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7:52 AM
Random question of the day: is there an elaborate German word for "thank you"? In the era of slack, I try to mix up my "hi" and "thank you" terms but I'm running out of variations and I suspect that German might be able to provide something colourful
 
Dankeschön? Not sure if that counts as elaborate, but at the very least it's long
 
It's a reasonable elaboration on danke that I've been using :) I was wondering whether there might be a really long version but I guess that might be asking too much
 
If you want something longer you'll need to a complete sentence, but honestly I can't even think of one that doesn't sound unnatural
You could say something like "Thank you for X", but other than that? There isn't really anything to add after a "thanks"
 
8:07 AM
That's fair enough. From an ignorant Brit's perspective, I just know the language is good at making long words so I thought of looking there first
Anything to break the tedium of slack chats is good
Arigatou gozaimasu is probably the longest that I know of
 
Domo arigato gozaimasu is apparently also a thing
Japan's got us beat
 
Such a classic song :P
 
"Merci beaucoup" is probably not long enough
 
I'm not ashamed to say that I know all the lyrics
@NordineLotfi That's also a staple :)
 
8:27 AM
maybe could also use some Italian: "Grazie mille"
 
Somewhere I bet there's something along the lines of "May you get all the blessings of the heavens and have a fruitful harvest" combined into a single word. My search continues...
 
Maybe that one exist in Japanese or Chinese
 
Google has just pulled up "80 ways to say thank you in English". I probably couldn't get past 5!
"Cheers mate". Added benefit - you don't even need to remember their name in the pub
"I don’t know what to say!" is apparently one of them. Yeah, fair, but I think the outcome of that discussion is going to go the complete opposite direction if it's me saying it. This has been a fun distraction from work
 
@Aran-Fey Yes, the mods generally agree. But when you consider the sheer scale that SO operates at, and the fact that we already weren't able to stem the tide of human-generated bullshit (which takes at least some time to generate, which naturally slows it down), you quickly realize that an automated nonsense generator would be orders of magnitude worse. This is why we banned its use outright from the beginning. The company is now, effectively, taking away our right to enforce this, not to mention publicly slandering our decision-making abilities without any basis whatsoever.
 
8:45 AM
Just being pedantic here but: "This is why we banned its use outright from the beginning". Was it the mods that pushed that policy through in the first place?
IMO it was the right thing to do, but I do think it adds context to know whether that initial ban was from mod pressure or the company itself
 
 
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1:14 PM
@roganjosh Yes, the ChatGPT policy came from mods and regular users involved in curation. We tried to get a clear network-wide policy statement from the company, but they declined.
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A: Ban ChatGPT network-wide

SlateWith due consideration, we've decided no network-wide, general policy regarding banning ChatGPT, or other AI generated content, is necessary or helpful at this time. However, as detailed in answer to: "Is attribution required for machine-generated text when posting on Stack Exchange?", we do cons...

 
 
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2:24 PM
@PM2Ring Thank you.
 
@Aran-Fey Vielen dank "many thanks"
 
@PM2Ring Excuse me, I misspoke. Domo arigato gozaimasu :P
 
2:39 PM
:)
@Aran-Fey I can relate to that
We could be using AI to help filter the useful content from the rubbish. Instead, the new policy will allow more rubbish that masquerades like useful content. Here's a current example reported on MSE
> There is a user on Stack Overflow, who posted six answers within 12 (!) minutes:
 
There is no way in hell that SE policy will keep up with this
 
Clearly, it's impossible for that answerer to do proper quality control on the ChatGPT content when they're posting at that rate.
 
2:57 PM
The very first ChatGPT answer I saw on SO, which was linked on MSO a couple of days before the ban, looked quite good on the surface. The OP wanted to de-dupe a list. ChatGPT wrote a nice explanation of the algorithm, and wrote clean-looking code. Unfortunately, the code used break instead of continue.
Now, that's not too hard to fix, even for a cargo-culter. But the guy who posted that code didn't notice that error. And when the errors are more subtle they can be harder to identify & repair, especially if you trust the BS explanation that ChatGPT has written.
 
