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1:00 PM
as an intern i make 42k/year :) wooooo
 
which country is that?
 
usa
 
wow thats pretty good
 
R$1500 that is equivalent to $735 that is equivalent to €607
 
whats R$?
 
1:01 PM
yeah but you can't really compare salaries between USA and Europe
you have way more stuff to pay with your salary in the US
 
R$ = Reais, the money we use in Brazil
 
@Baboon thats true
 
ah okay
 
for example i had about 2k€ medical expense this last year
and I really paid 0€
 
but you pay more in taxes right?
 
1:03 PM
yeah
 
like what % are you taxed based on your income?
 
I think it averages out in the end
 
im at like 25% right now
 
i'm taxed around 35-40% of what I earn
 
wow thats a lot lol
 
1:03 PM
it's not much in France, it's average
it's a very taxed country
 
yeah but wasn't france rated the best country to live in or something
 
if you're really rich, you're taxed all the way up to 75%
 
like the least stress or something like that, i read an article about it
 
but it's really more complicated than that, want the full version of WHY they tax?
 
france maybe was second to sydney :)
 
1:04 PM
the more money you get, the more you're taxed
 
yeah thats how it works in the US too
 
that's because they want the money to come back in the French economy
and they provide plans for the richest
where they invest in french capital, and the money invested can be deduced from taxes
 
ahh
 
which means, for example, my parents bought a house at the countryside
they followed a special plan
that if they follow rules, and they rebuild it the way it was
then rent it for at least 9 years to local people at an average rate
not too low rent, not too high
they can deduce 90% of the cost from taxes
the house was practically free
 
wow :o
 
1:07 PM
so when you hear some french star going to live in switzerland
he's just a greedy bastard
and in the end, the gov earns money, even though they let them get away with 90% of the cost
 
its interesting to see how other governments work
 
because they had to hire local carpenters, local you-name-it
 
not to bash my own people, but everybody here is brain washed that no matter what america does, its the best, no ifs ands or buts
4
 
because the people who rent the house themselves paid other local people for food and whatnot
 
right, so u .net fishes(poker term), if someone mistakenly thought they could just copy the ms sql files from one hard drive to another, and thought they could attach the old db files to the new, what chance of succeeding does he/she have lol :)
 
1:10 PM
Attach 2 db files? What that mean?
 
i formatted, copied my old hd files to new drive, but figured that i could just attach or whatever later on.
 
@Steve just rember Belgium sucks
http://www.oecd.org/document/55/0,3746,en_2649_34533_47422071_1_1_1_1,00.html
except if you don't want to work or ar a criminal
 
i could just rebuild the db. but i thought maybe there is an easier solution
 
You can attach to an arbitrary mdf file, if that's what you mean.
 
but im guessing there isnt one lol
 
1:12 PM
yeah detach attach db
 
im getting errors while trying to attach the mdf file
access denied
 
Film it. You are always granted access in movies.
;)
 
@DavidDV i could be a criminal
 
then Belgium is the best country
 
I've been watching too much "Breaking Bad"
 
1:16 PM
@Steve ooooh I haven't watched ep2 of the new season yet
I forgot!
 
i forgot too! i had to download it last night
WALT DIES, JR. CAN WALK AGAIN, THE WIFE GOT PREGNENT FROM A BLACK MAN, SPOILER ALERT
 
this season of breaking bad is def the best season
 
Man I wish chat had spoilers.
 
@DanielOR I say that every season :D
 
its the last season :(
but they're splitting it up or something
 
1:17 PM
@bab
 
into two parts
 
i thought that was an auto complete lol sorry.
this season is the best by far
the most unrealistic, but def the best lol
 
oh cmon, the big magnent, that was awesome
 
why dont theu kill skylar lol
 
can someone tell me what I'm missing here? String appendedText = System.Web.HttpUtility.UrlPathEncode(userName + "&userOrg=" + userOrg + "&jsonValue=" + jout);
I have a reference to System.Web
but it doesn't recognize HttpUtility
 
1:20 PM
using System.Web.HttpUtility;
lol idk
that doens't look right, nvm
 
get resharper :) and press alt enter lol :)
 
resharper bogs my work PC down
 
what is resharper?
 
as much as I wish i could have it, we use rebuilt Dells here :/
 
Change target framework to .NET 4 instead of .NET 4 CP
 
1:21 PM
that utility.UrlEncode annoyed the shit outta for awhile. then when using resharper. I just pressed alt+enter lol
 
yeah, resharper is nice
I did just get a new PC, but I'm still on a P4 with 2gb of ram
 
its more than nice :P some things suck tho. some times i wonder if my keyboard is fucking up or its resharper.
 
