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2:53 AM
 
@TylerH Your emails can be lengthy and detailed sometimes? Hold my beer...
 
3:06 AM
@Spevacus @BendertheGreatest You shouldn't be casting a close vote if you're uncertain. Relatedly, most of the close-vote reasons are for obvious issues, so no real subject-matter expertise is needed.
The major exception is closing as a duplicate. In that specific case, it would admittedly be nice sometimes to be able to propose a duplicate without hammering. But there is a nice workaround that doesn't require socks: post the suggested question in a comment. That not only gets the suggestion to the asker, but allows other more knowledgeable users to find it quickly and hammer, if appropriate.
@IanCampbell Cannot confirm. I do a fair number of moderation activities, and I don't use this script.
 
+1 ^
I do, however, have a large text file full of comments.
 
 
2 hours later…
4:49 AM
@RyanM thanks for the ping; posted another response
 
Long clap for transparency and accountability for one's actions in this room.
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5:35 AM
is found
 
5:59 AM
What to do with this one... stackoverflow.com/q/71866953/3558960
Needs focus? Infra management?
 
6:48 AM
> This is called "Scrummerfall". Here are a couple links to get you started on the pain you can unleash on your organization...
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Nice; almost hate to delete that.
 
7:21 AM
 
 
1 hour later…
9:23 AM
hello
 
@VojtechStas Is there any reason why you said hello in every chat room?
 
@Dharman to be honest I am trying to get the Outspoken bedge :D Any ideas how it works?
 
The messages have to be starred by other users as interesting. That means they either need to be interesting, or funny, or something. Simply posting a large number of messages doesn't earn any badges.
 
You'll get it right after the "First suspension" badge ;)
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^ like this
 
I've tried many times to earn an "Annoying" badge, but I think it's broken
 
9:52 AM
@CodyGray I thought that's what the diamond was for?
 
Oh, is that what you earn by being annoying? Never mind, it's working.
 
At least, according to many downvoted meta posts.
 
SD: "Offensive answer", OP: "Have a nice coding day"
something's wrong with the AI
 
That GitHub username really does not get along with SD.
 
@Cristik What if I'm offended by nice days? Or coding?
 
9:55 AM
@VLAZ it's ok for you to get offended, the real problem is that AI got offended
seems we reached the point where AI developed emotions :|
 
It's far worse than that, I'm afraid. The humans who program these bots have emotions.
 
@CodyGray Who allowed that?
 
There actually is an AI-based detection reason in SmokeDetector, it's the "Toxic" one using Perspective.
 
Free cookies for anyone who gives me star :D Will this work?
 
@VojtechStas it will not :-) please refrain from posting such messages in here.
 
9:58 AM
@VojtechStas nope, won't work, at least not with me. I'm the kind of guy who prefers beer over cookies
 
@VojtechStas People here don't necessarily like cookies.
 
Damn, hard audience :D
 
@VojtechStas Badges are rewards for participation. You can't buy them or cheat. That defeats the purpose.
 
Hey, at least you got some replies :-)
 
I am gonna tell you some jokes what about that? If you smile, ill get a star. Who is in ?
 
10:00 AM
I laughed at a joke once. Won't make that mistake again.
 
@VojtechStas Just be aware that posting nonsense in many rooms and annoying other chat users will attract flags to your account and a potential suspension
 
Yea I get it, ill not do that again
Q. How did the programmer die in the shower?
A. He read the shampoo bottle instructions: Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
 
@VojtechStas We do like to have the occasional bit of fun, but just so that you're aware, this room is primarily focused on cleaning up content on the site. To that extent, users post messages here suggesting review of questions that might need to be closed, re-opened, etc. You've also already noticed that we have a bot that posts messages from auto-flagged posts that might need attention
Therefore, idle chatter and jokes should generally be kept to a minimum in this particular room. You'll find other rooms on the SO chat system that will be more receptive to fun.
@RyanM Maybe if SD enlarged its muscle...
 
@RobbyCornelissen I'd go with unclear/needs more details. What kind of performance if the OP referring? Are they referring to the performance of the insertion operation, or performance of the tool afterwards?
 
