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Good bot
 
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@richardec IMO the Python sub tags are a mess E.g. python-typing likely has less than half the questions with the other half being tagged types or type-hint... Same for abstract-class, abstract and abc tags...
It's beginning to be the case that when I'm researching something from standard library I have to look into 2 or 3 tags for 1 thing.
 
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07:39
Not actually an answer: stackoverflow.com/a/5881465/2943403
08:30
I don't think I can suppress the urge to say "needs more downvotes"
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@tripleee you raised a mod flag?
@rene I flagged all of their bumps as R/A but I suppose a mod flag on the post could also be warranted
please do.
the question is gone too now and I'm hoping they will have learned their lesson; do you really think it's worth additional effort at this point?
Yes, if this is a "returning" user evading previous abuse warnings moderators need to suspend the account.
08:39
OK, will do
thanks
09:47
^ closeable or flaggable?
10:03
@blackgreen I vtc-ed: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/277984/5320906 is probably relevant (assuming you are asking about the lua one).
@snakecharmerb yup, that one, I VtC'ed too. Not sure if that was possible R/A or something...
10:17
@DavidBuck which flag should raise for off-site resource?
@SecretKeeper I'm sorry, I can't remember the flag options, and I can't see them myself.
needs improvement -> A community-specific reason ->
Seeking recommendations for books, tools, software libraries, and more
@blackgreen An R/A flag or even a VLQ flag would have likely been declined. (Without "Please anyone decode this code for me pleaseeee" you could have argued it was just gibberish and therefore abusive, but with it not so much. Just a pretty low quality question).
10:33
@JeanneDark thank you
11:51
stackoverflow.com/a/72247919/4826457 is this salvagable or completely NAA?
 
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13:59
Does this need focus? (It has a NATO, which most of its other late answers is a code only solution to the exercise that ignores the OP's actual questions).
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14:14
So suggested edits adding Python 3 code to a Python 2 answer (or upgrading Python 2 -> Python 3) is considered conflicting with the author's intent?
user17242583
@snakecharmerb Hmm, I guess I should've read up on meta more :)
14:31
@richardec Relevant answer stackoverflow.com/a/1767589/792066
Note that the answer is "yes"
What meta says that will happen and what actually happens are two different things. Specially when it comes to dogmatic approaches.
15:17
@snakecharmerb Yes, I think so. It doesn't seem useful to anyone else in its current form.
16:07
@SurajRao can RO remove this? OP added code.. cc @Dharman
I can't moderate this site if it is offline so often
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, per request
One R/A post from "heaven" and the whole site goes down?
and now the post is in limbo
(PS: I gave that one a spam flag instead of R/A ... tried to change it but then SO crashed.)
I gave that post R/A
16:09
R/A is what I meant to give it.
Meh. Can't change a spam to an R/A (or vv). Once a red flag is retracted, that's it.
ok, it's deleted now by community
Presumably, such a 'wrong' red-flag is still marked helpful when the post gets deleted for the 'right' red reason.
@AdrianMole Yes, all spam/R/A flags get handled together, and all will be marked helpful if a mod red-flag deletes the post, for either red-flag reason. Mods can't even pick and choose which ones to dispute. Assuming I'm reading the reference correctly.
Weird: this required four close votes? When I went to vtc it was somehow Close(3), I assumed I'd get a "this question is already closed" message, but no ...
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16:24
@snakecharmerb That is odd
Did this coincide with the recent site down event?
@richardec No. 4 is even. 3 and 5 are odd. :)
user17242583
@AdrianMole lol
@snakecharmerb Transition from 5 to 3 votes
@AdrianMole I don't think so, I voted @ 16:20 (UK time)
Nope, too new
16:29
Maybe, when the site reboots, the default value of 5 votes required to close is in place, and that is only changed to 3 (for SO) by a script that runs a wee bit afterwards?
Or some kind of cache synchronization issue, although 15 mins seems a relatively long time
Either way it looks like a bug, and probably worth reporting on Meta.
I was sure that it was set with >=
@cigien Posted this, feel free to improve the tagging
16:58
@AdrianMole Lest there be any confusion, I voted at 16:20 UTC, which is 17:20 UK time
 
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@cigien Yes, disputing is an all-or-nothing thing. It even disputes red flags which are already marked helpful or declined. OTOH, we can separately decline spam vs. R/A flags. However, I'm not aware of any moderator, on SO, who would decline one of those when the other was applicable. There are mods on other sites who will differentiate.
There is a small corner case regarding helpful R/A flags preventing the post from being an audit, but I don't think any of the SO moderators would take that into consideration when deciding to decline an R/A flag where they think a spam flag is helpful.
@Makyen Oh, I didn't realize separate red flags could be declined. Thanks for the clarification.
 
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@snakecharmerb This happens from time to time. Based on having been the third close-voter in such situations once, it seems to happen when an error occurs during the third close-vote being applied. The result being that the vote is applied, but the question isn't closed.
SE definitely has some atomicity issues...see also the various instances of partly-deleted posts that come up every now and then.
Which weren't happening before, so code isn't being tested as well as before or software suddenly started failing
It's been happening rarely for a while, in my experience
Until two years ago, I've never heard of a case. Remember that SO is like 15 years old
IIRC Shog had abused this way back in the day to vote for multiple duplicates by intentionally triggering errors partway through the process
back before dupe list editing
20:17
Well, that's different. Someone with access to the code, that know exactly what to do to trigger it and have more tools than the normal user.
20:48
Does this Code Review Request actually fit for SO or should it be closed?
@tacoshy Can anyone write an answer that could be objectively correct?
And objectively incorrect?
@tacoshy your comment under the question seems fair. I didn't analyse the code for correctness. The title of the question is not yet ready for CR.
yes but imho changes would be opinio-based.
but I'm not primarily a code just a hobby coder. So my JS skills are limited in the first place.
 
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@halfer including the language tag in your cv-pls requests lets me know in advance if I have enough subject matter knowledge to cast a close vote without needing to load the page.
Correction: this request above should be a typo/trivial error. Please see comment
22:15
@mickmackusa Ah, thanks for the feedback. I tried using the browser helper many years ago, but I vaguely recall I judged it to slow my browser down. I will put it on my list to try it again!
@Dharman I don't mind devops questions themselves, but I'd say that was Unclear
 
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23:34
@bad_coder Congrats on your dupe-closing spree! I've followed behind you with a hammer ;)
@richardec thanks, I'd usually hit the queue again after 0 UTC but I'll take the rest of the evening...
@richardec didn't know SO Botics had dup reports :D that's a sruprise :D
user17242583
@bad_coder No problem; I'm almost out of CV's as well :)
Yeah, I just burned through my 50... First picks so I went after the easiest dups first.
@richardec there's also a new burnination room
user17242583
@bad_coder Yeah, I've configured SOCVFinder to ping me for the and tags, as I have hammers in those tags. It's really nice :)
@richardec Interesting I didn't know about that possibility.
@richardec and it's back to that multiple inheritance protocol implementation...

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