>! I want spoilers!
 
still can't run it + MVS 2010 + CounterPoint + SQL Server 2008
 
hi there, morning ^_^
 
1:23 PM
with sharper u can nearly forget about using the mouse
 
good morning
 
resharpoer&
 
oh its not free? :(
 
unless ur incompentant or drunk
which i am both atm :)
 
0
Q: Why doesn't chat allow spoilers?

Kendall FreyStack Overflow allows spoilers in the form: >! SPOILER Example: Why doesn't chat support them? They would be quite useful.

 
1:25 PM
Is there a way to assign a new ScriptManager to a new ReportViewer ? (problems with Thread and reportviewer >.<)
 
only found that out by reading my own messages lol
 
>! SPOILER : Darth Vader dies
 
@ScruffMcGruff NOooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
right so im guess i have to rebluild everythig in sql :(
:')
::'(
 
you shouldn't have to i don't think?
 
1:29 PM
how do i load the old mdf files into a new mssql instance?
those cunts wont load
 
I've downloaded the northwind and other test db's from the internet and loaded them into sql server
 
I'd start with SSMS. Try creating a connection to your DB.
 
I guess there is no way to do it =X
 
@DanielOR gooooogle, i would tell you but i dont know the answer
 
okay, ive had a sql server, copied all the files, thinking, oh im grat, ill just copy every to a new hard drive, then insalled a new won os, then installed sqlserver 2012 and ill defianetly be able to update with them old obselete files, BUT IT DOESNT F******** Work lol
hence after reading
u know im drunk
 
1:33 PM
were you using sqlserver 2012 before? or 2008?
you're drunk? its like 930am lol. You're my hero
2
 
im using 2012
and 2008 now
 
not now, BEFORE
 
Yes, quite drunk.
 
quite is not the worm
lol
word
lo
 
OH
well, this is fun
 
1:34 PM
foooook me
 
productivity--;
 
@KendallFrey lol
 
lmao
 
wow, i should get banned, lol, i have read my own message lol
please, let the onslaught begin
wow am i banned already
tops to this chat
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
 
o.O? @DanielOR Are you ok?
Anyone have any knowledge on Report Viewer inside of a thread?
 
1:44 PM
No, sorry
 
report viewer shouldnt drink as much as me
 
@Steve np =D
Burn some cells of my brain will not kill me (yet) hehehe
 
it shall not throw as many exceptions as :Alchoholiable inferace
 
IAlchoholiable > all
 
:)
IAlcoholibcle consumes the alchol :(
 
1:47 PM
And doesn't know how to spell.
 
drunk typing skills needs improvement :(
 
drunk people aren't worried about correct spelling
 
They aren't worried at all.
 
tbh i am :(
but 14 yo programmers are :(
i wish i was still one of them :(
 
JTA
Hi all... according to stackoverflow.com/questions/145110/c-performance-vs-java-c , C# has the potential to be as fast as C++. However, I haven't seen this proven true in my experience. I'm looking to create (as a side personal project) a small 3D application with a viewport and a bit of physics (think Blender, but much smaller) with C# and SharpDX. Could C# be up to the task? Anyone worked in this area using a managed language?
 
