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13:00
he was great in that role
this joker may be different because he portraits a different kind of joker
mr5
mr5
if it's played by Phoenix Joaquin, you wouldn't?
so, you would less likely compare it to Heath
hes great too
@mr5 by default... no, but since he does play a different kind of joker, I suppose I can watch it
13:00
in that role , judging by what i ve seen so far
hes playing the early years of joker
before he became the joker we all know
There's going to be a Star Trek: Picard from Amazon Prime!
Is nothing sacred anymore!?
so its certainly new
im looking forward to that spin off
the next century was the best star trek imo
@Neil wasnt there already a movie or something with the story of star trek... with picard... without Patrick?
yeah, it was the "old" star trek branched off a different timeline
Not a big fan of it honestly
also, did any of you know there was an animated lord of the rings?
13:03
yeah, I knew that
done in the 70s right?
(before the Jackson version tho)
ye, its ancient
It was well-done.. must have taken them ages to animate the whole thing
it certainly was quite a job
im looking forward to the amazon middle earth show tho
but I am always afraid they will mess it up
I thought game of thrones was good... until they messed it up
...I just found out Heath Ledger was that edgy kid in 10 Things I Hate about You
GOT followed the books for the most part, but then ran out of story, so the guys that adapted book content to screen content were writing original stuff... which they are not good at.
13:06
I just think they thought that GoT was going on for too long, so they tried to condense a lot into the last two seasons
I expect LOTR series to have competent writers for an original story from the get-go, so it'll either be consistently good or consistently bad :-D
idk how GoT got as big as it did
I read the actual book and thought it was just fine at best
ME/LOTR stories are already written tho
I know there have been others, but the first one is actually called GoT and it was.....just there
I thought they were simply going to bring more to the screens
13:07
@AlRey Grand scale, well-executed, grimy dark fantasyish world in a tv series is rare? I guess that's it.
the characters were well-written. I get tired of black and white characters
they all had clear motivations and they all had character flaws
the only exception to that could be Jon Snow perhaps
His flaw was knowing nothing.
idk my only experience with the series is the first book
I'm mostly just asking how the one series led to all this
@Wietlol The TV series will have a story set in the LOTR universe, but not following any existing story. It's an original. So, it'll be either good or bad depending on how good the writers are :p
@RoelvanUden My guess is that Kit Harington will be hearing that quote the rest of his life like it were some clever thing to say
13:09
and I guess yeah the characters are more interestingly-written than most other fantasy characters, but I think the original GoT might just be going through the Seinfeld effect
I think GoT got big because it was the first show in quite a while where you couldnt expect the outcome but still reason with the results
that part is what they lost in the final season tho
@Wietlol Clearly you don't watch anime wink wink nudge nudge
@RoelvanUden ooh, that is interesting
I think we got burned by too many series like Lost and Heroes where the writers are kinda winging it from episode to episode
@RoelvanUden I havent watched many animes, no
I recall starting One Punch Man
and I watched a bit of Naturo and Bleach, but didnt finish either
13:11
There's a lot of good anime out there that is not predictable, has amazing characters and story. Unfortunately there's also a lot of poop out there and that's pretty much the only thing people see (that aren't into anime).
Anyone use MSIX to publish a core wpf app?
nm think I found what I was looking for, I was on the right track at 1am lol
@wietlol watch flcl
it's only 6 episodes
Has anyone experienced the wonderful issue of VS deciding that c# doesn't belong in an mvc view recently?
AKA this
ive had that sometimes
i just rebuilt and usually helps
I've dealt with this issue several times
but for the life of me i can never remember what the hell i've done to fix
13:26
whats the error?
Model doesn't exist
Well, does it?
is your model using @model or @Model ?
@model to define to the model for the view
But var also apparently doesn't exist
hmm
13:27
I've just seen something about version numbers in the web.config so imma give that a go
Lol. It's smart enough to make the var an object, but not smart enough to see where it's at.
This project has just been upgraded to a newer cms version so
It wouldn't surprise me if this was an artifact from that
I think I just restart VS whenever that happens
guys
workplace question
Kotlin
13:34
how long should one put up with being a junior developer as a general rule in your experience
depends on how you feel
realizes Kotlin is not the answer to everything
and on how you feel about taking responsibilities
@Harry as soon as colleagues come to you for architecture advice, you can consider yourself a senior
or... something between a junior and a senior
easy lion boi, mid level comes before senior
13:36
And also on your structure. We don't really have junior/senior devs as seperate job positions, more like...there are devs on a team, some are there longer than others, some get asked more stuff than others, some have some kind of authority about a topic they took on
Ah, the infamous "mid level developer"
is a mid level developer like a genderless person?
tbh my imminent concern is salary...dont know whether or not im being 'underpaid' or at what stage i will become underpaid based upon value
