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4:01 PM
Tell that to the guy who decided he wanted to change the Massive VBA Macro everyone uses at my place of work now the reports take an hour to do and more than half the time lock people out of their machines. Now no one has a workable macro and I've been assigned to create a replacement method.
Which i've opted to use Python in doing.
 
isn't that problem easily solved by holding on to a copy of the original code?
 
They never did.
They just changed and removed things as they needed and saved the file
 
You can't make code idiot-proof. No matter how good you are at coding, the universe is better at making idiots.
 
The problem of "how do I stop a clueless coworker from overwriting the only working copy of the script with an inferior version?" is best solved with source control
I wonder if you can use git on a shared drive...
Using a compiled language instead of Python won't protect you from a sufficiently determined clueless coworker. Then they'll just change the source and recompile it and then the good copies of the code and executable will be gone.
 
Yeah, I've made it my goal to write disclaimers already and each function has a docstring explaining its purpose and every statement will have a comment explaining if something needs to be changed you either touch at your own peril or get in contact with someone who knows what they're doing.
 
4:05 PM
...using git at all would be fine, as long as there's a copy somewhere?
 
Yeah even a local repository would be better than nothing
 
I'd have a hard-copy on my PC and the Lab we'll have running to do the report on will have a copy and the Sharepoint server for our department will have a copy.
 
morning cabbage
it's a documentation-writing day...OH JOY!
 
documentation is the lifeblood of software
 
...and government regulation
 
4:11 PM
I think Sharepoint does have version tracking so you should be able to prevent clueless coworkers from irreversably overwriting the only good copy. No idea how this feature is enabled, or if it's already enabled and just hidden in an obscure corner somewhere, or what.
 
You could change the clueless state of the coworker.
 
If the problem is "the old working copy is still accessible, but the clueless coworker has great political influence so now everyone has to use his inferior version or they'll get in trouble", that's not something that technology can easily fix. Unless brain surgery is an option.
 
Its not an influence thing its a "Hey my department could use this i'm going to make some changes and push the changes across and when yours stops working for whatever reason here take a copy of mine just you know change my stuff to yours you don't need the old version"
Then shit goes wonky and stops working.
Now we have a 45min to an hour mess we get to run bi-weekly
But I think i've fixed that
I hope.
 
@Code-Apprentice I express gratitude to the universe at least once a day for getting to learn to program at a time when documentation and educational resources related to computer programming are so easily obtained and widespread.
 
4:25 PM
@piRSquared talk about NP-hard
 
@Dodge the documentation I am writing for the next three days are not educational resources. They are required by government regulation for a system that I work on. Which means an auditor will at most glance at them but otherwise no one will read them.
 
If the problem is "The project requirements have changed so the old working version no longer does what we need it to do. The clueless coworker's version meets requirements, but is slow. So I can choose between 1) use the slow version as-is 2) improve the slow version 3) rewrite the application from scratch", then #3 seems most fun to me because you get to write Python instead of VBA.
 
sounds like you've made up your mind :P
 
If anyone is familiar with Email protocol I got a question to bounce. Apparently when someone updates our Department Workboard that's on Sharepoint its supposed to send One Mass Email out instead it sends out multiple mass emails (My Supervisor said he made a change and left for lunch and came back to 1800 Emails sent to himself and others)
 
4:37 PM
> he made a change and left for lunch
Famous last words
 
sounds like the start of every horror IT story.
 
He Made a change on the Workboard and left, the Workboard itself automates sending the Emails.
as far as i've been informed
 
First thing I'd check is the settings for CC and BCC. Suppose each email is sent to one user and CC'd to every other user. If you have ten users, then each user will receive ten emails, for a total of one hundred emails sent.
 
guess it does its job "really" well.
 
@AndrasDeak If you want a Horror story he saw someone get fired cause someone left their Laptop open and they made it so every email the person received sent five more copies to himself. he got one email which emailed him five copies which then meant he got emailed twentyfive more copies and so on..
 
