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1:56 AM
@TylerH cc @RyanM @NathanOliver That post/user was deleted 9 years ago. The process for deletion/destruction of users has definitely changed between then and now, so that doesn't necessarily reflect what currently happens.
IIRC, what happens is when a user is destroyed is all of their posts are deleted by the community user, not the moderator who destroyed the user. However, I'd have to double-check who is listed as the deleting user. It's not a case which I personally experience much, given that I usually spam/R/A delete the user's posts prior to destroying a user, so the posts are hidden behind a spam/R/A banner.
As an example, this post was reported by SD about 9 hours ago. The post was deleted via red flags and then the user destroyed. The username was denormalized.
 
2:31 AM
@KenWhite Is that R/A for abuse of the system, or just downvote/VTC as off topic?
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica I think it's an innocent mistake by a new user to both sites. I plan to just C and then delete once it's closed.
 
^ now eligible for deletion...
 
If only I had another 10k....
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica While cross-posting like that might be an abuse of the system, it's not eligible for an R/A flag in case you meant that specifically. You can custom flag explaining the situation of course.
 
2:59 AM
 
 
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4:48 AM
is this NAA?
 
5:35 AM
@tink huh? no it's not
 
Defining an alias is programming?
 
permitted symbols in a namespace is a feature of the Bash programming language, yes; you would hardly close this question if it was about Java or Fortran
^ perhaps don't go too aggressive on that one, I reported it so we have it in metasmoke
the user has been mod-flagged for excessive promotion but perhaps leave it to the mods now
 
@tripleee ok, I was getting RSI from clicking flag->spam too often anyway :)
 
6:00 AM
the NULL spammer is now promoting their library on Meta too, on completely unrelated posts, so I guess it's no holds barred if you want to flag their posts as spam now
 
@tripleee otoh, if it were a rant spammer he'd be spreading null and getting gold badges for it ;D
 
the XSS question which they spammed on seems pretty low-quality, I'm guessing there would be a better duplicate for that topic these days? stackoverflow.com/questions/5934063/…
oh actually most of the questions they spammed seem to be like that (based on sampling a few)
 
@tripleee Strangely they no longer have any posts...
 
hmm maybe just do a duplicate spree in someone with a gold badge (-:
 
@Nick Mod must have gotten to it
 
6:16 AM
@tripleee it's almost a pity the account got deleted, it had a lot of useful links to questions that were all dupes of something...
 
Is it weird the posts are handled but my mod flag is pending?
 
6:44 AM
@SurajRao Custom mod flags are not cleared automatically upon spam deletion. IMO, that's good; they shouldn't be cleared automatically, because there's just too often when the custom flag needs more to be done than just deleting the post.
 
ah ok thanks :)
 
7:14 AM
I’m confused why this answer was deleted. The question asked what the URL endpoint was for a service, and the (new contributor) provided a URL endpoint. Based on the comments, I’d normally suspect it was mistaken for a link-only answer. But a moderator reviewed and deleted the answer. Am I missing something? Was there something else wrong with the answer? (I can understand closing the question, but that’s a separate matter.)
 
@Makyen danke
 
np
 
7:50 AM
 
@JeremyCaney I agree - it looks a perfectly valid solution to the question that was asked. Unfortunately since a moderator deleted it mere mortals such as myself cannot vote to undelete. I also agree that the question is likely off-topic although I'm not certain on that category. It's not really seeking recommendations since it can have a correct answer.
 
@JeremyCaney I also agree. Maybe the mod hoped an edit would be suggested to the asccepted answer. Which is the option I prefer best in this case.
 
jps
8:04 AM
@JeremyCaney I think it's not the answer that should be deleted, but the whole question. I can't see how this is on-topic.
 
jps
8:23 AM
don't see japanese posts often
 
8:36 AM
@Nick I appreciate that. I mostly want to make sure I’m not overlooking something in my reviews. Though I also feel bad that a new contributor answered a long-standing question in good faith, only to have their first contribution mistakenly deleted. I know how these often feel like snap decisions while reviewing, but can have an outsized impact on people still finding their footing within the developer community.
 
