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3:01 PM
one example is our code review tool, review assistant. for 5 users it's $10, for 10 users it's $350
 
Anyone know how to see the stored procedures being called?
 
i'm on a team of 4 devs, a designer, and our supervisor
 
@Greg where?
like entity?
 
Inside SQL Server Management Studio.
 
@ton.yeung Well, no
 
3:02 PM
but then someone would be left out in their own account
 
This is my point :P
 
are you calling them from c#
or SSIS
 
I was in trace and it wasn't letting me see specific Stored Procedure calls.
 
Don't wanna have to learn Node and Angular just to host on Linux
 
intellitrace should show you
 
3:03 PM
I do need to learn Node and Angular but that's a separate issue xD
Maybe for you
Angular is learningcurve++
And so is Node
No.
 
Node is super ez.
 
Hahahaha
WOOOOOO
I'll get there one day. Gonna buy a Pluralsight membership so I can get some decent support material
Cos I find self teaching difficult due to brain issues.
 
tried angular, just can't seem to find it easy enough to follow
its the same with javascript in general for me but that is due to me not treating it like a real language (which it definitely is)
 
angular knowledge... it controls stuff in a tag with a ng-app attribute. and everything angular begins with ng-
 
Angular appears to me to be one of those things that's so hard it doesn't seem worth the time 'getting it', but once you get it it's totally worth it because of how powerful it is.
 
3:06 PM
and you use angular?
how does that work? everytime i try to learn angular the first thing said is that angular apps start with ng
 
now a new JS framework is coming out aurelius or something like that
 
@ton.yeung Is the best you can do though is Filter on the Text Data / Login Name?
 
@RoelvanUden teech me senpai
 
isn't that what the ng-app is? a bootstrapper?
 
problem with JS frameworks is if it takes you too long to learn it by the time you master it its too late anyway because something else is now more popular
 
3:07 PM
facedesk
ah, i see
 
@ton.yeung I disabled a bunch, thank you.
 
@ton.yeung hopefully because thats on my "try that shit again" list
 
@ton.yeung I couldn't fully recall.
 
i'm not real good with the concept of bootstrapping in javascript - which i partially blame on Bootstrap cluttering up my searches for more information
 
@ton.yeung cool, now its on my "Definitely try that shit again" list
 
3:13 PM
alright
so i'm off to tinker with angular
 
what about kendo ui?
 
@ton.yeung Angular with C# based back end or MEAN?
 
different beast?
 
Does it even matter?
 
@ton.yeung web.config just because
 
3:14 PM
@Failsafe Oh lord that avatar.
Scary
 
idk where its from
but i use it for everything
 
Lol
 
from the deepest pits of hell
 
What's usually E
 
i gotta install linux when i get home
i havent installed it at home in years
 
3:15 PM
Oh Express
the fuck is express
 
mostly to avoid ubuntu 11
 
Node Web framework I GET IT
I'm not learning that.
:D
Ah right
 
@ton.yeung Idk i've been through a fair share of drives in the past 5 years
and i keep reinstalling OS's onto new drives
i would rather do node on linux than windows
i hate cygwin
so goddamn much
 
lel
What's wrong with cygwin xD
 
i thought node on windows ran a cygwin CLU
 
3:17 PM
I use node in Windows
no problems
 
node runs on windows without problem
 
its not the nativeness of it or anything
its the UI
 
wait... node has UI?
 
i dont like cygwin
or the windows cmd
 
you can use powershell if you like
 
3:20 PM
thats even worse
 
...
powershell ISE ?
 
well... can you define what you mean by "worse"? powershell seems to be the most capable and customizable command line tool i ever used
 
its gonna sound wierd but i am better with tcsh than bash
@tweray that may be but i dont like using it
 
any reason NOT to use EF?
 
well what am i comparing it to, ADO?
 
3:25 PM
sure, just looking for cons though
 
lots of overhead, dbfirst is more painful than code first
 
so yeah, make it EF v ADO if you want
 
yuss get rekt visual studio
 
@ton.yeung if not .net then what?
for performance critical apps
 
assembly
 
3:28 PM
gotcha
 
6502
 
haha
i hate that
although i understand
 
Using lower-level languages doesn't magically improve performance
 
but it do dramatically drain more sanity from you
 
3:30 PM
no you have to do that yourself
 
Hey I know this is kind of off-topic, but I can't find any Excel rooms. Is anyone an Excel guru here?
 
no were programmers not idiots business analysts
 
XD
any idea what it's called? i'll keep looking
oh, super user?
 
@MacSigler what was it about Excel you need to know?
 
alright, pray for me while I vacation to the dark side :P
@Squiggle I have an inventory workbook
one sheet has entries, e.g. Aisle 1 Section 1 Top Row Left Position, 12 Quantity, Description
 
3:34 PM
@ton.yeung i have no workbook
 
another sheet has just the most current stuff for that position
I need to find a way to grab the latest entry for that particular position
 
excel sheets are databases
 
so it needs to match all the criteria then grab the quantity and description
 
Generics that can be an object or nullable primitive without the
>The type 'TValue' must be a non-nullable value type in order to use it as parameter 'T' in the generic type or method 'System.Nullable<T>'
error?
 
