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mr5
2:00 PM
do you think it's a bad idea?
 
well its just odd to me, as you saw, in western culture its just a "I'm telling you today that im leaving, so my last day is on this day, thanks"
 
I personally wouldn't put up anything about shortcomings
shows a lack of confidence
 
same
 
mr5
I'm actually addressing the HR director so I think it's more on personal level? (HR director is the spouse of the company's president)
 
it's like saying "I know I sucked, which is why I'm leaving"
 
2:01 PM
i get thanking them and showing appreciation (you want a nice reference after all) but i wouldnt remind them of the times you fucked up too lol
yeh, what freerey said
 
mr5
haha
 
i mean, no one else is going to see it but them, but it'll let them go "See, I told you he was bad at x"
 
mr5
now I need to rewrite my letter again.
 
use my example above lol its 1 line
done.
go drink
 
mr5
okay now that you said it. I'll boast now.
ur company suck that's why I'm leaving.
 
2:03 PM
howl ong does a resignation letter need to be??
 
haha careful, you need their reference going forward
 
mr5
lol I wish it fits my character.
 
legit I've never written one
 
just be a robot, what would wietbot say?
 
but that's cause my current job is my first one outside of college
wietbot would probably say "nullreferencexception error at address {$1}"
 
mr5
2:04 PM
@Freerey I feel I need at least a paragraph
 
try this one, iits quite good for a Uk style resignation letter:
 
mr5
> First of all, I would like to give a very big thanks to you for giving me a chance to be a part of your very professional company. I’m thankful for the growth and opportunity your company has given me.
With that said, I am writing this letter to inform you that I have decided to resign from your company.
I think I'm still missing something...
halp
 
[Insert your name]

[Insert your Address]



[Insert date]



[Insert Recipient name]

[Insert Title]

[Insert Organisation]

[Insert Address]



Dear [Insert manager’s name],

Please accept this letter as notice of my resignation from the position of [Insert job title] at [Insert company].

As per the terms of my employment contract, i will continue to work for the company for the next [Insert notice period length], completing my employment on [Insert last day you intend to work].

I have enjoyed being a part of the team and am thankful for the opportunities you have given me during my tim
 
you are thinking way too hard
 
^^ That's a pretty solid one
 
2:05 PM
so hard it's managing to hurt my head
 
mr5
yeah that is me
^^
I don't know
 
Just use that and fill in the blanks
 
positive and to the point
 
I dread the day I have to leave here
 
you're in a 1-man itr dept too Capt?
 
2:06 PM
(aside form getting fired that is)
I have a 2 month notice period
 
IT Dept.
 
Nah there's 3 of us
 
mr5
@DAustin thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
hahaha
 
Plus the It of the parent company
 
oh, im alone and my notice period is 3 months :(
 
mr5
2:07 PM
did you wrote it?
 
no its from that link i sent just before ;)
second result in google for "resignation letter uk" lol
 
mr5
lol
 
just the notice period that worries you?
 
mr5
my English composition sucks. It's always heading into "drama"
 
2 months should be alright, will prevent being hired by the "We're in the shit and need someone ASAP" companies
 
2:08 PM
soundsl ike me when I was 14
 
mr5
yeah. maybe they would change their mind. maybe they would let me out earlier since they can't take anymore my depreciating performance after wfh
 
my dad is an expert in angry letter-writing
 
It's more just that it's so long to keep eveyone up to speed with what I've been doing
Except I do that anyway so it'd just be mindless working for 2 months
 
ive learnt words from his complaints to Virgin Media I didnt know existed
 
Tbh they'd probably just do what they normally do and once I was done just say "if you're done then you can take the notice period at home and not work
 
2:10 PM
id just say "Read the documentation"
 
mr5
@DAustin should the address in full details?
 
and think "They aint gonna fire me, im leaving in 4 days" xD
 
mr5
Do I need to put my room# and bldg #?
 
honestly, i dont even include an address in my own, but yeah I guess?
depends if you're handing it to them in person or mailing it?
 
I need some help unit testing here
 
mr5
2:11 PM
what if they went here in person punch me in the face "finally. took you long time to get a hint!"
 
Calling a method on a controller says the following:
 
@Squirrelkiller Im out
 
System.InvalidOperationException : HttpControllerContext.Configuration must not be null
 
oh
let me look if i have something for that
 
Wtf does it mean? Like, I usually just build the controller injecting mocks to the services that method uses
Would be great if you had something
 
2:13 PM
ikr, im sure i havent done anything fancy with mine but can compare to see if theres a diff in the config etc
 
For some reason, it only fails on every second run. Despite the test method newly instantiating the controller every time.
Right now i instantiate it like var sut = new Controller(mockService1, mockService2){ Request = new HttpRequestMessage(), Configuration = new HttpConfiguration() }. Then call the method. The method is supposed to return UnAuthorizd() in this case. But every other run it returns InternalServerError.
Stackoverflow said to just set Request and Configuration to fix it.
 
/o
 
mr5
o/
what are your thoughts of having different date format in a formal letter?
 
