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1:00 PM
Of course there's some subtlety to it... things like nuclei are often non-spherically symmetric due to polarization effects and angular momentum, etc.
 
@AndrasDeak but we don't have elementary particles. Everything (at least AFAIK) is infinitely divisible. So why not subatomic particles that can fit together in the shape of an elephant?
 
The thing is, you determine the shape by scattering stuff on an object (photons, neutrons, stuff). I'm not sure it's possible to scatter stuff on quarks and gluons
 
I think every particle can fit fine into the shape of an elephant because elephants are pretty big.
 
@WayneWerner I wonder if docker can help here. Can it provide image specific ssh for every project?
 
@WayneWerner no, AFAWK the standard model particles are fundamental
 
1:01 PM
Rather like trying to determine the shape of a ping pong ball by running it over with a steamroller
 
@poke we want cute baby elephants
 
@AndrasDeak Yeah - the only thing that we know is how things react at a certain scale
 
 
@poke Agreed. Elephants are at least four times larger than an atom, easily.
 
Like, light through double slits.
 
1:02 PM
@Kevin That appears like an exaggeratedly safe assumption.
 
@khajvah For your circumstance? I mean, it doesn't seem like it would help more or less than what you've already got going
Someone is going to need to update the docker image
 
@WayneWerner they can give ssh access if the server is used for a specific project I am working on
 
Is it possible to make a nano-elephant in < 4 atoms?
 
@MarcusS You should post that on code golf. If anyone can do it, they can.
 
Well if you want to claim elephants are at least five times larger than an atom, be my guest, but I won't be joining you out in Controversial Opinion Land.
 
1:06 PM
@MarcusS probably not:(
 
Yes Kevin, I’ll go there. And I’ll go even further: Elephants are at least six times larger than an atom. – Mark my words: You heard it here first!
 
I'm glad I was sitting down for that bold statement
 
Sorry, should have given you a warning.
 
I'm sorry to say that it seems that my colleagues have failed to concentrate on creating elephants on the nanoscale
As consolation I can offer you batlogo from cold electrons
 
"Don't think of an elephant! Okay, what are you thinking of now?" "Nano-elephants." "..."
 
1:11 PM
@AndrasDeak I guess we can simply postulate that a naked quark is spherically symmetrical, but I don't know how useful that is when it comes to talking about real quarks, since they are rather messy entities, what with color confinement and all those attendant gluons and virtual quarks.
But scattering experiments have certainly been performed on protons (at SLAC, with very fast electrons) that gave results consistent with protons having 3 principal components.
 
what do you mean by principal components? subhadronic stuff?
i.e. being made up of 3 smaller things?
because I don't think anybody doubts that
 
@AndrasDeak The main quarks, aka the valence quarks, in distinction to the virtual quarks.
 
and Wayne's objection was exactly to "simply postulating" that stuff are spherically symmetrical;)
 
\o freezing one hour lacking of sleep cbg :D
 
which part does one hour refer to?
cbg
 
1:19 PM
@AndrasDeak Sure. The collision experiments I mentioned happened almost 50 years ago. They were the first experimental verification that quarks weren't just a nice mathematical theory. physics.aps.org/articles/v7/81
 
It's pretty cold over here, at least -- blizzard warning, too
 
@AndrasDeak something about springing ahead of time by one hour
@MarcusS we got 15-25 cm of snow on it's way starting in 6 hours from now, won't stop till tomorrow night :D what about you ? Stay safe :\
 
woop got some new bose headphones
 
Lucky crow!
 
user6845426
If I have a function that returns 3 variables a,b,c; how would I go about assigning those variables when calling the function? Would it be: a, b, c = self.function_name(..) ?
 
1:27 PM
Did that work when you tried it?
 
no, people are talking about particle mystics here :( I'm outta here
 
@AnttiHaapala I think we've stopped. :)
 
(For those who follow the comedy clown-car that is British poltiics atm - Indyref2 for Scotland is upon us! Indyref Two: The Maddening.) Two more years of everyone being apoplectically furious with each other cause Reasons.
 
indyref2, vote yes :D
 
@khajvah Okay so that took a while longer than I expected it to, but that's just me coming back to JS... You basically want something like this, I suspect: w3schools.com/code/tryit.asp?filename=FDLJDQ1WLERB (or that's what I want, whichever)
 
1:34 PM
@WayneWerner w3fools alert
though I guess that ius ok
 
Yeah, that was the first result that popped up when I searched "try it js". :P
 
off-current-topic: where do you draw the line on answering a home work question? OP clearly made it obvious that it's a homework question, and it's one of those "my prof gave me these pieces, I can't change and I have to fill in the blocks" type of question. OP has showed some effect into filling in the blocks, and is asking for help, which seems rather simple. What would you do ?
 
