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12:28 AM
Please review instantly unhammered page stackoverflow.com/q/72917952/2943403
 
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2:48 AM
@Braiam I'm not sure to what you're referring here. Were you also travelling or in DC or being swamped with work?
 
 
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6:23 AM
I noticed that some answers have delete votes but zero score. An obvious explanation is that someone comes along, downvotes to make it eligible for del votes, deletes, and undownvotes.
what's the reason for this? this only accomplishes to keep 1 rep point until the answer goes away but also hides pending delete votes
 
6:36 AM
@blackgreen Total guess without knowing the context: they're doing this a lot, and not all on answers that really deserve delete votes, so they won't be necessarily actually deleted.
 
in this case I'm talking about this answer, which is in fact NAA
 
@blackgreen well, now that you can see the delete voter, you could ask @AdrianMole personally ;-)
(...based on the context, to be clear, I don't think my original guess applies here)
 
In the LQA and LA review queues, those with 20k can cast (real) delete votes on questions with a zero score.
 
oh right, of course.
Silly me. I forgot about that.
...as a non-20k user, I've never actually experienced this ^^;
 
... so you went for the diamond, instead? xD
 
6:43 AM
seemed more straightforward
 
hehe
 
@AdrianMole huh? so it doesn't use up a delete vote at negative score?
 
It uses up a delete vote, whatever the score.
When one's daily quota of delete votes is used up, the "Delete" option becomes "Recommend deletion".
 
how does undoing the downvote come into the picture?
 
Not sure what you mean. I didn't downvote or undo a downvote ... I just delete-voted from Late Answers.
 
6:48 AM
ok I get it now... hey I just finished brewing my morning coffee, it still isn't inside my bloodstream
 
Although, the way 'organic' delete votes and those cast from review queues interact (and how the "recommend deletion" reviews add in to the outcome) is a deeply mysterious algorithm.
 
7:08 AM
@HenryEcker No, just travel and for pleasure for two weeks :P
 
 
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8:26 AM
Please review my hammered page. Have I inappropriately closed the question?
 
Without looking at it: is there any question that doesn't fundamentally ask the same thing?
 
8:59 AM
@DavidBuck this has been edited (not just by me), do you think it's clearer now?
 
9:54 AM
Is this spam?
 
@Braiam ah, poop. I forgot to paste the link. Sorry. stackoverflow.com/q/72917636/2943403
 
several answers at stackoverflow.com/questions/35603323/… are repetitions of the accepted answer, should I post a separate del-pls for each?
 
10:35 AM
@mickmackusa The only problem with those questions is that they are tagged php, but yes, they are fundamentally the same question
 
10:54 AM
There are no answers
 
@SurajRao Technically, it was correct after it was posted. Being the only answer, it was definitely incomplete. Although, I assume they posted this on the wrong question.
 
11:08 AM
Any experts here? This question, check_token() methon requesting for token argument yet it has been passed, is surely a dupe of many others. Would perhaps this one serve as a decent dupe target?
 
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12:21 PM
@tripleee how can you close an answer?
 
@Braiam sorry, edited
 
@bad_coder MSE has had a longstanding bizarre problem with people posting answers consisting entirely of a photo of themself, usually a selfie. No one has quite managed to figure out why. But yeah, red flags are appropriate on them.
 
@RyanM / @bad_coder: is there a now-deleted answer to your meta question that many of us are not able to see?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Yes, it consists entirely of this image.
It has since been deleted by a moderator using a red flag.
 
12:50 PM
@RyanM: thanks. That makes it all much clearer
 
Except, of course, for why people post these in the first place...
I've tried asking a few while waiting for the posts to get nuked. Never got an answer.
It's only MSE. None of the other sites have this particular problem.
 
@RyanM: the world is a strange and wondrous place :/
 
1:24 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels sorry about that, I checked the other chat rooms before posting here but no one was active in them at the time.
@RyanM thanks for the explanation, I was totally unaware of it.
 
2:24 PM
Is two of these enough to consider them spam?
 
IMHO yes, however I would custom flag it instead of using the SPAM flag
 
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4:36 PM
@EJoshuaS-StandwithUkraine no, just confused.
 
 
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8:38 PM
I stumbled upon this edit request - IMHO it would be "no improvement" as the edit doesn't fix the majority of the grammar and spelling mistakes. parts of the edit even itself containing spelling errors. Would a "no improvement" rejection be too hard or justified?
 
@tacoshy Can you fix those issues yourself?
 
yes but I don't think that it would fix the poor quality of the question itself (missing debugging details, missing details and clarity...).
 
jps
@tacoshy I would choose reject and edit. It's not too hard. This edit was a 5 seconds job on a short post, not a work of several minutes, so no real harm. At best, the editing user might learn something (never give up the hope)
 
9:26 PM
@tacoshy Adding to what jps said, if the user adds those details later on, then we still have to fix the post to be presentable
 
10:17 PM
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Idle question to room - can this be closed as "typo"? stackoverflow.com/questions/72785389/… - I don't do Python, but I am not sure how useful it would be to other Python users.
 
 
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11:40 PM
@dippas this doesn't appear to be a debugging question, so "Needs debugging details" doesn't apply to it
It is potentially unclear, though. I'm torn between "You should use the SMS Retriever API" and "When you say JavaScript, do you mean like from a webpage?"
actually the SMS retriever API wouldn't work here because they're not the one sending the SMS messages.
 
@halfer Not a typo, but it is an exact dupe.
 
I dumped a paragraph in the comments about the various options for this and the lack of clarity on the JS thing.
 
11:58 PM
@RyanM Sometimes I'm also torn between 2 options, I go with what I think it fits best
 

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