2:17 PM
Yeah sorry I got nothing for that, im accessing IHttpContext without any extras on it
weird
services.AddTransient<IHttpContextAccessor, HttpContextAccessor>();
maybe that in startup.cs might help
or singleton
 
Test project has no startup though
 
oh.
 
I just initialize stuff I want to test directly
 
does this mean you'll need to do it via a FactoryMethod or whatever its called?
 
just new MyController()
Directly
Tests shouldn't use any logic - best to do that by directly using new.
 
2:19 PM
what happened to neil
 
no idea mate sorry, my hunch is the scope isnt right
 
mr5
@DAustin I am a bit hesitated to include this "I hope that I can rely on you for a positive reference in future." in my letter. What do I do?
 
Will try to figure it out, thanks DAustin
 
report for duty neil cat
 
you can drop it if you like, its a subtle way of reminding them that you will want to use them as a reference for future employment
 
2:21 PM
Also says "I like you and I hope you still like me too"
 
^^ yeah
no hard feelings?
like a breakup where one of them says "I hope we can still be friends"
 
mr5
@Squirrelkiller ^^
I am not confident to say it.
 
the other thing @mr5 is that it is illegal[?] to give a negative reference in the uk, employers have to word their references to other employers extremely carefully
 
mr5
because you know, I feel like I'm not going to end in good terms since my last 2 projects (within timeframe of wfh) did not end on time.
 
the only way they can say someone is a shit employee is by answering the question "Would you hire this person again for the same position?" and they reply "No"
 
2:24 PM
Do projects ever end within the expected timeline though?
 
that's the employer to employer signal that they shouldn't hire the applicant
 
@Squirrelkiller when it come to auth I handled Controllers as integration tests. So my test consisted of running a HttpServer self hosted, and calling the controllers end point
 
everything else they can only say neutral/positive stuff apparently
 
mr5
the other quadrupled the estimated time. this other one tripled. omg.
 
@mr5 so what
 
2:26 PM
I can imagine how easily they manipulate you with "you can do it earlier"
 
@mr5 you're paid pro rata, so just because you didnt stay to finish something means nothing
never let your boss trick you into thinking theyre the ones doing you a favour by hiring you
they needed you, its not a favour from them
 
true
 
yeah. Can you look at how much they get for those projects?
 
they dont give a shit about you
 
@ntohl Nah I just want to test the one method. The UnAuthorized is returned from within an if statement explicitely.
 
2:27 PM
its an agreement to do x amount of work for x amount of money, as long as you keep that agreement, you owe them nothing else
 
mr5
@DAustin how about replacing the "reference" thing with this: "With that said, I hope your company to become more successful and survive all the challenges it will face in the future."
 
yeah that's fine
 
mr5
tbf, software development in our country is very cheap compared to other companies from EU
 
but you're worrying about this way too much, i feel like its a pretty bad working environment to be in?
 
mr5
our clients are from EU too.
 
2:29 PM
@Squirrelkiller oh. My auth is so baked in, I quit trying to mock out. Some CORS tests are also integrationish... Rest is pure calling the Controller
just like you
 
mr5
@DAustin no. it's just me. my other co workers are fine.
It's my current state of mind that's making me think this way.
 
Fucking S3
Why is it so garbage
 
@mr5 ah ok, you know when you change your phone contract with your providor? what do you do? ring them and say, im leaving, cancel my contract
 
@ntohl Our Auth is baked in too, this result is for another case of failed auth.
 
this is just the same
you can do all the heart to heart stuff in person with peoiple individually if you want
but this letter is just the official written record so no one can dispute when you stopped working there
i mean, the last time i wrote one, I got a 5K pay rise 2 days later
had to tear it up mind you
but it was a literal one line, im leaving on this date, cya. laetter
letter*
 
mr5
2:33 PM
Should I send it as an email or an attachment?
 
in person is usually best
 
mr5
Should I send it right now (10:33 PM)
 
print and signed
noooooo
wait until opening hours
otherwise it might look like you got drunk lol
 
yeah dont send it now
 
mr5
@DAustin lol.
 
2:34 PM
first thing in the morning
 
Oh also every time I debug the test, it correctly returns UnAuthorized every fucking time. It jsut fails when not in debug mode.
 
we all do stupid stuff after a few drinks ;)
 
mr5
@DAustin oohhh I forgot the signed part lol
so in PDF format right?
 
you have to slam it in their face when they are wide awake
BAM!
 
printed and signed
 
2:34 PM
the shock is much bigger that way
 
mr5
printed as in hard copy?
 
over here, an email adress is as good as a signature legallym, dont know about where you are?
 
mr5
do I really need a signature there?
 
if you're going into the office tomorrow, just print it off at work on their machine, sign it and then ask your manager for a "Private chat"
 
@Squirrelkiller keep in mind, that Owin/Kestrel's baked in auth saves some trouble from DDOS. If the auth phase is rejected, you can reject the request before the parameters are resolved
 
2:35 PM
Good point, I'm in germany. We're not sure about about E-Mails, so legal stuff will always be on paper.
 
