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3:00 PM
Week two is COBOL. Students can choose between implementing Fizzbuzz or writing three pages on Grace Hopper's contribution to the field.
 
W00t, looks like I'll be doing a lot more Flask work soon.
 
Looking forward to it? :-)
 
Contract in Cambridge coming up starting in 2 weeks.
 
@Martijn congrats :)
 
DSM
I have an idea for a regeneration in which the Doctor sounds a little strange. "Doctor," she asked, nervously, "what's your favourite sport?" "Hockey. No, cricket. No, wait, hockey." "Ice hockey?" "There's no other kind of hockey." "What's your favourite snack?" "Maple taffy. Or maybe poutine." ".. Doctor, I think there's something you should know." "What?" "You're Canadian."
 
3:05 PM
You forgot "Eh" and "Sorry"
 
In what I can only assume is sheer coincidence, every Canadian I have ever met is either a tiny woman or a huge man.
 
If you're going for the full-on stereotypes.
 
Will he speak like Robin Scherbatsky from How I Met Your Mother?
 
I was thinking the same thing. "You're Canadian." "oh :-( sorry"
 
DSM
He is going to have strong Canadian raising.
 
3:07 PM
I have very little patience for PEP 263 cargo culting.
 
He was raised Canadian? Gallifrey was on Earth all along. Right next to Manitoba.
 
Unicode exception? Must be you didn't declare your source encoding.
BBZZZZT. You are out.
 
DSM
Spoilers: it turns out he isn't actually the Doctor, and he - and his fox-eared companion -- have to figure out who he really is, and what's happened to the Doctor.
Two year run, just enough to tell a good story and get out.
 
@Kevin have you been spiking people's tea/coffees with your medication?
 
Yeah, I'm testing the "people that take the medication are the ones that experience the effect" theory. There's certainly a correlation, but that doesn't always mean causation!
It could be a reverse-causation. Experiencing the effects causes you to take the pills in the past.
 
With just a dash of thiotimoline
 
Umm... it would be nice if the close review queue told you how many votes you had left...
 
3:29 PM
The close reason box shows the number.
 
Scipy docs are down. The world is ended. Goodbye my friends.
 
Should I put a bag over my head and lie down?
 
DSM
@Ffisegydd: the numpy & scipy docs are down more than the docs for any other package I use regularly. Not sure why.
 
they should move to readthedocs, like everyone else
 
3:32 PM
Gotta love a bit of convolution...
 
Umm... how many close votes do we get again?
 
40
No, 50.
I have 50 anyway. But you may get more for every X above Y you are up to a maximum Z.
 
I thought that was just flags.
I have 50, and can review 40, per day.
 
Already closed
 
3:36 PM
I enjoy closing opinion questions because I get to make uplifting "the answer lies in your heart" comments
Oh OP, I envy you, because you will soon embark on a journey of self-discovery!
 
Follow your dreams and you will find your answer.
 
Umm... well, I've closed at least a dozen, and I've got 44... that doesn't seem right
Well, I've got 100 flags left for the day
 
I don't think I'm using even a third of my close votes. I could close all day and still have some left over.
 
closing 6 would make sense from the cv's here and posts I've come across on the main site...
 
DSM
On average I close maybe 1 or 2 a day. Are we allowed to sell our unused close votes?
 
3:44 PM
Well, I figured I'd start trying to do ~20 close as dupes a day for Python stuff...
Actually make some practical use of the hammer
 
@Ffisegydd thank you -- however I was already familiar with it ;)
cabbage everyone!
 
cbg @Peter
 
@JonClements my weekend didn't go as I planned -- that's why I didn't pinged you -- sorry 'bout that
 
@Peter no worries - hope everything's okay :)
 
oh sure -- I just had to meet people in real life.. kind of odd ;)
 
3:50 PM

SO Close Vote Reviewers

This room is for support and discussion about reviewing and co...
 