4:41 PM
Oof
 
Ah, the good old old email storm. Usually it takes more than one user, but I applaud his ingenuity.
 
Yep. End Result is it Crashed an Email server..
 
Which one got fired?
 
The guy who made the email changes. The one who left his email open i believe got reprimanded for it but kept his job.
I get the whole send me some bogus copies joke but the fact it compounded into the crashing of a server is not what I would want out of the joke..
 
I'd be inclined to reprimand the prankster for misusing resources, and reprimand the email server administrator for not rate-limiting email requests, rather than fire anyone outright
 
4:46 PM
The partner of an old firm I worked for tried to teach me a lesson when I left my computer unlocked... but then he couldn't figure out how to type anything because I was using Dvorak.
 
If the intern erases the production database, the problem is not the intern but your shoddy production database security
 
This is a Big Tech firm that doesn't play around.
 
You can't stop clueless users from destroying their machine, but you can at least put some obstacles in their way
 
@piRSquared security through obscurity
 
(-: exactly. Not that I felt any pride but it was funny.
 
wim
4:49 PM
@piRSquared another dvorak user!
that makes you, me and Martijn
 
I've stopped
it has been forgotten
 
wim
booo
womp womp... unless you changed to colemak ..
 
What I don't understand is why I couldn't get my brain to switch between querty and dvorak. I can play many video games with the same controller but I couldn't get my brain to build muscle memory for both layouts at the same time
 
wim
don't do both. just forget the 19th century typewriter.
 
I stopped because in my not exactly programming job, I had to share my keyboard far too often. It just became a source of pain.
 
4:52 PM
August Dvorak doesn't like de-converts... He may infiltrate your office and move everything around, as a warning to others.
 
yes I know I can switch the layout with a button press
 
I've been contemplating the switch
Purely for street cred. Maybe some reduced wrist strain.
 
"Since you love inefficient organization so much, I put your monitor in the seventh floor ladies' restroom. -A.D."
 
I've seen coders whose fingers fly. I'm not one of those. I think way too long.
 
A. D., good reason for me to switch
But then I'd have to bikeshed dvorak vs colemak
 
4:56 PM
I went dvorak for one purpose. I couldn't learn to touch type because I habitually looked at the keyboard. After dvorak, I could touch type. So when I switched to querty it was really the first time learning to touch type querty.
 
At least August Dvorak's revenge is nonviolent. If you had crossed the Duolingo Owl, then oh boy...
 
I couldn't get any street cred because everytime I mentioned it, nobody knew what I was talking about.
 
wim
wrong street
 
yes... wrong street
 
You were streets ahead of those fools.
 
4:59 PM
I was going to go with "came to the wrong neighbourhood"
 
wim
it is quite amazing what a terrible inefficiency people will happily stick with just because it's what they are used to
 
I wonder how hard it is to retrain myself with a qwertz keyboard
 
not too hard. I bet you could do it in 2 weeks
 
@wim Speaking as a user of qwerty, firefox, and Windows, yep.
 
If I went back or even to colemak... my wife would likely have words
 
5:02 PM
Hey hey hey firefox is nice
 
I'll pretend I didn't see any Firefox hate >:I
 
@Aran-Fey no hate. But what is it?
 
wim
just another dead browser
 
I have had some frustrations, which I will not enumerate because I forget most of them.
 
@wim respect for the dead!
 
5:04 PM
"But Kevin, we can't debate with you unless you make your points known". That's fine, you don't have to defend FF's honor. Leave me to stew in my irrational worldview. Live your life.
 
D: firefox is awesome though
 
Ok, maybe I will enumerate some frustrations.
- uses a lot of memory
- 90% of the extensions I liked got deprecated and don't work any more
- the default location for new bookmarks is the Bookmarks toolbar and not the Bookmarks menu and I have never been able to change this
- sometimes a page will fail to load and display a blank screen and the refresh button does nothing and neither does highlighting the address bar and hitting Enter, so I have to copy the url and open a brand new tab and load it there
 
What's the alternative? Chrome?
 
