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8:03 PM
VPN, Nexion?
 
I have a virtual network connection with my VMWare box.
It shows wired, but only when I'm not on wifi.
 
Nope, no VPN
 
Long Live Cowboys
 
can I reverse the area of a Range Bar Chart ? Say I have a range bar chart, the area below the specified Points is shaded with the area of the range. Can I have the top half shaded instead of the bottom ?
nvm, find something
found*
 
8:50 PM
 
@Nexion VMWare/VirtualBox network drivers?
 
@TravisJ Still around?
 
9:09 PM
can anyone think of a reason why you would specify the "size" parameter to be -1 here?
parameters.Add("@productTransformIDs", SqlDbType.VarChar, -1)
 
The best one I can think of is to specify 'unknown' for a varchar.
I have no idea what it does.
 
@kush Wow, they took windows vista approach to screens
 
@Pheonixblade9 is this for SqlParameterCollection?
looks undocumented
 
Ryan, there is another one as well.
 
Eve
@kush I don't use facebook but what's there to notice?
Except the exciting jpeg artifacts.
 
9:20 PM
Isn't it fake?
 
I guess the A/B tests
@LewsTherin no, it is not
neither is this one
 
Fake
 
I don't know how I can convince you
 
I want to cancel Facebook anyway...
But they won't let me..
 
Good.
you can deactivate it
I have done it several times
 
Eve
9:21 PM
So have you noticed how brands usually alternate between colorful and empty, vivid and minimalist, rounded and squared, gradient and solid?
 
@RyanTernier, you are well versed in MVC right?
 
Eve
I wonder what will be the next direction, in terms of style, taken by Microsoft.
Now it's solid colors, minimalism, tiles, etc.
 
your Microsoft?
yes, you can have it
 
Eve
Typo
 
It is -1 for maximum size.
 
9:23 PM
Wtf.. is the ping not working anymore?
 
@LewsTherin What's your question?
@Eve Microsoft is copying Mine Craft.
@Eve In fact, with windows 8, you can play minecraft within minecraft.
 
@Lews - I am now
 
@RyanTernier When passing a model into an action.. do I only have to specify the model in the top section @model SomeModel
 
Eve
Makes sense.
 
@RyanTernier That's old news.
 
9:24 PM
@RyanTernier Hey dawg, I heard you liked minecraft..
 
@TravisJ Hey, look below your reply..
 
@Pheonixblade9 - I use -1 sometimes when I want to have a value which represents null.
@Lews - I think you have your naming mixed up. Do you mean when passing the model into a view?
 
@LewsTherin The @model someModel tells the view that's the model that it will be getting from the controller.
 
^
 
9:26 PM
@RyanTernier Yep, that's what I was thinking.. but what if the View passes a model into an action?
 
Welp, that's pretty depressing.
 
@TravisJ Nope, that's exactly what I meant.. if the View passes a model into an action how do I specify it?
 
The view cannot pass a model into the action, but it can pass a query string from a form into an action. In that case, the action should accept (SomeModel model)
 
When you "Submit" your view, MVC will take your querystring, or form data, and all that lovable stuff, and route it to a controller, hoping to bind it to a model
 
Ah, I see.. what is this technique called so I can read up on it?
 
9:28 PM
hell: // If you ever use this label, you can goto hell;
 
A view "could" submit multiple types of "models" to a controller/action
@kendoll hell: no
 
hell: yeah
 
the values will be mapped from the name attribute on the input field to the name of the property in the accepting model. So if you have a List<Car> Cars, then the name on the input would be name="Cars[0].Make" for the first Car's Make.
@Lews - It is known as model binding
 
@TravisJ But for that to work.. I must specify the model in the View right?
 
@LewsTherin And for the love of God, don't overload the default modelbinding if you don't know what you're doing.
 
9:30 PM
@TravisJ Thanks
 
Nope, that model can be different
 
@LewsTherin No.
@Lews the model in the view is what the View is expecting
 
You can send in a List<int>, and send back a List<Car> if you want.
 
It let's you use : Model.
 