@VojtechStas You were warned. We don't respond well to demands like this.
 
 
1 hour later…
11:10 AM
Hmm. Mod feedback from feedback to Smokey. Have you been merged?
 
12:06 PM
Is this an answer?
 
Is that a trick question?
 
It's a trick answer?
My concern is whether or not it would qualify for NAA.
... I guess it would have.
 
The question is more, "Is this R/A, or just NAA?"
 
That, too.
 
You can see deleted answers, right? That one's a complaint about an earlier NAA that got deleted.
 
12:10 PM
I was mildly confused, so I came here, where the more seriously confused people hang out.
 
You certainly succeeded in confusing me
 
See - it worked.
 
But yes, it is, at the very least, NAA.
"None of the other answers work" is always NAA
 
Something that doesn't answer the question is always NAA :)
 
Well, something that's not an attempt to answer the question is NAA.
Largely because we have no idea whether most of these attempts do or do not answer the question.
We can, however, rather quickly tell that (just to grab the latest example) "Do you find the solution? If yes, could please share with me." does not answer any question.
Same for "I have a similar problem. Need to improve read_excel. It's way too slow for big files" and "How can I create the link to get directions between two coordinates? E.g: point coordinates: 40.050005726007655,26.21908654992019 point coordinates: 39.92728663542833,32.83714738950904"
Don't even need to look at the question for those.
 
12:21 PM
Well, that's why we have subject experts. To know if it's even an attempt to answer the question.
 
Yep! And they can vote to delete for non-NAA reasons.
 
They understand the question and arguably the answers
Nah, just trust them
 
Just blindly trust the accuracy of every flag? Yeah, what could go wrong?
 
If you can't trust your users to know what they are talking about, why have them?
 
We do! That's why we give them a delete button.
 
12:22 PM
@CodyGray Nothing at all. It has never been tried :)
 
@Braiam HAHAHA you clearly haven't seen the sort of flags we get.
people will just flag random things for random reasons that I don't at all understand.
 
@RyanM Nope, not interested. But again, it's a NAA. It's a standard flag. You have the user, the question and the answer. All the information you need.
Not a "random flag" at all, for "random reasons".
 
I am really not following. You legitimately think that we should blindly trust whoever raises a NAA flag to be a subject-matter expert and have made a correct decision about which answer should go?
Or are we supposed to go do background research on the flagger and assess their competence?
 
@CodyGray I would do exactly that
When I don't understand why someone is flagging something
 
You would not successfully handle thousands of flags per day
 
12:25 PM
@CodyGray But at least I would handle them accurately
And that's more important to me that mere throughput.
 
Not really
You'd still be taking a poor guess
 
I handle them accurately. I press the decline button very accurately
 
@Dharman That sounds like monkey behavior.
 
But how is your precision?
 
I would say 99%, but I'm clearly biased.
 
12:26 PM
I confess that I've accidentally marked a number of flags helpful that I had intended to decline.
 
So is everyone with their own behavior
At least, I'm aware of it.
 
I'll handle your NAA flag in 6-8, please be patient while I learn how to program in PHP, then learn that particular framework, and then test the answer against the code in the question.
At least this'll make the next one go faster, right? Dang! They changed the framework!
 
@Dharman so my recent declined flags came from you! finally someone to blame :)
 
But I've handled a plurality of the flags recently! It could've been me, too.
I don't remember declining any of yours, but that doesn't necessarily mean I didn't.
 
Some information is best left unknown
 
12:32 PM
@Cristik I don't see any of yours. It was probably Ryan
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels that's how some eastern european presidents start their speech :)
 
Ryan M handled twice as many flags as I
 
And yet neither of you declined Cristik's flags :-)
 
We'll do better
 
Maybe there's a phantom flag-decliner lurking among the moderators?
 
12:35 PM
@Cristik I'm not sure this is limited to eastern Europe
 
on a more serious note, it's interesting how reviewing answers leads to discovering off-topic questions :)
 
And also spam and voting fraud
 
Yes. Reviewing, in general, can lead to all sorts of unexpected 'discoveries'.
 
