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3:10 AM
@Makyen Well in fairness I didn't know it was scrolling to the "correct" space then the rest of the page grew. To me it just looked like it scrolled to the wrong spot. Unfortunately perceiving ms changes during render is not something I can do with just my eyes. Now that I know where to look I can put together a solution if when I have the time (or just be okay refreshing the page when it comes up)
 
 
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4:51 AM
Is this aws answer actually an answer? The first 2 lines look like it's answering the question, but I have no idea what the rest is about.
 
@cigien it seems like error xml?
NAA
 
Oh, that was dumb. I should have looked at the source.
Thanks.
 
5:50 AM
@JeanneDark But what about all the people it's helped through the years with their inventory management programs that accidentally named a variable epson rather than printer?!
 
They are doomed now
 
6:16 AM
Should this be considered a serious/meaningful question, worthy of an answer?
 
Does not really look like a programming question to me
 
Unless they're specifically asking about the internals of the std::chrono::system_clock?
 
6:50 AM
Just so that you don't think I make a habit of editing improvements to spam: I only made the connection after I made the edit. :)
... Presumably, Jeremy's edit on the other post falls under a similar proviso.
 
 
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This question is clearly asking to add a try/catch block while using async/await and the guy clearly stated that my comment did solve his problem. Can we vote to close as duplicate please? stackoverflow.com/questions/72904254/…
 
@kemicofaghost See the FAQ on how to format requests and the rules
 
 
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10:21 AM
let's clean-up before @NathanOliver says "Morning!"
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11:01 AM
So, what's the current 'verdict' on someone posting an answer that is a copy of someone else's comment?
... without attribution.
 
Needs attribution
 
Feel free to wade in. :)
 
Can a RO move this request please? Code has been added (cc @rene @RyanM)
 
For that kind of answer, one might as well wonder why they didn't bother putting that as an answer instead of in a comment, and then being bothered by getting allegedly plagiarized.
 
11:06 AM
@E_net4-MrDownvoter You Meh Me?
@E_net4-MrDownvoter I was thinking of posting that sentiment as a reply to the grumbler's comment.
 
@AdrianMole heM
@AdrianMole Grumbly grumble.
 
@Adriaan → 1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
Where I am now, "meh" (pronounced halfway like "may") means "mother". As in "Mekong" (the big river), which is short for "Meh Nam Khong". "Mother of the water Khong".
 
@AdrianMole self-deleted now and there's a better answer...handled itself :-)
 
Wade away, then.
 
11:28 AM
Any Firefox Nightly users here? I've been experiencing a lot of websocket issues on SE (missed chat messages/updates, pages not updating when posts are deleted/edited, etc.), but seemingly only in Firefox.
 
I use Firefox at night. Does that count?
 
Depends. Do you have websocket issues? :-)
 
I have lots of issues. Websockets only being a minor part of it ...
 
11:51 AM
@rene might one say your view of the problems is clouded?
 
Yes, that is valid
 
Morning
@rene :p
 
\o
 
12:15 PM
Does anyone have an idea what group or clan-like thing these users with "- MSFT" or "_msft" in their display name is about?
 
@E_net4-MrDownvoter official microsoft support labourers
 
@E_net4-MrDownvoter Microsoft employees (or badly implemented AI from the same place)
 
I've had a run-in with them several years ago, when one of them just dumped linked to the docs
 
or "thank you for contacting us; did you try turning it off and on again?"
 
Y'see, there happen to be a non-negligible amount of such users leaving comments and appending answers with stuff like "If the answer is helpful, please click "√" on the left panel of the answer and kindly upvote it".
 
12:21 PM
@E_net4-MrDownvoter You've discovered the sort of thing that Rule proposal: comments asking for accepts and votes shall no longer be allowed was intended to address...
 
Personally I'd like to take another crack at that rule, maybe something like my better-received proposal, for exactly the reason that they keep posting these.
 
We are no better off now.
 
But yes, there are...generally speaking, lest I comment on any one particular user or group of users...a number of people working for large companies that treat Stack Overflow as a sort of helpdesk or ticketing system.
Definitely feel free to flag such comments as "No longer needed" or leave a custom post flag if there are a lot from a particular user that we should sweep up in bulk (we have a search, review, and delete tool for comments)
 
I've even encountered users complaining that the company listed SO as their "official support platform", with no visible presence whatsoever over the last 10 years of the company
Is this spam? The entire questions is iffy (it reads as a support issue for a third-party API to me), but this answer basically says "Use this code", with a non-disclosed link to their own github
 
12:30 PM
It at least is NAA
 
@Adriaan I would say NAA, not spam if this is their only answer
@Adriaan the other is also NAA but is a tad more useful if they only hand summarized what the artifacts are
@Adriaan I edited the question.
 