Answer the question. Presumably there's a specific bit of understanding they lack - especially given they have tried filling in the blocks
they might not understand enough to know what question they should be asking.
but that's what I'd answer
Presumably you can grok from the question that they've asked where their fundamental misunderstanding is
 
morning cabbages
 
@MooingRawr Is it that Royal Flush question?
 
1:42 PM
@MooingRawr ah, I see, thanks. You Canucks always switch DST at the weirdest times
 
yeah that was a weird one
 
@PM2Ring yeah which I answered but I don't think I should keep my answer. :\
 
we need to stop this DST poopfest
 
user6845426
size(..) is a built in function right? Fro some reason, i'm getting 'unresolved reference'
 
@AndrasDeak :D 2 am last night... :D nothing like 1.59 am -1 minute later- 3 am :D
@dipper len(...)
 
1:44 PM
Maybe you should dip in to that documentation to check what's built-in?
 
@WayneWerner that's not me
 
@MooingRawr Hmm. I think your answer may just add to the OP's confusion. At least, you need to make it clear that if self.hands is a royal flush: #key part is here is pseudocode
 
user6845426
thanks guys, and yeh i will. thanks
 
@PM2Ring will do
 
1:47 PM
They don't know how to define a method, or to call it, even though the prof's code shows examples of both. So I suspect that it won't be easy to give them a satifactory answer that doesn't involve writing actual working code for them. And even if you do that, they probably won't really understand it anyway.
 
:\ i will try my best ot answer it slow morning anyways :D
 
They really need a bit of interactive tuition, not a SO answer. They have enough rep to go to a chat room, so it might be worthwhile creating a room for them. But I certainly don't have the energy to tutor them ATM.
 
codementor etc. :P
 
I really should start accepting codementor requests
some of them are very doable for some good coin
 
goodcoin? cryptocurrency naming has become very lazy
 
1:56 PM
oh...I just used coin for money
regular moneys that I can very easily transfer in to my normal bank account for usage of buying diapers and everything else to sustain the children before thinking of buying something fun for myself
 
@khajvah I mean you want to be able to deploy your system using something like that. Otherwise yeah, you're going to have to wait for other devs if they're not going to give you ssh access.
 
@WayneWerner I should just become a senior dev
and get ssh access
 
shrugs there's that, too :)
 
@idjaw (I know)
 
I'm going to be irritated if the OP of Python converting letter to ASCII using ord is entering something like ["A"] for the first input call. "It kept giving me a NameError when I just entered A, so I tried adding stuff until it worked", they'll say.
"worked" here meaning "gave a different error message, on a line slightly farther down than the first one"
 
2:14 PM
@AndrasDeak @MooingRawr I am working on getting rid of the DST in the EU...
 
@AnttiHaapala how ?
 
well, the easy way
 
Chaining himself to parliament until they meet his demands
 
can goodcoin buy good Banh-Mi? The one I bought from my local grocery store was really bad :(
 
lol :D
why was it bad?
i.e. how was it
 
2:18 PM
Wasn't there an episode of Seinfeld where Kramer refuses to observe Daylight Savings, and characteristically it leads to a lot of chaos and confusion?
 
sounds like it would be a Kramer thing to do. But I don't remember that episode
 
it was dry, I got two pieces of flat cut meat, about 6 strips of pickle veggies and one hot pepper in the center :\ and it costed me 3.50 :(
Next time I'm there, I will take a picture for you guys.
 
> KRAMER: Look how dark it’s gettin’ already.
JERRY: Well, it’s not Daylight Savings Time yet.
KRAMER: When does it start?
JERRY: I don’t know, they just tell you the night before.
KRAMER: Uh. Well, I’m sick o’ waiting. I am springin’ ahead riiight now.
JERRY: [under breath] Oh, I’m sure that won’t cause any problems.
 
haha
 
I think it might have been an opening gag so there wasn't actually any on-screen chaos
 
2:20 PM
@Withnail Yeah I saw that. Seriously? facepalm
As I've said elsewhere - it's a strong overreaction to the rugby result.
 