@Cristik My workflow on many of these flags is "decline flag on answer, close question as typo"
 
@Cristik Eh... I am not 100% convinced on this being off-topic or general computing.
 
12:38 PM
yeah, off-topic here I wanted to say
 
DMA is arguably a programming-related concept.
 
Yeah... I mean, I see the concerns, because the question doesn't do a great job of presenting it in a programming context. But on the other hand, that's definitely information that I would ask as a programmer.
 
I would say that DMA and Bus-Mastering is very programming-related. Particularly for those poor souls who have to write device-drivers.
 
@Cristik Bad answers are basically an indication of bad questions.
 
12:44 PM
@AdrianMole agreed, but I don't see how the question being discussed can help programmers - neither the question nor the answers
 
@SmokeDetector Erm... are you OK?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels fortunately, the one you accidentally marked TP is, in fact, spam.
 
told ya that AI is going rogue
 
@CodyGray He had to give up smoking so he's been vaping instead
 
Why did it try to process multiple posts?
 
12:46 PM
In other news, xz -e -9 is really good compressing large log files with hex debug included. A +800MB file went to ~11MB.
@CodyGray sd allows you to report various posts.
 
@RyanM I didn't mean to trigger the sd, and thought that I wouldn't if I didn't pre-pend the @
 
Smokey takes a list of (short) words as responses to its last n reports.
 
@RyanM, which one did I trigger?
 
Oh, I see. Yes.
 
12:47 PM
... SDC fp fp spam fp would be feedback on the last 4 reports.
 
@CodyGray It didn't. HCE started with SD (makes the bot take notice) and followed it up with non-commands (better known as a sentence to us). So it thinks HCE was covering 4 posts with commands
 
@RyanM thank you. I had no idea
 
I thought "SDC" was required to get the bot to notice. Or a reply.
 
I will strive to be more careful
 
@RyanM so for example, this skips Smokey's unhelpful reply to Hovercraft, then marks three posts with tpu-, and one with fp-
@CodyGray "sd" is the one for reply commands. "sdc" is for non-reply commands.
 
12:49 PM
Ryan M is really an anagram of Makyen R, if you didn't know :P
 
There's no K, fake news!
 
The "K" is silent, as in knave.
 
@Braiam the K is silent.
 
Really?
 
Or E, but yeah!
 
12:51 PM
Yep. kRyane with silent "k" and "e".
 
It's a magic e
 
I can confirm that while there is no K in my full name, there is at least one E.
 
How do we know you're not Makyen that up?
 
Ouch.
 
Badum tss?
 
When logging in to SO now (tested again), I'm now no longer redirected to the questions page ("Top Questions"), but the SO homepage ("Every developer has a tab open to Stack Overflow").
 
@JeanneDark Can't repro on a sock.
 
Okay, maybe I'm special
 
Wait, how can you even see that page when logged in?
I didn't think that was supposed to be possible.
 
Many things that I thought were impossible SO made come true
 
1:02 PM
@JeanneDark Can't repro
 
Then maybe it goes away by itself
 
@RyanM You can access it when logged in
 
@Dharman How?
 
1:25 PM
Now everything is back to normal
 
@CodyGray only if it's tasty
 
1:46 PM
@CodyGray Turns out my memory was wrong meta.stackexchange.com/questions/76566/…
 
@Dharman That reminds me of the page on Wikipedia that is like "list of subjects that aren't on any lists" or something
 
@TylerH I feel that that's one of the reasons why sets of all sets is not a set.
 
Is this NAA? Apart from that, it is wrong.
 
@AmitJoshi I'd say its an answer. Maybe not a very good one, but its basically saying its not possible, and thats an answer.
(even if wrong)
 
1:56 PM
An attempt at answering the question ("Is there a way to pass a TVP to dapper on .Net Core right now?" (somewhat unfortunate title, though)).
 
I thought I saw a Meta SE post about that. "Not possible" is not an answer without an explanation, right?
 
@GeneralGrievance No. Yes. Maybe.
 
Glad that cleared things up
 
Is any of those answers satisfactory?
 
