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6:00 AM
i wonder if quines are possible in assembler
 
i admit that assembly language restricts you to a certain processor (family) but stilll.. it is so liberating to have control over the target computer's resources
and it damned sure forces you to program well
 
i've never used assembler
does everyone here have a CS degree ?
 
what is CS?
 
computer science
 
two of 'em
 
6:04 AM
since everyone here is much smarter than the average bear, just remember what you are actually doing when you write code. Remember and understand that you are flipping switches, and that the goal is O(1) ways to flip those switches, and then there are O(n^n) ways to flip those switches. So, please try to make your programming decisions closer to the O(1) ways to flip those switches. :-)
 
damn
 
i have 2 master degress: electrical engineering and finances
 
will i be forever cursed in my programming career if i dont have a CS degree?
 
zerkms should understand the great cost of electrity
 
maybe, but probably not
how's your luck? :)
 
6:06 AM
consdering my requests for version control still falls on deaf ears -- quite unlucky
 
no, alex.. you should be the one who teaches us
 
@alex: which one do you prefer?
 
im having quite the personal dilemma with whether I should get a degree or not
 
and my profs at least point that out to us constantly :-)
 
@zerkms I have barely any experience with them because of not using them at work - i didnt mind git
 
6:07 AM
i think that engineering degree is a must-have
 
sounds like you should get the degree so that you can teach the prof
 
i shouldnt of been so stupid when I was 18!
:P
 
@alex: then try to start mercurial :-)
 
we are constantly providing RL backfeed to our profs
 
@Quinn1000 Me teach a professor? You're kidding right?
unless i misinterpreted the prof abbreviation
 
6:08 AM
happens all the time at college :/
 
no, i am not. they get locked in. i made my CS prof rich my pointing out back in 1992 that big O had little to do with game programming
 
when you guys did a CS degree how did you support yourself financially - thats my biggest worry
 
he gave me an A
but he got rich
 
unless you're at MIT or Stanford or CMU, it's not unusual that someone else in the room knows more about the subject than the professor
 
wow
 
6:10 AM
i started my business the same year i started college
building webapps, selling things, ads on content sites, every revenue model i could think of
 
"unless you're at MIT or Stanford or CMU, it's not unusual that someone else in the room knows more about the subject than the professor" --- lol
 
thats what paid for it
 
yah, remember that when you speak out in class that the other students hear you. don't let your knowledge/experience go to waste because we are all listening
 
i thought it is possible only here, in this damn country
 
and the degree will get you in the door... i sure as hell can tell you about that
i have no degree yet.. and until i get it?
 
6:12 AM
is it possible to do a CS degree with night classes?
 
the fact that i have 100+ hours school and 50000+ hours experience RL ...
that piece of paper makes the diff
yes
but you have to do the math :-(
 
its easy to get a masters degree at night, i dont know if you can get a bachelors degree from a good school at night
 
hmm
 
i am in VA
you can do it, but it's tough
 
graduate programs are usually built for adults, undergraduate assume you'll be around all day
 
6:13 AM
think i'll have to move from the quiet place I live - at least quite for technical jobs. 90% of jobs here and non technical
 
calc I,. II are the real thing
not applied here
NC used to only want Applied Calc
 
hehe, i tested out of all calculus for college :>
 
nah, here in VA you can only test INTO calc I
and you'll hit proofs right of
(delta-epsilon)
 
I once submitted a proof that the moon is made of cheese, in a college math class, and got an A
is VA a school?
 
that's great but you'll have to figure out delta-epsilon proofs.. the whole system is geared towards UVA/George Mason
but maybe other states are easier
 
6:16 AM
WTF submitted
 
i got an A in Calc I but II is so kicking my ass and I am SOOOO good at CS classes
 
a proof in a CS degree is something like proving the pumping lemma for regular languages
not calculus limits :/
 
i wish.. we have guys who have been working in programming (Java) (C++) for years that come into our program and then fail
 