Now you will refute these by saying "other browsers also use a lot of memory. The Great Deprecation was a long time ago and you should let it go. Not wanting bookmarks in the toolbar is wrongthink and you are a flawed human for that reason. I have never experienced the loading problem myself, so I assume you are imagining it"
 
GoogleBrowser, We Promise Not To Be Very Evil^TM
 
5:13 PM
Then I will say "I guess you should just leave me to stew in my irrational worldview, then"
 
I've seen the reloading problem but ctrl+shift+r usually works
And I can check the bookmark thing from laptop
 
wim
wonder what piR was using when firefox was the boss
 
Opera
 
lol, ff of course (-; And I was excited about it. Often referring to the acid 2 test to show how awesome it was.
wut! chrome chunks on acid2 acid2.acidtests.org/#top
 
Remember when phone chargers used to come in a million different standards, and now there are like two of them? That's how I think of browser rendering quirks. We'll have mostly-consistent behavior eventually, we're just living through the Troubled Times right now.
 
5:26 PM
what is older? Browsers or Cell phones?
 
We're all going to be in a history textbook one day and the schoolchildren will ask "how could they have lived that way?" and the teacher will reply "one day at a time, Billy. One day at a time."
1990 - WorldWideWeb browser is created by Tim Berners-Lee
1993 - Release date of the Mosaic browser

1973 - first handheld phone invented at Motorola
1979 - 1G cellular network established
1983 - first commercially available mobile phone
1996-2000 - PDAs and phones gradually merge into smart phones.
Looks like cell phones win.
 
Kids will never know why they're called "smart" phones
@piRSquared browsers should take a hint from Volkswagen and render that single page correctly
 
5:50 PM
If browsers do that, I hope the acid2 administrators make the page increasingly diabolically difficult to cheat, until the only way to trick the test is to write a complete acid2 compliant rendering engine
In the vein of "test cheating tip: smuggle all the information you require into the exam by memorizing it"
 
Maybe the next step is folded screens which can shrink up to 90% when not in use
 
Or maybe not
 
I don't want my screens to shrink. I want my car to shrink so I can carry it around in a briefcase like in the Jetsons.
 
when not in use - fold is an option too
 
If the car can shrink when it is in use, I hope it shrinks me too. Then I can explore the micro world and tame ants and stuff.
 
5:53 PM
Being prey-sized must be fun...
 
Generally there is the mentality that many devices require hardware. If somebody can print on a cloth graphite curcuits it would be like taking some tempos with you instead of a phone
 
I'm worried that shrinking is bad for you. If each of my atoms shrink, then there may be all sorts of strange interactions with my miniature atoms and normal atoms. If all my atoms stay the same size and I merely lose 90% of them, that's probably going to wreck my DNA.
Maybe there could be some kind of "content-aware resize" that retains my DNA and throws out only nonessential atoms
 
@ExoticBirdsMerchant "devices require hardware" indeed has strong support
 
maybe grow other things round u
phones got a little bigger since 2008
yup u get my point .... not devices but functions we do like calling smbdy, functionalities
 
Doubling the size of everything in the universe but me would probably mess up gravity.
 
5:57 PM
well we gotta do something the universe is expanding we gotta grow bigger too
@kevin doubling my Python knowledge wouldnt be that bad
 
It would be human codec h.264. Then include a style sheet for mini-human size output.
 
Space is expanding, but the amount of matter in it isn't. This has some long term issues, but at least Earth maintains a comfortable 1g.
 
i know it dissipates but a little magic would be nice
 
What dissipates?
 
From context I guess "matter", in the Big Rip scenario. I, too, would like a magical solution to keep the universe from being torn apart into its constituent particles 10e100 years from now.
 
6:02 PM
The other option is heat death... no stars, no light.
 