@GeneralGrievance It is an answer although not necessarily a great one
 
1:58 PM
NAA means the post is not even an attempt at answering the question
 
@code11 Question is about .NET Core. The answer is talking about ".net core 5". I guess they mean .NET 5. Anyway, the question is now edited; can you review whether it is an answer in new context?
 
@CodyGray I suppose, a comment is a suitable way to sidestep that moderation limitation. I feel that it would be welcome however to allow those with either elected-mod or rep-mod privileges to opt out of using their superpowers at times. A comment doesn't get a post added to the review queues, and even elected moderators aren't subject matter experts on every tag or topic at Stack Overflow.
 
@AmitJoshi Indeed .NET version 5 is the cross-platform Core version
 
Still a answer imo
 
but they dropped Core from the name with the release of version 5
 
2:01 PM
@TylerH So how are we supposed to differentiate between Windows PowerShell and PowerShell Core now 😜
I wish MS would be consistent with their products.
 
Is apache license compatible with cc-by-sa?
 
@BendertheGreatest There is PowerShell 5 for Windows only and PowerShell 7 for cross-platform use. No one should be using any other version
 
@Braiam I found this, looks like no
@TylerH I was half joking, until .NET 5 but after the release of .NET Core outside of version numbers it was officially named Windows PowerShell for 5.1 and earlier, and PowerShell Core for 6 and newer. Now the Core in PowerShell Core doesn't make sense.
 
Microsoft, polluting the name space several products at a time
 
2:06 PM
Let's not forget that 7 years ago, Windows 10 was the last version of Windows we'd ever need
 
It will be 11. Windows as a Service.
 
@BendertheGreatest I wish they had kept that promise. At least for a little while longer
 
You can't install it without internet at all.
 
11 is a shitfest
 
Until Windows 12 comes out sometime in the next decade
😂
I've actually been really digging 11
 
2:07 PM
I just want everyone do the sane thing and move to Linux.
 
🚽
 
Most of the stuff people do is in their browser anyways.
 
Yeah, @Braiam, true. I was actually able to work entirely off Linux for a while since Office was my hangup. Now Teams and most of the Office Suite all works online
Though I'm back on a Windows laptop because I'm back in the office. And also I'm a Windows Systems Engineer, so... good for my career to eat that dogfood i suppose
 
@TylerH that "code" is OP solution, therefore an answer.
 
No, look at the original revision of the post
It is what OP tried first that resulted in the error.
Aside from that, a wholesale reversion would reintroduce all the other spelling, grammatical, and formatting errors you left or introduced into the question
 
2:12 PM
See revision 4.
 
@Braiam I did see revision 4, and the rest of them. OP modified his code and added more when he found a solution. You were right to remove the final solution code from the question, but not right to remove the original starting code
That his solution included parts of the code he started with does not mean his starting code needs to be removed from the question
 
Whatever. No answer mentions that code at all.
 
So if a question is unanswered you should delete all the code from it? ;)
 
absolutely
 
jps
2:24 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels IMHO yes! The links are not related to anything that was asked in the question.
 
@jps: thank you
 
Scammers use sites.google.com to pose as legitimate companies, somewhat akin to fake support number scams.
 
@Braiam ostensibly that is because the code didn't work. I would hope an answer would not include non-working code. That doesn't mean we should go around deleting OP's attempts from their questions everywhere. Instead, we should laud users who include their code attempts in their question, because it shows they've actually tried to solve their own problem and helps us know more about what might be causing the problem.
 
Agreed, and in fact many users of the site often VTC when code samples aren't provided (and usually it's a justified vote). We can't help users with their implementation problems if they don't share their implementation (or an [mcve]) with us, and can smell to others like "begging for code" questions.
 
2:37 PM
@TylerH I didn't say "include" I said "mention". No one mentions the code nor the error the OP got.
For all intents and purposes, the question could have no code at all, and would have no effect on the answers.
 
If the question didn't have any code, your and others' first message would've been "show us the code that caused that error message"
Or have you forgot about MCVE requirements?
 
