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mr5
12:16 AM
@MichałZegan I don't mind the late reply. That's just amazing. How did you even know there are features like this? (notifs, chat, reply) Most people in SO didn't even know that there's a chat.
 
mr5
12:48 AM
Sakurajima volcano erupted already
damn, that's fake news
sorry
but there was volcanic eruption happened, somewhere southwest part of Japan
 
 
6 hours later…
6:35 AM
posted on January 08, 2020 by Scott Hanselman

I did a post on the difference between a console, a terminal, and a shell a while back. We talk a lot about alternative "Terminals" like the Windows Terminal (that you should download immediately) but not shells. You do see a lot of choices in the Linux space with the top give being Bash, Zsh, Fish, Tcsh, and Ksh but not a lot about alternative shells for Windows. Did you love 4DOS? Well, READ

 
7:15 AM
GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOd Mornin' pleberinos!
 
Good morning.
 
7:29 AM
posted on January 10, 2020 by Scott Hanselman

Now that .NET Core 3.1 is LTS (Long Term Support) and will be supported for 3 years, it's the right time for me to update all my .NET Core 2.x sites to 3.1. It hasn't take long at all and the piece of mind is worth it. It's nice to get all these sites (in the Hanselman ecosystem LOL) onto the .NET Core 3.1 mainline. While most of my sites working and running just fine - the upgrade was easy -

 
Shut up, feeds.
 
mr5
then that's how Roel became a bot
 
Uden, commands
 
mr5
time • warp
> (especially in science fiction) an imaginary distortion of space in relation to time whereby people or objects of one period can be moved to another.
can you guys explain this further.
I can't get the definition to my head
 
It's sci-fi, make up your own thing.
 
mr5
7:35 AM
could be sci-fact in the future though
 
What is confusing about it tho?
 
it just a transportation
teleportation
 
mr5
oh
 
or position replacement
 
mr5
like Goku's instant transmission?
 
7:37 AM
No, teleportation is different.
 
that doesnt matter
2 mins ago, by mr5
I can't get the definition to my head
 
mr5
so what does it mean when someone says "Earth warps time" then?
 
do you watched avengers?
 
mr5
yep
 
in the movie there is some serious theory about it
 
mr5
7:39 AM
which part?
 
cant find
 
mr5
lol
 
btw do you know time flow isnt constant?
 
mr5
Is it when the Avengers were having a conference?
Yeah, I know some of it from theory of relativity
And this gravitational time dilation
I'm actually watching a video on YouTube explaining 4D. I stopped when she says "Earth warps time"
 
Teleportation moves matter of an object/person instantly to another location. Think of Nightshade in X-Men, or Jumper, or Goku. A wormhole is a connection between two locations, think of Portal. A time warp is a wormhole that's connected to another plane of time, rather than just another plane of space.
 
mr5
7:43 AM
And I think I couldn't continue for now til I get the meaning of it. Lol
 
Gravitation influences time. Thus, time we experience on earth is different than time you'd experience in space. Satellites actually have their clocks adjusted every day to compensate for the minor difference. A larger gravity means more time delay inside that field. If you have a gravity that is 1000x of time more than earth, time goes significantly slower inside it.
 
mr5
@RoelvanUden oh, simply put, time warp is like the seek bar in video player?
 
its same. when you teleport to another space using wormhole, you get another spacetime
 
@mr5 Think of a door. You walk through the door and into another room. A wormhole would be connecting YOUR door to MY living room. A time warp would be connecting YOUR door to MY living room in 1980.
2
 
I found it
In the endgame
 
mr5
7:47 AM
@RoelvanUden so my seekbar analogy is wrong?
 
They opened a time travel portal for avengers
 
mr5
Oh, the final battle when all of the characters appear in one scene?
I think I get it now Roel
How about this one:
10 mins ago, by mr5
so what does it mean when someone says "Earth warps time" then?
 
4 mins ago, by Roel van Uden
Gravitation influences time. Thus, time we experience on earth is different than time you'd experience in space. Satellites actually have their clocks adjusted every day to compensate for the minor difference. A larger gravity means more time delay inside that field. If you have a gravity that is 1000x of time more than earth, time goes significantly slower inside it.
@mr5 Did you watch Star Trek Voyager (imdb.com/title/tt0708856)?
 
mr5
Nope
 
Voyager S06E12 "Blink of an eye", watch it. It basically explains the whole concept.
 