1:50 PM
@JTA not me. sowwy =X
 
im guessing alll of u guys are < 18
 
@DanielOR Wrong
 
@DanielOR why ? o.O
 
i am 26 and a half (don't you dare forget that 1/2)
 
lol
 
1:51 PM
@Steve LOL³
 
lol, no reason
 
@JTA I've done extensive reseach over the last 10 days on the subject
 
right then, im wrong, what age are all u guys
 
JTA
@Baboon Draw any conclusions?
 
it boils down to: SharpDX is 1.5 times slower than native C++. That's the cost of the managed overhead.
and don't bother going the hardcore route of full C++ or low level APIs
code it in XNA
because XNA games written today can be ported almost 1:1 to MonoGame
and MonoGame runs on SharpDX
which means, even though XNA is not sellable on the marketplace, an XNA app ported to MonoGame can
since SharpDX is supported in Win8
 
1:56 PM
assembly >
 
the "port" to MonoGame can be done under 1h, even for reasonably large projects: you just have to change the namespaces (using directives)
 
binary > assembly
 
i program in binary
zeros and ones
 
binary? I used hex.
 
JTA
1:56 PM
@Baboon Dumb question, but from what I recall, Mono was always quite a behind the .NET Runtime in terms of performance. Is it the same for MonoGame?
 
fooooook me
hex is nearly as good as bianaty
 
@JTA to answer that, you need to understand:
 
i can quote msdos in binary
00001010010010101011010101010100111111111110000000000011111110000000000011111111‌​11111
 
MonoGame is partly Mono's C#, which may be slower than regular C#
and partly SharpDX, which is 1.5 times slower than C++ DirectX
however, you gain tremendous dev speed
 
JTA
@Baboon Ok, I'll take a look at MonoGame
 
1:58 PM
and portability to pretty much every platform available
@JTA you can just start in XNA already, you'll port later. But that's just me hating MonoDevelop :D
 
JTA
@Baboon Yeah, not a big fan of it either.
 
so code with C#/XNA under Visual Studio 2010
there is another important point, but I'll keep that for my article ;)
 
JTA
My biggest concern outside of the graphics is the physics aspect of it. Moving 10,000s of vertices requires quite a bit of calc. Not sure how C# would hold up.
 
so i feel good with c#, how hard is game programming with xna? are there major... high level concepts that i'll need to understand first?
 
@Steve depends what you want to achieve, but for anything cool, there's a lot to learn
yet it's fun, you're developing a game after all :p
 
2:01 PM
@Baboon ty
 
I'm making a chess game to learn
 
oh that sounds fun!
 
I can talk more about my experience in a week or two
 
JTA
@Steve I learned a lot from the XNA templates (Space Shooter, RPG) that were available from the XNA website. Haven't been to the site in years, but I assume they are still available.
 
oh, and code in XNA 4.0 of course
 
2:02 PM
i think a chess game is a perfect starting project, i think i'll do it
 
Hey all! I finally have the right to enter the chat!
 
i'll race you @baboon
 
cool, then we can compare our work and learn from each other's failures
 
XNA wooooo
 
I haven't started yet, I just made my mind on which engine to use etc
 
2:03 PM
Does anybody here have any experience with plugins in Unity?
 
ong xna,
tbh just quit
 
@DanielOR did you read everything I've just written?...
 
awww...nobody?
 
@JoshElias try gamedev.stackexchange.com
 
@JoshElias why did you get banned?
 
2:05 PM
I got banned?
 
@Steve he just got over 20 points
under 20 points you cant talk on chats
 
I don't know, you said you finally have the right to enter chat
ohhhhhh
 
lol
yeah
 
@baboon i read all of it and none of it
 
I'm low level lol
 
2:05 PM
i got banned for going in the JS chat and calling them F*** boring
 
@JoshElias Welcome
 
LMAO
thx
whats stackexchange? sister website for gamedev?
 
@Steve JS is not boring... is just that C# is funnier =)
 
js < c#
 
@MichelAyres :) well, everybody said JS chat was crazy and wild, and i went in there and was very disappointed, so I let them know. They didn't like it
 
2:07 PM
@JoshElias http://stackexchange.com/sites#traffic
http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/
 
@JoshElias Stack Exchange is the mother of Stack Overflow, Super User, Server Fault, and others.
 
REALLY?
wow why am I wasting my time here!
 
@Steve =P
@JoshElias ?
 
kidding
 
The only difference between those and other SE sites is that the big ones have their own domains.
I think SO is the biggest.
 