Say I'm creating a textbox @Html.TextBoxFor(model => model.UserName), that will bind the textbox to the correct property because I specified the type of the model..
I thought that's how it worked anyway
 
9:32 PM
That is because your action accepts public string UserName { get; set; }
 
0 2 3 4 5 5 _ <-- What's next?
 
@Lews You're correct. You could also do:
< input type="text" name="UserName" />

and that "could" bind to the model in the action as well
 
@KendallFrey 4
 
It is either public ActionResult someAction (string UserName) or you have UserName defined inside of a class as mentioned in my previous comment.
 
9:33 PM
7 8 9?
 
Nope.
 
Mmn, alright thanks both of you ;)
 
liar
 
@KendallFrey 5?
 
I fail
 
9:33 PM
@KendallFrey an integer.
 
@KyleTrauberman Lol
 
The next one is 7. What comes after that?
 
How can I detect that an ajax call has fully rendered it's html?
 
...
i said 7.
 
@TravisJ onsuccess? Or some crap
 
9:34 PM
$(function(){}); does not work
 
Yeah, but 8 9 doesn't come after 7.
 
onsuccess wont work either, because it has the data, but it has not yet fully rendered.
 
@TravisJ That is an alias for document.ready but hey aren't you the the javascript expert? :P
@TravisJ Oh.. onload?
 
I tried that too
 
Dang..
 
9:35 PM
I am just a javascript peddler trying to get by in the world :P
 
11, 13
 
nope
 
17 19 23 29 31 37 43
 
@TravisJ how are you rendering the html?
 
are you not doing sum of prime numbers?
 
9:36 PM
0 2 3 4 5 5 7 6 _
 
@Kyle - a view is returned with razor syntax in it
 
Tonight I tried to make a nice utility app for you guys, I failed, will continue tomorrow!
 
/fire Kendall
 
@RyanTernier What?
 
@TravisJ right, but the ajax call returns html to the js script, which renders it how?
$selector.html(data); ?
 
9:37 PM
yeah
 
0, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 7, 6, 6, 7, 11, 7, 13, 9, 8
 
@TravisJ so why not just call your own function after making that call to .html()?
 
why all the numbers?
 
@RyanTernier Win.
 
9:38 PM
@Kyle yea
 
@Kyle - Well, a lot of views call this partial view. And it would be nice if it could self manage.
 
@TravisJ i'm confused. what do you mean by self manage?
 
Boredom averted.
 
I'm still trying to figure out what the point of those numbers are ;)
 
Anyone else have one?
 
9:39 PM
your returned html contains js that you want executed after its rendered?
 
I figured out why it isn't working actually.
The problem is that it fades in, and so while fading in it technically is not displayed and so I cannot access what I need.
 
how are you fading it in?
 
so this is chat
 
boredom restored
 
hahahaha
 
9:40 PM
lol
4 messages moved to recycle bin
 
$introduce @Nacht
 
anyone on here work with sharepoint?
 
var pT = div;
pt.Hide;
pt.appendChild(ajaxDiv);
$(ajaxDiv).html(result);
$(pT).fadeIn();
 
@Nacht Welcome to the C# room! Please read the wiki.
 
9:41 PM
@RyanTernier WHAT DID YOU SAY???
 
I've been invited yay...
 
Unfortunately, the last I checked, the wiki was still down.
 
I failed at quoting
 
@TravisJ fadeIn() has a success call back that you can use to determine when its done fading.
 
the wiki is sitll down
so i can break all the rules
 
9:42 PM
ahem @KyleTrauberman
 
out of ignorance
 
I cannot count on that, but I think I can get around it by sniffing to see if there is an fx event attached to the parent of the current element I am trying to work with.
 
room topic changed to C#: Good Morning -- the wiki is on sabatical [.net] [asp.net] [asp.net-mvc] [c#] [entity-framework] [linq] [visual-studio] [wcf] [wpf]
 
"sorry officer, your speed camera is broken, so I went 200mph"
 
@Nacht like the rule to spell correctly?
 
9:42 PM
@Nacht @KyleTrauberman does.
 
is that rule on the wiki?
 