@rene It is indeed
 
Yeah! A mod finally agrees with me. Made my day.
 
@rene I agree it's their only answer, at least ;-) but yeah I also wouldn't red-flag it. Custom flag at most.
 
12:40 PM
Okay, you made half my day. Nice. Where is the rest.
 
make: *** No rule to make target 'day'. Stop.
 
sh: command not found: seize
 
1:11 PM
@Adriaan maybe another day we'll see your Python contribution.
 
1:39 PM
edited out of review queue
 
2:04 PM
@Adriaan That is, unfortunately, common. It would be OK to direct people to SO/SE, if the company doing so was crystal clear about explaining the scope of questions which are permitted on the sites. For anything other than something like an API, directing all their customers at SO is ... unlikely to be a good experience for us/SO or that company's customers.
 
For technical support on usage of the Acme Api® API, please use the Stack Overflow forum. There, your questions will be heavily downvoted, closed and deleted; you will also likely be banned from asking more questions.
 
@Adriaan One example where it's done right (meant for an audience of devs to begin with): "Stack Overflow with tag python-sphinx - Questions and answers about use and development.".
Haven't seen any problematic issue on the tag in +2 years.
 
2:45 PM
@SunderamDubey Why does that "How to" question "need debugging details"?
 
Sounds like a spam-seed though, due to the mention of an excessive amount of bitcoins ^
 
3:02 PM
@JeanneDark Need debugging details means OP should also atleast drop some code.
I was thinking to make request as needs details or clarity but I didn't.
@JeanneDark
 
@SunderamDubey What for?
 
For the above question I shared and you commented.
@JeanneDark
 
It's a "How to" question. It may be too broad or need details or clarity, but it doesn't need debugging details. It's not a debugging question.
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@SunderamDubey mind not clogging the transcript with loose pings, without a connected sentence? If you want to edit a previous message to attach a ping, feel free to do so by either hovering your mouse over it and clicking the little down-pointing triangle on the left and select edit, or simply press the up-arrow on your keyboard.
 
See what Sir Cody has to say about it
 
3:13 PM
🚽
 
@Adriaan noted.
And you my dear @JeanneDark, seriously I have no exact knowledge of flags, so sorry for that, if my close reason was not correct, at first I thought Needs details or clarity, which you told I am right for that reason, my motive is to close the question.
 
My curiosity has been piqued (again)! Can anyone suggest why this answer ended up in the Low Quality Answers queue?
 
3:28 PM
> This answer was flagged as low-quality because of its length and content.
 
@KevinB :) its very obvious
 
@KevinB Too long? I'm assuming that, for a poster with nearly 6k rep, the system didn't enqueue that one automatically ... so somebody must have flagged it. That could even be construed as malicious flagging, IMHO.
 
i don't see a reason for it ot have been autoflagged
 
@AdrianMole Maybe someone wrongly understood the flag.
 
@SunderamDubey Possible, I suppose.
 
3:32 PM
i bet it was the op
> You cannot delete this question as others have invested time and effort into answering it. For more information, visit the help center.
was something they commented
 
@AdrianMole When I was new to flagging, I would also flag technically wrong answers as NAA or LQ.
 
@KevinB Yeah - just saw that. D'ya fink ees needy fo der modz flags?
 
a comment would do
but i'm not sure what more you could say than what they commented
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
A comment "From Review" on the answer may have been good ... but too late now.
 
no mod action needs to happen on the question, or the answer, the op just might need to be nudged/informed about how to move forward/what limitations exist on deletion and why
 
3:37 PM
fairy nuff
... the +1/-1 on the answer would also seem to support your theory.
 
4:52 PM
@HenryEcker I'm sorry if my earlier comment came off as a bit harsh. It was intended as tongue-in-cheek, but that appears to have been lost. At the time, I was mostly frustrated at myself for having thought of the resource loading issue when you initially mentioned your problem, but dismissed suggesting it as the possible problem, because the page jumping around for late resource loading is something I usually see as fairly obvious, when it happens, and if that was what was happening, I assumed you'd see it to and mention it. I may be that I'm specifically aware of it and watching for it and/or it may just be more noticeable to me, at least under some conditions, due to browser/networking/computer load/etc. differences.
 