@davidism yeah... I'm aware of that room... instead of general closing, I'm going through Python questions flagged as dupes, and closing as dupe where necessary...
 
what can one do, when have a ConnectionResetError?
 
@Peter panic!
 
This one actually: ConnectionResetError: [Errno 54] Connection reset by peer
 
Not very active, but has scheduled "work on the queue" events.
 
3:51 PM
@JonClements okay, I did that, but other than that?
 
Everyone filters to something or other, just filter to "[python] duplicate"
 
I have it after 24 hours of connection
 
Sounds like the peer's problem.
 
@Kevin so simply reconnecting after, idk, 10 secs will solve the problem?
 
Umm, maybe. Basically I'm saying that the other guy is a black box and can cut you off for whatever reason he wants.
So it's hard to say what you need to do to keep him happy.
 
3:56 PM
hmm.. interesting.. than what should a well-designed end-user app do then?
 
Umm... Should this even have a ?
 
It doesn't.
 
DSM
It did.
 
It's a review audit
 
"Wait some seconds and reconnect" seems reasonable, provided the thing you're connecting to doesn't explicitly disallow it in its terms. "Please don't send us regular connection requests" or what not
 
DSM
3:59 PM
Well, I say that it did, and I can see it there, but I can't see it in the history. Hmm.
 
Worked that out - now not sure if "Edit" is a pass/fail response
 
The review audit will put a Python tag into questions that aren't necessarily Python to trick you into thinking they're Python.
I said "Leave Open" and got the "Congrats you passed!" blurb.
But the Python tag isn't actually there, it's SO LYING TO YOU!
 
DSM
That's stupid.
 
I wonder if clicking edit to take out the Python tag would have been a fail...
 
@Kevin if that was the case it would reset my reconnection earlier.. okay then -- so there is no other magic (handle this exception here) -- thanks ;)
 
4:01 PM
I agree it's stupid. Whenever I get a question in the queue, even if it's clear cut close I open it separately to look at all the facts.
 
Always open the questions if they make no sense.
 
I've failed audits by not doing it, though luckily not enough to get banned from reviewing.
 
Yeah, I fail probably 1 for every 100 real, haven't had anything happen yet.
 
DSM
I can't claim this is why I don't review, but it certainly doesn't make it more appealing.
 
How many failed audits do you need before you get banned from reviewing?
Actually, I should really learn how to google
 
4:03 PM
@IntrepidBrit I think it's non-public knowledge.
 
If you have a pretty good record built up, a lot.
 
It's kinda strange. Like if it's lots in a small while you'll get banned quickly but they die down with time etc
 
If you fail one, just pay attention to the rest of the current queue to not hit another one, and you should be fine.
 
Having to decide whether a question is good when I have no knowledge of the technology used, doesn't sound fun to me. How am I supposed to know whether single letter variables in MatLab is the norm, or the sign of a deranged mind?
 
You can always click skip as well
 
4:05 PM
@Kevin that's why I filter for only Python.
 
adding tag filters make the audits pretty obvious, but I'd never thought about Jon's editing point
 
But you'll occasionally get Matlab questions with a fake Python tag added, right?
 
Yeah unfortunately.
 
I'm not overly worried, it's more to do with the fact I only get audits with Late Reviews.
 
I don't tend to edit very often, I tend to skip if I think it needs serious editing and leave it for someone with more patience.
 
4:07 PM
@Ffisegydd well, I have a feeling Edit might have been a fail...
 
DSM
Too finicky, and with hard-to-discern standards. It's more fun to actually answer questions-- heck, it's more fun to be a code-writing service and see if I can solve a complex problem in ten lines or so.
 
I posted in the other chat, I'm sure rene will find some meta question about it.
 
Heh yeah I had a gorgeous list comprehension the other day :D
 
@Ffisegydd ooo... where where?
 
np.array([row[np.max(np.nonzero(row))] if len(np.nonzero(row)[0]) else 0 for row in np.array(list(zip(*x)))])
 
4:10 PM
I'm defactoring code that conditionally creates a class for Windows or for Linux, with an apparently unnecessary base class, and I was wondering if there are any caveats I should be aware of in doing that.
 
