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00:49
@Machavity An improvement to the best screenshot: i.sstatic.net/GlqBL.jpg
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@StephenOstermiller Oh, that is good
01:11
@HovercraftFullOfEels pity it is not a freehand circle :)
 
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03:10
@StephenOstermiller Well played, sir
Does anyone know about ? And is this question programming related?
03:57
@JasonLiam Isn't that "typo" always going to be the cause of that error? Wouldn't having a Q&A that people can find from a search that says "You meant to link with the object file, not your previously compiled executable." be likely to help future readers?
(it is, of course, possible that it's a duplicate and that we already have such a question)
Although I can't quite find one. I found one for GCC but that seems to use a different command-line option (-c vs -o) than the one suggested in the comment.
04:15
@RyanM Yes it can perhaps be useful that way. Also there may exist a dupe for this(but i have not searched for a dupe in this case)
 
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05:45
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by tripleee
@metasmoke @4b0 given that the user came back and posted obvious spam today, maybe review your NAA
@4b0 ^ not sure if the pasted ping will ping you, so pinging you again /-:
06:44
What's the trick with fixing the screwy formatting on this one? stackoverflow.com/q/74780788/2943403 It looks right in the editor preview, but not in the saved post.
@mickmackusa It's usually that there's something on the line immediately before or after the table. Renders OK in the editor but not when saved. Just insert a blank line before and after.
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07:00
I've noticed the same. Table formatting gets messed up in the saved post if the table isn't surrounded by blank lines, but looks OK in the editor.
07:12
@DavidBuck Yeah, that was it, Nigel fixed it.
 
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> I tried contacting Google Analytics support and they pointed me to Stack Overflow.
Is "Google Meat" (sic) where folks get together to create spam?
10:30
@AdrianMole pretty sure it's a dish in the cafes
11:01
stackoverflow.com/questions/74782769/… doesn’t seem likely to be valuable enough to future readers/searchers to merit keeping around. But I can understand that others may not agree, so I don’t want to unilaterally delete it. And so this isn’t a formal delete request but instead a request that others here with C++ domain knowledge take a look at it and consider whether you think it’s worth keeping around
@sideshowbarker just pointing out that it was closed 41 mins ago. does it need to go away immediately?
Well it has an accepted answer, so will never otherwise get roomba’ed
@blackgreen it's a dupe with multiple answers, one even accepted. Thus, it won't roomba. Ever. Might as well take action now if action should be taken.
I'm not in favor of deleting duplicates immediately, at the very least to give the OP the time to look at the dupe target, and give them an opportunity to edit the question, in the remote chance that it's not actually a duplicate
I mean, there's no rush
just my opinion of course. I won't dispute a 20k del-pls, but also won't act on it
Yeah true in general but I think in this specific case there’s no real improvement that could be made. That said, there are others who have answered (other than the accepted answer) and commented there who I know have a lot more insight in the language than I do. So I may simply be missing something
(I meant “true in general” about “not in favor of deleting duplicates immediately” and “give the OP the time to look at the dupe target, and give them an opportunity to edit the question”)
I think it’s true that it’s actually not strictly a dupe — but I think in spite of not being a dupe, it has very little value
Anyway, I don’t feel strongly about it — just wanted to put it out there
11:11
I'll leave it to C++ experts :)
12:20
@sideshowbarker Isn't it useful as a signpost? I doubt that those not familiar with short-circuiting logic would know the term "short-circuiting" and find that dupe target.
13:11
@AdrianMole someone proposed a dupe target in comments, is that a valid one?
@blackgreen Possibly but I'm not sure. Lifetime extension in C++ is a tricky business at the best of times. Nathan may know.
... but I think my cv-pls can be removed: OP has at least responded to the requests for an MCVE.
mm they actually didn't, most of the code was edited out of thin air by the last editor
I went ahead and hammered it. Looks like that is the exact Q the OP has.
13:38
This isn't OT since vcpkg is primarily a programming tool correct?
14:05
^ OP is experimenting with one the new, ultra-minimized keyboards?
14:39
@NathanOliver It's a package manager so yeah, programming tool. Same kind of thing as NuGet in Visual Studio
I gave it a facelift that it sorely needed, though
@4b0 ugh, and that is answered already
wish I could nuke Q&A threads on my own sometimes
@TylerH thanks
15:08
Oh joy; and are a thing and have identical tag wikis.
It's time again? Woohoo!
oooh, tomorrow
time to fire up the ole winterbash blocker
15:23
@Machavity They are being inclusive the the southern hemisphere this year \o/
4b0
4b0
@TylerH :)
Mama needs a new hat
Tomorrow
@NathanOliver Technically, we were last year, too. :D
Hats off to you ;)
15:34
I've had hats since Friday, so that's fun.
Secret hat: earn a hat before winterbash begins
haha
🚽
I'd post an image of it but someone would yell at me. ;)
 
