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12:23 AM
@Makyen please bin my latest cv-pls, OP has updated Q. Thanks
 
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thanks
 
np. We're happy to do so anytime. :)
 
it's nice to see that some new users actually react to comments
 
Yeah, it is.
 
12:38 AM
@Vickel the question is still missing vital portions of information. It should be closed as Needs Debugging Details or Needs Clarity. There is no model code and there is no debugging information.
 
@mickmackusa you are completely right. I must confess, I didn't really look at it after the update, guess I'm just too tired...
 
 
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2:13 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels is there a canonical for "that's not how the global keyword works"? It seems like a misunderstanding rather than a typo-esque mistake
 
^ fair shout, I reckon
 
2:28 AM
@RyanM Good point, I don't know if it exists
 
 
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3:43 AM
hi
 
 
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6:08 AM
eh? why edit spam??
 
^ makes spam tastier?
 
@SurajRao they underestimate how fast we can delete it ;-)
 
 
7:38 AM
If database table nama_cabang doesn't exist and that is the error and we can't see the table schema in the question, the question is Needs Debugging Details, right? stackoverflow.com/q/28402662/2943403 (NATO)
 
@mickmackusa there's quite some overlap between the different "needs more information" reasons; I don't think we can be very specific about which one to use
"needs debugging details" has a help text which includes what used to be "no MRE" so in those cases it's pretty cut and dried
but very often that specific detail is not the only one which is missing
 
@tripleee do you reckon it should be closed?
 
fortunately, I don't think I am familiar enough with those technologies to really say
 
7:55 AM
@mickmackusa if what you claim is true then I don't understand the answer. Need clarity would be my call. Not familiar with the tech so can't/won't really judge.
 
This is your irregularly scheduled reminder to please not edit spam
 
8:14 AM
is this NAA?
 
9:00 AM
you flag if spam.
 
@SurajRao already done
 
@RyanM love how you commented linking to Are job offers spam? and that post already nails the format of the question. "I need, if interested contact"
 
Wow, that's really on point. That's just my usual response to job offers.
 
9:19 AM
Does a question which is clearly spam bait get flagged as spam?
Never mind, the spam answer just appeared...
 
@Nick it is a knock-out ...
 
:)
 
Is this spam?
 
10:20 AM
 
@Nick we report them as "spam seed"; they can be rather pesky, but we want them in Metasmoke
 
It's really bizarre to see what kind of posts sometimes receive upvotes.
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@JeanneDark Some times if it is too bizarre then it can be cross-voting. Worth mod flagging.
 
10:55 AM
not stellar duplicates but a very common question
 
11:16 AM
 
11:50 AM
@gnat Although the question body is poorly phrased, the question itself seems quite focused. "How to count the number of pairs where both elements are even?". The question is in the title.
 
@cigien are you making an edit?
 
Sure, I'll do it.
 
@cigien okay, I won't touch it then
 
@rene Edited. Let me know if it needs more cleanup. I think it's ok now, but I'll wait to post a reopen-pls after the cv-pls is shunted.
 
@cigien looks okay to me, I'll shunt shortly ...
 
12:00 PM
Thanks.
 
It has been 9 days. Is this question forecasts for deletion? stackoverflow.com/q/66331860/2943403
 
yeah
 
12:35 PM
"Is there anyone out there who can throw this kind of thing together quickly? (you will be given full credit of course!)"
 
dumps some PHP in an answer. Waiting for full credit
 
classes are starting to get old-fashioned in Python ... I feel old
 
12:52 PM
@JeanneDark the left one looks very focused indeed but the right one is worse than rene
 
1:28 PM
@Yatin also needs focus/request offsite resource...
 
Is this an answer? I mean, does editing the question out of it worth it, or it will still be more a comment?
 
@Tomerikoo It is just a library/tool suggestion. Better off as a comment.
 
1:44 PM
this spam answer is survived for 7 years
 
Chill. No need to spam flag...
It will die eventually
 
I get a 404... lol
 
Yeah, that is why. Either way, it will go.
 