In the theory of formal languages, the pumping lemma for regular languages describes an essential property of all regular languages. Informally, it says that all sufficiently long words in a regular language may be pumped - that is, have a middle section of the word repeated an arbitrary number of times - to produce a new word which also lies within the same language. The pumping lemma was first articulated by Y. Bar-Hillel, Micha A. Perles, Eli Shamir in 1961. It is useful for disproving the regularity of a specific language in question. It is one of a few pumping lemmas, each with a simi...
 
you have to actually learn programming on the lowest level :-(
 
6:18 AM
that's CS math, you haven't gotten there yet, freshman??
 
project 2 of 4 for csc 202: design a java program that will add/subtract/multiply/divide/raise power of/root a multiple-precision value
(without using predefined BigInt libraries etc)
but it's a lot of fun
 
I so "like" sintetic tasks based on limitations like "without using predefined BigInt libraries"
 
me too :-)
 
eh i dont like those classes in a CS program, we can learn to program ourselves easily, its the theory thats important
 
right, theory
 
6:23 AM
i actually don't, that is why quotes around "like"
 
no classes on java/c++/whatever language programming
 
my one prof has an uncanny .. spooky.. scary.. ability to bench check algos that usually only computers can do
 
the art of programming - is to write proper/supportable solution
not the solution that fits in stupid limitations just because you want it
 
like the Photoshop paintfill recursive algorithm
we were all like: eyeswide,. handsontopofhead
 
hehe, you'll think it's simplistic eventually
when you can understand the math behind content-aware fill!
 
6:25 AM
when he manually showed us how Photoshop could fill a nonregular with a given color on a whiteboard
but he did it in a matter of 5 minutes
 
does anyone watch WSOP 2010 here?
 
just try to make it through the introduction of the paper that details the algorithm behind Photoshop's Content-Aware Fill
"First, although the dimensionality
of the patch space is large (m dimensions), it is sparsely populated
(O(M) patches). Many previous methods have accelerated
the nearest neighbor search by attacking the dimensionality of the
patch space using tree structures (e.g., kd-tree, which can search
in O(mMlogM) time) and dimensionality reduction methods (e.g.,
PCA). In contrast, our algorithm searches in the 2-D space of possible
patch offsets, achieving greater speed and memory efficiency."
 
personally i think he should not give us eaxms like he does (no book, no notes, no computer) but i admit that when he gives us blank paper and says 'write this program' we earn our grades (CSC201 we started with 24 and ended with 7 people)
those that can't do, have to go IT
it's real
 
and thus the shortage of skilled software engineers?
 
omg
 
6:28 AM
well that's how it is
 
you're far too impressed at your CS program =p
 
/me imagined: write on the paper, scan, compile, print, fix it, scan again, compile
 
those that do, get a CS degree, those that don't get an IT degree. And those in IT are not less hardcore than CS honestly.
 
they just are better at applying than theory.
the world needs CS and IT. It's good that they split them off.
 
6:31 AM
I had a facepalm moment at a job interview over that once.
 
i think you're stereotyping a bit too much
 
I couldn't hack being IT, honeslty, because I couldn't memorize that much data without evaluating it indivually.
 
there are plenty of people that do the same jobs with either degree
 
"Why does your university give great distinction to someone having only an 80% average. They must have low standards. Local college only gives that to people having a 90%."
 
and if you're a software engineer in a company that doesn't sell software as its business, you're in the IT dept...
 
6:32 AM
Right, but the IT couldn't say why what he/she had done that caused the sstem to crash. I could.
 
the only time you're really a computer scientist is if you're in the research department of a california company
pffth the IT guy probably has a much better idea
 
@mootinator: 90% of what? of all students amount?
 
the sys admin will know that there's a bug in the 2.6.21 kernel that causes the IP stack to crash on a malformed UDP packet... you'll have no clue
 
No, really. Here in VA they are pushing us towards DARPA. That is the holy grail. If you get a CS degree in VA you better be able to explain why a ballistic missile did not land within .0001 meters of its target. If you cannot explain that, then you obviously replacable.
 