 
 
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10:00 AM
@jps does that code allow to reproduce the issue? Is it clear?
 
Can we all please include at least one tag in addition to cv-pls so that I can decide if I feel I am qualified to weigh in without visiting the page?
 
@mickmackusa socvr.org/…
@mickmackusa I don't think this is something we have to do...
 
@mickmackusa It's a bit too much to require extra tags for all cv-pls requests. For duplicates, that makes sense. For other close reasons, they usually don't require subject matter expertize.
 
I agree with what was said above. If a question requests recommendations, or is opinion-based, or too broad, etc. etc. you can tell that even if it is on a tag for which you have no experience/qualifications
 
10:31 AM
I asked for at least one more tag. I even said please. I am not making any demands. If you don't feel like adding 9 more characters to your request, that is your prerogative.
 
Hi all, this question doesn't seem to have triggered any bots, can you do your thing? stackoverflow.com/questions/66490839/…
 
For me, No MCVE, Needs Details, and Duplicate all require me to have some tag knowledge if I am to do a good, accurate job of voting to close.
 
^^ That post got an upvote
 
Yeah, just after I downvoted it, it went back up
 
@mickmackusa the users that post here using the cv-pls-generator script already have a tag added automagically. Maybe we could create a userscript (if you're okay with running one) that fetches and shows a tag for those cv-pls that doesn't have one.
 
10:36 AM
I'm on my phone. No dice.
 
And now the user has answered it too
 
@JeanneDark Hm... This isn't the first time I am seeing spammy posts get upvotes. Something fishy is going on here.
 
@DavidG and it is gone
 
Thanks all :)
 
Maybe we need a meta discussion about abolishing upvotes? ;)
 
10:37 AM
Look, it just means I need to decide if I am motivated enough to click the link and look. Maybe work has worn me down this week and I am having a lazy Friday night.
 
@Yatin yeah, worth a mod flag?
 
Too late. I had spam flagged and didn't want to retract it.
 
@mickmackusa move to Iceland. It is always Friday there ...
 
I am a bit fed up with the subtropical life style at the moment. I miss the snow that I grew up with.
 
See! Iceland wasn't a bad idea at all. No need to thank me.
@Yatin I've raised a mod flag.
 
10:41 AM
👍
 
11:14 AM
@mickmackusa I don't agree + it's not part of the current rules
 
Yeah, putting up with subtropical weather is common conduct.
 
@MrUpsidown I AM NOT CITING RULES OR MAKING ANY DEMANDS. It is absolutely fine to disagree. Do as you like.
 
Take it easy, will you?
 
Or take it sleazy.
 
11:35 AM
^ you've got to admire the effort that spammer put into their profile.
 
Let's see if it pays out...
 
11:50 AM
@JeremyCaney As always, the answer lies with the question. The question was deleted and the confusion is moot
 
12:32 PM
^ the first link is to the user profile and the 2nd one is to the question
 
RTL strikes again
 
12:56 PM
Morning
 
1:23 PM
^ I already left a note (linking that Meta) in my reject reason.
 
Is this spam, or am I missing something relevant?
Hmm. Smokey seems to be stalking me. ;)
 
@AdrianMole Is the question off-topic (recommendation)?
 
@AdrianMole Nah I reported it
 
@JeanneDark Possibly. But totally beyond my domain.
 
Thanks
 
2:15 PM
Should repeated answers be del-pls-ed or just mod flagged (NATO with same suggestion from an older answer)?
 
If it's obviously a direct copy, then mod-flag as plagiarism. If it's an 'accidental' repeat, then del-pls is better.
Sometimes people (especially newcomers) post their answer without looking at others.
 
I believe this case is the latter. Yesterday I encountered a repeated answer with the exact same wording as another answer. Mod-flagged it as plagiarism
 
^ possible vandalism with the last edit but I am not sure
Edited
 
mck
Why are trash characters called luncheon meat?
 
