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6:06 AM
Never seen this happen before... a new question link 404s stackoverflow.com/questions/74767153/… (by stackoverflow.com/users/15435769/raz-tiracvyan ) - maybe that's what normal users like me see when something gets pulled to the staging ground?
 
@CertainPerformance I get a 404 too
so at least it's not about user privileges
 
6:35 AM
@CertainPerformance Yes. The post is in staging ground it shouldn't be on the main site at all. How did you come across that post? (I'll put a bug report up in the Team so they can investigate, I just want to include as much info as possible about where it's visible on the main site)
 
@HenryEcker It came up on the new questions feed on stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/reactjs?sort=newest. The partial question body from stackoverflow.com/posts/ajax-load-realtime-list loaded as well.
 
@CertainPerformance Great, thanks. I'll write up a bug report on the private team.
@gnat Is that supposed to be a del-pls? That question was closed 4 days ago.
 
6:53 AM
@HenryEcker I put a bug report up in the private Team. Similarly if anyone else finds any more questions on the main site that lead to a 404 unexpectedly feel free to ping me and I'll add it to the report. Screenshots are appreciated if possible. :)
 
@HenryEcker yes, it was sipposed to be del-pls, sorry
 
7:08 AM
@Dishantsinghal Requests for downvotes (or upvotes) are not allowed in this room.
 
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@JeanneDark I mean close it.
 
7:22 AM
@Dishantsinghal "Not good" alone is also not a valid reason to close a post. It may help to take a look through this room's FAQ before making requests. It'll help you better understand the room rules.
 
@JasonLiam As Ken mentioned, the OP has included an MRE. Also, it's not permitted to post a cv-pls on questions you've answered. If you've already posted a cv-pls and then feel like answering the question, you need to ping an RO first to bin the request.
cc @TylerH Could this request be binned please? OP is involved.
 
8:10 AM
dunno why this was scanned, I can see no recent activity
 
@tripleee Glorfindel edited one of the answers
 
oh thanks, somehow missed that
 
9:08 AM
Is this Link Only? The other answer referenced have also updated same link; so the link in original answer is not anymore dead. I think the original answer is also link only; but of course, helpful.
 
9:22 AM
mmm the 5-score answer is definitely link-only, it should've been a comment or an edit
 
9:56 AM
I was just in close queue and saw this vim question voted as POB. I didn't see how, so I voted to leave open. But now I'm wondering- should I have voted to close as "not about programming"? Is vim primarily used by programmers?
 
@starball It's definitely not POB (that would be something like "do you prefer vim or emacs?") and I'd say it's about a software tool "commonly used by programmers" so not off-topic. Not sure the solution indicates it may be typo/no repro, but could also be useful to others. Certainly, the answer should be posted as an answer and not remain in the question.
 
10:17 AM
@Adriaan And the asker's username is also a tad suspect.
 
@AdrianMole as suspect as people misspelling their own name? ;)
 
Pfft...
 
@Adriaan Already closed as duplicate and was not really POB, rather too broad.
 
@JeanneDark and part of a very shady user (see last SD report). Already flagged
 
10:37 AM
I assume this must be a spam seed?
 
@DavidBuck agreed.
 
10:54 AM
not very serious, probably red-flaggable but I gave NAA feedback which triggered this warning
 
 
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12:22 PM
 
1:10 PM
Morning
 
stackoverflow.com/a/71342598/4826457 close question as typo or flag this as NAA? (NATO)
 
@SurajRao It still looks like an answer to me, but the question may lack debugging details
@JasonLiam Instead of a del-pls request, you can flag it as NAA or VLQ and it will very likely be deleted by reviewers/mods
 
1:37 PM
@JeanneDark relevant xkcd xkcd.com/979
 
@SurajRao It's definitely not the best answer ever, but it could be considered a partial answer (CSS was the problem).
 