We should write up FizzBuzz using LCs in the same state as Kevin's lambda one.
See how nested it could become.
 
DSM
@Ffisegydd: what's that supposed to do?
 
1
A: Add matrices in a boolean way

FfisegyddThere is no library function to do this, but you can still use numpy functions to help in the calculation. np.nonzero will return the indices of all elements that are non-zero, in your case you simply want the last one of these so you can use np.max to find it. Below are two functions which do ...

 
@AaronHall don't break it? How would we answer that?
 
Sometimes I design classes that could all share a base class, but I don't actually bother writing said class since it contains no logic.
 
DSM
4:13 PM
If you remove a base class you'd break code using it for an isinstance check, I suppose.
 
That my many classes all have a frob method, is not justification enough to have them all inherit from Frobbable
 
DSM
@Kevin: that will be enough justification soon, so that we can use it in our new type declarations.
 
Never mind, it got approved. Why would anyone approve adding the phrase "What is the problem? What do you suggest?"
 
(ha, I forgot about that google.com/…)
 
@DSM I am safe from all future language changes, in my 2.7 stasis chamber.
 
4:15 PM
Right, I checked the code base, no checks for the base class
 
@Ffisegydd Hey buddy. Where's my citation ;)
 
@davidism well - they did amend the code block to be somewhat more readable
 
I was mostly just wondering if them being nested in if statements could affect anything when their base wasn't
 
too slow
 
4:18 PM
I'm finding all kinds of apparently needless code in the code base. Most of it is genuinely redundant, but once in a while it's a bug hider.
Or a bug workaround, maybe I should say, but no comment indicating so.
 
@AaronHall ahh... my favourite kind of code bases :p
@davidism what's the verdict on corvid's PR?
 
So I want to defactor this, because the base only has two subclasses, and two methods, and one of the subclasses implements both methods. But since one or the other is created conditionally, I'm worried I might expose a bug.
 
DSM
Sometimes unnecessary base classes are just a remnant of a generalization which turned out not to be useful. I have a fair number of interfaces in some Java code I'm working on which only exist to support things I haven't done yet.
 
Python 2.6
2.6.5
But based on my reading of the grammar, I don't think it should
 
@JonClements looks good for the most part, I will edit and merge this afternoon.
 
4:26 PM
That's good news :)
 
DSM
@Kevin: beat you by one second to that possibility. :-)
 
NASA, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Austin Wintory = awesome
 
And you beat me by one second on pinging me in chat too!
 
@Kevin I know you love Rot13, so here are some of the brilliant solutions
 
Haha, love that last update.
 
4:28 PM
@Pete or in Python (removed in 3.x though): 'abc'.encode('rot13')
 
@JonClements I know, I know ;)
but what I did not know is that it was removed -- why?
 
A, b, c was my typing mistake. Sorry for that. I have a List [A,B,C]. How can I convert it to list ['A', 'B', 'C']? — NikAsawadekar 34 secs ago
 
It's not technically an encoding I suppose :)
 
@JonClements but it is fun ;)
 
bah... who wants fun? Sounds boring :)
 
4:30 PM
I was about to say, "looks like it's a 'how to upper case' question after all", but then the OP edited his comment in between me copying the url and pasting it in chat
Thus totally reversing the meaning.
looks like it's a "how to get the variable name" question after all.
 
Umm... why are linode invoicing me on the 18th?
Wonder if they invoice at the $50 mark or something
(as it's for $50.04)
 
DSM
@Kevin: this just gets funnier. Now it might be a set-to-list conversion!
 
@JonClements Btw, I'm not supposed to be getting those too, am I?
 
DSM
If this user didn't exist, we'd have to invent him, just to mess with FGITWers.
 
got issues with memcached, anybody comfortable with memcached?
 
