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7:02 PM
@davidism hi
could I ask a silly question
This is called a crack video. Really clever tidbits of awesome editing.
As you can see, there's a really annoying static white noise clip which is played after every funny clip.
I want to write a script to download the clips offline into a directory.
The clips have to be auto cut at the white noise. You get it?
Just point me in the write direction (ie, modules) and I'll get coding.
This is my project for the week.
 
sounds easy. moviepy to extract the frames, and then basic image operations to detect a frame that's almost 100% white
 
Aww thank you, I'll look into this.
 
He said "white noise", not "white"
 
Yeah, it's a clip of static that I want clipped out.
The remaining clips have to be saved as individual files.
 
looking at it more closely, it's more grey-ish than white... but the concept is the same
 
7:09 PM
So you need an algorithm to detect a frame is static vs a frame containing a legit picture
 
The only input I want to generally give the program is the video URL.
@PaulMcG sounds tough when you say it like that
 
@MisterGeeky why were you pinging davidism with your problem?
 
I'm willing to invest the whole week
 
so it has to work with different kinds of static?
 
@AndrasDeak I've made a room with him and he hasn't popped in yet. I don't think he likes me.
 
7:11 PM
I wouldn't like you either if you were harrassing me with no previous history
 
@Rawing Yes. Different crack videos use different static.
 
Well the static is probably random, that's why they call it "static"
 
@AndrasDeak harrassing is a genuinely serious word. Could you elaborate why you think pinging is a form of harrasment?
 
most kinds of static should be "greyscale, roughly 0.5 colour average, high gradient"
 
hmm. that makes things more difficult.
 
7:12 PM
difficult / interesting
Time for tensorflow
 
interesting
@PaulMcG Yay!
 
Maybe overkill
 
> Especially don't use @username notification unless that user has already told you it's okay to ping them; that's like jabbing someone in the shoulder and saying "Hey! Answer me!", and will quickly mark you out as someone to be avoided.
Rule #3
 
Wait, this was a hard rule? Ok.
 
@MisterGeeky because it 1. highlights the message, 2. pops up a notification in chat, 3. leads to an audible ping, 4. gives a notification in one's SO inbox after 15 minutes, 5. what Kevin said
thank goodness for firefox restoring my message box between crashes... I was done with point #4 when it happened just now
 
7:13 PM
This sounds like a serious problem between you guys and SO chat
 
I don't think the usual kinds of static would be too hard to quantify
 
As programmers, why do you leave it to humans to conduct themselves so you are not annoyed rather than telling devs at SO to give you necessary features or ammendments for your needs.
 
"the image is made up of salt and pepper noise" comes close
 
Yes, that's it.
 
@AndrasDeak I prefer paprika noise.
 
7:15 PM
If you're suggesting that we petition the chat developer to have configurable options for pinging notification sounds etc etc, it's been tried and it's like talking to a brick wall. It's much easier to establish a common code of conduct for everyone to follow in order to reduce annoyance.
 
@MorganThrapp my inner patriot is happy about that choice
 
Especially since we have zero leverage on the chat devs, and substantial leverage on regular users (in the form of kicks)
 
Fine, Kevin. Thank you. I will not be pinging anyone until absolutely necessary.
See how I could have pinged Kevin but did not.
 
@AndrasDeak It truly is the best spice, except possibly rosemary.
 
I'm falling in line.
Morgan, why don't you get any flak for pinging?
 
7:16 PM
Chicken paprikas, yum, like my grandmother used to make...
 
Yum
 
Hmm, it's surprisingly difficult to google for methods to detect images composed only of static, because you get a lot of results about "static images" meaning "images that don't move around or change".
 
@MorganThrapp my favourite is probably oregano or something close, but then again there are a lot of dishes I love that don't work without paprika...I just don't think of it as spice
 
> However it is acceptable (and encouraged) to @username people where it assists in the flow of existing conversations.
#4.
 