7:53 AM
Teleportation are position replacement without time change
Time travel are back/forward to the specific time without position change
But if you use wormhole, you will get both
 
mr5
watching it now. this one's 41 mins long though
 
Voyager is fun. Enjoy it :-)
 
mr5
ah shit, wrong video. lol
 
And we only having wormhole inside our human physics that can achieve teleportation or time travel
human physics != scifi
 
@mr5 Also, this:
> Time dilation is of practical importance. For instance, the clocks in GPS satellites experience this effect due to the reduced gravity they experience (making their clocks appear to run more quickly than those on Earth) and must therefore incorporate relativistically corrected calculations when reporting locations to users.
> If general relativity were not accounted for, a navigational fix based on the GPS satellites would be false after only 2 minutes, and errors in global positions would continue to accumulate at a rate of about 10 kilometers each day.
 
mr5
7:57 AM
@RoelvanUden why does the clock needs some adjustment? Isn't the internal vibrator (quartz) constant wherever you bring it?
 
time travel maybe too far from "time warp", our earth spacetime are distorted by earth gravity already is time warp
quartz vibration is constant, for the time
but time isnt constant, gravity affects time
 
mr5
@nyconing if I time travel far enough back in time, can it make me a fetus?
 
@mr5 That's the problem of gravity. We slow down because of the gravity of earth. That's time dilation. If you have two identical clocks, and put one on earth and one in orbit, the one of earth will tick every so slightly slower due to the gravity diluding time.
 
no, you should ask you can really time travel? first
 
Meeting time for me :-)
 
mr5
8:01 AM
@RoelvanUden so if I put my Intel Pentium 4 far enough from the Earth in the Galaxy, can it outrun my now core i7 8th gen?
Roel is going to meet himself, what?
Oh I get it now what does "Earth warps time" mean. It just slows down the time ffs xD
so Earth is like the center of a Gaussian blur
 
@mr5 no, earth's gravity is too little for time to outrun the difference Pentium 4 between i7
Earth warps time because earth has gravity, gravity warps time
gravity slow the time down
 
mr5
is planet's gravity directly proportional to its size
 
mass
planet's gravity are related to its mass... size doesnt matter
 
mr5
yeah I mean mass
damn it
ha! size really doesn't matter
 
8:17 AM
size does matter when measure gravity, if measure from outside of surface, it get lower reads
if you measure whole planet, size doesnt matter
 
mr5
human body can collapse when brought to a bigger gravity right? like in Jupiter?
 
@RoelvanUden neerd
 
gravity are king, he rules the space
 
mr5
but I thought, when you're in outer space, far enough from any planet, you'd have 0 gravity
 
infinitely close to zero
you might interested in few days ago human found dark matter are true by found the strong evidence
 
8:24 AM
o/
Any of you guys ever worked with Xamarin UI?
 
mr5
I got my first kpop group google search of the day "infinite zero"
@MwBakker yes there are people here that have worked with Xamarin
But I'm not sure what Xamarin UI means
 
I mean I heared of a testing tool that is called Xamarin UI
 
our temperature isnt have maximum value, but it have minimum value −273.15
no matter in universe can equal or lower than −273.15
 
mr5
0 result for the first page in Google
 
Xamarin.Forms UI?
 
8:28 AM
But it was told to me it could work on our desktop application as well
 
Xamarin.UITest
infinite zero = 00000000...
infinite close to zero = 1.0e-∞
 
mr5
some say 0+0+0+0+0...=1
@nyconing 0K
 
V.7
8:44 AM
?!
Wat?!
@mr5 wat?!
This has no sense
This is like nothing + nothing
 
mr5
summing up void would turn into non void according to some
 
Morning
 
@mr5 it would turn into Xzibit telling you what you are doing according to meme
 
V.7
Uh, you're about programming
I'm about maths
 
mr5
@V.7 yeah I know. I just read it somewhere. He said it's related to calculus.
 
8:46 AM
Can confirm 1 = 0.999999...
 
mr5
And since I understand nothing (0) about Calculus, I better keep my mouth shut about it.
 
V.7
@HéctorÁlvarez This is related to bitwise operations or such
 
if you repeat this ad-infinitum, then 1 = -(infinity)
@V.7 what do you mean?
@mr5 If I saw that many times, do you eventually know 1 calculus?
 
mr5
@MwBakker is it related about mumble rapping?
@HéctorÁlvarez I know how to spell Calculus. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Do you?
 
mr5
8:48 AM
Google tells me it is the right spelling though
 
@mr5 "Yo dawg, I heared you like voids, so I summed up a void in your void that turned into a non void, so you can void while you void in a non void"
 
mr5
So my knowledge about its spelling is all based from the assumption that Google is correct
@MwBakker oh it's the yo dawg meme lol
 
@mr5 Does it?
 