4:36 PM
haha. "are the elements of your collection of type X or type Y?" "sorry guys. the collection is an A and not a B. hope that clears things up"
 
@davidism it sends it to all users on the control panel - it's safe for you to ignore it... It normally comes off card automatically, but that card was cancelled, so if the replacement card comes tomorrow (which it should) I'll do it then, or put it on another card for the time being
 
DSM
You know how some open source hosting sites show the estimated cost of the development of the program? I'd be interested in seeing how much the consultation fees of everyone involved in trying to make sense of this guy's question amount to.
 
@DSM I was looking at the AirPair rates - some of those are fairly hefty :)
 
DSM
Why do you think I only recommend Martijn's services to others but don't hire him myself? Poverty.
 
LOL
Daniel's more expensive :)
 
4:43 PM
Ooh, if only I could charge OPs a hefty fee for my time. Then when I ask for an SSCCE, they'd give me one!
Also I would get lots of money. That's good too I guess.
 
DSM
I could still see some point in it, though. Even stipulating that I have decent intermediate Python skills, and would eventually pick something up myself, if I borrow an hour of an expert's time, he'll know exactly what I need to know and where the real patterns and bottlenecks are. I could probably save myself days of work with that hour of study, and save the firm money even at three-figure-per-hour rates.
 
Some day I hope to have enough self-esteem to do contract work.
Programs by Kevin -- I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.
 
@davidism @Ffisegydd just so you know, I've opened a ticket to see how much grace period we have for me to pay the invoice... I'd really rather not faff about using another card/account - it'll just produce more paperwork and annoy my accountant
 
DSM
A former colleague of mine lived on soft money at an institute instead of on a faculty somewhere. Always seemed scary.
 
What's "soft money" (not heard that term before)
 
4:51 PM
It refers to whether the money is paper, or rocks from the stone age.
 
From context, I assume it's "income from a non-recurring source", i.e. you don't work 40 hours a week for BigCorp.
 
DSM
Basically project-related grants. It's usually soft (grant) vs. hard (salary).
 
(I have no idea.)
 
Maybe "soft money" is why you see people biting coins in westerns?
 
DSM
I did have a convenience store clerk refuse to accept a pound because he thought it felt wrong.
 
4:52 PM
@DSM so basically a - here's N amount - that's got to you last you a year - and isn't really for you, but more for stuff the project needs?
 
Heh. Welcome to my life for the past 3 years?
 
DSM
More or less. You assemble your annual wage from collecting enough grants.
 
I stop getting paid in March. Whether I've finished my PhD or not is besides the point.
 
The project needs a lead researcher that isn't starved, so I guess it's OK to spend some grant money on food?
 
I've started paying for a lot of things with $2 bills, and no one's called me out for it yet.
 
DSM
4:53 PM
@Ffisegydd: I was lucky. I ran a bit over, but my supervisor had money to burn.
 
The project also needs a lead researcher that has a new Xbox...
 
cbg @Daniel
 
Whenever I'm next in Europe, I plan to take lots of ten peso coins with me - nearly identical to a €0.10 coin and an eighth of the value. I will use them to pay for my return flight.
 
@DSM how do PhDs work in the Great North? I've heard horror stories of PhDs in USA that can last 4-7 years.
 
DSM
I knew a guy who got distracted into running the dep't IT and took ten years not to complete his degree.. Four to five isn't uncommon.
 
4:55 PM
See here we have a hard deadline of 4 years. If you take longer than that then you automatically fail.
I've got 3.5 years of funding.
 
DSM
@Kevin: and now it looks like it might be ast.literal_eval!
 
But typically you have 3 years funding and it takes you about 3 years.
 
@Ffisegydd the more I hear about academia, the more I'm glad I didn't enter into it :)
 
DSM
@Ffisegydd: that's probably for the best. I was effectively part-time for a while when I was the observatory coordinator, but my research was going okay, so it wasn't so bad.
 
@Jon like everything it has it's pros and cons.
 
4:57 PM
Ok, finally we find out the type of the list elements. They're classes. Maybe.
 