I choose the option where humanity discovers that unobtanium can reverse entropy, and intelligent life flourishes in a golden age without end
 
The amount of dark energy is increasing, though. As space expands, the dark energy density stays constant.
 
Brb going to upload my consciousness into a dark energy crystal
 
@Kevin I have a pretty grim view of intelligent life on anthropic grounds
Dark energy is just a metaphor for the gaping hole in our understanding of the universe ;)
 
If you're saying "even in universes that could theoretically host a golden age without end, intelligent life is extremely unlikely to reach that state", I agree. I just need that one in a googolplex chance.
 
6:10 PM
Can anyone tell me how I can find the bookmared topics saved in this room?
 
No, I'm saying intelligent life is probably creative at destroying itself and everything else. See also smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-01-28
Or maybe I am saying that, depending on what you're saying I'm saying
 
@taritgoswami Perhaps you are referring to chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/info/6/python?tab=conversations
 
@Kevin Yeah thanks
 
@Kevin wow, so much crap
 
I'm skeptical that it's possible to destroy the enitre universe as that smbc depicts, but I do think that life is really really good at destroying itself.
And that's not necessarily a pessimistic viewpoint. Maybe 99% of intelligent species achieve perpetual world peace, sustainable energy sources, etc etc... And a slightly negative population rate. A million years later and the last person dies contentedly among his loving service robots.
 
6:17 PM
War is in the human condition and can be avoided by interlocking with common institution otherwise different groups of people like EU
Simple and Sad as that
 
@ExoticBirdsMerchant we're not talking about humans
 
i'd just argue that its not intelligent enough.
 
Humans have an evolutionary predisposition to kill all humans
 
That is bad. They need to have the feeling that they belong to the same team in order not to
 
"kill all humans" could probably be argued against. "kill all humans outside their social circle" perhaps, sounds still far fetched but closer to reality.
 
6:21 PM
We are all pack animal.
 
we have relied on community to survive for a very long time. pack mentality
 
well just agriculture changed drastically people thousands of years ago so who knows what kind of radical changes will occur with all the discoveries of the last years ... there is hope that maybe our aggressive predisposition will change
 
@ParitoshSingh in a world with means to kill a lot of humans there's no distance in the long term.
Two circles both wanting the other dead is enough
 
its a grim take on the matter. i can understand it though.
 
@ParitoshSingh yes :P
 
6:24 PM
well there is enough aggression on the world but most of it dissipates into inpotent rage of voting for neo-populist parties
 
haha :P
i do not think its the only inevitable conclusion though
 
@ExoticBirdsMerchant yeah, 20th century was all about embracing life and reconciling our differences
 
many things we explain away from chemical reactions, but some thing about spirituality are well beyond what we can understand.
 
and mutually assured destruction thank God
 
So modern and developed :P
@ParitoshSingh meh
 
6:26 PM
I read Understand web.archive.org/web/20130112204224/http://… this weekend and thought it was fitting that in that story all the intelligence in the universe could not prevent a couple of humans from doing stupid human things.
 
There may not be any saving grace on the other side so to speak, but i think there lies a path worth exploring, that just might not end bad.
 
Well we got to become multiplanetary most of the species that lived on earth are extinct
 
There's always hope, whether esoteric or not. I just wouldn't bet on it :P
 
wonder why my link broke there
 
I refuse to accept that we can't travel in the galaxy there s got to be a way
 
6:28 PM
whitespace or missing []()
 
oh yeah, all bets are off. Only people who claim otherwise don't know enough to know they dont know.
 
@ExoticBirdsMerchant nobody said we can't
 
definitelly we got to find how the universe is made and i dunno if the so called dark matter is something we cant simply detect measure analyse etc or just .. vacuum
 
It's not vacuum.
 
zen mode are the answers out there, or within....i wonder. zen mode off
 
6:31 PM
@AndrasDeak so let's start building some rockets then!!!
 
Ugh
 
we need to do up there find what the heck is going on
 
Rhubarb
 
Thats a plant
Like cbg
 
What's the meaning of cbg?
 