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@Machavity Oh, I do hope there's another giant rectangular one I can eclipse my avatar with!
17:50
^ possibly trolling
18:51
^ I really want to flag that as spam since the website look pretty complete. Thoughts? Voted to delete at least
looking at the profile, it's pretty evident that the only purpose of the account is to advertise the website in it's name
@NathanOliver Flagged as spam. ^ as Kevin said, profile is too spammy.
though, it's weird that this logo company didn't use a logo for a profile picture
surely they have a bunch just lieing around
Oh yeah, missed checking that for some reason. flagged as spam
@KevinB They have problem with the website, didn't you read the answer?
19:20
goodness
19:43
@VLAZ IMO no. The first one is asking how to show the images once they are received, while the second is trying to avoid showing videos.
@VLAZ I'd say it's more a duplicate of stackoverflow.com/questions/13023788/…
@Dharman PS - the language called "Web Scraping Language" is defunct (gone from GitHub and there's no archive.org backup available)... and it looks like only one of the questions that were tagged with was about it. Given that, I replaced it with (Company-Language format) and have been cleaning up the rest of the questions under the previous tag.
The vast majority are about Selenium which is a web-scraping tech/language anyway, so they don't need such a redundant tag as that in the first place. I forecast that [web-scraping-language] will be fully gone by the end of the week at the current rate.
19:59
I've noticed a fair few questions that I've flagged for closure get the resulting Close Votes review that's created from it invalidated. Per this Meta SE question on the subject, these instances aren't meeting the indicated reasons why a close vote review should be invalidated. Here's an example question's timeline, where I flagged for needing details or clarity at 16:16 on November 30th.
The review was invalidated on December 4th at 0:08 with no real reason (that jumps out to me, anyway). Any ideas?
@Spevacus Items age out of the close queue. Takes about 4 days. I think +- 1 depending on when the close vote was cast.
That makes sense.
tldr they can't entice enough people to review posts and therefore need to just kick them out of the queue so we don't end up with hundreds of thousands of pending reviews
20:30
NB: The two questions above are both the same user, they only came up because they're actually the same question
@Spevacus On your profile page, go to your flags page and see if they show up in the 'aged away' section
@TylerH The flags (including the example I linked) are still pending.
What's the best way to deal with one-off GPT answers? I'm hesitating to raise a custom mod flag just for a single answer.
20:46
@TylerH Things are just booted from the close queue, the votes still stay. Probably same holds for the flags, as well.
@iBug AFAIK it's still worth mod flagging them
because they need to be addressed by the mod team
@VLAZ Right but flags age away; I didn't know if the flag age away duration was the same as the CV queue age duration
^ yeah. Flag away. They might have other answers that were deleted that you can't see, as well.
I thought things wouldn't age out of the CV queue for at least a week, but maybe that's only votes... or maybe I'm misremembering entirely
@TylerH I don't know either. But a vote stays for a while. Maybe two weeks or so. It would make sense for a flag to also stay that much.
Slightly to my surprise, GPT answers are gone really quickly these days.
I was under the impression that average LQ answers stay for a day or two before poof
20:53
@iBug I wouldn't be too surprised if some moderates have some custom searches set up to try and find and remove them preemptively.
Yup. There are a few keyword combinations that lead to a reliable ratio of GPT answers.
There are tools that can be used to determine with high probability whether something is a ChatGPT generated text
Kind of like those plagiarism tools that teachers have for checking student works for plagiarism against databases of content
My favorite plagiarism detecting method is completely ineffective against ChatGPT.
No wonder why: It's simply Google with double quotes.
21:14
So speaking of ChatGPT, is this a support question disguised as a programming question? stackoverflow.com/q/74790854
it's a lot of things
a useful question it is not
Ah, so needs focus works for me.
I closed that question via a custom reason
it might even be trolling
relatively high chances
ChatGPT is not a programming/code-generation tool, so questions about code generated from it should be treated the same way questions about code generated by butterfly wing flapping should be treated: outside the scope of the site
21:17
@TylerH Most of my code is written by butterfly wing flapping.
And it hasn't let me down yet!
22:14
@TylerH PS? What are you referring to?
22:28
@Dharman Several days ago (last week some time I think) we had a brief discussion about the tag
I don't remember, sorry
No worries, just wanted to keep you updated, just in case

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