mr5
it's kinda hard to do since I don't own a e-pen.
 
you'll have to google what the legal requirements are for your country, im not sure
 
mr5
@DAustin we're working from home since February.
 
wow homeoffice
lucky you
 
in the UK though, sending from your personal email is considered the same as a signature
 
2:36 PM
@ntohl There's no auth phase though, since I directly instantiate the controller, and directly call the method. No OWIN, no request pipeline, no initialization.
 
but you still resigning ?
germany is a shithole country we dont have a lot of homeoffice over here
 
im working from home atm Hans and am currently looking for another job, so its possible to hate it lol
 
things need to change
and they will
 
yeah theyre going to
 
mr5
@Hans1984 imagine working on a shared room with no table and chair. Only bed (we do have a chair and table but I'm lazy to set up my devices there because it's too much work)
 
2:37 PM
shared room?
 
woman from HR for the place im having at interview with tomorrow said that to me
 
well thats no option for quality work
you ned your own office
like I do
 
mr5
shared room or bed spacer.
 
I work from home and have my own room for working
 
mr5
I'm trying to save money hehe
 
2:38 PM
this may seem rude, but what coutry are you from mr5?
 
fair enough
 
mr5
my country name is already an embarrassment.
ph
 
ph? phillipines?
 
mr5
welp, I'm planning to do a full time freelance atm while the borders are closed.
 
@Squirrelkiller yeah. But real (no test) case, it's good to take into consideration to write your own AuthenticationBaseAttribute, and handle that special case with context.SetError(...) there
 
2:39 PM
phoenix arizona
 
mr5
@DAustin yes
 
its a pretty country :)
 
mr5
there's a lot of freelance work! yeehaw!
it's a pretty country for tourist but not for being a resident esp. in cities.
 
@ntohl Can't; this special case can only be checked after some other computations have taken place which are specific to this method.
 
i dont do it enough myself, but we all need to spend a bit more time off screen when working from home
 
2:41 PM
@Squirrelkiller ok. Consideration taken. All good.
 
i know its lockdown, but not getting outside even once a day is poretty bad, and thats happened to me more times than i care to remember during lockdown
 
thats why i go for a walk each day
do workouts
read books
cook
and so on
 
youre better than i am then
i get up, start work, stop work, cook, chill, bed most of the time atm, not healthy
 
had to force myself in the begining
its becomes normal at some point
 
trouble is im using my own equipment
 
mr5
2:43 PM
same
 
you have to keep it up long enough to become routine
 
work hasnt provided me with a mchine to use
 
thats the secret
 
so im stuck at my gaming rig to work
 
mr5
get up, work, procrastinate, procrastinate, work, chill, eat, games, sleep, repeat
 
2:44 PM
its weird doing works code on an RGB mechanical keyboard
@mr5 I see we have a similar routine ;)
 
mr5
:)
it's very unhealthy
 
i have an office, just no machine in there powerful enough to code on
well thats a lie, no machine in there that i want to code on lol
 
mr5
so a gaming rig is not powerful enough to code?
 
but there will always be shitty days
 
it is, its why im using it, but im mentally associating my chill space with workspace
 
2:45 PM
where I say screw it and dont go for a walk
 
mr5
our company provided me a Mac mini since I also code for iOS
 
my machine has seen better days
the cpu is on its way out i think
 
also these tupid ppl anoye me too much at times
 
i upgraded last year when ryzen3000 seeries came out
 
2:46 PM
so i rather stay at home instead of snapping outside
 
mr5
which @Hans1984 lol
 
I'm thinking of upgrading to ryzen
 
got a 3600 and 16gb of ram, thatll do for me
 
everyone
 
buuuuuuut i need intel to do gud virtualisation
 
2:46 PM
every single one
 
hmm tricky
 
mr5
@CaptainSquirrel I heard ryzen is good. go with it!
 
actuaslly
 
@mr5 is not gud for mobile dev apparently
 
take a look at the i5-9400KF or 9600KF
 
2:47 PM
or at least the older amd chips weren't
 
bargain chips atm
 
mr5
you can always use a real device.
 
ryzen 4000 is on the way so may be worth holding off as the market adjusts
if not the F versions are also pretty good too for the price, around the same as a 3600 but slightly quicker
and ofc intel so HyeprV etc
 
@mr5 Very true
But at the same time
Intelmasterrace
 
mr5
> ...completing my employment on 26th of August 2020
How do I say that it may change?
Like, if there was a holiday I haven't considered yet.
@CaptainSquirrel AMD > Intel
 
2:50 PM
You could always speak to whomever your new employer would be and ask them if they would mind pushing your start date back
@mr5 for price, i 100% agree
 
mr5
for performance also
 
Which is the main reason i'm considering amd tbh
 
mr5
AMD have surpassed Intel already in terms of price and performance.
Also, Vulkan > D3D > OpenGL
 
@CaptainSquirrel but why
Also the latest chips even price aside AMD is (in most respects) better performing than Intel
 

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