@Kevin I would just look at the gradient and if it's huge all around, it's probably static
 
7:19 PM
Also, @Kevin. We don't do things because it's easy or hard, we do it because we need to take the right action. The right action may not always be the easiest or even the most efficient way. It is what needs to be done, regardless of it takes cracking open brick walls.
 
Yes, there is probably a pixel-to-pixel difference algorithm that would be high for random noise, but low for a coherent image
 
Pinged this time because it's important
 
Heh
 
Please, stop arguing with the room owners. There are rules which help with acceptable social interaction. Abide by them.
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28 hours.....flip.it/8iVn9o
 
7:20 PM
Please elaborate how you see my words are argument or harrasment.
 
this is like late night lose weight without working out ads
 
28 hours is too much
<30 minutes or bust
 
Pizza rule
 
I for one welcome our pizza overlords
 
As long as the Norwegians aren't in charge of the pizza.
Or the shudder Californians.
 
7:23 PM
ok, should I be upset I was kicked out? I'm sorry, it's 1am here. My english is weird. Please do not affix any tonality to the words I type out, thank you.
 
Nah. In a perfect world everybody would remain completely emotionally neutral towards a kick.
 
it's my second time being kicked here, it always hurts. Why do I come back? I have no idea. I honestly just want to learn. But everytime I craft a sentance, someone gets pissed.
 
The desired elicited response is "hmm, perhaps I should examine my conduct from a different light"
 
Thank you, that was helpful. Not everyone has the same POV.
 
Well, @MisterGeeky, mixed in with all the meta-discussion about room rules and SO chat feature enhancement requests, I think there were some actual nuggets of insight about how you might go about detecting a frame of static. Good luck with your project!
 
7:27 PM
Indeed. a lot of insight. I'll keep you updated and by the 15th, I hope to finish this project.
I just had this idea right as I was going to sleep
 
Hey, this looks useful:
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Q: How can I measure image noise

Vitalii BoiarskyiI've found a few ways of reducing noise from image, but my task is to measure it. So I am interested in algorithm that will give me some number, noise rating. That with that number I will be able to say that one image has less noise than others.

 
I jumped out of bed and pitched it to you guys, means a lot that you helped.
 
you're still welcome to ask if you start solving it and you get stumped
 
Thank you, I might get stumped.
It will be easier if I only target one crack video maker who uses the same static snippet.
 
if I were you, I'd start with still images first
generate static for yourself and play with that first
 
7:30 PM
Hey, the accepted answer on that question sounds suspiciously like something we just heard recently in this very chat room
 
Interesting, I'll try that out. Sounds a bit scary and tough but there's google, I'll figure something.
People have the same thoughts sometimes. #OriginalityMyth
 
@PaulMcG oh man, I missed this remark of yours!
that's an awesome dish, I'm glad you like it:)
do you have distant Eastern European ancestors, or just an artifact?
 
I <3 chicken paprikas (h or no h?)
 
no h :)
(paprikás)
 
Oh, before I leave for the night. Is there any meta room for sopython or should I just ask davidism my queries. Don't want to spam this group with unecessary discussion.
 
7:41 PM
ah! good to know thanks @AndrasDeak :)
 
Huh, I always thought it had an h as well.
 
but who knows, maybe paprikash is an official transcript
 
paprikash, that's a nice name.
 
much like "goulash" which is actually gulyás, pronounced ~goo-yush
 
I've had a recipe saved for a while and always meant to make it. That'll have to be my weekend project.
 
7:42 PM
Ooh, where you save your recipes, Morgan.
 
Yeah, English has a bad habit of phonetically transliterating.
 
"phonetically"
 
I just use Google Keep and tag them as recipe.
@AndrasDeak Hahaha, fair point.
 
I feel like I'm learning more English in here than Python XD
 
@MisterGeeky I don't think you should address davidism directly with anything. If you have enquiries, you can just post them here, and the room owners will likely be able to discuss.
 
7:43 PM
Yes. You are starting to single davidism out in what looks like the sole purpose to troll them.
 