@MooingRawr sounds about right :P
except for the price.
should be 15 cents :P
 
what's that meat, pfft :D
 
2:26 PM
Read that as "this is what I got out of university" and thought it was, like, social commentary.
 
that meat in mooingr's banh mi looks just wrong .d
 
DSM
Monday morning cabbage fir akk,
 
I just got an email from the leader of all teams, 'Currently we have what some would call, spaghetti code. We are now going to set out to unravel our code. We are moving into an n-tier system' ... Guess I know what I'm doing this year :)
 
@MooingRawr that loooks like pulled beef or sth...
 
@DSM ,ptmomh -- jpe str upi ypfsu?
 
2:27 PM
@DSM 3 straight :-) \o cbg
 
or kebab
 
@AnttiHaapala it's beef brisket pulled apart or so they tell me.... I don't know what it is, all i know it's beef and it's what I want right now
 
pfft
that's not proper :D
 
man I shouldn't have skipped breakfast, and start remembering good banh-mi. Mistakes were made :(
 
the pulled beef is quite un-vietnamese.
 
@AnttiHaapala The shop I go too advertised a "fusion-style". I know other good banh-mi has thick cuts of beef :\ but eh, I have low standards :D
 
the things to put inside are grilled meat or cold cuts. Vietnamese do not have ovens, they don't do pulled pork/beef/whatever.
 
> We used to laugh at comedians and listen to politicians. Now we laugh at politicians and listen to comedians.
3
 
I usually go here if I want to get banh mis: yelp.com/biz_photos/banh-mi-saigon-new-york
 
@AnttiHaapala oh god I love those cold "noodle like rubbery texture things" I forget what they are called.. usually they come with cold cuts of meat. I don't know if it's a Vietnamese thing or just an Asian thing.... let me go see if i can google it
 
2:33 PM
@MooingRawr dried meat?
or noodles proper?
 
not dried meat. it was just cold meat that was either cooked or cured...
 
@Kevin shouldn't a shift cipher be like two lines of code?
 
@MarcusS a bit better, but they do not seem to be vietnamese either
their menu has perfect Chinese print but vn is misspelt
 
yeah -- still good, though
 
meaning: they used a VN font but didn't even bother to copy-paste the menu items from those written correctly :P
also, the breads have too much filling to my taste :d
 
2:37 PM
I remember watching one of Anthony Bourdain's series, where he went to Vietnam with his old French boss. oh god that episode made me hungry :(
 
the bread also looks like some pre-baked hard stuff.
in this pic, can see the pattern on the bottom
 
I love Anthony Bourdain. Has anyone read Kitchen Confidential?
 
yes -- it's great
 
so good
I just love his story telling
 
the true vietnamese banh mi is always fresh-baked in the morning from dough. that is the cheapest.
 
2:39 PM
Then watching him on TV, with his narration. Amazing.
 
@idjaw Yes. My sister usually buys his books and pass them to me to read after shes done.
 
Keith Floyd was better :P
 
I feel like hes just so down to Earth. Humble and what not. But personally I wouldn't want to meet him. I feel like I would be so boring and hes so experienced, what would I have to offer for a conversation... I would end up just listening to him talk and have nothing to offer back :\ so no thanks..
 
@idjaw I've got it sitting on my nightstand, haven't gotten a chance to read it yet though.
 
Rather sit in my room and watch his products, in a non creepy way :D
 
2:41 PM
@MorganThrapp I think you'll really enjoy it.
 
@idjaw I'm reading A History of the World in 6 Glasses, but that's next.
 
oooh. That sounds really interesting
 
@MooingRawr Not at all -- he's really easy to talk to
got to meet him briefly at a book signing
 
@idjaw I'm really enjoying it. I picked up that and Drink: A Cultural History of Alcohol by Ian Gately at my friend's used book store.
 
@MarcusS :O
 
2:45 PM
lol no reservations finland starts with bourdain's blood on the floor
 
lol what
 
@MarcusS he tried sauna + bloodletting by cupping :P
starts with "viewer discretion advised" and his blood being rinsed from the bathroom floor lol.
 