Yes.
Sort of, at least.
 
your mother is on the wiki
2
HAH!
 
then yes
 
reddit.com/r/im14andthisisfunny
 
9:43 PM
anyways, there's no sharepoint chatroom so...
 
The first rule of the wiki, is we don't talk about the wiki.
 
@Nacht yes, she is a kind and generous woman
 
@TravisJ SHUT UP YOU'RE BREAKING THE RULES
 
room topic changed to C#: Kyle still hasn't fixed the wiki. [.net] [asp.net] [asp.net-mvc] [c#] [entity-framework] [linq] [visual-studio] [wcf] [wpf]
 
@Nacht thats because sharepoint has its own site : sharepoint.stackexchange.com
 
9:43 PM
@Pheonixblade9 - The second rule of the wiki is..
 
@Pheonixblade9 you're confusing wookie and wiki
 
Who the hell starred me for that? Hahahaha
 
room topic changed to C#: Kyle still hasn't fixed the wiki. | Kyle doesn't do PHP [.net] [asp.net] [asp.net-mvc] [c#] [entity-framework] [linq] [visual-studio] [wcf] [wpf]
 
@KyleTrauberman can you refresh the star leaderboard?
 
room topic changed to C#: Kyle still hasn't fixed the wiki. | Kyle doesn't do PHP (anymore) [.net] [asp.net] [asp.net-mvc] [c#] [entity-framework] [linq] [visual-studio] [wcf] [wpf]
 
9:44 PM
yeah but it's not active...
 
@Pheonixblade9 perhaps...
 
~tl/dr where is the news bot that Kendall made?
 
I think I'm up to #5
 
~tl/dr Kyle gives up the fifth, incriminates himself.
 
room topic changed to C#: I'd tell you to read the wiki, but it's down. The error message is pretty good though. [.net] [asp.net] [asp.net-mvc] [c#] [entity-framework] [linq] [visual-studio] [wcf] [wpf]
$news kush tried to revive the news feature.
 
9:45 PM
room topic changed to C#: I'd tell you to read the wiki, but it's down. The error message is pretty good though. csharp-room-wiki.azurewebsites.net/index.php?title=Main_Page [.net] [asp.net] [asp.net-mvc] [c#] [entity-framework] [linq] [visual-studio] [wcf] [wpf]
 
$n
kush tried to revive the news feature.
 
room topic changed to C#: I'd tell you to read the wiki, but it's down. The error message is pretty good though. goo.gl/sw1w5 [.net] [asp.net] [asp.net-mvc] [c#] [entity-framework] [linq] [visual-studio] [wcf] [wpf]
 
Still works XD
 
room topic changed to C#: Kyle still hasn't fixed the wiki, Kendall is still stalking Jon Skeet while Kyle chases after him trying to script PHP. [.net] [asp.net] [asp.net-mvc] [c#] [entity-framework] [linq] [visual-studio] [wcf] [wpf]
 
Eve
Why isn't [tag-name:winforms] a tag in the title?
How do you do a tag again...
 
9:47 PM
because winforms sucks
 
we don't do legacy stuff in here
unless we have to
 
Which is also why isn't on there.
 
@RyanTernier you liar.
 
OH SHIT JON SKEET IS CONFUSED
2
Joy - NCrunch tests are now failing in Noda Time with an InvalidProgramException. Running tests from R# works. I'm very confused.
 
9:47 PM
FUCK FUCK FUCK RUNNNN
NO WONDER MY CODE WORKS
 
Eve
Is Jon Skeet actually generally considered one of the of the most knowledgeable people about C# or is it some kind of inside joke?
 
BAD EVE! DOWN ! BAD!
 
he's the top user on SO.
he has the most rep
 
It's half meme, half real.
 
Eve
I've noticed as much.
About the rep, I mean.
 
9:49 PM
He has a blog post about it.
 
also, he's a Microsoft MVP in C#
even though he uses Java in his day job.
Jon Skeet is a very confusing creature.
 
He's a extremely smart man, tactful, and is one of the top authorities on how/what/why/when C# works
@KyleTrauberman I thought Google brought him on board to help get C# working on Android
or at least let C# compile to the Android iL
 
he works on Google Offers
 
@Ryan - Nope, he actually came in here and told us :D
 
Eve
But there are many C# book authors, people who actually develop(ed) the language and the framework (not the .NET extensions, the BCL and FCL).
 