or a non-male non-female person?
wot
@Wietlol Are you high?
13:39
"I dont belong with the juniors but also not with the seniors"
"I dont belong with the males but also not with the females"
I dont see any difference
Over here they call them "Medior"
over here, we dont have terms like junior or senior
Rob
Rob
@Harry A year or two sounds about right to progress from a junior developer to just a developer. Though it's quite common (at least where I live) to need to switch jobs in order to grab a better title/salary
Well, in my company they don't either, but in general, I've heard the term, bit easier than "mid-level-genderfluid-non-binary-developer'
Nullable<Gender>
13:42
I'd agree with what Rob said
But it also depends on your quality of code etc
Or if you want to piss of the social justice warriors: 'bool Gender', obviously with true being male.
Why would you have a bool for a gender
If you wanted to do that, you could just make an enum where female = 0 & male = 1
Plus that allows for an "other" & "Prefer not to say"
Why even use explicit numbers
Just use a damn enum
Also "Apache Attack Helicopter"
Apparently the "Apache Attack Helicopter" thing is offensive so probably shouldn't use it
Fine, just "Apache Helicopter"
Damn social justice uhhh freedom fighters
13:46
enum Gender {
    UndefinedWithAPenis,    NeutralWithAPenis,   ClearlyMale,
    UndfinedWeird,          NeutralWeird,        ClearlyWeird,
    UndefinedWithAVagina,   NeutralWithAVagina,  ClearlyFemale,
}
I think I solved the gender issue
It does not
people want options? then options they shall have
With a penis/vagina has nothing to do with gender
that's sex
gender is a social construct
its funny that in my language, there is no distinction between the two concepts
neither in german. Hence difficult to translate.
13:48
I mean, is gender a social construct?
We have like "social gender" and "biological gender" for it in german
yes gender is a social construct. Sex is a biological fact.
If you have Gender Reassignment Surgery
It helps you look more like your gender
That's a medical procedure
And you also have people who are trans that felt like they were in the wrong body before this whole gender is a social construct business
But if gender is a social construct, how do you look like a specific gender
13:50
That is a good question Roel
@Rob god i hope not
This is a dangerous conversation
thanks for your answers
You look like a specific sex, but we tend to associate male sex with male gender and female sex with female gender (for obvious reasons)
@CaptainObvious I jsut dig myself deeper and deeper until I jsut leave
mr5
mr5
@Harry 6 months
13:51
@mr5 Are you nuts
@mr5 in one job tho or just general experience
mr5
mr5
if you job hop, you can speed up the salary increase, so basically, it's like leveling up in career
I'd say at least 2 years for a junior to mid, then like 5+ to go from mid to senior
@Squirrelkiller but the term Male and Female, are those genders or sexes?
@Wietlol Can't think of other terms, so for now my answer is "both, unfortunately"
mr5
mr5
13:53
@CaptainObvious how about experience from non-professional environment?
but what if you are a male sex but female gender?
@mr5 That's a hard one
Although at the same time it's what I got hired on
mr5
mr5
there are only 2 gender and two sexes @Wietlol
@Wietlol Then you are generally considered female, unless your doctor asks you something like "do you have a penis?"
oh there are more than two genders
mr5
mr5
I'd say, I have a total of 7 years of experience including my freelancing. Without it, I only have 3 years+
13:54
Don't you dare descriminate against my Apache Helicopter
then I suppose I still dont understand the issue people are having when someone says "ladies and gentlemen" for example
@Squirrelki how many are there?
@mr5 Freelancing is still experience though
I have 4 years professional but then before that you could say I have another "4 years"
@ABuckau No idea
13:55
If you are not counting that on your resume then you are being silly
Gender is sorta fluid nowadays
Technically I was writing php during my 3 years of uni
I'm not going to tell people that though
I get enough php jobs into my inbox as it is
@Squirrelkiller TIL that gender is a type of liquid
@Neil if gender is a liquid, is sex a gas?
13:57
@CaptainObvious I did python too
@Wietlol oh hell yes sex is a gas
And also made the mistake of putting that on my CV
So i get alot of python jobs too
I don't know about you guys but my sex is solid
That's inappropriate @Squirrelkiller lmao
At least its not on fire
imagine being consumed with what's to transpire
14:11
holy crap
there is a story about some girl on the bbc who got kicked in the face by a horse
her jaw is in half
literally
pretty sure that's a lucky to be alive story right there
How the fuck does she have a vaguely normal looking face
Plastic Surgeons are really good these days
well, NHS ones anyway
3d printing has really helped plastic surgeons
14:17
oh niel with your witty comments
I wasn't trying to be witty there
Hm
So i opened a view
and vs threw an error
I think i might know what's going wrong with my views
@CaptainSquirrel did your windows have a good view?
@CaptainSquirrel did they need glasses
Did you have a good visual of your studio?
14:22
what is going on, it aint even Fredas yet
both of you can and i quote this from @Harry
Suck my toes
i dont think i said that
did i not say suck my elbows
I'm pretty sure you did
ahem
Aug 6 at 14:12, by Harry
we've just signed a top class player and i want to go home and suck my toes to celebrate
ahem ahem
Jul 5 at 8:40, by Harry
@CaptainSquirrel i was gonna say suck my toes but i thought it might be too weird
womp
14:24
xomp
You did also say "suck my elbows"
class Player {...}