@HéctorÁlvarez oh no, hector has gone to the dark side
 
mr5
9:01 AM
I'm gonna make memes out of YT comment section
Or they will?
 
@Squirrelintraining fite me
 
@Wietlol Don't worry I have the Cleric's Candlestick
 
You faith-scrub.
 
mr5
@RoelvanUden do you think clock's time should be measured relative to its surface gravity?
 
@mr5 I don't understand the question.
 
mr5
9:12 AM
@RoelvanUden if time slows down with gravitational pull, and surface gravity is the "base line" of gravity, I thought that we should measure time with the current "altitude" in mind
 
-_-
 
When I have
var query = from x in l
            orderby x.A
            orderby x.B
            select x;
 
ah, C#
 
How do I make the x.A and x.B variable?
 
variable?
 
9:13 AM
Func<typeof(x), [whatHere]> ?
 
@mr5 To an observer, time is always progressing at the same speed. It's only when you have two observers each in their own time dilation that, when they compare their observed clocks, they even realize that time has progressed differently for them. It makes no sense for anything to try to track the influence of time dilation until you have two different time dilation fields (as is the case for earth and satellites, for example).
 
I want to pass a method instead of writing x.A
 
anything could go in the second
 
Or a string namign the property or something
 
mr5
@Squirrelkiller wrap them
 
9:14 AM
ideally something that implements IComparable<Self>
 
mr5
@Squirrelkiller like .Select(a => new { a.x, a.b })
 
@mr5 In a sci-fi story, where there's communication between people in different fields, it makes sense to talk about it. If you have story of a group of people setting off from earth and going to the other side of the galaxy to never return (e.g. Battlestar Galactica) then time dilution is a non-issue.
In Interstellar it's a main theme because they want to get information back to earth.
@mr5 Why this interest in all of this btw? :D
 
ahoy mateys o/
 
mr5
@RoelvanUden so I opened up YT and there's this guy who wrote many 2D games challenged by one of the commenters to make 3D game (he bet he couldn't so he prove him wrong). And from his 3D video game comment section (he actually learned to make badass 3D games in less than a week), someone challenged him to make a 4D game (which is actually confusing) so I landed there :D
 
I like the idea of time as 4th dimension for games...
 
mr5
9:20 AM
And I learned that the 4th dimension could mean different things
 
but in reality... not so much
 
mr5
Someone claimed they made a 4D game and I don't understand shit
 
I saw one a while back
 
mr5
@RoelvanUden it gets very confusing to me when you mixed this with travelling back in time.
 
which was basically a layered 2d isometric game, where you can control in which point in time you want to be on the map
so... a 2d game still...
 
mr5
9:23 AM
 
I suppose that means that it is a doubly layered 2d isometric game in some sorts
@mr5 and this is because time slows down? or because the material in the clocks have a more difficult time to actually work properly?
 
mr5
@RoelvanUden Imagine you're falling from the Burj Khalifa while watching your clock, it makes sense to make adjustment though
@Wietlol the one in the bottom are manufactured by Intel lol
 
this proof is just as valid as proof in statistics "100% of people that die, were born, so birth is the #1 cause of death"
 
Did you know
100% of people that drink water, die?
 
@mr5 It doesn't. To you, time is still constant.
 
mr5
9:26 AM
@Wietlol There's a disclaimer from the video that it doesn't really depicts it's entire definition. It's just a way to visualize it.
@RoelvanUden imagine there's a stick controlled by spaghetti monster from outer space. The spaghetti monster use this stick to relocate you from Earth and Moon back and forth while you observing the time in your phone. Do you think it still doesn't matter?
 
the closer you get to the speed of light, the slower you experience things
this is also true for clocks, while they count 1 second, in reality more than 1 second would have been passed, but the clock just thinks one second has passed
 
@RoelvanUden nah you'd win anyways :D
 
if you think you would be moved between earth and the moon for 10 minutes at almost the speed of light, we on earth would have moved on for centuries
does that mean time is slower for you? no, just your experience
the movement of your body just goes slower, the signals to your brain go slower, everything goes slower
a common example is of a train, which goes at half the speed of light
in that train is another train, which rides on a rails inside the first train
this train, when idle, would travel at half the speed of light (because the rails it is standing on is moving with that speed)
if that train would also go full speed... would that one have the full speed of light?
and if there was another train inside that second one, would that one be 1.5 times the speed of light?
matter slows down while moving
normally, we dont notice
but there is no movement across different times tho
 
mr5
@Wietlol and this slows down my aging process?
 