ChatGPT will win this. I have no doubt about that; it's how the enclave of people that actually know what they're talking about defend themselves. It's already in my world professionally
 
3:46 PM
Mar 24 at 20:03, by PM 2Ring
Our copyright law, and our attitudes towards content creation have never had to deal with something like ChatGPT before. I don't know what the solution is. I think it's too early to figure out how we're going to deal with this stuff. I feel like we're horse & buggy experts trying to make decisions about the impact of the internal combustion engine...
 
 
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5:06 PM
@NordineLotfi thanks, I got my problems solved with your posts
Is RRT greedy? I couldn't find any such sentence anywhere except when the article was about IMPROVING RRT, which makes me believe that it isn't. But the newly generated random node is connected to the CLOSEST node right? So shouldn't it be greedy?
 
5:23 PM
@insipidintegrator No worries
@insipidintegrator I'm afraid this is out of my league :)
 
5:48 PM
@NordineLotfi no, I wasn't asking you specifically though I can see why it seems like it :)
it was just directed to any kind user who may have an idea about it
 
ah, got you
 
@insipidintegrator I already asked you what you were trying to solve. You didn't answer that and then moved on to this.
 
sorry man @roganjosh. I just have to make a presentation about PID controllers, genetic algorithms and RRT/RRT* as an assignment
 
PID? What does that have to do with genetic algos?
 
nothing. three separate topics
it's basically for selection into a robotics research group in my college
 
5:51 PM
It's been many years and I'm very rusty, but that's just a bunch of well-defined differential equations
@insipidintegrator Ok, then I'm going to ask you to stop, please. You're just throwing questions out. If you were following them up, even if they're not strictly python, I might have some flexibility. But that's not what's happening here
 
'just throwing questions out': well, that's a stretch... I'm trying my best here and researching before asking anything
and that roulette selection pseudocode actually helped me write an elementary genetic algorithm in python today,
 
Really? Demonstrate that. Right now all your posts are just asking random questions. In your own words, you've managed 3 in, what, 2 days?
 
3 what?
 
5 mins ago, by insipidintegrator
nothing. three separate topics
Your own words
 
no. three in 2 weeks.
here's the GA I wrote today if you want demonstration of my sincere efforts:
 
5:57 PM
I don't want the code
 
uh, then?
look, there's no algorithms chatroom that i could at least find.
that's why i am asking here
 
Showing research is "I found x, y and z but t doesn't work". It's not throwing abstract questions here
@insipidintegrator Tough luck. That's not an excuse to post here
 
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Is RRT greedy? I couldn't find any such sentence anywhere except when the article was about IMPROVING RRT, which makes me believe that it isn't. But the newly generated random node is connected to the CLOSEST node right? So shouldn't it be greedy?"
doesn't this state:1. what i think abou the problem
2. what i found when i searched it up
 
What does it have to do with python?
 
you're moving goalposts here, man. first you said that there wasn't any research. now you say it isn't about python when i show you research. that's just unfair.
 
6:01 PM
You can find any number of examples where posts aren't about python. I'm sure you're curating them now. However, you're not making a good impression with me by just throwing out these questions in isolation
 
look, i don't want to argue. I just need help understanding that RRT question. I'll leave the room after that. Please help me out one last time?
@roganjosh that's the thing. I finished up the GA work this evening and am now doing RRTs.
 
Just my two cents, but let them ask what they want to, if it is about a program they write in python. No one is obligated to respond in the first place. Am I wrong?
 
Nobody is obliged to answer, but you can't just allow anything to be asked
 
I mean, helping someone out who's trying their best doesn't hurt anyone right?
 
How are you doing your best? Seriously? You're not showing any research, you're just throwing questions. I don't want post-hoc evidence
Your questions are not researched at all. Go elsewhere. I've had enough of this one
 
6:07 PM
what kind of research do you want? likd, i said that all mentions of RRT and greedy together were made while improving RRT wherever i searched.
 