Unfortunately my boss has no database and I'm not 1337 enough (or given enough time enough) to make one
 
3:36 PM
Is that possible? It feels like it has to be but I'm not finding anything.
 
he's using an invalid T-Value
it'd probably be easiest to debug with a short example
maybe the prototype
 
interface IKeyValueMap<TKey, TValue>
{
    TValue Default { get; }
    void Search(TKey searchValue, out TValue? exactMatchValue, out KeyValuePair<TKey, TValue>? lowBound, out KeyValuePair<TKey, TValue>? highBound);
}
 
@ton.yeung not familiar with code first
 
The compiler is complaining about out TValue? exactMatchValue
 
yes
because it's nullable
>The type 'TValue' must be a non-nullable value type in order to use it as parameter 'T' in the generic type or method 'System.Nullable<T>'
 
3:38 PM
No, I understand the error
I'm saying, how can that parameter be something the can be either a nullable primitive or object reference?
Compile
I think it's TValue: class but would that box primitives?
Yes
That's exactly the problem
 
@ton.yeung i think this is what i need support.google.com/docs/answer/3093343?hl=en
 
Essentially searching for a value in a dictionary. If it's not found, return the next highest and next lowest values.
 
apparently booth Excel and Google Sheets support querying
also one of my coworkers made my keyboard sticky
this saddens me :(
 
@MacSigler @ton.yeung this might actually be one of the scenarios where I would suggest using Access
THERE I SAID IT
 
@Squiggle again, no time/expertise :P
It's a long-term goal
but the boss wants something now
as they always do
@ton.yeung LOL trying
 
3:47 PM
Eh. It's the right tool for the job, and would take perhaps 10 minutes to import the data and 5 mins to write a SQL query :)
 
this is actually more of a temp job
got layed off and in transition, at least i'm working in the meantime
it happens
dice?
 
dice.com ?
 
not familiar with dice
 
i thought dice was more a "hire cheap labor overseas" kinda deal
 
umm I dont really identify as IT but i guess
yeah
semantics i guess
 
3:49 PM
no i mean, hire cheap labor overseas and bring them to the US, not freelance stuff
 
i think of IT as more like networking and database guys
or the 'fix my printer' people lol
i guess it's blurring though
 
ewww. Hardware.
 
@MacSigler me too actually...i don't like the term IT for programming, "I don't unplug and plug cables for a living!"
 
Like I said, I think it's mostly semantics
I've got a few recruiters after me I just haven't been able to get back to them yet
although I had a bad experience with my last recruiter
I got fired from that job after 2 weeks because they didn't want to train me and they didn't want to pay the recruiter LOL
i'm in this awkward position where I have the basic skills but not all the fancy APIs and stuff people want, but my first job was a braindead coding position
so i'm not quite entry level but not much better ;_;
 
^ yep. I got stunk similarly with my first job. It turned out to be dodgy as hell, and I walked out after 3 months.
I should have asked questions and not been so quick to jump into the role
 
3:53 PM
@ton.yeung i was also desperate to get out of my first job since i had bad blood with the manager
yeah
it's also hard because i have a wife and three kids
only for the baby
he's coming up on a year so wife will drop off
other 2 are grown now so no WIC for them
LOL we're in Texas, remember?
I barely get food stamps even at this place earning $40k
texas is really stingy with welfare
yeah i'm hoping i can find something better soon
I figure I can get a position for at least $55-60k somewhere
well yeah
like I said I've been working pretty much entry level
I've just had very bad luck
and every time training opportunities come up they fall through
UG?
no
eh, idk
I'm not really big into programming outside of work
I also am uncomfortable around people I don't know usually
I should probably come up with some sort of pet project
I just don't have any inspiration for it
I have no passion
 
@ton.yeung when I do where TValue : struct I get compiler errors when I try to use it with non-value types.
This seems silly. I can't be the only person who needs to do this.
Might be more SOLID but less DRY. The logic for either case is exactly the same.
And actually, that wouldn't work. The parameter always needs to be nullable.
I don't see how that solves the problem - it just moves it. (Sorry, I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, I don't understand what you're getting at)
So there's a wrapper object with properties instead of out params
They still need to be generic and still need to be nullable.
There's four possible results here - the search value is found. Then the exact match value is used and high/low bound are null.
The search value is not found but is is within the range of the collection. High and low bound are populated with the next highest and lowest values respectively, exact match is null
Search value is smaller than everything in the collection - high bound is the smallest value, other two are null
And the reverse for search value > than everything in the collection
That's what I'm trying to avoid. As it stands that's the recommended solution. I feel like this isn't that crazy a thing to need to do.
So add a out bool exactMatchFound property to the method
No, I get what you're saying.
Like I said, I just feel like there should be some way for a generic type to hold either nullable value types or reference types. But I guess I'm wrong.
:-/
:) I can respect that
 
4:31 PM
hey kids
 
hey dinosaur
 
rawr
 

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