@zerkms like A instead of B
 
6:36 AM
So you're training to be in QA??
 
no, i just want to have that kind of precision
they kind of set the bar
i was on the tanks
(M1A1)
i understand their methodology and know that it works from a HR point of view
 
@mootinator: it is 95% A instead of B required here
 
aka 'do your job or fail'
 
They want missiles to be within 1 micron?
 
they want to not kill innocents
honestly
that is the big uber goal of the US military
let's deliver munitions without hurting a single innnocent
 
6:39 AM
@zerkms Either way, professors mess around with their curricula until grades are in the target range for that school.
 
that is the goal
 
@Quinn1000 That seems... wrong.
 
the US will go ahead and let Osama go if a given percentage says that letting hi go will
etc
what's that formula?
I want it.. Obama needs it so that he can get that guy
CS formula of 2010:
Osama killed == 1
Cost to get == 0
 
Osama.Dispose();
I can haz government contract now?
 
no, the only way it will go:
Osama declares OFFICIALY:
 
6:43 AM
I AM DEAD
 
"The United States is NOT Satan"
AND
 
No, Satan is a good hockey player though.
 
"Europe is NOT Satan"
 
you're tempting me to talk politics, and i dont want to talk politics here
 
politics talkings are boring
 
6:44 AM
hey, us programmers could come up with a formula
given RW data
i know some thinktanks
they would listen
 
Hey, I'm a wannabe politician.
 
so, as much as we all hate to pull stats
 
It's not boring, it's stupid.
 
/agree
I try to avoid it for that reason.
 
aren't we the ones who couldl pulll the numbers to PUSH the data towards one decision or another?
couldn't we at least avoid destruction?
 
6:46 AM
i dont even follow you anymore quinn...
 
@DanGrossman: omg, the performance question
 
COULD NOT WE AT LEAST AVOID DESRUCTION?
 
oh you are there too? :)
 
yep
 
LOL i hope the aliens are watching
 
6:47 AM
i've answered the same I answer each similar question
 
blink
 
trutst me its always on our heads
 
Why am I not in bed.
 
but I bet he will check the answer that already got +2
 
6:48 AM
he'll spend hours deciding what way to write his <?php tags, when one database query will be 100 times more time
 
because ou know that this is that important
 
Yes, I'm hanging on your every non-sequitur.
 
hey, GMC
GMC
give me credit
 
Are you calling for a truck company now?
 
Ahhh.
 
6:50 AM
GMC == give me credit
 
hard to aviod the parts
 
You're right, just because I don't follow at 1am doesn't meant it doesn't follow.
 
beatuiful
 
In ideal conditions.
 
6:51 AM
hey everyone.. go left
ok, sry guys.. closing opening
 
[left]
The Lounge
This cozy lounge lies directly above the Western Hall. A warm, circular
fireplace in the middle of the room burns brightly, and a spiral staircase
next to this leads downward into the main hall. A bookshelf dominates the
eastern wall, while a sofa rests beside the fireplace and a love seat sits
in a far corner. The lounge is usually a very quiet place.
Exits: north east west down
 
look grue
 
<1344hp 1247m 690mv> <New Darkhaven|HT|9,022,241> <> look grue
You do not see that here.
 
down
 
The Western Hall
You enter a large building filled with people. The building is usually
busy with functions, almost always filled to the maximum. The large main
hall boasts a maid who comes around serving drinks and meals to the people
who sit down. The lounge is above on the top level, and Horizon street
lies to the north.
Exits: north up
An important looking scroll hangs from a wooden board.
 
6:54 AM
look scroll
 
The scroll has been firmly pinned in place and bears the great seal of
Darkhaven, confirming its authority...
____________________________________________________________
/\ \
\_| |
| Be it known that Marianna, citizen and Waitress |
| of Darkhaven, has been granted, by reason of our |
| personal favour, full and free licence to defend |
| her person against attack, by use of whatever |
   |                                                           |
   |   Given under the seal of Luther, Duke of Darkhaven,      |
   |   this 9th day of the Month of the Frost Giant.           |
   |                                                           |
   |   ________________________________________________________|_
   \_/_________________________________________________________/
Marianna wonders 'Will that be all?'
Marianna, a waitress for the Western Hall awaits your order.
 
attack marianna
 
Marianna grazes you.
A large man charges out from a back room, wielding a larger club.
<THUNK> Your eyes see white, your ears ring, and...
..Everything begins to fade to black.