We are done here
 
why isn't that enough? what more can I do?
OK, fine. It's okay. I'll leave in peace. Bye. Hope there's an algorithms room in the future
 
You could always start the room. There's nothing stopping you from that
 
or looking into other stack exchange sites could be an option too.
 
The thing is, I asked these here because I thought that they were not fit for the main site. I didn't know that chatrooms had such strong moderation too.
 
6:10 PM
When I read PID I think about, PID controller. There is math involved and electronic engineers
electronics.stackexchange.com or math.stackexchange.com could lead you somewhere too if it is related, for instance. Just someone knows something doesn't necessarily mean they want to dive into it at any time and any cost.
 
It is a PID controller as far as I can tell. And the moderation of chat is pretty flexible @insipidintegrator but you're dropping in with just random questions. You've contributed nothing back, and you didn't respond to feedback/questions on your last question. We are not a helpline
 
@Thingamabobs thanks, but I am pretty clear with PID and don't need it right now. Appreciate the help tho
@roganjosh I think I can see your point, especially coming from math.se .
cheers.
 
I appreciate it, thank you. I don't mind bending the rules a bit but please don't take advantage of the room. You are welcome here if you get stuck again, but it should be strictly python-related now
 
6:45 PM
Ugh... any got 12 quid burning a whole in their pocket they don't need for 48 hours lol
Wow... 143 signatures and it's not even properly live until Monday... next week's going to be interesting!
Arghghgh... 3rd time today the computer has just restarted itself... Not having the greatest of starts to June lol
 
7:05 PM
145... I need to find a life if watching that page is proving slightly entertaining
 
@JonClements windows11 I presume?
@JonClements it's also randomly sorting the user list btw (on page refresh)
 
@NordineLotfi nope linux... I've just managed to construct some very dodgy docker container stuff
@NordineLotfi it orders by current mod, ex-mod, other, and then within each of those it randomises the order
 
@JonClements wow, sounds weird yeah
@JonClements I know :) (some mod mentioned this in the Meta room).
 
Docker is fun. Blue Peter would have been so much more interesting - "Here's one I made earlier" <immediately explodes in flames>
Tracy Island would never have been more fun
 
I'm not sure if mine are better or worse... but it's more like when they had the elephant in that decided it needed a poo... that's probably more my docker style :p
 
7:15 PM
> It was the third of June, another sleepy, dusty Delta day
 
Bookmarked that :)
 
It's a classic example of American Gothic, Southern style. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Gothic
Something cheerful with a Southern theme, from Josh Taylor & friends.
The same crew doing an interesting arrangement of Tempted by Squeeze. It's a bit different without keys, but I think it works. youtu.be/m1WmuJmb78U
Oops! I meant Josh Turner. And I can't blame auto-correct...
Here are couple of other British songs from Josh, showing he has no qualms about singing "girl's songs". Son of a Preacher Man youtu.be/3q7crp4mp8o Blackwaterside youtu.be/04dVmtee2q0
 
 
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9:12 PM
Hi all, sorry this is not directly a python related question but I plan to use python later to write an automated script, but hoping if anyone experience with ffmpeg or exiftool for windows can help? I have been trying to backup videos from my phone to pc, but before I back up I want to convert them to x265 format to save space. I am able to get the file to convert ffmpeg commands, but the output files doesn't seem to capture many of the meta-tags from the original video. Any advice?
Heres a sample of the ffmpeg command:
`ffmpeg -hwaccel qsv -i "source.mp4" -crf 27 -movflags use_metadata_tags -map_metadata 0 -metadata:s:v:0 rotate -c:v hevc_qsv -global_quality 25 -vf scale_qsv=1920:1080 -c:a copy -preset slow "output.mp4"`
 
 
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11:10 PM
@SShah What kind of metadata is missing, exactly?
 

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