1:56 PM
looks like we are in the middle of our daily dose of DDoS :(
 
@TylerH @JasonLiam I'm binning this because it violates rule 15 (cc @cigien)
 
@TylerH I suggest to also bin this attempt at posting a cv-pls request. Thank you
 
@TylerH @Dishantsinghal I'm binning this as a malformed close request. You may re-request in the right format ([tag:cv-pls] <reason for closure> <link to question>) if you think it still needs to be closed.
Oh, it's already closed, so scrap that
 
3:07 PM
nvm, I think I can figure out what they mean
 
3:34 PM
possibly flag as R/A
 
4:51 PM
 
@gnat I don't see what's unclear about this question that you cv-plsed. It's asking how to partition an array in Java. I expect there to be a duplicate, but I don't see how it's unclear at all.
 
@cigien How many falses? Just the first one? Just one true to the end? Or all falses first?
 
...
 
@DanielWiddis However many falses there are, the question says they should be first (as one would expect from sorting an array). It's just a partition, though the OP doesn't seem to know the term.
 
I suppose you could have different behavior if there are multiple false or true values and you only want one to be sorted out of default order. I've added a comment to the question to ask for clarity regarding that.
 
4:57 PM
When I saw it I saw "this array" and then didn't see any actual array example. I'd reopen vote with an example input + expected output.
 
However, I'm inclined to agree with cigien; a general reading of the question is asking how to sort false values first and true values second
I don't code in Java so I can't say if there's some nuance specific to the language that would affect the answer to that question depending on such details
Looking at the revision history, it looks like Basil didn't understand that the contents of the array are populated by the chained function calls... and then Alexander edited themo ut.
While not strictly needed (and not ideal--that would've been the actual values themselves), they might have made it more clear to close voters what the array would have consisted of.
Instead of just a comment saying "initialize the array here"
 
I wouldn't necessarily vote to reopen it myself, as I assume that there's a Java duplicate for sorting an array and one for partitioning an array. Unless, of course, there's something specific to a Boolean array (and there isn't a duplicate for that case). I was just pointing out that, to me at least, the question was clear enough. Agreed that a specific input-output example is preferable in general.
 
5:30 PM
 
Is this R/A?
 
jps
now that's honest: write me the code i can't do anything((
 
@AdrianMole Yeah I'd say so; posting nonsense contents is an abuse of the system and wasting peoples' time
 
@AdrianMole: my vote: yes, it is. It is nonsense and in particular nonsense from an established site member, someone who should know better.
 
6:27 PM
@HenryEcker Turns out this was seen and reported before - if you haven't already, check out: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/421979/…
 
6:39 PM
@CertainPerformance Yes. Larnu drew my attention to the internal bug report on the Team. You did experience the behaviour after the fix was put out (or at least after it was marked status-completed internally) so I've left the report up pending confirmation/a second look.
 
if someone's asking how to do something that can be cone programatically, but they seem to be working with a UI that does that work, that's off topic, yea?
like how to configure a particular AWS service
 
7:18 PM
@KevinB often these are general computing, yes, though there is a higher tolerance for questions about tools which only programmers use in the first place
 
I did notice several of the tags make a similar claim, that questions about architecture are on topic, but not server management... but aren't the two effectively the same?
Are we just giving AWS a pass because it's AWS?
 
cough collective cough
 
eh, aws existed before the collective
 
8:05 PM
@KevinB unfortunately
@KevinB I mean, yeah, anything that can be done through a GUI on a computer can arguably be done programmatically, even if it's just an atomic CLI command
If that were our metric for what's on-topic then we'd have 100% overlap with Superuser (in that the Superuser site would be a perfect subset of topics allowed on SO)
 
just seems so... weird to me that we allow architecture questions at all for AWS. like, sure, programmers use them... but... at what point do these tasks transition from development/pramming to professional server/system management
 
Some examples would help, but based on what I am imagining, I would VTC any AWS architecture questions as off-topic
 
> Amazon Web Services (AWS) is a public-cloud: IaaS (Infrastructure as a Service), PaaS (Platform as a Service) and SaaS (Software as a Service) provided by Amazon. Questions about programming and architecture are on topic. General server help can be obtained at serverfault.com. The AWS tag is rarely used alone and will usually be used with other tags to more clearly define the topic of the question.
 