I don't think I need code to do an implementation of something that OP doesn't know how to do, right?
That question isn't so much about debugging, but "how do I achieve this"
Isn't "How do I pass a table-valued parameter to Dapper in .NET Core?" a complete question?
Title should match the content of the question. If the question asks about an error message, it should do so in both the title and the body of the question.
 
That's also easily searchable. SO should not be your first stop on your quest to find an answer.
Even Bing provides the answer on the first result
 
So, then it's a duplicate? stackoverflow.com/q/43342308/792066
If we want it to make it a debugging question, the title should reflect that. If it's a how to then the question needs no code at all.
 
I missed the "from .NET Core" bit. It seems I can't find official documentation or tutorials on this, only from the Standard framework. This particular question is appropriate I'd say, the user indicates the research they did and adequately explains why the existing question and its solution(s) does not work.
 
2:52 PM
@JeanneDark If it's not relevant to the question asked, I would delete it even if it's answered.
 
In this case it's a little unique; it's really both OP wrote some code to do something, and got an error. In a standard question, that's a debugging question. However, it turns out OP is wanting to do something that isn't (or at least, may or may not be) possible in the language, period, prompting him to ask "can I even do this?"

I agree if the question is a duplicate it should be closed as such, regardless of everything else.
although the target you linked is newer than the the one we're talking about
Considering that and the fact that the accepted answer has information about it being possible now in Dapper 2.0, I'd argue the second Q from 2017 should be closed as a dupe of the original one from 2016
The view counts are nearly identical and the older one has many more upvotes, as well
 
3:23 PM
@TylerH Again, that depends if you want a debugging question or a how-to question. Both have to ask the same thing, one of them ask something in the title, but something different on the body. I prefer not messing with the one that is a straight up a "how-to". That question is ok as it is.
 
@Braiam I'm not sure I see an issue. They're both phrased fine right now, and the newer one is an ideal candidate for dupe closure
 
3:54 PM
Holy hell that offensive question and answer
 
Holy hell? Well, sent to the hell hole, already! :)
 
It's rare I come across a true troll on SO. Usually it's just some salty user
 
I guess the 'code' part was just copy-pasted from somewhere to pad out the Q.
 
quality
 
I'll give them that I wasn't expecting how that ended. The question was off topic (if humorous in a juvenile way) and the answer was just outright racist
 
3:56 PM
@BendertheGreatest With or without the answer, that Q was rude/abusive.
 
I'm saying it might have been received better (the question itself) on another site or community, if presented as a joke and not as a legit question. No arguing that it's not appropriate for SO
 
What? There are coding sites where asking for one's mother's phone number is OK?
c'mon
 
Maybe like, TikTok or something.
 
Right
There is this also this site called Reddit where such jokes might be well received depending on the community
and let's be real, most people in their mid 30s today grew up on "yo momma" jokes
They aren't as egregious as many other inappropriate jokes
Still not arguing that such posts are on topic for Stack Overflow
 
This was entertaining, if somewhat inappropriate for the site: twitter.com/Grady_Booch/status/1289063423020396545
 
4:05 PM
Haha, that got a chuckle out of me @RyanM
especially since the actual answer is one line long 😂
Here is your even test: num % 2 == 0
 
4:33 PM
@RyanM "somewhat"...
I remember that
 
4:48 PM
@TylerH it's not the least appropriate troll post we've gotten :-)
It contained zero profanity, racial slurs, or "your mom" jokes!
 
5:40 PM
@RyanM "Code Gray" seems so appropriate. :)
 
5:52 PM
should this be closed as a duplicate or a typo?
 
is it a common typo that happens with the problem described in the question
 
I'd say dupe, given that self-answer.
The issue was that they didn't check the other thread thoroughly enough, so I guess now it can be a signpost?
 
hmm.
i'm confused
so, the answer they copied from
it's bad right?
ah, i see. it's just creating code to stick in console. ew
 
6:37 PM
That was unfortunate. this question was closed, then the user updated with their code and it looked pretty good and could be re-opened, but they almost immediately self-deleted. :(
 
They did exactly what I recommended in my close reason. I wonder why they deleted it?
 
Well, let's see if a comment helps.
 