You feel yourself leaving your body... rising up into the air, you feel
more free than you have ever felt before...
 
I guess that was an important message after all.
 
now I find my body...
The corpse of Thartos is lying here.
A pool of spilled blood lies here.
Marianna, a waitress for the Western Hall awaits your order.
well that was fun :)
Your surroundings begin to fade as a mystical swirling vortex of colors
envelops your body... When you come to, things are not as they were.

A strange voice says, 'We await your return, Thartos...'
Connection closed by foreign host.
 
6:57 AM
lol
Thanks for that.
 
still running, telnet port 4000, after 14 years...
Realms of Despair
 
hey sry back
push back like MMORPG push me
i am here
really
 
You have been turned into a newt.
 
i wonder at what point we started calling them MMORPGs
MUD worked just fine.
WoW is a MUD with graphics.
 
3
A: Finding closest element value jquery

Ian HenryIn the markup you demonstrated, this should do what you want: $('.click').click(function() { $('#sample').text($(this).siblings('.get').text()); }); Note that if there are multiple siblings with the class of get, this may not do what you want. It'll return the first sibling with that class...

 
7:00 AM
exactly.. i would better be asked what is your hex
and i would say
 
hate when someone stole your answer and give it more detailed
 
a GMUD
 
argh
 
112233
that is me
hard to define a particular char
wtf?
 
I think they turned into MMORPGS when character position started mattering aside from what room you're in.
 
7:02 AM
who cand efine who is who?
 
Quinn, you're not making much sense
 
yah its hard
 
I didn't need to know that
 
lets go binary ascii
 
@Quinn1000 I thought you were 464401
 
7:04 AM
nop
i was
but then
damned lets not go hardcore
wish i was
bulletproof
 
Okay, gnight then.
 
Wez
good morning thrusday
 
@Wez: thanks god I'm living in GMT+10 and my morning is already far away
 
dammit go away from me
like kicking shit off my my feet
 
7:09 AM
Is it my poor english knowledge or @Quinn1000 is talking strange things?
 
Wez
GMT+2 here. need caffeine
 
yah -audio so+ stim
haha visuals
 
Quinn, can you not talk gibberish please?
This isn't IRC, this is a permanent medium
 
Good morning
 
7:11 AM
time to go to sleep
nn all
 
hi myra
 
hi dan,how are you ?
 
i'm feeling great :) how about you?
 
i'm fine
where are you from ?
 
Pennsylvania, USA. It's 2:20AM here.
 
7:20 AM
Oh that's a bit late
 
i always stay up late
 
Somebody hire me to work in USA
))
 
0
A: How to add numbers after decimal using php

Dan GrossmanThe function is number_format http://php.net/manual/en/function.number-format.php Always search the PHP manual first :)

tagged: numberformat
 
@DanGrossman: i'm sure numberformat cannot append .00
 
it does
 
7:22 AM
but sprintf() can
 
the first parameter is number of decimal places
 
is it?
oh
 
0
Q: my simple database insert function

user393087function tobase($dbname,$tblname,$arr,$pkname='id') { $number_of_arrays = array_reduce($arr, function($rV, $cV) { return $rV + is_array($cV);}, 0); if ($number_of_arrays == 0) $arr = array($arr); elseif (count($arr) != $number_of_arrays) exit('tobase: mixed array'); $db = new PDO...

There is no question..
 
@DanGrossman: answered there
 
hahahaha
 
7:28 AM
:-(
downvoted
@DanGrossman: have you tried to read his code?
foreach(array_diff(array_keys($values),$tablecols) as $diffcol) $db->exec("ALTER TABLE $tblname ADD COLUMN $diffcol");
he is altering the table according the input array
omg
 
yes, it's a joke
"simple" insert function
it will make whatever table is necessary to perform the INSERT, and if the row already exists, UPDATE it instead
 
then probably i've lost my sense of humour somewhere
:-S
btw, 30 minutes left to the end of the work day
 
Wez
7:43 AM
got caught up in this stuff called work, why does it never end? ;P
sıɥʇ ǝʞıl slǝǝɟ ʎɐpoʇ
 
i'll do your job for 75% of your pay
you stay at home and keep the other 25%
 
@DanGrossman: deal
;-)
 
Wez
I never tried working with SDL before this week, wow is it easy and smooth!
 