@AnttiHaapala Oh was that the same episode he jumps into an ice lake or was it Sweden? I don't remember.
 
@MarcusS are you playing that game ?
 
2:54 PM
gaming talk - I'm really enjoying Rise of The Tomb Raider
I told myself I was going to just play through the main story. But I found myself just going for the side quests too. It's such a great game.
 
I 100% complete the main campaign and was too frustrated to do the bonus content. I still enjoyed it though.
 
@idjaw I remember picking up that game thinking the exact thought too... ended up running around in circles just taking in the pretty animals and landscape.
 
I got it on special when it included all the DLC. So, when I got to a certain part of the game, I got notified I can play all the DLC
 
Yeah I got it during the winter sale.
 
Aaaargh my jimmies are so rustled by Python converting letter to ASCII using ord
 
2:56 PM
Nier is coming this friday :D
 
OP's code as it exists in the post doesn't have an error. Someone posted an obviously incorrect answer, and the OP thinks it works, presumably because he added .strip to his code (which already worked), and observed that it was working, and assumed the strip caused it to work
 
I got Slime Rancher as part of a humble bundle a while ago and it's pretty enjoyable. It's still in beta though, so all the content isn't released yet.
 
:D and it wasn't just OP that was contributing to the rustling :D
 
Also I love it when OPs selectively reply only to some comments and not others. Makes me feel good to get completely ignored
 
@Kevin Don't worry Kevin, the world is big and scary; but you are safe and loved here in room 6 :D
 
3:07 PM
@Kevin yeah that's a common thing for people to do
That's why I try to only ask people one question in an email, because they'll just answer/challenge the easiest thing and ignore the rest
 
I could answer iterating through list in order to return combination of items with "".join(c for seq in zip(*s) for c in seq) but I feel like I shouldn't expose mulitple-for genexps to self-described beginners
 
I don't know how to define this
 
Plus splat, plus zip
 
Wait
Kevin, from the comments, the OP had the solution written down and removed the code before the edit could register
this question is very strange
 
He changed his code block from Input: "".join(['ABCD', 'EFGH', 'IJKL']) to Input: (['ABCD', 'EFGH', 'IJKL'])
With the unwritten implication being "this is what I tried but it did not give the desired output"
 
3:15 PM
I'm staying away from that question. Blood pressure and all
 
Yeah but that's not what he wanted, that's why
From what I can tell
It doesn't seem like a bad question?
 
@RobertGrant It was the build up to what is finally the question and the weird editing and what started off as a bad question.
So, I'm just jumping ship because I lost interest.
 
Aah okay
 
This is probably uncharitable of me, but "I can't wrap my head around X" always seems like a lame excuse to me
 
DSM
Isn't this a duplicate of this?
 
3:19 PM
^^ probably...dupe as such if we agree
 
@Kevin yeah it means "I want academic credit for this thing you're about to do for me"
 
^^
 
"So I can eventually take technical leadership credit for people like you doing things for me in employment"
 
@DSM yes
 
@DSM Yeah.
 
DSM
3:20 PM
So the OP asked the same question twice. The first one has the Right Answer (tm.) so let's close.
 
and downvoted the other
 
DSM
I'm convinced this is also a duplicate of previous questions by other people but laziness > interest.
 
Weird, it was the same OP? Why would he ask the same question again?
 
@Kevin at least it's 3.6
 
Cynical explanation: "My teacher isn't going to accept that I figured out a solution with splatting and list comprehensions, but I can't tell the answerers about that stipulation, so I'll quietly re-ask until I get a more primitive answer"
 
DSM
3:23 PM
If you gaze long into the mind of an OP, the mind of an OP will also gaze into you. And that doesn't sound good.
 
Maybe it's hypocritical of me to deride "I can't wrap my head around X". It's not as though I've never come across a topic where I read the same line ten times without getting it.
Like, I don't know, quaternions or Fourier transforms
I can't say "well it's different for them because clearly they haven't tried, which I know because they haven't written a line of code". I've never written any code using quaternions either.
 
Let's just be honest: you're much smarter than the average OP, so their difficulties are different from your difficulties.
 