2:08 PM
@KendallFrey SO is definitely the biggest
 
@KendallFrey SO is the creator of SE but SE is the mother of SO, is that as weird as it looks like ? o.O
 
ooo, but for gamedev related stuff I should head over there?
 
@Baboon Arqade is following SO
 
cool, thx mon c ya!
 
@JoshElias Maybe. Btw, when you reach 200+ rep, you got 100 rep in all SE sites
 
2:09 PM
@JoshElias TBH, I think GameDev is just a clone of a section of SO.
 
Does anyone know the proper way of writing in an ASP.NET handler? I'm using OutputStream.WriteAsynch and that is great (.NET 4.5), but, the server will always use 302 not found even tough I return content. What can I do about this?
 
@MichelAyres arqade is second? oO
 
@Baboon SU is the 2
 
@KendallFrey
 
have to go now, need to finish that thread =)
 
2:11 PM
where is the stache guy :(
 
You mean @RyanTernier ?
 
yeah
 
@MichelAyres 4th according to that graphic
SF and SU have more questions
way more actually, Arqade is 22k questions, SF and SU have over 100k
which is nothing compared to the whooping 3.2M on SO =o
nice graph, ty
wait 5th
meta has more too
 
mannnnnnnnnnnnn
....
 
what do ppl chat about in here?
 
2:20 PM
C#
 
everything
from c#
to ....
 
C# and everything else.
 
lets talk design patterns
 
Hi Guys I have a class called "SettingsComponentAttributes" and then a statement (below) but VS says it cannot find the type "settingsComponentAttributes"...What am I doing wrong? public override void CreateAttributes()
{
m_attributes = new SettingsComponentAttributes(this);
}
 
its not in the same namespace is it
 
2:23 PM
yeah maybe you're missing a using directive
 
it should all be under one namespace though
 
Or maybe the type of m_attributes is cased incorrectly, as your comment suggests
 
@arthurmani should or is
 
oups sorry, curly bracket
 
your error has settingsComponentAttributes, with a lowercase s, while your code has SettingsComponentAttributes with a capital S, chat typo or code typo?
 
2:29 PM
chat typo, sorry guys, there was an extra curly bracket that closed the namespace!
 
ohhh okay
 
I just checked out the GamDev SE...restarting my rep! no thx!
 
lol you only have 24 rep
not to be a dick or anything (my rep isn't that high either)
 
@arthurmani Want to post more of your code here? Specifically the SettingsComponentAttributes class?
 
@Steve Haha you only have 400 rep! ;)
 
2:40 PM
@OutlawLemur Haha you only have 954.
 
lol i know i know
 
@KendallFrey Haha you don't have 10k rep
 
lmoa
it took me 3 weeks to get this rep buddy! lol
It's hard to get rep when you don't know much
 
My first 20 rep took me 2 months... then to 50 took me another month. Then to get to where I am now is 2 months
 
But that's why i'm here
 
2:42 PM
asking questions (intelligent questions that you can't google) is the best way to earn rep when you don't know anything
 
@Josh I had that problem... but now I am top answerer in tag
 
<----case in point
 
Hi @walkingTarget, to be honest I am struggling with an error saying: C# class does not contain a constructor that takes 1 arguments on the line I pasted previously. in the SettingsComponentAttributes class is: public class SettingsComponentAttributes : GH_ComponentAttributes
{
public override GH_ObjectResponse RespondToMouseDoubleClick(GH_Canvas sender, GH_CanvasMouseEvent e)
{
((SettingsComponent)Owner).ShowSettingsGui();
return GH_ObjectResponse.Handled;
}

}
 
@Steve Lol
 
I tried adding a constructor in the class itself but it did not help
 
2:42 PM
I have only had 1 5+ upvoted q
 
@OutlawLemur me too, but i have a few 2's, maybe a 3 and a bunch of 1's
they add up
 
@arthurmani Is that the entire class?
 