5:05 PM
... thanks
 
@Adriaan I've observed that yesterday and today: Several obvious NAAs were upvoted, but no review yet or any sensible explanation (different accounts etc.)
Looks to me like someone is maybe going through new answers and upvoting for fun or to get some meaningless badge
 
@JeanneDark almost worth a custom flag for escalation to a dev for investigation. But it sounds so vague, that that probably won't fly :(
 
I agree. Could also be people who have the same problem as the OP and appreciate a "I have the same problem" answer, or, like in this case, also want to hire Marco
 
@JeanneDark who wouldn't want to hire Marco?
Is this on-topic? It sounds like a customer-support question, but given they explicitly mention being in contact with them already, I'm doubtful
 
5:33 PM
@Adriaan OP is not the developer of that software but just a user (although as IT) and is asking us to debug some proprietary software without much useful info.
 
All I know of the McLeods is that their kilt is known as the "loud McLeod" for good reason
 
5:59 PM
Support number spam has been on a low flame for the past month hasn't it?
 
moved to other sites.
 
last time I checked it was mainly on Stack Overflow but at much reduced intensity
been away from Charcoal for the last couple of weeks though
 
@rene De goude gids .nl?
 
@Adriaan ha! worked for that company (the mother company, really) 10 years ago.
 
@rene Were you ripping phone books in two with your bare hands?
 
6:07 PM
yeah, that was the business model.
They called themselves an internet company by selling ads printed on dead wood.
 
6:54 PM
@Makyen No apologies necessary. I didn't find your comment harsh at all. Similarly I was just being factual. My internet and primary workstation both tend to be very fast (which is nice in all cases except for issues like this). Non-cached images load typically within 9-15ms after scroll time which was just too fast for me to catch without synthetically slowing things down with some debugging tools.
In any case, now that I have an idea it looks like an easy enough thing to tweak so we got there in the end.
 
7:05 PM
@TylerH @SunderamDubey "How do I do X" questions are not debugging questions and thus do not require code to be valid questions on the site.
 
@HenryEcker the answers at least can all be deleted without loss of wealth
 
@HenryEcker I'd say no. The main reason would be it's asking too many questions. Then it's probably also POB
 
Yea, so, all three non-deleted answers are nothing but a link-only recommendation.
 
Yeah. The answers are bad. (one's already been deleted from review once.) But attracting bad answers doesn't always mean the question is the problem.
 
7:09 PM
not necessarily bad, just off-topic
 
@HenryEcker No, it's asking for opinions on a meta topic
 
I didn't know enough about the topic to know whether it was reasonable answerable which was why I asked. It also had already gone through a close-reopen cycle so that also gave me some pause.
 
Looks like it was also edited to ask multiple totally separate questions, too
 
Yeah needs more focus probably is what I would've voted had I cast a vote there
 
In general, sociology questions (why do people do/not do X) are off-topic, even when about a programming language
 
7:15 PM
unless it's curl and the curl dev responds, of course
 
@Adriaan Yes. It's fluctuated substantially over the last year (or year and a half, depending on when you want to say it started). There have been multiple periods where it's been quiet for a notable amount of time, but then followed by a large spurt for a couple/few/several days.
 
@KevinB Well yeah that except exists for any topic, but it's something we should not allow for because it happens extremely rarely and cannot be counted upon.
unless you're an SO employee and you think it's a great example of an SO question so you use it on a blog...
 
@TylerH I wonder if this is going to change with Collectives
 
anybody know if a regex to match a string of numbers (e.g. 123456789) that will be checked in isolation (e.g. not as part of another string) needs $ on the end of the matching regex? I have ^\d+$ from a project I inherited but I am thinking the $ is not needed
regex101.com seems to confirm it isn't needed to match. Wondering if there is some edge case I'm missing since I don't often use regex
 
@TylerH If the pattern isn't anchored to the end, all the test will do is check that the string starts with at least one digit. If that fulfills your purposes, feel free to leave off the $
"String contains only digit(s)" vs "String starts with digit(s)"
 
7:39 PM
@CertainPerformance Ah, so to make sure that everything in the string is a digit rather than a space or letter or whatever, that's what the ^ and $ combined do, thanks
 
@HenryEcker If you come up with a solution in the form of something I (well, ideally anyone, but mainly me... hehe) could use, could you share it with me? It's an issue I would personally like to mitigate as well.
 
@Spevacus WILCO. if when I have the time to work on a fix I'll definitely share it. Unfortunately, I'm just returning from 2 weeks of traveling so I'm a bit swamped at the moment... so I don't know when that'll be =)
 
Well hey, I hope your trip was nice :)
 
The reason I was traveling was quite enjoyable. Though location OTOH... It was just really unfortunate timing to be in Washington DC. Just a touch more excitement than I was budgeting for.
 
7:55 PM
@HenryEcker ah yeah, yikes
DC is my favorite city
but would not want to be there during political unrest
 
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9:41 PM
@HenryEcker Wait, were you also doing that?
 
 
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