DSM
The OP seems to have confused tuples, lists, and strings, at different points. When you're that much of a beginner it's hard to understand where the confusions will be.
 
@AndrasDeak I was thinking something like that (although not quite as self-congratulatory ;-) )
 
Fellow parents. Google Play has Disney movies at too high a price. Are there any other services you frequent for purchasing digital copies of movies? Trying to stock up for a family trip, to keep the kids calm and happy.
 
3:29 PM
rohypnol?
 
LOL!!
 
I lack empathy for OPs that don't understand X, if I was able to grasp X fairly easily. But I should have empathy for OPs failing to understand X, because I have failed to understand Y, where X and Y are not qualitatively different
In the abstract sense of knowledge acquisition, list comprehensions and fourier transforms are of the same class
 
aaaaand this is why I stepped away
 
sooo....the kids are now immune to that
No other details can be provided
oh..wife was on the wrong store....windows store has videos at a higher price LOL
 
3:32 PM
:D
 
@AnttiHaapala Thanks Antti, you helped me resolve a rather longstanding issue I had. Also additional bonus learning more about memoryview in the process. Just merging now!
 
3:44 PM
signing off....Working remote today, and pairing.
rbrb folks
 
\o bye sir
 
Hello
 
hello o.o
 
wim
Europython tickets still not on sale yet??
 
@Withnail problem with GraphQL is it isn't super compatible with a RESTish way of doing things - e.g. the best fit for GraphQL is a single endpoint that you use to query anything
 
4:11 PM
People are weird.
@Zero_Piraeus Thanks for the suggestion, however, it still remains more inconvenient that the dot format incarnation. — NaN 8 hours ago
 
Hmm, wasn't someone asking about splatting f string parameters in the chat room the other day?
I believe their conclusion was "no, you can't do f"{*x}""
 
I find it a little odd that anyone expects to be able to, tbh.
 
Programmers know that anything is possible, but can only hope that it's also easy.
Here we see a little hope die.
 
The thing with the helper function looks perfect to me
 
I wouldn't mind using the helper function, but only if I'm going to call it in more than one place
 
4:17 PM
Yeah, I try to resist having too many of those things about myself, but OTOH
> I routinely need to unpack lists
 
OP should suck it up and use it, then :-D
 
IUALOAT
(is using a lot of acronyms today)
 
Tech has way too many acronyms. There needs to be an acropedia or something.
 
I couldn't guess that one in time. Probably because I've been conditioned to think acronyms ending in "OAT" mean "... Of All Time"
 
Did anyone else here instinctively distrust f-string style interpolation when they first saw it? I had a strong gut reaction along the lines "ugh, that looks like eval, it can't be a good idea" that it took some serious effort to get over when I first encountered it in Ruby.
 
DSM
4:25 PM
No, but I really disliked the duplication involved in .format-style.
 
I feel a certain spookiness when I see the contents of a string being executed as code, but it's a different feeling than seeing eval in action
 
I don't really like the fact that you can run any Python in the braces, but that's partly because it looks like an HTML templating language and so those instincts kick in
 
It's like... Knocking on the door of a dilapidated castle VS watching Dracula levitate himself out of his casket
 
@ZeroPiraeus There was definitely some "ick" at first...
 
DSM
@Kevin: I'd say that would be the unexpected simile of the day but you frequently outdo yourself.
 
4:27 PM
Statistically, very few dilapidated castles contain Dracula. #NotAllCastles
 
@RobertGrant the difference, though, is that the f-strings are only available at uh... well, the same place '{} {}'.format(delete_my_code()) is available.
 
Yeah agree
 
Not sure if you can do any kind of jiggery-pokery with strings that you format. Pretty sure no, at least not beyond what you could do with .format(...)
 
It's just an instinct because of how they look
 
@Kevin Undead Lives Matter.
 
4:28 PM
Yeah, that slogan went down well
 
@WayneWerner Yeah, that's true. You just know people are going to start asking "How do I take the result of input and put it into an f string?", though
 
Very true. Though I have to say having used them for a couple of weeks - I love f strings.
 