@Ste
sorry, just playing around...
@Steve so this is how you target somebody...cool
 
@walkingTarget yep, it's to be able to double click on a button in the software
 
2:44 PM
hmm that didn't work..
 
yep it did
 
Press up key to edit last post
for example
hi
 
oh yeah? no highlight on my end
 
the return.handled prevents the software to do what it usually do
 
its there
 
2:45 PM
very very very nice...
 
No, it only highlights your name.
You can also reply to a specific message, like this:
 
You need the one-arg constructor to be able to instantiate a SettingsComponentAttributes object like new SettingsComponentAttributes(this)
 
@JoshElias This is a reply to your oh yeah? message
 
I remember when I was young and clueless about SO chatrooms.....
 
lmao
@KendallFrey I'm replying to your reply
 
2:47 PM
If you also instantiate the object like new SettingsComponentAttributes() or a no-arg constructor is required by something else, you'll need to define that too
 
The first time I came in here, I left because there was so little activity. Now we are about as busy as Lounge<C++>.
 
@walkingTarget, that's why I added a constructor in the class but the same message happened within the class: public SettingsComponentAttributes(SettingsComponentAttributes obj)
{
}
 
wow I feel like I'm 5 years old playing with legos...But this will no doubt be very helpful throughout my career
Is Lounge<c++> another site?
 
No that is the C++ chatroom
 
oh ok lol
 
2:48 PM

Lounge<C++>

Today we're daydreaming about C++26 reflection
 
@walkingTarget, the error disapears when removing the this in (this)
 
Aren't you cool kendall... Can show a little image;)
 
Is there a resource where I can look into the (this) argument, I think I am misunderstanding it...
 
I just got hired as a Junior developper, first job in the industry. I'm probably gonna be on here A LOT!
 
Well most of us here now are almost always here
 
2:50 PM
@JoshElias me too, i'm an intern and so is @Andredseixas
 
@Kendall Which reminds me....
@Steve but @OutlawLemur isn't!
 
@Steve nice!
 
@Baboon I was talking about Traffic not questions =)
 
I am not an intern. I'm a Junior Developer..
 
Wow, Lounge is still twice as active as we are!
 
2:51 PM
Well, now with this new job incoming I'll be a Full Developer.
 
@Kendall C++ is much more confusing
 
oh,i thought you were an intern, my bad
 
No, I'm just not well paid haha
 
I hear you there lol
 
I consider myself a full developer.... since I started my company.
 
2:52 PM
@OutlawLemur faxes outlaw his resume
 
I consider myself an engineer... since I looked it up in the dictionary.
 
I don't know how it works cross-border but here there is Junior, Full and Senior.
 
@Steve Sorry... no one under 401 rep allowed ;)
 
I work cross-border.
 
lol dang
 
2:52 PM
@OutlawLemur, thanks a lot, I understand this when used like this: public Employee(string name, string alias)
{
// Use this to qualify the fields, name and alias:
this.name = name;
this.alias = alias;
}
but what does it mean when used when instanciating a class: int blabla = new BlaBla(this);
 
@arthurmani That constructor would be correct if you were passing it a SettingsComponentAttributes object.
 
Oh like
public static Joint ScaleTo(this Joint joint, int width, int height, float maxSkeletonX, float maxSkeletonY);
that means
 
What is this when you pass it to the constructor?
 
Joint joint;
 
@arthurmani All it's doing is passing this object to the constructor.
 
2:53 PM
joint.ScaleTo(342, 5213);
 
this outside the constructor and inside the constructor are completely separate.
 
oh cool, i didn't know "this" changed if you were defining a class within a class
 
Stop distracting me guys! I just wasted half an hour I was supposed to be working
 
this always refers to the current instance of the class. That means it isn't available in static methods, since static methods don't use instances.
 
2:58 PM
@arthurmani In the following line, why are you passing this to the SettingsComponentAttribute constructor?
 
Was that supposed to be +1? :)
 
m_attributes = new SettingsComponentAttributes(this);
 
@Kendall No that was binary for true
 
Oh, great. Now I need to figure out what binary for true actually is.
 
lol
 
2:59 PM
Okay.... it was the int equivalent of true
^ I had to do that since a bool wasn't powerful enough one time
 

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