@Tomerikoo link is similar to the user name
 
Zoe
The link in the answer is still a 404
Piling comments on an answer where OP hasn't been on the site since 2015 is pretty much the definition of pointless, though
 
1:48 PM
Yep, as said this is from 7 years ago. Link only answers and recommendation questions were more common then. As said, this will probably get flushed along with the answers pretty soon
 
what to do with this link only answer? the link is alive but feature is deprecated
 
Zoe
Leave it
We can delete the question in 2 days
 
You should just leave that page. No point in flagging each individual answer when the whole page should just go
 
Zoe
^
 
@Zoe but ... their unread notifications get e-mailed to them. So we can spam them, technically ....
 
Zoe
1:52 PM
assuming they still have access to the email, cares enough to open it, has email settings enabled, and are still, well, alive
 
Who knows, we might still have access to our emails in the after-life...
 
@Zoe wasn't there automatic opt-in when the feature was released?
 
Zoe
I have no clue
 
Clueless
 
2:38 PM
lol I just got "temporarily rate limited" by SE because I "performed an unusual high number of requests". I was un-following many deleted posts...
Dang, no excuse now not to get back to work...
 
2:55 PM
I've seen many homework questions. Now I've finally seen a homework answer.
SD should add the question's tag so if it's "Mostly punctuation marks in" an answer to a question we know it's an honest attempt at answering the question (and that there'll likely be a gold badger war raging). ;)
 
@JeanneDark it would occasionally be useful, but Smokey is already struggling with keeping chat messages short enough to be acceptable
 
@tripleee It was not a serious suggestion
 
Zoe
3:16 PM
@Droid (x) doubt
 
@Yatin thanks for edit
 
np
 
@Droid The typical close reason to use for that is the prescribed "Needs details or clarity" reason.
Rather than a custom one
 
@Droid Please don't use bold in your request reasons.
 
3:32 PM
@Makyen Oh, I didn't know that was an issue. What's the reason for that? Does it mess with the cleanup script?
 
It's too in your face for what it is IMO.
 
@cigien Because the only real reason to use bold in a request reason is to draw attention to the request. If people start doing it in order to draw attention to their request, then other people will start doing it too, just to maintain parity for their requests. No request is more important than others, particularly not just because one user is choosing to use bold.
 
Ah, I see, that makes sense. I didn't think of it that way. Thanks. (@E_net4thecircusstopper as well).
 
@cigien In other words, there's also this.
 
@E_net4thecircusstopper Yeah, I understand now. Thank you.
 
3:44 PM
I like understandings.
 
Me too :)
 
4:00 PM
@Droid Don't close spam. Flag it as spam so the system handles it correctly
 
@Machavity noted
 
@Machavity Was it that bad? I felt the formatting improvements were worthwhile but, just as I clicked "Approve," I noticed the "plz help..." So I sought redemption, in here.
 
@AdrianMole I'm just messing. Admirable you asked for a fix
 
... I was thinking of blaming the new UI, but that would have been unfair.
 
5:24 PM
 
mck
5:57 PM
Is this answer spam?
It's linking to their own github repo
 
@mck You can mod flag. It is undisclosed affiliation.
 
It is, but there's a lot more than a link. If it's one instance, I prefer to let them know the rules about disclosure first
 
mck
That user has quite a number of posts that linked to their github repos / blog posts without disclosure
 
In that case, mod flag
Red flags are only useful if we can tell why you think it's spam/rude. That one post, in isolation, doesn't seem like spam
 
mck
Thanks @Machavity , mod flag raised
 
6:16 PM
Is this answer link-only?
 
@VLAZ No, but the question is a common dupe. Just removed the whole thing
 
Thanks.
 
6:43 PM
Either mod flag or post on meta. We're not moderating users
 
@eyllanesc Have you got some evidence?
 
@Dharman Third link in a row?
 
ohh ok
 
@Dharman He has published in 2 the same link that has nothing to do with the problem only with the intention of promoting a service, the first post was already deleted for being spam, I hope the same happens with that other post
 
Yeah. Unlikely anyone would just "stumble across" a website that one has previously promoted.
 