You all keep saying that...
 
AHAH didn't knew lol
 
@ParitoshSingh Thanks :D I didn't know that... :)) I thought it's something else...
 
so Rhubarb
 
6:49 PM
Is there any female programmer in this group?
+ Just wanted to know, females are really less than males in programming

https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2018#developer-profile-_-gender
 
Work work work oh je
 
I'd say the percentages on that page are about what we get in here.
 
@Kevin Maybe even worse :))
 
Hey double clicking a .py script just runs it right?
 
Typically, yeah.
 
7:03 PM
So, one of my functions in a class has print statements but they do not appear in the Cmdline window that opens. The script appears to be running fully though.
 
@RobertFarmer Depends on OS
 
Windows 10.
 
I'm on Windows 10 and I can confirm that double-clicking a .py file makes it run.
 
I'm using Ubuntu, don't know lol
 
Okay, Give me a second I think I know why. I just came upon a realization.
 
7:06 PM
I almost never run scripts by double-clicking on them since the window disappears after the program ends, and I have no way of determining if it ran successfully or crashed two lines in, or what.
I could add try-excepts and logging and input("Press Enter to exit.") but that's all a lot of work that I don't really need to do as long as I keep a command prompt open at all times
 
Yeah, that was the case it ran and closed. I'm running through basic user actions (double clicking files and not running them correctly to root out some bugs and poor usage)
 
May I ask you why you don't use a Gnu-Linux OS? Almost all of my programmer friends say windows is the worst choice for developers.
I thought maybe all of you are using something similar (Linux kernel at least)
 
Richard Stallman just swept away a tear of joy
 
Because Windows came preinstalled on both of my laptops.
 
@Kevin Hmmm... correct, I forgot you don't crack programs!
 
7:16 PM
At character creation I put all my stat points into The first great virtue of programmers
I've grown more well-rounded since then... By putting points into Hubris too
 
I dont use a GNU-Linux right now because my workplace laptop has windows installed and using linux would be hoops I dont want to cross with IT right now. At home I have only my laptop to program, write papers, watch tv, play games and do misc stuff with and so I've kept it with the windows installation out of simplicity. In the future I'm looking towards keeping a windows machine for general use and a linux machine for developer use.
 
I always intended to make my previous laptop into a Linux box after it stopped being my primary machine. But then its fan broke and it could only run without overheating for three minutes, so that plan went down the tubes.
 
Dual boot is easy to set up and there are a ton of tutorials explaining the process for those with an interest in both
 
Maybe I'll try it with my current laptop, which is becoming increasingly decrepit. The hinge broke recently and I have extended its operating life by holding the screen in place with a sort of clamp that I made out of children's construction toys.
The Mark III Clamp is much better than the Mark I Clamp, which required a weekly reapplication of duct tape.
 
I tried to go pure Ubuntu but writing papers on LibreOffice was a complete nightmare
 
7:25 PM
I've tried my luck with Dualboot before I broke the installation somehow after I hadn't used it for a weekend and I couldn't recover from it.
 
@Dodge XY problem. Use latex on linux.
 
When Lappy becomes a Linux box, I expect the screen can flop around at whatever angle it wants since I'll be remoting into it most of the time anyway
 
XY Problem?
 
@Kevin Gnu-Linux OS can easily be your primary laptop.. It has everything that you need, even more!
 
How about Kali Linux?
 
7:26 PM
@RobertFarmer XY Problem.
@RobertFarmer nope
 
@RobertFarmer :)))
 
only the 1337iest of h4xx0rz are worthy of Kali
 
The worst distribution
 
but really, read this
 
@AndrasDeak yeah? I'll look into that, I know basic latex as it stands. It was inserting and formatting figures that made me acquiesce. There are reasons to use both, PowerPoint etc
 
7:29 PM
I'll put Linux on my primary machine when I become confident that xkcd.com/349 will not happen to me in real life.
 