certificate.sign(Player.top)
go(home)
celebrate.inAWeirdWay()
There are 143 pages or 7106 messages of the word fuck
OMG. FLAGGED.
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14:32
Hey guys. I have a question. Here is my code I am trying to make a json format to use in a JS library for charting. I have my model for the chart but I cannot figure out a good way to dynamically name these value but keep them at the same level as "axis".
If you look at my code. I have the goal JSON at the bottom with what it looks like now. As well as my models and calling code.
A push in the right direction would be super helpful if anyone has some time to look over it.
There are 246 pages or 12270 messages containing "Wietlol"
ew JS, I think this is a perfect time for me to leave
@Wietlol Well all you talk about is wietlang so
@Wietlol Lol same. Im trying to do all this on the C# side because... ew js
There are 3 pages or 115 messages containing "Wietlang"
14:44
Actually, I think I figured it out but would like some input on my fix. I changed the parent model to take Dynamic list instead of a list of a different model. This allowed me to set the variable name in my calling method.
sql question? is it okay to ask
I have a dev database and i'm adding some new fields to a few tables. DBA's will be refreshing that DB from production (which doesn't have the field). that will get rid of the fields wont it?
in dev
@Koosh yes
Ideally you need to generate an alter script for the tables you have changed
OR ask your DBA's to do so for you
IMO, if your DBA's are refreshing the DB from production, they should also be doing that for you
You should provide migration scripts that the DBAs can execute when the new version goes into production.
Or, depending on the involvement of the DBAs, have them handle it as Captain said.
If you are not overly confident with sql, there is no harm in asking a DBA to show you how to do this
There's no shame in learning
15:13
@Koosh is 'refreshing' a technical term? what/how will they be doing?
@ABuckau AFAIK a DB Refresh is pulling your database down from production and overwriting the local developer one
i know 'refresh' means in a general sense.. so it seems like the answer to koosh's question was "yes" .?
after rereading, i see you said that..I was never here :D
mr5
mr5
15:37
question
Shifters memory is rumbled in different timeline. The past, Future, and present holder of the shifter. As it is attached and circulate in the same axis of the original titan. Very interesting
What does that sentences mean?
is Selenium working in VS2019?
Kevin Montrose on October 08, 2019