No, metadiscussion should be seperate.
:(
 
@MisterGeeky There's github.com/sopython/sopython-site but that's primarily for the structure of sopython.com rather than its content.
 
idjaw It's easier to talk to one human being who can empathise than a mob. Ever heard of mob mentality?
 
(sorry for the multiple pings; English strikes again)
 
So you could make an issue for "this page isn't rendering right" but perhaps not for "I think rule #23 is dumb"
 
7:44 PM
XD hahaha
beautiful.
alright. alright.
 
We ostensibly have a town hall meta meeting once every three months, but we've missed a couple this year...
 
I think we are due for one now that you mention it
 
@AndrasDeak My mother's parents were both Hungarian. So I grew up with my Hungarian grandmother's cooking - paprikas (both chicken and veal), stuffed cabbage and peppers, and bablaves are the ones I remember most
 
Ah, yes. I shall attend that and remind you that kicks are emotionally hurtful and you need to train us monkeys better if you want the results you expect.
 
@PaulMcG That's awesome!:) As much as someone's origins are thrilling, that is.
 
7:47 PM
All the more proof that we need to get Terry, the bot that posts pictures of baby rabbits whenever anyone gets kicked, back up and running on a stable infrastructure
 
There's a lot of traditional Hungarian cuisine that I can't stand, but the ones you mentioned are exactly the ones I love :)
 
Yes Kevin, yes! Do that! I want to see that!
Hey Kevin, believe it or not. I have a company and guess what, we have a tiny bit of server space to spare.
I could host Terry.
 
woop finished developing stuff in swift you guys
 
@corvid That was quick.
 
cool, swift. that's nice, I'll look into what that is.
 
7:51 PM
Let's see if he still runs...
 
who dares disturb my slumber
 
one day developing stuff in swift, I'm pretty much an expert
 
Yep
 
wow
 
@MorganThrapp *swift
 
7:51 PM
Give us a bun, Ter.
 
it's like programming any other code base, you just copy and paste code from stackoverflow
 
 
@corvid That doesn't seem Objective.
 
@Terry It is I, someone who needs you!
Yes!! wow!
 
Exquisite. Ok, goodnight Terry.
 
7:52 PM
Goodnight Terry
So, can I adopt him and set him up in a few rooms or is there something I need to do for you first?
3 mins ago, by MisterGeeky
Hey Kevin, believe it or not. I have a company and guess what, we have a tiny bit of server space to spare.
 
I believe github.com/sopython/rabbit has the up-to-date source code. Should work wherever if you change the PRIMARY_ROOM_ID value.
 
I have to call my boss now. He's not going to appreciate the midnight call, but I've called him for worse.
 
I think we already have options for hosting, I the team just needs to get off their butt and implement features that aren't just goofy proofs of concept, to make it worth the cpu cycles
 
@Kevin Ping me in 24 hours. I'll try hosting it. Other SEs are missing ggod bots like Terry
Hey guys, don't be lazy. Remember, you can edit a bad page, not a blank page.
 
8:24 PM
@MorganThrapp passing on a message from the missus: make sure you make nokedli to go with it :)
 
I wouldn't have thought to pair them, though I'm only familiar with the German version.
Will do, thanks!
 
and yes, wikipedia says paprikash
we usually eat it with nokedli or fusilli; whatever that has high surface-to-volume ratio for all the good saucy stuff
hmm, it's actually not the surface-to-volume now that I think about it
perhaps surface corrugation...
 
rbrb for me....will most likely be back online this evening
and will most likely be here alone with Andras :P
 
rhubarb
hehe, I should go to sleep in 2 hours, so I'll do just that in at most 4 hours or so;D
 
8:41 PM
Apparently it is unknown whether chat will be affected
If only that project to create machine-learning doubles of all of us had gotten off the ground. We could pretend it's still up.
 
if I remember correctly, it passed uneventfully last time, shorter than 20 minutes
or perhaps it was at a time when I wasn't in front of SO
 
9:37 PM
rbrb all
 
10:00 PM
@vaultah you had the answer to this one, why'd you post it as a comment?
 
user3657941
I need help reopening a question
 
user3657941
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Q: steem pycrypto installation error

StudentuI just ran the "pip install -U steem"-command and the installation worked well until it failed to install pycrypto. Afterwards I did the "pip install cryptography" command because I thought it was the missing package. So my question is, how I can install steem without the pycrypto-error (or the...

 
user3657941
I actually voted to close this as a duplicate. However, after reading the answers in the other question, I realize they are out-of-date.
 
user3657941
The binaries in the links are for older versions of Python. One answer has a link to a DropBox account.
 