Indeed... at least these days the contracts that are asking for "Degree in Computer Science/equivalent" I can get away with by the "Been doing it for ~20 years"...
 
I also hear horror stories about PhD students having to teach their supervisor's courses.
 
@Kevin The Neverending Question.... Neverending Queeeeeestttiiiiooonn.... la de la de la... Questtiiiiiooooon!....
 
I've read enough Phd Comics to know it's not for me.
 
DSM
I didn't see that in physics. Some friends in English and History did that, but they liked it for the extra money (at my school the science faculties had a much higher floor.)
 
4:59 PM
Besides, why work for letters after your name, when you've got deed poll? :)
 
DSM
I think if I didn't do the PhD I would always have wondered about it. Plus I love the university environment, it just turned out not to love me back. ;-)
 
PhD comics is worryingly accurate.
 
haha. I just know I'd be in the nameless main character's position.
 
I'm glad I did my PhD in the long run. Though if I could go back in time now I'd have done a degree/PhD in mathematics rather than Physics.
 
DSM
Ooh, I almost made the math jump myself.
I was interested in computationally exploring theory structures. Wanted to make little mathonaut agents.
 
5:04 PM
I'm glad I've done it because the 3 letters do turn into a pay rise vs non-doctorate. Also if ever I'm on a plane and someone asks "Is there a doctor onboard!?" I can smugly stand up and go "Yes I'm a doctor. Tell me, is there a problem with the planes neutron-generating nuclear reactor? I can also fix vacuum systems and convolute Gaussian functions with a sinc function!" before being shushed by some pleb who cuts bodies up.
 
Physics is too volatile a field in comparison to math. What if there's a spacetime-quake tomorrow, and all the cosmological constants change? You'll have to edit your thesis.
 
DSM
@Kevin: parser.parse_args!
 
"The Earth orbits the sun in an elliptical square-ical path"
 
I think if all of the physical constants change tomorrow then my thesis will be the least of our worries.
 
DSM
The dimensionful ones can change as they like. I'll just set them back to one anyway.
 
5:06 PM
for computational simplicity, the universe now uses manhattan distances instead of euclidean distances.
 
I always liked that in Quantum: "I'm going to use units such that all constants are equal to 1."
 
(nerd snipe warning. Try not to think about what consequences manhattan geometry would entail)
 
A school friend barely scraped his A-levels, spent 4 years doing a maths degree, then got fed up of it, started a degree in journalism, scrapped that because he then decided he wanted to do something else... I think he's still at uni. to this day
 
CBG
Anyone see a problem with allowing the user to login with username or email? Both, either or....
 
DSM
For me I set G=1, and measured time in years and distances in AU. That meant the Sun has mass (2*pi)^2, which always felt elegant.
 
5:08 PM
@Johnston well, a lot of sites allow either email or username login... you just need to make sure both are unique across the board and try email if it contains an @ or username if it doesn't... so - not really an issue - it's just more work for you
 
@Johnston "either or" sounds fine to me. Requiring both, plus a password, sounds like more work for the user.
 
I work in units called barn which is perfectly normal for me but everyone else finds hilarious
 
@Ffisegydd ridiculous - everything can be measured in Scooby Snacks... it's the definitive measurement of all things in the multiverse
 
@Jon Thanks. I have a site I made more than 4 years ago.. Has over 6000 users. We get calls almost everyday.. They say our site is stupid and they can't login... Turns out they expect to enter a email... We have always taken usernames.. Should I change it or are these people just stupid? It's labeled correctly. .
 
DSM
@Ffisegydd: it does sound a little silly. But then I still smile whenever I'm splitting some structure in c++ and get to write auto parts = ....
 
5:10 PM
We once had a drunken discussion and developed a system where everything could be measured in "chickens"
 
Weren't they going to name quarks after ice-cream flavours?
 
@DSM gets worse when I have to work in millibarn.
 
(and that's why they're still called "flavours of quark")?
 