im not sure
depends on how the aging process works
I can imagine it would speed it up
 
mr5
9:39 AM
in the Interstellar, they depict that aging process would halted while travelling from a place with higher gravitational pull.
so I guess that's the current science we have
I wonder if us living things also have an internal clock that behaves similar to CPUs.
And it determines your aging process
I also found out in thermodynamics, there's thing called Spontaneous process which I believe determines how hot or cold a thing is or to classify the matter (S,L,G)
which I also believe contributes to the time of the aging process
@Wietlol interesting. if this is true and we can control the signals through our veins, I think we can also slow down the human aging process.
 
I dont think it will slow down tho
 
mr5
this is the 4th time I'm saying aging process
imagine if you travel in time 20 years from now, retaining all the memories you have in your brain, and suddenly your appearance looks 20 years from now in an instant.
 
I dont think your appearance is equal to your aging process
 
mr5
brain is like "hey, it's 2020 a few seconds ago, why is it 2040 now, I think my human needs wrinkles already"
I mean, you will look old
 
perhaps
perhaps not
I think you wouldnt look older, but your aging process would have sped up
 
mr5
9:57 AM
I think I'm having a grasp of how a blackhole behaves.
Time there is halted.
 
This is too deep for monday morning
 
so... lets go back to complaining how much boilerplate code we need in C#
 
mr5
back to roasting C# again
 
I need glasses because i can't C#
 
mr5
makes me think, other rooms for certain programming languages does not exist because it doesn't suck?
 
10:07 AM
That or it's so bad you have to refer to an actual book
 
@mr5 exactly
 
mr5
like that other guy who uses golang and he thinks his language lacks community and he didn't realize they don't need community to start from because golang is a masterpiece already.
 
uhm...
 
mr5
why would you need to discuss if it's easy enough for everyone to understand
 
a language has no community for one of the following reasons:
- no one uses it
- everyone just gets it and doesnt need help
Wietlang is fortunate enough to be both
 
10:08 AM
o/
 
mr5
it's always the latter
@Wietlol it's the third. "it does not exist"
@CaptainSquirrel it's already 6:10 PM. What are you talking about?
 
@mr5 Your clock is waaay too fast friend, Its actually 10:11am
see?
 
mr5
@CaptainSquirrel pleb, I'm living up here in mesosphere that's why the clock is faster here
 
lmao
not this again
 
mr5
and I can't see sharp ;)
btw, my eye is like that because too windy here
it's not a wink
@CaptainSquirrel I can inspect element too
 
10:14 AM
@mr5 inspect element? That's my computer clock friend
 
@mr5 It doesn't. To you, time is constant. When you get back to earth, you'll notice that the time has drifted from other humans. Whether that's a problem or not depends on the situation.
 
no
its actually 11.27am
period
 
its actually 1578911300
 
10:31 AM
How are you all so wrong
It's 1027
 
10:48 AM
So one of my bosses has asked me to look into the feasibility of finding all the pages on a website
and listing all the links on those pages
does anyone have any experience with anything similar?
My immediate thought was something with python, which looks like it will be the most feasible solution, but if theres a c# version then pls gib
I'm thinking of making use of sitemaps for the pages part, but it looks like there are multiple sitemaps
That take forever to load T_T
 
mr5
@CaptainSquirrel parse the html with regex. something like <a href\=.*
 
@mr5 I thought we all decided that parsing html with regex (apart from very very VERY specific cases), that it was a very bad idea
 
mr5
no.
everything is better with regex
esp. html
 
11:07 AM
@CaptainSquirrel a website crawler?
there should be tools for that
 
@Wietlol basically yeah
Basically i need to get all the page url's from a couple of client sites
as well as the links on the pages
 
@CaptainSquirrel scrapy.org
 
Aye, that's what i'm looking at
something something python
 
something something .net
 
hm
that .net one looks like lots of work
lmao
 
11:11 AM
well... you could use Kotlin and use jsoup
but...
this is also .net github.com/sjdirect/abot
I havent got any experience with them (apart from jsoup, which I use for Wietbot), but it looks like you should be fine with some of those
 
I mean I was just gunna start playing around with scrapy
Granted i've not used python for like 5 years
So this should be ...interesting
 
I started using TS for some stuff now...
I am not pleased...
at least it is better than lua
 
11:39 AM
java soup
 
!~shiba
 
he is a good boy
 
@mr5 not sure. I somehow found it the first time, now I couldn't but I remembered it exists. :D
 
mr5
@MichałZegan which convo is this?
 