10:17 PM
Guys is there any image manipulation library that will give back the coordinates of each pixel of a line? For example if I want to get the avarage color of a line between my two points. How do I fetch those pixels so I can calculate the avarage color?
 
is there any image manipulation library that doesn't let you access individual pixels?
 
@KevinMGranger I often post answers as comments when I don't have time/motivation to write a fully fledged answer
I know some people disapprove of this practice
 
10:38 PM
... but in this case I didn't feel like I had enough knowledge on the subject :D
 
10:56 PM
I'd be lying if said I haven't done the same ;)
 
user3657941
When I first started trying to answer questions on StackOverflow I made some mistakes and got downvotes. After licking my wounds, I noticed that the strategy was to test an answer in the comments and only answer the question after confirmation.
 
user3657941
Yeah, this is where I commented on the situation: stackoverflow.com/questions/33486109/…
 
I'll be ready to start contributing to rabbit, soon. Would one of the ROs mind making a "private" room and inviting me and @TerryNanny (my test account for it)? I would do it myself but I'm not at 1000 rep yet ._.
 
recbg
 
Why the RO requirement though? I don't think we have any privileges outside of this room @KevinMGranger
 
11:08 PM
I've been stirring raspberry jam for more than an hour
 
user3657941
I made a room
 
True, I realized it just needed someone with 1000 rep
 
user3657941
Stirring it by hand? Ah, those were the days.
 
yeah, we're plebs
 
user3657941
I was my Mom's sous chef growing up, "Here. Stand here and stir this. Make sure it doesn't burn on the bottom of the pot."
 
11:10 PM
worst-paying job ever
 
user3657941
I stirred soups, caramel, whatever
 
user3657941
Uh, I got paid in great food
 
user3657941
Free room and board
 
you should've outsourced the job to a sibling (if applicable), then you could've enjoyed the same great food
 
user3657941
Hah! You have not met my brother. He discovered cooking in his twenties and acted like he invented it.
 
user3657941
11:12 PM
But getting him near a kitchen when he was teenager was not going to happen.
 
user3657941
Wow. Just need one more vote to re-open. Guess other people saw what I saw.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if most of those reopen votes came from here
one is definitely mine
 
sings I can show you the world
 
user3657941
I figured they came from here. I'm grateful for the help. I'm sure the OP will feel better as well.
 
user3657941
As you can see in the comments, OP needs a little hand holding
 
user3657941
11:17 PM
Needs to break a few things to realize that it's not the end of the world
 
user3657941
Also, pip really does a great job these days
 
11:27 PM
hmm, second firefox crash in 3 hours
I don't like where this is going
 
user3657941
11:55 PM
What fun thing are you doing that crashes Firefox?
 
that's the thing: nothing!
 
user3657941
So I have a question that can't be answered: How many iterations can be run in 12 hours if the length of the iteration is variable?
 
user3657941
Oh, dear. Doing nothing in Firefox crashes it. Jeepers.
 
user3657941
Yeah, I work with a guy, and he told me to run this test all weekend, so actually 60 hours.
 
user3657941
11:58 PM
But he made me change the test so that I have no idea how long each iteration will be.
 
How long is an iteration? Seconds? Minutes? Hours?
 
user3657941
Previously, an iteration took a a couple of minutes
 
you should have at least a ballpark figure
 
user3657941
I have upper limits and lower limits
 
do 3 or 10 iterations?
 
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