TIL mods can comment on deleted posts
 
It's quite a useful ability.
Especially given that we delete things a lot and don't always comment before doing so...
 
6:55 PM
@BendertheGreatest definitely one of the better perks of moderatorship is not being hindered by such petty things as "this post is deleted so you can't do that"
@StephenOstermiller Note that you can undelete-vote content... :-)
 
Also note that you can vote to reopen deleted content.
 
Also that, but it's of limited use unless it's also undeleted
Given that only a moderator could comment or answer on a deleted, reopened post, and they could do that before it was reopened, anyway
 
True, but if a user self-deletes their own post and it doesn't seem to be out of vandalism, I tend not to vote to undelete because that's their prerogative
 
Might encourage them to undelete it, and also useful for simultaneous undelete/reopen.
But yeah, same. That's why I didn't undelete it.
 
Us lowly regular users can't engage with the OP on a deleted post, unfortunately 😉
 
7:02 PM
@TylerH We still can't vote on deleted posts, though, alas.
Of course, we can undelete the post, vote on it, then delete it again.
 
@BendertheGreatest for the most part, yeah, that is true
 
{toffee apples}
 
@RyanM Since you mentioned it, what happens if a deleted post gets voted to re-open? Does it "reopen" but remain deleted?
 
Yep
 
@BendertheGreatest Yes. We did an experiment in here, a while ago.
 
7:08 PM
gotcha
Was always curious about that, noticed the Reopen link was there on deleted posts since I got the rep to view them
 
It's an anomaly. Those are everywhere quite rare on Stack Overflow.
 
This room is one of those rooms where if there's a button, there's a good chance someone has pressed it in every possible way.
 
Has the error on closing deleted questions ever been fixed?
 
Make an educated guess.
 
Hmm... Didn't even make it to status-review
 
7:56 PM
 
8:17 PM
some OP inadvertently revealed usage of alternate accounts. Do you moderators want this flagged for your attention? The current one upvote on the question might as well be from the main account...
 
@blackgreen yes please
Multiple accounts is almost always worth a peek from a moderator to see if they're up to anything
 
just flagged...
 
...
 
I was a bit suspicious about the upvote to begin with, but lately in [go] there has been some people upvoting bad posts... now that this OP in particular revealed themselves, it may just be cross-voting
 
Thanks, that's definitely a helpful flag. Don't have time to dig into it at the moment, though.
 
8:23 PM
that was an easy one, they literally answered some comments with the main account using the "I" pronoun. I'm far from Dharman-level when it comes to socks
 
@blackgreen Yes, but let us know why you want us to look into it. Having multiple accounts is not forbidden. I can tell you I have 4 accounts
 
I provided some details in the flag, now that I think of it maybe I could have provided some more
nowadays I tend to forget that there are moderators who don't hang out in SOCVR
 
By the way, you can check if people have cast votes via their profile. And also you need 15 rep to upvote.
But yeah, your flag was fine. Even if you've found a sock that hasn't voted (yet?) that doesn't mean there aren't more that have.
Which I am neither confirming nor denying in this case, partly for privacy and partly because I genuinely don't know yet.
 
If that is a case of cross-voting, as of today it would be from the main to the sock
 
@blackgreen Can you believe there are 26 moderators? There are 8 or so I notice in here regularly. Not that I'm in here all the time.
 
8:35 PM
errr. right, yeah, that would make sense. More sleep and caffeine needed.
 
@RyanM uhm, votes cast: 1 today...
 
@cigien "Buttface" seems like a quality contributor...
 
@IanCampbell some are always surprising. I'm like "oh yeah, I forgot they exist"
 
@IanCampbell right, I guess not all of them are equally active though. There's at least 4 of them whose username I never see anywhere
 
@RyanM There's a quality to that contribution, that's for sure ;)
 
8:44 PM
:-)
 
Ryan M and Dharman are trying to take the top spot of the leaderboard it sounds. So there's "no work left" for anyone else. =P
 
Oh, I'm succeeding at taking the top spot in the leaderboard ;-)
But really, different mods do different things. You'll be utterly unsurprised to learn that Dharman has not stopped hunting socks, for instance.
I don't do that nearly as much.
 