11:44 AM
you asked me about how I found some stuff like a chat.
 
12:13 PM
@CaptainSquirrel Scraping? I've done way too much scraping.
 
@RoelvanUden oooo fancy
I've come to some conclusions about how their sites work
At the moment i'm trying to find an ideal way of comparing xml's
 
I've got one tip for you. One and only one. Whatever you do: use a goddamn headless webbrowser instead of HTTP-based tooling.
 
duh?
 
Well that scraps HAP
Even though they supposedly support that
 
12:15 PM
It scraps just about every tool. There's nothing as annoying as having to deal with content that is different from what a web browser would be show you. Most notably execution of JS is absolutely mandatory in page scraping nowadays.
@ABuckau It's not as obvious as you might think ;-)
 
Aye, i considered that
 
I tend to use JS/TS most for this, so I ended up with Google's puppeteer and a headless Chromium.
Works like a charm.
 
holy shit my current project is 60k words
 
130 pages on google docs
 
12:16 PM
@Roel you overestimate my expectations
 
@ABuckau Really?
 
I might take a look at puppeteer slightly later
If i can get this sitemap comparison to work, That's one less thing to worry about
 
mr5
12:44 PM
@AlRey you're qualified to make an essay
 
what kind of essay??~
 
mr5
school essays
 
bruh
 
mr5
lol
do you plan to sell it?
 
I plan to put this on my website (once the website is finished ^-^')
keep an eye out for autorisedomain.wordpress.com
 
mr5
12:48 PM
why not your own domain?
 
cause I know wordpress and I don't wanna pay just yet
once I do pay, I'm cutting that wordpress right out of the url
 
mr5
Looks like a banner for movie
 
speaking of The Domain -- check out what someone drew for me hehe
 
Hello ppl :)
 
Hi Dr. Nik!
 
mr5
12:52 PM
@AlRey looks like the hunchback
 
she's just an innocent droid
 
HaL lo
 
nah but srsly...this is how I ended off yesterday:
`In a last-ditch effort, Willow, short of breath from the run, grabbed a toaster and flung it, as well -- for it to make a direct hit with the shoulder Willow had stabbed earlier.
Angela screamed, but did not stop completely. She prepared to strike from above.
Unable to hide behind anything else, Willow held the keyboard in front of her head, quivering as the staff cut through it. Keys clambered to the floor at the same time the staff continued its path downward until finally striking Willow's foot.
 
I just saw a post who's author had 1157k rep
took me a minute to actually see it was Jon Skeet
 
and then my co-author's like "aw come on don't leave me on a cliffhanger like that ;-;"
 
1:20 PM
Your co-author doesn't know the direction of the story?
 
@CaptainSquirrel They gotta implement the xM rep for Skeet
1.2M rep
 
or make a switch case: < 1M : return value.ToString; > 1M : return "It's Jon Skeet you know...";
 
oh hey the new icon kicked in already
@RoelvanUden oh she does; she knows full-well her OC isn't gonna die, but what I haven't told her is how the chara's gonna get out of it
wait actually...yes I have; idk why she's acting that way now
 
mr5
@ntohl < 1M => pleb
 
1:37 PM
@ntohl rep == 1_000_000
now you ded
 
git gud
 
oh dear, you are dead!
 
@CaptainSquirrel 1156k tho
you shouldnt round these up
> requirements: 1157000 rep
current rep: 1157k
status: not allowed
people would be furious
 
@Wietlol var actualRep = 999_995; AddRepForUpvote(actualRep);. Dodged a bullet
 
2:28 PM
Anyone know why an IP address would be bound to a different cert then the hostnames with the same application id. it's in IIS
nm think I found it
bla 4hrs of searching
 
Often mistaken for rubber ducks
 
you can never have too many rubber ducks
 
user10864482
good day to yall, fellow member of the binary council
 
user10864482
@juanvan wildcard certificate?
 
ya. moving from a domain specific
 
user10864482
 
user10864482
make sense?
 
user10864482
I discovered rimworld this weekend. Needless to say I played numberless hours, dying or suffering bad choice over and over. I love it
 
2:54 PM
Hi folks, could you tell my whether or not my understanding below correct?

Every time a client navigates to an URL handled by an action method of a controller, the asp.net core framework will instantiate a new controller object it means the same action method can be invoked just once per controller object life time. Is it correct? Please ping me if you respond this question.
 
@human
 

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