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8:00 PM
The employer has to pay you SSP for a time, but normally you'll get sick pay depending on length of service
 
wait a minute. Canada is still part of the Commonwealth....I demand equality here.
I'm protesting
 
Have a chat with Lizzie.
 
I think after I left a company after 7 years, I had 65 days holiday a year and 6 months full pay for off sick, plus another 6 months at half salary
 
My old man has been with the same company for 46 years now.
 
Wow... that's rare these days - my brother's been with the same one for 30 years this year :)
 
8:03 PM
wow
my dad just retired. I think he was just shy of 40
 
He's retiring in 12 weeks.
 
my dad couldn't handle retirement
he took a position at a university
 
He's got plans. He's spent the past 6 years building a woodworking studio for himself in preparation for it.
 
that is awesome
 
huh, guess that was one good thing about the military - we got 30 days annual leave (vacation) and could roll over 15 (or so...cannot remember exact amount) for a max of 65
holiday leave varied by your job
 
8:07 PM
my previous job closed the office for a week around christmas
so that was an extra 5 days there
and they had separate days for "family days"
I think that was 10
 
Evening all
 
is it easy to carry forward your current vacation situation to your next job in the UK?
 
Not in my experience
 
it's almost a given here. If I leave my company with three weeks....the expectation is that you start off with that as a minimum and then you can try to negotiate more
usually you always end up with as much or more moving to your next job
 
Mind you - I've got the best I've ever had this new job - 35 days + Bank holidays + leave to carry over up to 10 at boss's discretion. So I wouldn't have wanted to carry over my old arrangements
 
8:09 PM
I've never carried vacation over or even heard of someone doing that
 
I've never talked leave in job negotiations. Always been purely salary and bonus arrangements.
 
....granted, most of my job hunting has been during a recession sssooo
 
negotiating salary is common. However, it is easier with more experienced individuals coming in to a job.
If you are more junior...you are pretty much looking at the default 2 weeks
There are startups here adopting the "unlimited vacation" thing....but that's not very common
 
junior or a big break in one's work history (in the industry)
 
Hello!
 
8:18 PM
hello
 
I'm new here
 
welcome
 
thanks
 
yay! my k-means tests are working :)...was going crazy working on those (sometimes all you need is to walk away and let your subconscious work)
 
awesome!
 
8:19 PM
Can chats be used to clarify things? Talk about questions?
 
Yes, but also, you can check out the chat rules: sopython.com/chatroom
 
yes, just ask your question - though be aware that if you need the OP to clarify a question it is better to comment
 
Well I have been the OP
I have been working in a simple socket server-client chat and the clients don't succeed to talk to each other
And I feel I'm really close for doing it work
I feel I have a very little mistake
 
you can ask your question and if anyone here can/wants to answer, they will.
 
In server script I have 2 sockets of 2 clients respectively client1 and client2. I receive a string sent by client1. How do I send back this string both to client1 and client2?
 
9:01 PM
Just a word to the wise @Pichi... There's an account called Adam Modern asking a rather similar question... It's generally not good practice to ask from different accounts, or if that's not your account and you're asking questions with very similar wording, people may be suspicious this is a question for a class / assignment or something.
 
Detective JRS? :p
 
nah - just helping out - it's easy to get carried away when you've got a burning issue...
 
@JRichardSnape You best act fast when you've got a burning issue, as children typically can't deal with flames very well on their own.
 
@JRichardSnape I understand. I will take care of doing more original questions. I'm sorry, I'm a bit new.
 