SDL?
 
Wez
its a multi platform layer for input, sound and graphics
Simple Directmedia Layer
 
8:19 AM
SDL? link!
 
user69820
8:36 AM
 
9:07 AM
@thegravytalker Takk!
 
Takk? Norwegian?
 
hello?
any expert on linq?
 
user69820
@KyleSevenoaks you wot?
 
@thegravytalker Sorry, thanks! got mixed up between languages.
@LasseVKarlsen Yes, Norwegian!
 
any expert on c#
 
user69820
9:20 AM
@CesarLopez I have seen C# and have written a program that prints "Hello, world!". Does that count?
 
@CesarLopez: Better if you just ask your question, but note that there is a C# room as well

C#

General discussions about the c# language, Squirrels | gist.gi...
 
sorry for the delay, I think I need a bit more experience person.
but thanks for the offer tho.
 
user69820
@CesarLopez i lose so many clients that way :(
 
@Cesar - if you have a question, please ask (perhaps in the C# room) - otherwise we won't know if we can answer it ;p Note that if it is an actual Q&A style question, SO itself may be a better home.
2
Rest assured there are plenty of people here who know lots about LINQ...
 
10:12 AM
I hate this new font craze. I don't know which font it is, but it's all caps, it's ugly and it's everywhere!
</vent>
Taken from math.stackexchange (even SO sites are using it!) font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;.. Does anyone else hate this font?
 
10:25 AM
@KyleSevenoaks Comic Sans wasn't mentioned, so I don't care...
 
user69820
not me, I'm tolerant of all fonts, no matter the shape, size or colour
 
@thegravytalker even for 72pt orange on green background?
 
that sounds like something I'd design...
 
@OlegKuznetsov Agreed, Comic sans is the Satanspawn of all fonts, but this one for me is almost as obnoxious, and it's everywhere! It reads like military general barking orders at me.
 
user69820
i like consolas. it is the lord's font
 
10:32 AM
@KyleSevenoaks The only font, which is interesting for me is the one in the IDE. Any other (outside of IDE) is ok for me (except Comic Sans, of course)
 
@thegravytalker Very scriptual! :D
@OlegKuznetsov Fair enough. I just dislike trnds, especially with ugly fonts and things that make my head ache :)
 
user69820
@KyleSevenoaks hallelujah
 
@thegravytalker :D
 
user69820
due to the fact that I have not a creative bone in my body, my next project will be rendered totally in 72pt orange on green
 
10:41 AM
@thegravytalker Oh, my GOST >_<
 
user69820
with generous use of the <blink/> and <marquee/> tags
 
@thegravytalker Your client will be overjoyed...
 
user69820
@KyleSevenoaks they are colourblind and partially sighted so it will all work out in the end
 
user69820
and prone to epileptic fits
 
@thegravytalker And don't forget to use mix of capital-lower_case letters!
 
user69820
10:45 AM
lIKE tHIS?
 
@thegravytalker Ha! You'll be remembered at least!
 
@thegravytalker sure! AwEsOmE, IsN't iT? :)
 
user69820
@KyleSevenoaks @OlegKuznetsov they will be stunned and agog as I demo the site before driving away in my batmobile
 
@thegravytalker :D sounds like the perfect plan!
 
@thegravytalker lol :)
 
10:48 AM
hi
 
Hola.
 
Hehe... Seems to me, I know that guy with starred adekdot about Java )
 
@Nakilon Zerkms?
 
@KyleSevenoaks yeah, saw his somewhere in IRC
 
:) We get around...
 
 
1 hour later…
12:25 PM
Anyone here dealing with Recurring Payments in Paypal in the UK?
 
1:16 PM
@digiguru Probably a better fit for Superuser.com
 
1:35 PM
good morning
 
user69820
afternoon
 
Aah, the other side of "the pond" ? How goes it?
 
user69820
sluggish. just got back from the pub. how about you?
 
just got into work, waiting for pub time :)
 

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