Dec 30 '12 at 22:15, by Jon Skeet
@Billdr: I work on Google Offers, writing Java for the backend.
 
@Eve Eric Lippert, for example, knows more about implementation details than Jon.
Since he used to be the head of the C# compiler team.
 
was he the head?
I thought he was just on the team.
 
Pretty sure.
 
Was Jon on the C# Team?
 
9:51 PM
no
i don't think he's ever worked for MS
 
Eve
Thanks for the explanation, his article on his blog pins it well.
 
we should make Lippert an owner, maybe it was that that made Skeet pop in?
 
Eve
Besides that, either he types really quick, either he has a set of pre-made answers.
 
donezors
 
Eve
9:53 PM
What about that guy with the nice beard?
Hans Passant I suppose?
I liked the fact that he had 314k reputation, 314 is a nice number. But he has 315 now.
 
@Eve I would like Hans to review my code!
Hans would not like it though :)
 
not cool imo ^
 
They never come here. Why should they be owners?
 
because the community wants them to be owners
 
9:55 PM
because that could make them come?
 
How?
 
it wont' make them come here
I did get eric to come here by posting a comment on a blog post of his though
he just idled :(
 
maybe maybe not Skeet showed up days after Travis added him
 
@KyleTrauberman dies laughing
 
9:56 PM
travis added him after he got here
 
sure? @TravisJ?
 
There is only one reason Jon Skeet came here IMO.
HAT
 
haha yup
he knew just showing up would get him a hat
 
He hates us all.
@KyleTrauberman Well, not quite, but just showing up will get him stars anyway.
 
Eve
I think that the hat appeared because Jon came here, rather.
2
 
9:58 PM
I added him after he came.
In fact, Jon Skeet came in here on accident.
 
stars == hat on the day he showed up, so it was for the hat
accident?
 
He had a rather long string of comments on an answer. The comments were automatically migrated to the C# chat room, thus joining Jon Skeet. When he noticed, he left. But then, I think because he felt bad about just skipping out, he came back and talked for a while and hung out for like 30 minutes.
 
The link clearly says that it will take you to chat.
Also, the comments don't get put in an existing chat room.
 
It was done by a mod.
 
10:01 PM
What. The. Fuck.
...was he smoking?
 
/shrug
 
OMG SLEIGH
 
lol, that is still funny
 
are you sure? it looks like @CCInc just pasted a bunch of permalinks
Dec 30 '12 at 21:57, by CC Inc
in Discussion between Freddy and Jon Skeet, Dec 27 at 14:25, by Jon Skeet
@Freddy: Well it would have to interfere with the underlying stream - otherwise it couldn't get the data. But I would say that the enumerator enumerates the file, not a stream. This is the approach that LINQ takes all over the place - the query is just the representation of the query; no data is fetched (and GetEnumerator isn't called) until it's required. The whole problem here is that the reader is being created earlier than it should, IMO. If each call to GetEnumerator created a new reader, all would be well.
 
@TravisJ lol, no it's not
 
Eve
10:02 PM
 
@KendallFrey is the room owner police.
 
@KyleTrauberman then why am I not a room owner?
 
you are
 
@Kyle - Yup, I am certain. The "in Discussion" link was to this chat room and it was roughly 3 days prior to when we noticed he was in the room.
 
10:04 PM
@TravisJ hmm
 
You will notice something is missing though, if you follow the in Discussion link then you get a page not found
 
I don't see anything bad with adding all 100k+ as owners, they should get a notification at least and maybe click it
 
No notification.
 
@TravisJ because that room was deleted
 
10:05 PM
nooow... what do I get to do as an owner? This is an empty title, isn't it/
 
Shhh.
 
@Kyle - It was in this room. You could see it in the transcript.
 
hmm
ok
awww.
I can't make @Feeds an owner
:(
 
...
 