@Johnston I'd try to educate your users first before making technical changes. However, if the feedback you're receiving is that your users want that, then it might be worth considering. You could also associate OpenIDs with your users, so they can use gmail/yahoo/etc... to login
 
DSM
I still prefer the names "truth" and "beauty" to "top" and "bottom". Apart from the fact they're more fun, it made for the line about "Beauty is easy to find, but who can find Truth?"
 
5:13 PM
Thanks Jon and Kevin.
 
@DSM "I don't want some pretty face to tell me pretty lies, all I want is someone to believe in..."
 
Honesty?
 
Ten points to @Johnston!
 
DSM
@JonClements: I figured that for a One Direction lyric.
 
@DSM Billy Joel man.. Geez.
One direction?!?
 
5:15 PM
@DSM you confused the awesome singer/song-writer Billy Joel with the pile of insert long string of expletives 1D?
 
I love 1D!!!!!!! (As working in one dimension makes equations much easier)
 
DSM
This awesome singer/song-writer Billy Joel must hate being confused with the talentless hack Billy Joel who gets more airplay. Poor guy.
 
@DSM his modern stuff is pants... and his most famous songs aren't his best stuff... all the stuff he did that didn't really make it onto being played constantly is his best stuff
Even though his later stuff is pants, hasn't stopped be getting every single track he's ever done though
Billy Joel/Paul Anka/Carole King/Gerry Goffin/Leonard Cohen/Gordon Lightfoot etc... some fantastic writers
 
DSM
@Ffisegydd: I'm a 3D man myself. Too many of the problems I studied changed too much in 2D.
 
I have to work with Fourier a lot so 1D is more than enough for me.
 
5:19 PM
Just avoid Tensors
 
@Ffisegydd what... it's much more fun working with 37 dimensional hypercubes
 
DSM
"Hypercube" is the name we use for our in-house N-d data object. (It has axes like "Region" and "Cancer//Lung" and "Sex" and "Time" and so on.)
 
@DSM one of my clients uses Mondrian
 
@JonClements For a moment there I thought that client was Google and you meant the internal version of Rietveld, the code review tool..
 
@Martijn there was I thinking I'd given you a good opening to promote your video :)
 
5:27 PM
@JonClements :-P I am not all that keen to promote it though.
 
I think that's a very comprehensive answer to use as a canonical dupe though... should be added to sopython
 
DSM
@Jon: I was thinking that myself. I think Martijn has some similarly-themed answers which might also fit there.
 
@MartijnPieters Google doesn't use Mondrian internally any more. It was too Pythonic: the whole thing was rewritten in Java.
 
@DanielRoseman Of course, sometimes it feels as if the Python devs are being pushed out from Google by the Java buffs.
 
Okay... I've added a new wiki entry: sopython.com/wiki/11
 
5:37 PM
@DSM I don't have any answers that cover this aspect, not this thoroughly.
 
This is similar
 
There is a discussion about it in the comments of stackoverflow.com/a/15112149/100297
 
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That's nice... I did say would "by the end of the week be okay"?... that works though :)
 
@vaultah That's something very different however, that's about multiple targets in the assignment.
There [a, b, c] is just alternative syntax for (a, b, c) which is exactly the samething as (a, b, c).
 
Yeah, I understand
 
5:39 PM
Targets only look like Python sequences, but they are not really.
 
Wow, the one-upping of those comments is great.
 
DSM
@Martijn: I was pretty sure I learned about that from an earlier answer of yours, but I suppose there are other people who occasionally do internals questions..
 
@MartijnPieters Is setting up the set/frozenset slower? I know lookup would be faster.
 
@MartijnPieters I never felt that Python was treated as a "real" language while I was there. There's a strong presumption that anything for production should be in Java - or now, I guess, Go.
 
@DanielRoseman How long were you at Google for?
 
5:50 PM
three years
left in February
 
Just finished reading Use of Weapons, it was excellent.
The entire book sets up that last twist so well. Makes the moral question even better.
 