Do you mean like 'do I need an ecs module in a k8s core for my aws solution to work' or some gobblededook like that? If so, then VTC
Those acronyms are redundant
I mean, they're all just "hosted software"
I guess I can probably just edit the tag excerpt; it needs grammatical help anyway
 
effectively i was looking down the list of recent questions in the collective and overwhelmingly they were things related to how things connect together or should be connected/used together, or how to do something with a given tool, etc
one that seemed edge to me was how to use tiktok as a login source for cognito, given it's not one of the built-in options displayed in the configuration gui
it's certainly possible to support other sources, but it's gonna take more than fiddling in the console
in a sense... i wonder what an example of an on topic aws question would look like, if we go by what we've generally gone by with what's on topic. If we cut out architecture, what isn't architecture in aws?
lamda maybe,
 
8:18 PM
Heh, look at the revision history of the tag wiki excerpt. Some random user removed Machavity's "only programming questions are on-topic" blurb to totally rewrite it
 
> If you need help setting up AWS resources, ask those questions on Server Fault.
 
OK, fixed
 
like, isn't that every aws question outside of actual code-based ones like lambda
 
arguably?
What group of users are you gonna assign to dedicated monitoring of AWS questions though
we don't have a group large enough
Honestly AWS should probably have a site of its own
 
8:41 PM
FWIW looking at the ~15 most recent AWS questions, only 2 or 3 seemed off-topic at first glance
 
@TylerH it literally does
 
oh
well that's good
 
granted, it's not SO hosted, :p
and it took me way to long to re-find it
 
Oh
I meant an AWS Stack Exchange site
 
8:52 PM
not sure what's going on here
 
huh.
 
the asker and answerer seemingly exchanged upvotes, but the other 4 ones on each are strange for such a question. First question queue could hardly explain that.
 
well, techinically, it's a valid how-to question
 
how-to?
 
@blackgreen Looks like they want some Go code they can print on a novelty coffee mug
 
8:54 PM
how to print something on a mug?
I understood the question. It's just strange how it could get so many upvotes. Many birthday mug lovers out there...?
I thinking if there could be a rational explanation for that, otherwise I'll mod-flag
 
@blackgreen I'll save you a flag. There's nothing obvious fraud-wise
 
I've added it to my delete later saves list :)
 
@Machavity then just upvote pixies... will need a del-vote later
 
I deleted but... it is kinda on-topic. It's not open-ended like the wedding cake question was
Will leave it for now
 
oh they were asking code that prints "Happy Birthday", and print that on the mug. I didn't understand the Q then.
 
Text as code and code as pictures. That's about as bad as you can get :(
 
yeah, it is pretty awful.
 
9:42 PM
not as bad as pictures as code
 
At work I occasionally get a emails where someone took a screen capture of the problem, printed it, then scanned it as a pdf so it can be emailed.
6
 
9:57 PM
@NathanOliver Same here.... no matter how many time we show her how to email screen caps
 
10:18 PM
How did I miss the wedding cake Q&A for so long? Also, I wish I could have missed the wedding cake Q&A for longer.
 
@cigien I have no idea what solution asker wants. Would standard library sort with custom comparator do for them? If not, would they want sorting in place or not. Etc. Any of these specific cases asker might have in mind would likely have a duplicate but I am not quite fond of doing huge lists of dupes only one of which would actually reflect what asker had in mind and what they didn't tell us
 
@gnat Meh. IMHO, the question is clear enough. But, as @cigien has already said, most likely a duplicate. If you're gonna close, then use the right reason.
... otherwise, we're all just "toxic old farts!"
If you don't "like" a question, then you have an action that expresses that. Asking for inappropriate CVs is just plain wrong.
... IMHO. :)
 
11:00 PM
@AdrianMole there is no way that by reading text of this question one can tell if asker will be ok with using standard sort from collections framework. And there is no way to tell if in case of "handmade" sort they would want to do it inplace or not. In my book, this is unclear and I am not comfortable patching this with lists of totally different dupe targets
 
Nah. You're trying to read too much into the question. OP wants to sort an array of Boolean values. Clear as crystal. If there isn't a dupe, then post an answer. I just don't see the issue.
... or you can post two or three answers, if you really want to. Nothing against the roolz, in that.
... I would agree that it's not a brilliant question, but that's not an issue for SOCVR.
 
11:17 PM
Any folks have a canonical to close this against? I imagine it has to be a duplicate. stackoverflow.com/q/63336662
 

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