My Network Security Course utilized Kali. It was Painfully Slow and IT had anticipated our class fought the Department on it existing and decided to make the network so restricted our class couldn't do many of our network based assignments.
 
@Dodge I use latex for anything that goes on paper and beamer (a latex package) for anything that goes on a slideshow. But admittedly I'm a scientist and a purist at that, so my use cases and preferences aren't entirely applicable to every possible scenario.
 
"Kali Linux is a distribution for professional penetration testers who are already very familiar with Linux."

Experience has shown me only beginner use Kali Linux
It runs everything with a root access...
 
Yeah.
Not Ideal
 
that's kind of the point of the FAQ I linked
The people you see use Kali are noobs. The people who should be using Kali you never meet.
 
7:32 PM
"The user base of {technology X} is comprised 90% of people that don't know what they're doing" is true for nearly all values of X
I hope that exceptions include "nuclear power plant control software" and "radiation therapy machines" and "airplanes"
 
Airplanes is probably closer to 30%
Other two i couldn't even guess.
 
@Kevin That xkcd comic is legit. I had problems on my Lenovo with the ssd drive but got it figured out after some troubleshooting. Once it's done it is incredibly convenient. I always use myself as a measure for how impossible something might be, "If I can do it, anyone can do it"
 
When you're me levels incompetent that statement becomes literally a law of the universe.
 
The real bottleneck for me is getting the one dopamine molecule in my brain to carom off the "is upgrading worthwhile?" lobe at the right angle
With the correct incentive structure I could probably install Doom on a Fitbit
 
7:49 PM
It also helps if you have some luddite inclination. Personally, I'm put off by all the fancy clicky things that windows tries to cram down my throat. So using linux instead is 100% a boon to me.
one of the best things about linux is the terminal
(yet my mother flinches when I tell her on the phone to "open a terminal"...)
 
There is something comforting about a Linux terminal, no doubt
 
What about dos? any love for that oldie?
 
dos(box) is very useful for playing dos games, yes
the dos prompt reminds me of the windows command prompt too much, alas ;)
 
I only had shareware games for DOS so I have little fondness for the era. Duke Nukem may have been a technological marvel but you can only play the first three levels so many times.
 
I had a nostalgic shock when I learned about the concept of "abandonware"
 
7:56 PM
@AndrasDeak Other things: security, it's so stable, you can install it on any machine, it's free, it's open source, customizable, privacy(I think windows is a spy lol)...
sry..
It got complketed by my addon!
 
I imagine windows is also stable enough if you ignore mandatory updates that restart the machine every once in a while
 
Grab an Rpi and everything up to N64 is free and works near perfectly with RetroPi
 
most people don't care for open source, and "customizable" has become less and less true at least looking at ubuntu+gnome in past years
 
Ooh, Oregon Trail.
 
the more hard-core you go the more customizable you get, but the linuxes that are a competition to windows will always be the convenient high-level ones, like ubuntu (called a gateway drug by a friend of mine)
@Kevin also The Incredible Machine, and Castle of Dr. Brain, and Prince of Persia, and Seek and Destroy... <3
(not sure if I found all of them on that site, but each were easy enough to track down)
 
8:00 PM
Dr. Brain and Super Solvers: Treasure Mountain! were the crown jewels of my elementary school computers course where the teacher didn't care what we did after completing our typing exercises in the first ten minutes of class
 
never heard of the latter, let me check
ah, too educational
 
Or, hmm, was it Castle of Dr Brain? Which is the one where the player character is a kewpie doll that is doing riddles against its will so it can regain its humanity?
The Secret Island of Dr. Quandary is an educational computer puzzle game developed by MECC, which pits the player against a variety of mathematical and logical puzzles. It was released in 1992 for MS-DOS and Macintosh. == Story == The player starts as a human playing in a shooting gallery in Dr. Quandary's carnival, and is given a live-action figure when the shooting game is defeated. However, it is a ruse for Dr. Quandary to put the player in the doll and transport them to his secret island, where the player must gather and brew the Fixer Elixir in order to escape. == Puzzles == There ...
 