Automated SQL parameterization with Dapper

Default encoding strings in views with Razor

Requiring cross site request forgery (XSRF) tokens for non-idempotent (ie. POST, PUT, DELETE, etc.) routes by default

HMACs with default expirations and common validation code

Adopting TypeScript—an ongoing process—which increases our confidence around shipping correct JavaScript

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@CaptainObvious whats dis
Code review
Need to review 45 commits worth of changes on a branch
mr5
mr5
15:51
download auto scroll and auto clicker
problem solved
Accept + Merge all
Problem solved
WHich is a great plan until we come to deploy and it's all fucked
I've done ones like that before
ive ruined peoples work doing that before
16:01
New project so just generating gobs of code, will be just waving this thru :)
Oh shit it's 5, good evening lads
Tis indeed 5
mr5
mr5
26 mins ago, by mr5
> Shifters memory is rumbled in different timeline. The past, Future, and present holder of the shifter. As it is attached and circulate in the same axis of the original titan. Very interesting
I've done merges before that have still managed to fuck everything up
You're destroying the hacker stereotype
mr5
mr5
16:04
any AoT fan here?
But that's also what you get when you have to do merges 5 minutes before a deployment
*What people think of software devs*
THESE PEOPLE ARE SOOOOO DANGEROUS AND COULD HACK US AT ANY TIME

*what software devs are really like*
I've had 6 red bulls today and I want to die
 
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17:58
hi. the continue keyword is tricky
well I had a method that did a simple boolean check. meaning if true... continue. but that is not how it works. I actually had a to put a ! operator in front of my method name.
if (!HasContentConversionExceededTimeLimit(content)) continue;
so now my method name does not make sense. Meaning if my time has been exceeded.. contineu. but that is not how contineu works.
Continue must be a French word @CaptainObvious?
Yup: Middle English: from Old French continuer, from Latin continuare, from continuus (see continuous).
Continue is kinda like break, except it doesn't break the iteration, but it will stop the current instance and move straight on to the next one
"Middle English" is really old, to the point where it doesn't really qualify.
okay @CaptainObvious I will see if I can come up with a better method name now that continue is being used and not operator was added
any ideas?
I don't know because I don't know what your code is doing or what you want it to do
18:07
I think it could be renamed "SuccesfulTimeConversion"
if(!SuccesfulTimeConversion) continue;
@Harry please dont drink energy drinks. they are seriously not good for you.
18:25
In Visual Studio 2019 there is no Azure Mobile App template. So what should I do? Downgrading to VS 2017?
Visual Studio App Center ?
It is really confusing.
@CaptainObvious you done the lottery today?
18:42
Uh maybe why
£169 jackpot on euro millions
Apparenlty I have
noice
direct debit? lmao
wait
you could log in?
what is this?
OFC, they've probably turned logging in back on again
I had to run to the corner shop to do mine
18:44
Nah I just logged in the otehr day and found like £30 on there
lmao what haha
So just queued up a load of games for a few weeks
fair enough
that...sounds like somebody might be using your account..?
did you pick your numbers or did you lucky dip
18:44
Lucky dip like an animal
Was logging in not working?
bro
i would not be putting your ticket numbers online lmao
and no it wasn't
kept hitting a cloudfront page
It's fine
I prolly won't win anyway
And if I won anything worth winning then they do all sort of verification like GOING TO YOUR HOUSE, and the little prizes would just pay striaght into my account
They go to your house for verification?
If you win over 10k I think
lol wat
really
18:49
Yeah
hmm is 10k enough to tidy my house up...
It's 50k for the home visit
ok I'd probably do it for that
18:51
You can apparently claim the £50k prize at a post office with a terminal
Over 50k then
Jay
Jay
does anyone have any insight into why Visual Studio thinks this line has an error and says it's expecting a comma somewhere?
bool isValidEndDate = DateTime.TryParse(txtEndDate.Text, out DateTime EndDate);
It's probably not that line
Jay
Jay
no red squigglies, but that's the line it says has the error
it will not build
Post error
Jay
Jay
18:55
Severity Code Description Project File Line Suppression State
Error CS1003 Syntax error, ',' expected MaterialsShortageSchedule C:\VSWorkspace\Intranet\MaterialsShortageSchedule\MaterialsShortageSchedule\Shortages.aspx.cs 93 N/A
the line I posted is line 93 on that page
line before that line?
Try using the other overload, maybe it's getting confused
Jay
Jay
@ABuckau it's a variable declaration
mm u dont have to put the type in the call.?
You're not in the middle of an object initialiser are you?
18:58
are you not using the variable? out DateTime...
What .net version?

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