@DanielRoseman I think most people would like to work at Google... although, it doesn't sound quite as fantastic as it's hyped to be from what I can gather
Umm... is "The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug" any good?
 
They don't want to work at Google, but they want to be the kind of person that Google would hire
 
DSM
I used to think it would be cool to work there. But then I saw the trailer for The Internship and decided maybe not.
 
It would be good in some ways, but I'd rather avoid working for Google/Facebook/Amazon right now. Small business feels so much more personal.
 
DSM
5:57 PM
@Jon: it has some excellent set pieces.
 
I want amazing Google-worthy abilities, so I can use them selfishly towards my own ends
 
@Kevin for the low-orbit tea cannon, right?
 
@davidism Object creation is going to be slower if not stored as a constant.
So in Python 3.1 and earlier, testing against a tuple or list is going to be slower.
 
Perhaps, although I think Google-me would have altogether different project ideas than regular-me
Something with quaternions and partial differential equations and NLP, I'm sure
 
Using if thing in {set}: is slower since the set has to be created? But only for <3.2?
 
6:03 PM
@JonClements I liked working there, and there are some amazing opportunities, but to progress you really need to be the right kind of person, and I absolutely wasn't.
it's not very much like The Internship though.
 
DSM
You'd think the blueberry muffin I had for breakfast would last me the day, but in defiance of physical law it seems not to have sufficed. Time to address this situation.
 
It's weird to me that people with more than 0% body fat still need to eat food to live. Designers of the human body, please address this problem.
Food is expensive and I don't like watching my gut jiggle when I brush my teeth. I feel like these two problems should be able to cancel out.
 
And my previous big Flask project just went live.
Pity I am not allowed to name it.
 
ooooo I wanna see
is it called Pity?
 
Thing is, I signed a contract that states I am not allowed to let anyone know I worked on it..
 
6:16 PM
oh bummer
You know what kinda of bummer that is?
 
However, they it is a content-driven site from a business now owned by Google.
So deploying to GAE was important to them.
@DanielRoseman: would love to bend your ear more about Google and what you worked on there, but dinner is ready.
So it'll have to wait until another time.
rbrb all!
 
@JonClements Silly TP roll. Don't you know that it's specious reasoning to say "you shouldn't complain because others have it worse"?
 
@MartijnPieters Hate those contracts. "Can I see your previous project?" "Um no. Here's something I did when I was 12 instead"
 
Because then the opposite would also be true: "you should be angry if anyone has it better than you."
This seems like a bad deal, except for the happiest man alive, whoever that may be
 
6:19 PM
@Kevin the politics of envy? :)
 
I wonder if dung beetles feel envy.
Or does it require self-awareness?
 
@Kevin if one's life revolved around a dependency on faeces - I'm sure they don't really have an issue...
 
"Steve's dung ball is bigger than mine :-( shucks! Of all the crappy luck!"
(Although, by the beetle's cultural standards, it's Steve that has the crappy luck)
 
It's possible there's a discernible difference between dungs... so quality != quantity
 
Yeah, I bet it's like wine tasting for humans.
Dung appraisal is a rich and fertile field.
 
6:40 PM
What are the chances that a dung beetle interested in Python programming, with internet access and an SO account is going to happen across this room and enlighten us with its unique perspective?
 
mmm, 99%? I know you wouldn't ask unless the odds were really high or really low.
 
Those are pretty good odds... I suppose it depends what hours it keeps and timezone it's in on whether we'll see it though...
 
It's a bit tricky, because our "don't ask to ask" policy precludes us from querying "anyone here a dung beetle?"
 
I return
 
Ok. Are you a dung beetle?
 
6:50 PM
I am.
 
Excellent. Do you feel envy, and is there a discernible difference between different sources of dung?
 
@Kevin well - it appears it takes a while for the species to formulate a response...
 
Hard to press down the right keys, I imagine
 
You'd have thought they'd have evolved to use more suitable input devices than human keyboards though...
 

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