I've been enjoying the break in handling soooo many flags. There's not a soul-crushingly large number in the queue anymore
 
Yeah I should probably...balance my time a little more. But it's a nice easy way to kill some time.
 
Just don't burn yourself out. I mean, Zoe was doing like 700 a day at one point
 
8:48 PM
@TylerH No, we can't answer closed questions, nor on deleted questions. Well, OK, I haven't actually tried to do it via manually constructed SE-internal API calls, but the UI definitely doesn't offer the option to answer under those conditions.
 
@Machavity Yikes, and I thought doing 3xx-4xx was a lot.
 
Ah I found a public image of the admin summary. I want to imagine you all fighting tooth and nail to outdo eachother.
 
@Machavity assuming 30 secs per flag, that's a solid 5-6 hours a day
 
@RyanM Yeah. And she's slowed down. That newbie pace eventually catches up. Still handles a lot, just not that many. Bhargav (for comparison) averaged 400 a day
@blackgreen NLN flags don't take nearly that long. I've done 100 or so in 20-30 mins
 
@blackgreen Flags take anywhere between 2 seconds and 2 hours to handle.
 
8:52 PM
I'm not totally convinced Bhargav isn't some sort of superhuman AI.
 
Obvious NAAs are the easiest.
 
@RyanM Or more, sometimes.
 
Personally I don't think I've spent more than 2 hours or so on a single flag, but I definitely did spend 2 hours on one. That was a royal pain.
 
@Makyen well what are you waiting for?!
@Machavity Bhargav's over here like, 'those are rookie numbers in this racket'
@Machavity reminds of Closey a little bit...
 
Imagining Bhargav as a superhuman AI brought up an interesting question in my mind. Has anyone here met anyone in person? Not a robot badge style.
 
8:56 PM
I believe it's well-known that one can use API calls to answer closed questions for a limited period after closure. I don't know if anyone's tried it on deleted questions.
Note that this is not a suggestion to do the former, as it's pretty easy to detect anyone doing that ;-)
 
Can we do an experiment?
 
For science.
 
@RyanM sure, you can also disable client-side validation to do it normally
IIRC the server-side cut off is like 18 hours after closure
 
This and this say it's 4 hours?
 
@StephenOstermiller My parents didn't know...
 
9:02 PM
@Machavity What was that number?
 
I think the number required to crush one's soul depends on the individual soul.
 
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9:22 PM
@IanCampbell Hm, I recall Nick Craver mentioning at one point that it was 18 hours or so
I coudl be wrong
 
9:55 PM
Did we just get a chat outage? Couldn't get here, or even the Tavern for a few minutes. (I started posting a Meta.SE question - that was guaranteed to make them come back, though.)
 
not that i noticed, but i didn't interact with chat int eh past few minutes either
 
10:18 PM
@TylerH Sorry for declining your comment flag. TIL there is no way to only decline one of the flags.
 
10:32 PM
@Dharman Queue was around 1000-1500 flags for a while. We couldn't keep up with the NAA or mod flags
 
10:43 PM
Disclaimer: I am involved in this question - I hammered it as a dupe. However, a commentator has raised concerns ... if there are any CMake or Eigen gurus around who can find a better duplicate, feel free to add/change the target, or just ping me if the hammer isn't available.
 
"suggesting him to modify the code" Yeah, you didn't do that.
 
@CodyGray But is the dupe helpful? (There are quite a few others on the MSVC __cplusplus issue and the Zc option.)
 
That may be one issue here for sure, but this does also look like a bug in Eigen with respect to its support for MSVC. MSVC doesn't support -std=c++11; the idea is that C++14 mode is fully compliant with C++11.
 
Nice finds. Thanks.
 
10:50 PM
Also... MSVC doesn't support -std=*; it requires -std:*. So that's another Eigen bug.
 
Is adding unanswered questions a mod-only thing, or can mortal hammers do that once it is closed?
 
No idea
I prefer ignoring the absurd misfeature that questions cannot be a duplicate of questions without answers
 
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