Not Castle of Dr Brain.
 
@AndrasDeak I didn't mean only the desktop, it can be customized in many ways, If you want, you can even delete your desktop!
 
most people want and need a desktop
 
8:04 PM
+ There are many free desktop environments
 
Dr. Brain : Dr. Quandary :: Dr Pepper : Dr Thunder
 
Kevin will want to come up with video device-related linux problems if he goes forward with his switch, in order to maintain his charade of being a human typing with his human hands.
 
Just got to ask whats the most New User Friendly Distro for Python.
I know Ubuntu and Mint are okay.
Kali is god-like as it alway will be.
 
"Cannot get my Apple earbuds to pair with my Ubuntu system" is my only real complaint at the moment
 
+ There is something nice about GNU-Linux... You can install windows programs using Wine If you need them
Many of them work correctly for me
 
8:06 PM
@RobertFarmer ugh, will you please drop it with the Kali. It's not a general-purpose OS.
 
I am having problems with my... [consults notes...] "monitor". This is an important peripheral because I definitely don't observe process memory directly by tasting the level of ionization of the air around the RAM contacts.
 
electromagnetic field changes are enough for me
 
I know that, I'm just being sarcastic cause its not General-Purpose. I'm also looking at Fedora for being a future Distro of choice for my future Linux Machine.
 
@RobertFarmer Its repositories, installation and the permissions are not standard.., Forget about it... Besides, you can install everything that exists on Kali-Linux on other distros
If you really like tools install Blackarch :D
 
Kali thing was just me being sarcastic.
Blackarch?
 
8:11 PM
Yeap
 
snap
 
You are underrating Ubuntu. That is where you should start until your skill exceeds your system
 
So Kali v. BlackArch v. Parrot?
 
@RobertFarmer There are more than 2000 tools
 
omg why.
That borderlines excessive.
if not crosses.
I can't forsee why you need 2000+ tools especially if they're all PenTesting Related.
 
8:13 PM
If you are feeling bored, you should check this out - codingbat.com/python - Various warmup exercises with robust solution if you fail so.
 
@RobertFarmer I don't know either lol It's because they want people to get surprised, 2000 tools is the reason of talking about Blackarch :))
 
Honestly If i hit the point in my Programming Career where I can pull off Mr.Robot type stuff then Ill look into it.
 
I also like to base my future plans on tv shows.
 
Hey man l337 h@xx0|? |1f3. On A Serious note if I have a reason to use 2000+ tools i'd give it a go but even looking at Kali can be overwhelming.
and I only used it for assignments where we tested things with definitive concepts of input and the output.
 
@Dodge Driver support for some photocopiers is mine.
 
8:24 PM
@toonarmycaptain Yeah, now that I think about it I've printed from Ubuntu much at all, just stick it on a USB and use the office copier if needed
@toonarmycaptain What was that show you were talking about the other day, I think I might grab the book, it's sort of a dark comedy right?
 
@Dodge Um...Good Omens? [My memory is failing me today.]
 
Yup, that was it, I was googling "Good and Evil"
 
Do grab the book, it's a delightful pairing of Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett.
And yes, it's a dark comedy. Lot of parallels with the Discworld books of PTerry
 
8:42 PM
I guess Discworld is room six favorite? Looks like my introduction to Terry Pratchett will be Good Omens, just read the first five pages on Amazon and will surely finish
 
there are indeed a few fans here
 
@Dodge One of my favourites, anyway. Not many authors have me involuntarily laughing out loud, Pratchett is one of them.
 
 
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11:50 PM
cbg
@toonarmycaptain regarding:
9 hours ago, by toonarmycaptain
@U9-Forward ...I won't know what QML is without googling it.
Lol, nor did i, i was trying to have something where i can implement python code to a framework which does a software you can design, after all make it a mobile app...
 
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