10:07 PM
aww
 
it would be nice if we could get C# to be more like c++ with a lot of high reps, dunno how tho
 
Someone has had too much 'happy incense'.
 
happy incense?
 
inside joke, but still funny.
This guy was joking about smoking his happy incense.
@JohanLarsson Start answering questions.
 
yesterday C++ was actually reasonably nice to me
but only because @zoidberg was in the room
 
10:09 PM
@KendallFrey lol actually I answered one today, even think I got it right
 
I just realized it's 5:09. Shit.
 
overtime?
 
Something something something about having to go pick up girlfriend something something
 
I didn't do anything in the last 10 minutes anyway.
 
@kush elaborate?
 
10:11 PM
yesterday, by Rudi Visser
OH SHIT I GOTTA GO PICK MY GF UP
 
I do not know what is girlfriend
 
ah the rubber fist affair
 
@KendallFrey this
yesterday, by Pheonixblade9
@kush twist: his GF is his hand, he's still at his desk
 
Oh, I am familar with hand tx
 
10:13 PM
@KendallFrey no, not thing. Thing is innocent.
 
hehehe. I'm feckin highlareeus
 
Thing T. Thing, referred to as just Thing (It's also stated the T. stands for "Thing"), is a fictional character in the The Addams Family. Thing was originally portrayed as a whole person (always seen in the background watching the family, but never getting noticed or shown fully), but was changed to a disembodied hand for the television series. In Spanish-speaking countries he was named Dedos ("Fingers") and in German-speaking countries "das eiskalte Händchen" (the little ice-cold hand); while in Portuguese-speaking countries he was named Mãozinha ("Little Hand") when not called "Coisa"...
 
I am not understand
 
@Pheonixblade9 as kendall would say ... happy incense?
 
@Pheonixblade9 when will you get your italics?
 
10:17 PM
When you refresh.
 
When in doubt, F5.
 
@JohanLarsson my italics?
 
@KyleTrauberman reboot?
 
only if refresh doesn't work
 
Eve
10:18 PM
I think I've already said it but clearing the cache makes it so that every user who posts a new message shows up with a blank avatar.
Is that something... Normal?
 
@Pheonixblade9 the font but it was client side
 
Eve
I don't know how this chat works, but does it need to access the cache for each downloaded message?
 
@eve the avatars are downloaded from gravatar
 
Eve
ok
 
Unfortunately, gravatars are not as hansom as my moustache.
 
10:34 PM
Hello World, i am reading main.db (Skype History File) with C# SQLite but it asks me to change .NET 2.0 =) why it does not work for 4.0 ? any ideas
 
is it possible to attach a callback to an event in progress in jquery?
I managed to locate the element which is fading, but stop does not seem to affect it, and I am at a loss of how to access this event.
 
is the fading element loaded via the ajax?
 
no
 
or was it on the page when it was loaded?
 
it is hidden, and then in the ajax success it fades in
 
I managed to locate it from the partial view by looking for the hidden attribute. But I cannot for the life of me figure out how to bypass the fade, or just wait until it completes.
 
@RyanTernier thanx Ryan exactly what i was searching for
 
@TravisJ how are you attempting attaching the event?
 
hm, apparently I do not have access to the element =/ I think I returned it wrong
nope, that wasn't it
@Kyle - I attempted to override the event, by using $(fxEl).stop(true,true), I also tried $(fxEl).show();
$(fxEl).remove(); works =/
agh, got it :D
 
@KyleTrauberman huh?
 
10:48 PM
@CCInc it was gf using the computer earlier dunno why she was trolling c++
 
huh
?
when
 
CC my nam
*man
 
hey kush!
sorry on tablet
 
@CCInc I got a notification today at work that you pinged me, chat is blocked at work so must have been gf using the computer at home
 
Egyptians had tablets
 
10:50 PM
@JohanLarsson I dont think I did today, but i may have...
 
You don't mess with Johan's stack overflow account ... unless you are Johan's girlfriend
 
@TravisJ did you being your brother today? There are two almost identical green things in the list if users.
 
I have no brother...
 
Don't disown me, brother. You are my keeper.
 
@kush Bible?
 
10:58 PM
sorry
couldn't resist
 
why sorry? Nice words, not sure I understand them though :)
 

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