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1:01 PM
i am gen z
1999
 
haha zoomer
 
bad luck harry
im a millennial, just
 
>implying zoomers are more unlucky than millennials
 
i only found that out about a year ago, id been slagging millenials off for the last decade lol
 
@Freerey lol you are though
 
1:05 PM
zoomers = "Generation Rent"
 
I remember someone said people like me are why others hate their generation :')
 
zoomers = stuka
 
wym rent? millennials started that trend lol
 
Yes, started it
 
the 90's millenials
abused it
 
1:06 PM
Not really
 
so many kids driving around AMGs on finance xD
or Audi S3's
 
It's more that the cost of housing fucking skyrocketed
And salaries didn't
 
dam right it did whew
 
@CaptainObvious Yeh true, but im not talking about just housing
 
I could buy a house once I get hitched and pay off my student debt...which should take less than a decade
 
1:07 PM
some millenials got away with buying before it became entirely undoable
Although you could argue that the 2008 crash was partly down to millenials
 
its still doable
just not as easily
cus the banks got greedy and just saw the potential future return on all thos emortgaes
forgetting 20% of 0 is still 0 when they defaulted
im more interested in why so many younguns get tricked into buying brand new expenisve cars on finance
such a stupid thing to do when youre 20, PCP finance
im like "if youre moaning you cant afford the deposit on a house, why have you committed to spending 12K over 4 years for a car?"
which you wont even own after that
I think part of the issue, other than the housing market skyrocketing, is the misprioritising of finances
 
The car finance bubble is going to burst sooon
 
inc my rent, it was gonna take me 2.5 years to get together enough for a deposit out of my salary at the time
 
Because the vast majority of people don't know what they're doing
 
Well
they can just repossess the cars
 
1:13 PM
uh oh
 
will be a great time for the rest of us looking for a bargain
 
People love top hate PCP finance
 
I just got a new car last year and it's not gonna be paid off til 2025
 
...
 
It's not a terrible deal if you know what you're doing
 
1:13 PM
as in 0 miles on the clock new?
 
no, sorry
 
Personal contract hire is the real killer
 
but it was only 2 years old, so it's still pretty new
 
it is while the banks are offering such low interest rates on loans atm
ah thats not PCP finance
PCP is for brand spanking new cars
 
Because that one you do end up paying virtually the full cost of the car and there is no ownership option whatsoever
 
1:14 PM
PCP is a drug, not a financial plan :3
 
oh you mean Hire Lease?
 
You can get second hand cars on PCP, it's just very uncommon
I think he means hire purchase
 
yeah PCP you only pay half the value, but you only get it for 3 years then you have to pay the rest or give it back
 
I can't remember what my plan was called, but I think it was hire lease
 
Which are often longer 5 year deals
 
1:15 PM
"oh we misvalued your car, we owe you 3k, but we can use that for the deposit on a new PCP car..." and so the cycle continues
 
this car is mine once I'm done paying it
 
smart move
 
But basically you pay a fixed amount every month and then at the end its yours
 
thats the key thing
 
No baloon payment, no messing
 
1:16 PM
you will own it
 
I bought my current car on PCP
 
PCP, without that 10k balloon payment at the end of 36 months, you aint getting shit
 
for two specific reasons
1. I fully intend to purchase the car at the end of the deal
 
perfect, you're aware of what youre doing like you said earlier
 
2. I don't want to lose too much if my 1st gen electric car can'tlast 3 years
 
1:17 PM
thats actually a smart move, to mitigate risk
fair point
 
Of the 3 options available under PCP, only one of them actually makes sense
 
see i wanted a GT86 :P
 
I pay more on my vehicle than I otherwise would because I do drive a lot....workplace is half an hour away
wonder if I can change the plan if I were to stop driving so much
 
What do you mean you pay more?
 
before the gf turns into the mrs and i have to do practical stuff like "think about kid safety" n shit
 
1:18 PM
That doesn't sound like hire purchase
 
yeh sounds like pcp, if you have a mileage limit?
 