7:42 PM
 
7:57 PM
I'm not rolling back anymore
 
 
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9:13 PM
@PetterFriberg aww one more roll back and it would've alerted him anyway :-P
 
Mayken was sleeping anyway, nothing would have alerted him :D
 
you think Makyen sleeps? :-)
He merely switches to low power mode for a few cycles
 
10:15 PM
If a user is destroyed, would a post of theirs be deleted "via Vote" by the destroying moderator, or does it show something like "user deleted"?
(if it matters, in the case I'm wondering about, the moderator is a CM)
 
@RyanM IIRC, the post stays, and the user name, if it was custom, defaults back to usernnnnnnn format
 
@NathanOliver That's true for a deleted user, but not a destroyed user: meta.stackexchange.com/a/88996/165261
 
Aha. Yeah, not sure how that shows.
 
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Q: [firefox-addon]: break out / rename to a new XUL/XPCOM tag

JamesTheAwesomeDudeI know something similar has been proposed before, however, I think that, as it stands, it'd be appropriate to do one of the following: Rename firefox-addon into a tag for questions that are explicitly and immutably about Add-Ons built on the XUL/XPCOM framework (ex: 240362, 724605, 877884), bec...

 
Yeah, going deep into the details of edge cases here :-)
 
10:33 PM
@RyanM they just say deleted, they don't provide any attribution of how it was deleted
for example, this is a post by a destroyed account (warning: potentially offensive username) stackoverflow.com/questions/4468248/unique-id-of-android-device/…
 
Ah interesting, thanks!
 
Do you say "PHP gold tag badge" or "PHP tag gold badge"?
 
gold PHP tag badge?
 
10:54 PM
@Dharman PHP gold tag badge or gold badge in PHP
or PHP SME
sometimes
or gold tag badge <holder> in PHP
 
Ok, that only made me more indecisive.
I hold gold ● PHP tag badge on Stack Overflow. OR I have gold tag badge in ● PHP?
 
Does it really matter? Either is fairly self-explanatory...
 
English has rules so I thought it matters
 
English has rules?!
 
they're more like guidelines
@Dharman I would say the latter
but honestly either one is acceptable grammatically. It's far, far less of a noticeable quirk than, say, someone saying "I have a doubt" instead of "I have a question".
 
11:20 PM
Is this general computing, or does it count as using a programmer tool?
 
@TylerH What's wrong with: "I have a doubt"? That's usual Latin phrasing.
 
It's an Indian variant that has no basis in proper English
 
@TylerH Heh, I got that reference... also, we are old.
 
11:35 PM
@Dharman doubt comes from dubia also Latin like quaestio (question).
 
Where does it say that on that page?
from Latin dubitare ‘hesitate’, from dubius ‘doubtful’
 
@Dharman Holder from Halter, etc... North-West Germanic family of languages, Frisia, Holand, etc...
@Dharman those are all derivations of the root "dubi" + "something".
 
I'm sorry but I don't understand you. The prefix is "du" from the word "duo"("two")
 
@Dharman interesting point, that would be saying the root "dubia" derives from "duo". Or "du"+"bia" and "du"+"o", making "du" the original root. Intuitively it makes lots of sense (as in a doubt meaning split between two possibilities). I also think like that, but only rarely do linguistics venture there (usually the roots are taken "as is" unless they are clear composites.)
@Dharman in that case it wouldn't be a prefix but a root. That at times can also function like a prefix.
 
@Dharman In both cases I'd say "a gold..."
 
11:48 PM
Why a?
 
But other than that, either seems fine to me.
This is where the native speaker in me wants to say "it just sounds better," but I think that it's because it's a specific thing that you have. "I have a cup of coffee," rather than "I have cup of coffee."
It's countable
"I have gold badges" is correct; so is "I have a gold badge."
 
I don't have just any gold badge. I have PHP gold badge
 
I think that it needs to be "I have a PHP gold badge." because of the fact that "badge" is a countable noun. See, e.g., depts.washington.edu/engl/askbetty/articles.php
Contrast that with something non-countable, like "trouble": "I have PHP trouble"
 
@RyanM "a" being an article in this case. Off course, if you hold a gold badge that was awarded one single time you could say: "proud holder of THE gold badge" lol :D
 

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