thing
 
> 900 seconds (15 minutes)
that is the limit
but mine are often set to 6 seconds
some to 10, some to 20
based on what they need
@Wietbot evaljs while(true) {}
 
me.wietlol.aws.lambda.LambdaException(unknown: 2019-12-13T19:51:03.227Z f9f7b575-83eb-4262-89a9-650a003b3e1f Task timed out after 10.01 seconds[])
 
7:51 PM
^
 
@Wietbot evaljs function f(s) { return s + f(s); } f("a");
 
java.lang.StackOverflowError(null)
 
null?
 
Yeah did not expect that
 
also... yes, evalJs = java
ah, java.lang.StackOverflowError's message is null
although null might be a bit over the top, I cant really think of a useful message really
evalnode is a node application, should have some more javascripty results
 
7:54 PM
evaljs is java and not javascript? How on earth did that run.
 
evaljs is a java application, running the nashorn js engine
its js++
 
i see
 
@Wietbot evalnode while (true) {}
 
@Wietlol me.wietlol.aws.lambda.LambdaException(unknown: 2019-12-13T19:55:00.156Z af76eb93-2696-4e5c-a934-0524591742cf Task timed out after 10.01 seconds[])
 
@Wietbot evalnode function f(s) { return s + f(s); } f("a");
 
7:55 PM
@Wietlol RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded
 
^ that be the node version
 
@Wietbot evalnode let a = "a"; while(true) { a += a; }
 
@JonathonChase SyntaxError: Unexpected token '{'
 
(iDunno why I tried the timeout, since that one would be the same for all evals)
 
I should learn to type.
 
7:55 PM
@JonathonChase RangeError: Invalid string length
 
you can make typos in the command keyword, but not in the code, no :D
@Wietbot evalnudo "hehe"
 
I don't know this command, did you mean any of the following? evalnode, evalsql, evaljs
 
oh?
@Wietbot evalnude "nsfw"
 
@Wietlol nsfw
 
although, I should prolly move the conversation to the sandbox
@JonathonChase a nice one is evalsql
also, evalcsharp has a small issue... which I still need to fix
I would be happy if someone would write their own version of any eval in any language
 
7:58 PM
@Wietbot evalsql ;with f(l) as (select "a" union all select * from f) select l from f
 
org.h2.jdbc.JdbcSQLSyntaxErrorException(Column "a" not found; SQL statement:
with f(l) as (select "a" union all select * from f) select l from f [42122-200])
 
ye... you use an empty database tho
 
oh right, single quotes for sql
 
@Wietbot evalsql create table jona (
    name nvarchar(1024) not null
)
 
Success, 0 records affected.
 
7:59 PM
@Wietbot evalsql ;with f(l) as (select 'a' union all select * from f) select l from f
 
org.h2.jdbc.JdbcSQLNonTransientException(General error: "java.lang.NullPointerException"; SQL statement:
; [50000-200])
 

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