Hire purchase doesn't have mileage limitations because you own the car at the end
 
not sure
 
PCH or PCP sounds more like
no baloon sounds more like PCH
But you said you own the car at the end which isn't PCH
 
idk what they called it, but there was some kind of deal where they wouldn't cover something if I went over a certain amount of miles, but I'm pretty damn sure they said I'll own this thing in a few years
 
1:20 PM
might wanna check your contract freerey, i know we're in the uk so it might be diff over here, but we're both confused now xD
 
it's only my second vehicle
 
what did you get?
vehicle-wise
 
it's a 2017 Jeep Compass Latitude
 
jeeps are built like brick shithouses lol, say a dash cam incident of a head on between a jeep and a nissan suv, the jeep looked fine!
saw a dash cam*
couldnt believe it, always thought these days they were just a brand
 
yeah when I first drove it, it felt like I was driving a tank....it felt gud
 
1:22 PM
my cars have gone as follows
Daewoo Matiz -> Ford Ka -> Hyundai Coupe -> Toyota GT86
 
^this guy doesn't stick to one brand lol
 
So did you get the GT86 or not then
 
i stick to what i can get
 
Also classic matiz
 
I spent way too much fixing parts on my Nissan
 
1:23 PM
yeh, 13K, 34K miles and paid 1k for a 3 year warranty on parts and labour (non-consumables)
lol the shitbox matiz, first car, was stil lcool for freeeeedom
 
one time it was the exhaust pipe shaking loose, then the tires were making a weird noise, then the brakes were in danger of breaking, then the front of it was about to fall off
 
so i got 10k off TwatWest @3.4% and paid the rest outta savings
 
Mine are a new Vauxhall Corsa (1yr), 6 month old Vauxhall Insignia (18mth), new Hyundai Ioniq (current, 27mth)
 
4 year repayment plan @£220/month
 
TwatWest??
 
1:25 PM
Natwest
Garbage lender
 
I did like the Hyundai Coupe, not super fast but was comfy for a sorta sports car
my personal bank lol
you with HSBC per chance?
 
I did
not anymore
 
ohh...lol. I'm loaning with Huntington Bank, so there's that
 
most people its the "Who was offering the largest interest free overdraft on freshers week"
 
I hated the corsa, but for a 19 year old male, getting insured on anything else would have cost a kidney
 
1:26 PM
I liked Chase bank better
 
mine was NatWest, so here I am 15 years later xD
 
I banked with HSBC for 12 years before finally switching this year
 
biggest interest free overdraft when you went to uni?
 
I never went to uni
 
ah fair play, wouldnt have guessed
 
1:27 PM
I banked with them since I was 13
or 12
 
i my childhood bank was NationWide
well building society
 
My current bank is nationwide
 
but you know
i liked them
but i needed that big 0% overdraft when i was a student scumbag
so i got natwest as well
 
I don't have a 0% overdraft anymore :(
I had £500 intrest free when I was at HSBC of my 4.5k overdraft
 
nope, me neither the bastards
 
1:29 PM
I just always have money in the bank
 
But as a general rule I don't need an overdeaft anyway
 
i put a limit on at £400 instead of the original £1400 i had on it
 
Yeah exactly
 
same
i have 1 credit card
i have no idea what the pin number is
 
I have 3
2 of which are Amex cards, and I use one of them as a first preference
 
1:32 PM
I never had a credit card, and hope I never need one. Sucks that some online shops only take credit cards though.
 
I just have this platinum card because my banker worked out it was actually cheaper to transfer my exisiting debt onto it than keep it in my current account
 
I had amex too, until City bank moved out from Hungary
 
Some advantages to a credit card you might want:
Fraud Protection
Improving Credit Score
Car Rental in a foreign country
no.2 i hate but it can come into play later on if you apply for loans/mortgages
no.3 i didnt realise was a thing until i went to rent a car in Rhodes, thankfully i didnt need my pin no. xD
 
also I had payment in Eur, than in Huf. I lost the card once, blocking the card's fee overpriced all the gain from 1% refund
 
1:36 PM
Huf?
 
hungarian forint
 
ah ty
didnt realise they werent on the euro
 
Credit cards are awesome
 
neither is Poland coming to think of it
 
As long as you only spend what you can afford
 
1:37 PM
i do need to start using mine a bit more, just to show that i do actually use credit from time to time
 
But some of the perks are unreal
 
yeah. PLN (zloty)
 
and as it has a princely annual fee of £24
 
I might need to look for a free credit card
 
lol
 
1:38 PM
My primary amex has 2 offers at the moment, one of them being double points, and points are worth double what they usually are until the end of July
 
part of me tanking my interview for experian last year was saying i didnt use credit
hahaha
 
and the other is 100% cashback at some retailers up to £100 until august
 
hows that work?
 
100% cashback just means you get double of what you usually get, right?
 
1:39 PM
No
Basically I pay for my (for example) M&S shop for £50
Then I get £50 credit on my statement
So it's effectively free
 
Woah what
 
da fuq
which card is that? lol
 
And then I can do it as many times as I like until I get a total credit of £100
Amex platiinum
 
for the month right?
 
Really expensive card but has all the best perks
 
1:40 PM
so you get £100 off purchases per month?
 