People already ask "how do I make this a raw string" so it's inevitable
I expect I'll grow to like f strings just as soon as I upgrade to a Python which supports them
 
My feeling towards them - they're just the right way to do string formatting. Like, we finally figured it out.
 
cbg noon
 
DSM
4:31 PM
I'm looking forward to switching one of my codebases to f strings after 3.6.1 comes out. I arbitrarily decided that unless there was some functionality I needed, I wouldn't change anything until the next-minor-after-major version comes out.
 
Not a bad move
 
.format always felt a bit clunky - even though it had more power than %. And also wasn't a holdover from C.
 
Looking forward to switching new codebase up to 3. One of the packages it depends on has a knock-on dependency that isn't in 3 yet. Going to do a PR for that later and get it brought up to date hopefully.
 
@DSM My former boss liked waiting until the next-minor-after-major version to update Python
 
My only regret is I won't be able to use them in version-agnostic SO answers. The ever increasing gulf between 2.7 syntax and modern syntax isn't making my job any easier.
 
4:33 PM
Happily, all 2.x code will poof into nonexistence in 2020 ;-)
 
bye folks
 
@Kevin you can still use '{0}'.format(fnord) to retain as broad-backwards compatibility as possible
 
DSM
@AndyK: that was brief! Hope it was fun. :-)
 
rbrb @AndyK
 
oh no
it was not fun
the day was long and tedious
but anyway, I kept a zen approach
 
4:34 PM
or you can just use f strings with the understanding that people who aren't using a modern Python are backwards yokels that deserve the frustration of porting the code - or poor sods who just need more frustration to take to their bosses to get the OK for writing modern Python ;)
 
but good thing is
I'm going to run after a month hiatus!
See ya tomo!
 
DSM
Cheers!
 
4:49 PM
What the...? I made a comment on that ASCII ord question a little while ago about using the function args instead of input. And then the guy who wrote the crappy answer made major edits to the question, including getting rid of the args, which were in the OP's original code. :( I'd roll it back myself and leave him a comment, but I'm on my phone and I don't want to mess anything up.
 
Link?
 
And now my flag is useless... and I can't take it back :\
sometimes... OPs.... :(
also I think it might be this link : stackoverflow.com/questions/42765489/…
same question that kevin was getting his "rustled" chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/36087672#36087672
 
I can't get involved until my rustle cooldown timer drops back down to zero
 
DSM
Sound policy, that.
 
@Kevin why?!
who cares about 2.7
if you're programming 2.7, then you'd need to know how to convert Python 3 code to that ancient crap :d
 
5:00 PM
Roughly half of all clueless OPs, whom I will do little dances for in exchange for paltry upvotes
If you can convince the unceasing 1-rep hordes to all switch to 3.X, I won't mind at all
 
ïf there is absolutely no hint that they're using 2, then answer with 3. Then when they say that it doesn't work, then you can tell them to upgrade.
 
That's good advice iff the advice-receiver values their principles over imaginary Internet points
 
you've got less rep than me, what do you care about IP?
 
Hmm ... if I put some cheese in a couple of pittas, and then put the pittas in a toaster, are things going to work out as I hope, or as I fear?
Side question: just how electrically conductive is cheese?
 
5:04 PM
IP doesn't matter as long as it doesn't burn when I'm doing it
 
I may not be the fastest at throwing starfish back into the ocean, but that doesn't matter to the ones I'm throwing
 
@ZeroPiraeus it depends on what you're trying to achieve here.
 
@Kevin wow
 
I am trying to acheive warm toasty pittas with melted cheese in them. I am not trying to acheive a warm toasty toaster with melted cheese inside it.
 
@ZeroPiraeus in toasters I've seen the wiring is on the walls, so dripping cheese shouldn't cause a short. If it does, it'll burn and stink and smoke, so I'd rather not try
 
5:06 PM
@ZeroPiraeus get those little toaster baggies
 
I know not of which you speak.
 
Ehh, I have one of those, but it's at the back of a cupboard full of old cheese (and almost certainly an unappetizing grease/dust paste).
 
I tried googling "electrical conductivity of milk" and there a surprising number of seemingly relevant hits but I don't know what any of them are saying.
 
Wow, there's an Amazon onebox that's massive
Sorry about that, all
 
5:10 PM
> $7.36 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Chile
 
Yeah, don't paste Amazon or Gist links, the oneboxes are awful.
 
Also, unlikely to arrive before lunchtime.
 