@mck It's similar to spam but unbranded.
 
mck
2:29 PM
@VLAZ Ah, nice pun!
 
@bad_coder While doubt is related to 'question' (e.g. to doubt something is to question its veracity), it's less accurate to say you have a doubt when you simply do not know/understand something; having a doubt is appropriate when there is a claim/statement and you think you know enough to suspect the claim/statement is not true. Even so, if you only have one doubt, a native English speaker would typically say "I doubt this" rather than "I have a doubt about this".
When there amount of doubt(s) is unspecified, one could say "I have doubts" or "I have my doubts"; this is just one of a gazillion unspecified 'rules' (read: 'norms') in English
And when you're in the context of learning or a place where you ask questions and get answers, it's more appropriate/natural to say "I have a question about" rather than "I have a doubt about". It's all academic here, of course, because such verbiage, whichever one you choose, is fluff... just ask your question! Don't tell us you have one!
 
2:45 PM
@TylerH: the use of "doubt" as a substitute for "question" I believe is part of the Indian sub-type of the English language. Please see: Can “doubt” sometimes mean “question”?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Yes, I'm aware -- I was replying to a question by bad_coder about what's "wrong" with "I have a doubt". That question was in response to me saying some other odd phrasing was less noticeable than that particular one (almost always done by Indian speakers, though I didn't mention that at the time)
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Hehe
 
I've been reading a lot of news about hacks/attack vectors/0-days lately (thanks Exchange) and this makes me consider false flag attempts at hacking 'signatures' by using known quirks like this. I can't remember the name for that technique right now but I think there is one for it in hacking specifically
e.g. Russian hackers use that phrasing to suggest to anyone doing forensics after the fact that they are Indian instead of Russian
maybe it is just false flag
 
@TylerH I guess it falls under "misdirection" but there is probably a cooler sounding name
security people/hackers seem to be really good at making really cool sounding names for something that's otherwise not as exciting. Like "phreaking"
Or "social engineering"
 
@Yatin not sure why it was closed as Needs focus... It is asking about how to download hacks for a mobile game
 
3:02 PM
@rene cc: @mickmackusa The URRS already does add a tag to those requests which don't already have one. :; It's possible to have it work on a phone. I've used it on my phone for a couple of years (Firefox). Admittedly, the status of being able to do that became a bit more murky with an update to Firefox for Android which prevented a lot of browser extensions from working, but the URRS doesn't require the userscript APIs for most of what it does, so can be loaded into the page directly.
A future update will make the portions which do use the userscript APIs fall back to vanilla JavaScript, but you can use the primary in-chat functionality now. If you create the following bookmarklet, clicking on the bookmarklet will load the URRS into the page and it will be able to perform its major functions, including adding the question's main tag to any requests which don't have it:
javascript:void( $.getScript('https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/UserScripts/UnclosedRequestReview.user.js'))
 
mck
For dataframe questions e.g. this, if data is posted as images, does it fall into "needs debugging details"?
 
@mck One word: troll
 
@Makyen Many/most userscripts can be loaded in a similar manner. However, any userscript which uses the userscript APIs, or other userscript specific features, won't function, or will experience issues/capability degradation. OTOH, most don't use the userscript APIs.
 
3:29 PM
@Makyen As we're on the topic of userscripts, and as I know how much you just love reports concerning your own, any idea when we'll have xx-pls and Roomba-forecaster working in the new review queues? The aspect I miss most is the [review-pls] generation from Suggested Edits - that save a lot of work.
 
@AdrianMole I don't want Makyen to redo work so he should wait until the devs implement my layout suggestions, which I'm sure they'll do 100% :-)
 
@TylerH Fair comment. A number of "status-review" tags have appeared on answers to the Meta.SE announcement. Even a few "status-complete".
 
3:45 PM
Is this a request for off site resources or a valid programming tool question?
 
Since SO discovered css as classes... why not also add contextual classes?
 
@Tomerikoo 6k views in 1 year. Seems useful.
 