Wow they really want to boost economy
 
Oh it's not a regular thing
 
no i mean for the opromo sorry
 
Oh yeah essentially
 
hmmmm
i might have to do some more adulting later and look into this
 
1:41 PM
 
or play Warzone
ill be honest itll probably be warzone
 
That's running in addition to the bonus points offer
 
my problem is i cant be arsed to keep track of it all lol
 
mr5
> nurturing and autonomous company
is the grammar okay?
 
Context required
 
1:42 PM
grammar is fine, just a bit odd to put autonomous after nuturing
 
mr5
are the adjectives suited for the subject?
I'm resigning to my company and I would like to describe it.
 
like @CaptainObvious said, context required
 
Autonomous is an odd choice in any instance
 
yeh thought it was a job description pagge
 
mr5
yeah I'm also doubting the website that suggest it.
 
1:44 PM
nurturing is good, id get rid of autonomous
 
If you do end up looking into the amex though, let me know because a referral is worth at least £54 in points
 
personally my resignation consists of "Im leaving on this date, bye"
 
Yeah that basically
 
bit more formal than that, but thats all i write effectively
 
We have a different but equally awesome life hack in germany currently:
If you buy an electric car, you get 6k€ from the state. So essentially your car gets cheaper.
Now this bonus also applies to leasing cars. So when you lease a new car for 2 years, you get 6k€ bonus, so it's cheaper.
So currently you can lease a very small car (called Smart) for 20-30€/month for 18 months. This will get you 6k€ bonus.
All in all, after 18 months, you will have paid 5k€. So since you got the 6k€ bonus, in the end you are 1k€ richer.
 
1:45 PM
Something along the lines of "Thanks for the opportunity, but I'm leaving, here's my notice, byeeee"
 
mr5
nurturing as in they assess their employee to develop their skills
autonomous to describe the freedom of the employee about their projects.
 
@CaptainObvious I'll give you the referral if i do lol
mr5, dont worry about being nice
 
@Squirrelkiller The incentives over here aren't that good
 
just get to the point, if they want an explanation, you can give them one if you like in a meeting, but you dont have to
 
mr5
For Wietlol:
Jun 24 at 14:02, by Wietlol
"laytar, bitchas!"
 
1:46 PM
lol yeah pretty much
99% of the time if you're resigning its because you want out of that place, rather than in at another
 
mr5
@DAustin well, you need to consider the culture also
 
your manager will know and understand this lol
 
mr5
for western culture, that's okay I think
but it's different here.
 
i suppose
 
The EV grant here is paid straight to the manufacturer
So the customer doesn't see it
Except all the pre-grant prices just get adjusted upwards by <grant amount>
 
mr5
1:47 PM
2 mins ago, by mr5
nurturing as in they assess their employee to develop their skills
autonomous to describe the freedom of the employee about their projects.
do you guys know any synonyms for these words?
this is where I get those adjectives.
 
It is my regret to inform you that as of today <insert date>, I will be resigning from my position of <job title> at <company name>. As per my contract, my final day will be on <insert final day date>.

<Signed>
 
For example, whenI got my car it cost ~27k after the £4500 grant
Then the government changed the value of the grant to £3500
Guess how much the car cost after the change
 
mr5
@DAustin our contract actually requires us to render 40 more days after passing of our resignation letter.
 
@mr5 swap autonomous with freedom
and you should be good
 
If you guessed ~27k, you'd be dead on correct
 
1:50 PM
@CaptainObvious 30k?
 
mr5
@DAustin ayt. thx m8
 
correct, that's why you put 2 dates
 
Damn I thought C# chat ded, but u kiddos spammed 240 messages in the last half hour or so
 
Now we know: Don't take economics help from ntohl.
 
the date you're starting your 40 day notice period, and the date that ends on
so there's no confusing to which day will be the last one you turn up on
@mr5 no worries, glad to help
this is part of the reason i stayed away from c# chat while i was working from home
 
1:53 PM
I would use trusting instead of autonomous, if I understand you correctly what would you like
 
1 hour and nothing done really lol, too busy here
trusting works too
 
@Squirrelkiller I thought there is a double trick
 
mr5
> ...have given to me despite of my shortcomings.
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
documenting code from a decase ago someone else wrote is my new definition of "Tedious"
decade*
 
mr5
Google suggest to replace those as "despite my"
 
1:58 PM
Yes that would be correct to replace, but that's pretty self-deprecating there
 
*in spite of
 
despite my shortcomings & in pite of my shortcomings both work
 
up to you which sounds better
 
mr5
well, I'm actually have a lot of short comings compared to my co workers especially in communication.
 
but again, why point out your shortcomings in a resignation letter?
pite = spite*
 
mr5
1:59 PM
@Freerey this sounds equivalent. I'll try it.
hmm idk
 

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