Can cheese conduct electricity says "yes" but I think it might be a joke
 
DSM
For $7.36 you could hire someone who knows how to do it with the tools you have at hand to teach you!
 
Wonder if the Amazon onebox rewrites the referrer ID
That would be smart
 
5:12 PM
Is there a cheese.se?
 
> Yes, cheese is in fact a very good conducter of electricity, but must kept at a
temperature of around 0 degrees, due to the fact the electrical current releases
thermal radiation and causes the cheese to melt, which effectively increases the
resistance of the cheese and therefore decreases the current. cheese has been
known to power factories and other powerhouses as an environmentally friendly
way of producing electricity. The most effective way of utilising cheese is in a
cheese factory itself by recycling unwanted cheese back into the system. However
I wonder why that site considered it necessary to break that paragraph into eleven slides
 
What the heck is that thing talking about
 
DSM
That's not the most persuasive paragraph I've ever read.
 
I thought it might be a humorous find/replace of "cheese" with idk "petroleum" or something, but I'm not sure what would actually fit
It sort of sounds like a nuclear reactor but I don't think those are typically cooled to 0 degrees
 
DSM
I don't have access to the whole paper, but "Researchers have reported that electrical conductivity is a linear function for temperature and presented the following model to predict the conductivity of solid foods: σT= σp25 [1+K (T-25)]". Unfortunately it's the first part of the section introducing solid foods, so for all I know the next sentence is "our experiments, however, show this is entirely wrong".
 
5:17 PM
@Kevin 0ºF?
 
Or it could be "and lol yes we got money from someone to try this"
 
Without knowing the units and constants (if any?) of that equation, for all we know it varies between "poorly conductive" and "completely not conductive" at the temperature range we're interested in
@WayneWerner It seems equally dubious for F as it does for C. K is even dubiouser, of course.
 
Can we cool cheese down to 0 Kevins?
 
If you can keep me out of the cheese-making shed. Historically, this has proven difficult; I am exceedingly slippery.
 
Update: sandwich toaster not as nasty as feared. Toasting in progress. Bonus: I can just stick the cheese between two pittas, rather than try to slice them open (they're wholewheat, so a bit sticky/fiddly).
 
5:21 PM
tangentially - Kelvin is kind of a weird measurement, as it's not degrees Kelvin, it's just Kelvins.
@ZeroPiraeus oh you got one of those weird toaster bags?
 
DSM
Good 'ol Kelvin. A police detective looking for something to prove.
 
Notice: site has an irritating popup begging for a subscription. I was too lazy to look for a better page.
 
Now that's lateral thinking.
 
DSM
"These enchanted roses will last 3 magical years" <- practical and elegant.
 
5:26 PM
I suspect there is a correlation between using using seven periods in an ellipsis, and starting electrical fires by following sketchy advice from web strangers
 
@ZeroPiraeus Oh, yeah, those are fine. We had one
 
Are magical years like dog years?
 
Of course, the topic of grilled cheese makes me think of the worst thing ever
 
Let's see, the kids in the Narnia book reigned as monarchs for, what, forty years? And they came back through the wardrobe and like an hour had passed.
 
DSM
"18 things to know about Cadbury creme eggs". I'm surprised I don't already have a subscription.
 
5:28 PM
So let's say the enchanted roses will last... like two and a half minutes.
 
@Kevin note that time also passed independently per domain - so when they came back through they turned back into kids
 
Imagine if the rose from Beauty and the Beast only lasted for like half an hour. I'm imagining a race against time a la Crank
 
haha. That would be pretty awesome
speed dating for True Love™
 
Fast and Furious, but with horse-drawn carriages
 
5:37 PM
I would watch a horse-based variant on the Furious franchise, definitely.
 
DSM
At current rates that'll be "The Fury of the Foal", expected 2021.
 
Good, good. The alliteration is essential to the franchise.
 
5:55 PM
Where do you guys stand on answering a potentially malware/virus/ddos-service type question? What if it was just a smaller part of the overall solution (for example how to block processes/events), how big or small of the piece would be too big for you to want to answer? I read the meta posts on this matter, including the information security meta posts, still on the fence on this matter :\
 
I'll answer it if it's an actually good question. But they usually aren't.
 
@RobertGrant you can always add a . (or anything other than the link) to the message to unonebox it
 

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