@Tomerikoo no
 
Good point. But then 2/3 answers are basically link-only... Got there from NATO and decided not to flag because that's what the question is asking...
@Dharman There were 2 questions there... :D
 
@Tomerikoo The question looks alright but it seems to be a duplicate. Maybe a Python SME can hammer it. Answers are link only, but I wouldn't call them NAA. They answer the question at least partially.
 
3:50 PM
I flagged it as NAA, but my flag has been declined. This is not a NAA???
 
No
@Droid I managed to fix. I had put a very long name -- is an answer
 
@Yatin how? this line has an answer I experienced the same thing but i managed to fix. I had put a very long name ?
 
Yea
 
@Dharman Thanks, I voted to close it on the first link from the comment. It seems to have both links suggested there...
 
idk... may be or may be not. this answer also got 2 deletion from the review
 
3:54 PM
@Droid If there is an attempt to answer then I would suggest leaving it. Just make sure that it isn't link only and that isn't better off as a comment.
 
@Droid It looks like an answer to me.
 
@Droid Yeah, don't always rely on the review.
 
4:19 PM
Is using this 'canonical' as a duplicate target to close against doing the now-frowned-upon "RTFM" thing?
 
@AdrianMole Unless the question is asking "how to obtain the data to fix this issue", it's not a duplicate target of a unclear question that needs to add the data to the question to fix the issue.
 
@Braiam That's how I felt. I just saw that proposed as a dupe in the CV review. I skipped (not an SME) but, I'll add it to my watchlist for RTFM hammerers.
 
AFAIK, the gold hammer should also apply to unclear reasons.
 
@Braiam Yeah, maybe. But it doesn't.
 
RTFM?
 
4:28 PM
 
I love the WABM entry
 
5:26 PM
 
5:49 PM
@AdrianMole Thanks for reminding me that these need to be updated. I'll see what I can get done in the near future, but it's unlikely to be today. I was kind-of hoping SE would implement some more of the suggestions regarding the changes, but it's unclear if or when that will happen.
 
Waiting for rene to say "In 6-8 [insert random time unit]" ;)
 
@Makyen Not a problem, in terms of urgency. The only place I really miss it is, as I said, when generating request for edit reviews: my manually-written version just don't look as nice.
... the scripts still work outside of the review queues, after all.
 
6:04 PM
@AdrianMole Yeah, it would be nice if it was working everywhere it's intended to be operational. I don't mind updating things for changes SE makes, but a lot of the choices they've made make maintaining userscripts for use on SE sites substantially more of a pain in the rear.
 
Seems like they may have deliberately broken scripts in the reviews. xD Maybe to stop audit spotters and dodgers?
 
@AdrianMole nah it's just a natural aspect of a complete redesign on the front and back end :-)
 
6:31 PM
I don't think I've seen 3 cv-pls requests for the same question in a row before :)
 
@Yatin @Dharman binned since you both got sniped by Droid :-)
@cigien that may well be a first
 
Oh lol
 
though with 3 users I would have hoped it would be closed already...
especially since cigien, a 4th user, also seems to have already cast one...
 
Well, 2 of the users don't have close-vote privileges.
 
Maybe 5 close votes are needed again ;)
 
6:36 PM
preposterous
 
🌼🌼🌼
 
7:56 PM
 
8:10 PM
 
8:51 PM
@Steve OK, so an "R/A" flag is for "rude or abusive" but "RA" is for "rant answer" ... is not?
... I gave that one a couple of votes (both beginning with "D").
 
Yeah sometimes patience is thin
 
I'm with you on that one ... if you got 'em, use 'em! (delete votes, I mean).
^ Could that last SD report just be edited to remove the email and "not for free" bit, or should we spamulate it?
... OK, @cigien spoke by deed! :)
 
Oh, just saw your message. Yeah, that's definitely not deserving of a Spam flag. Unless they repeat that behavior, or roll back the edit. Though I've never seen a user actually roll back in those situations.
 
@AdrianMole you gotta be quick around here! :)
 
I used to be quick - only ever got me into trouble.
 

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