9:24 PM
@PichiWuana it's perfectly fine being new - we were all once to one thing or another
we just tended to read the rules and do a bit of research first is all :)
 
Yes I understand, my bad!
 
asked yesterday (I'm pretty sure) to downvotes, today posted again with two upvotes
 
9:42 PM
quality + " " + wep_adj + " " + weapon_type " of " + wep_add + " +" + str(plus)
I am getting an invalid syntax error where it highlights the " after of, does anyone know why?
nevermind I found it. forgot a + after weapon_type
 
@davidism closed
 
I am making a equipment generator for a game and am running into a problem. http://ideone.com/sH3Or0
The way it is now the while loop never ends. If I get rid of the bottom make_item it never runs, before I put in make_item() in the while loop to make a new item instead of the same one, it worked fine but made the same item, you can see that here
http://ideone.com/HXVdS5
If you want my full code you can view that here:
http://ideone.com/CWHp4C
 
10:32 PM
@idjaw one I forgot to mention the other day: youtube.com/watch?v=5cV8e-0V1OY&nohtml5=False
 
@Shniper fix your indentation (or fix it on your paste as right now that is giving an error)
 
It broke when i pasted it on ideone, Ill try putting it on pastebin i guess
http://pastebin.com/iLF9Ccvu <- Full code
http://pastebin.com/nSxGyhyw <- Part with problem
 
10:51 PM
elif quality_eq >= .93 and quality_eq <.98: is not attached to a parent if
 
if quality_eq < .45:
quality = possible_qualities[0]
elif quality_eq >= .45 and quality_eq < .75:
quality = possible_qualities[1]
elif quality_eq >= .75 and quality_eq <.88:
quality = possible_qualities[2]
elif quality_eq >= .85 and quality_eq <.93:
quality = possible_qualities[3]
elif quality_eq >= .93 and quality_eq <.98:
quality = possible_qualities[4]
else:
quality = possible_qualities[5]

How not?
 
line 29
on your pastebin - it is not attached to the longer if try you just posted
 
It looks like the code got messed up again. I'll have to fix it -.-
 
also your indentation is way off - are you mixing tabs and spaces?
 
@Shniper what you really need to do is reduce this to a mcve
we are not a free debugging service
Try inspecting what your code is doing. Print out values. Step through with a debugger. Etc.
 
10:58 PM
I've been trying to debug it the whole time ive had this posted, I'm not saying this is a debugging service. Also my knowledge of python is very limited, thats why I'm constantly asking for help and my code looks terrible
 
1 min ago, by davidism
Try inspecting what your code is doing. Print out values. Step through with a debugger. Etc.
You have posted an unreasonable amount of code. Rather than saying "I don't know what I'm doing" do what I said above and start getting better at it.
 
11:11 PM
I used a debugger before posting, no errors come up
 
Yeah, because an infinite loop isn't an error. You still need to debug what's causing it.
 
@Shniper if no error from a debugger (which is likely with a while loop problem as that is most likely a logic error - ie. not an actual error) then go to the first step in davidism's quote Print out values
this is not to be mean but in most languages, printing out values when looping problems occurs - usually points to the problem (ie. something is not being assigned the value you think it is)
 
items_made referenced before assignment. But the first time it is referenced is items_made = 0
 
DSM
11:38 PM
Brief cabbage. I see the site is in maintenance?
 
Yeah, I'm getting that too - thank goodness for cacheing
 
DSM
I always thought it was funny how people use "momentarily" to mean both "for a moment" and "in a moment". When they say "We are bringing primary SQL up momentarily" my first thought is "well, what use will that be?"
 
I would basically hear/read that as "we're only going to have it up for a moment then back down - so don't try and use the database"
 
DSM
From the sounds of it they meant it in the "in a moment" sense. So soon order will be restored to the universe.
 
oh, I didn't even realize that was a message on the page - I've just heard people say similar things & gotten people very annoyed with me when I was running programs/updates/database admin stuff cause I've made statements like that and not been understood :\ :)
 
11:50 PM
I was able to fix the problem. Still not 100% sure why my original code had a problem but if anyone cares to see the fix pastebin.com/mJV1Lzcb
 
esp. back when I worked on POS systems
 
DSM
That turned out to be briefer than I thought. :-) Sunday rhubarb for all!
 
see ya DSM
 
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