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14:14
@AnnZen Seeing too comments like that would almost certainly not result in a moderator message. There's no problem with a user letting another user know they are about to post a question, outside of the system/site somehow. At most, such comments are noise and can be deleted. It could only become a problem warranting a moderator message if it is happening consistently, and a lot.
If I'm concerned about a use of this room, is a custom moderator flag the only way to go?
LOL "They be closing questions in there"
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@Dharman Isn't that a SE universe staple?
@Dharman Heh.. not very specific though :)
@Scratte As far as I can see it you have several options. You could invite a/some/all of the RO's into a private room to discuss, you could just bring up your concern in the room directly, you could write a meta post detailing your issues and asking how they can be resolved, or you could flag for a moderator. Not sure a mod will do anything unless something really bad is going on in here though.
14:49
Booze and gambling
@NathanOliver I didn't mean to say that the use of this room was concerning to me. Just a use :)
I bet you a bottle of Whiskey that this question will not get closed
It's probably delicate, so meta is not a good idea. I'd prefer it not be public at all.
If I open up a room with a moderator, can they make the room private after it's opened?
Ooh, someone mention whisky? {cat tail wags furiously}
No, I mentioned Whiskey
14:53
@Scratte Yes they can
Thanks :) Of course I'd prefer it was private from the start.
@Dharman I can settle for that. Bourbon?
If that's what your after, mod flag and say you have information, but it's to much to put into the flag and would instead like to use a chat room. I can't see them turning that down.
The thing is that I'm not even sure it's my business. I'm sort of conficted.
@Scratte If it helps, I'm a professional busybody.
14:59
Ahh.. well, I can't tell you, since you're not able to have private conversations with me ;)
I dunno - do you know semaphore?
I can confirm that if you two had a conversation in semaphore, I would not be able to eavesdrop.
@Scratte is the issue that it's too much text to fit in a mod flag, or that you're unsure if a moderator is the right solution?
if the former, you could link a Gist or pastebin of some sort
@Scratte Mods can make private rooms. It's precisely so we can talk about moderation issues with a user in a way that doesn't break privacy
@RyanM I'm not sure a moderator is the right solution. I'm also not sure a Room Owner is the right solution. Maybe a Room Owner that's also a moderator, but I'm not seeing how I can put that in a custom flag. And as I said, I'm not even sure it's my business.
@TylerH Hence, "I'm assuming you're saying it's okay." :)
15:08
@Scratte Why not just ping said RO and ask to talk in a private room?
Although no, that wouldn't be good as that is public
ignore me
If only there was a moderator that was also a room owner around.
:) Yes, and pinging for moderator action is a no-no :)
FWIW the mods have a back room so if the mod you get doesn't know, they can get a hold of a mod that does.
I'd love to offer better advice, but I don't believe we have a way to chat privately either, and perhaps it's also not my business :-)
@AnnZen It's not OK because it's not what comments are for, as I have already said.
So if you see it, you should flag it as "No Longer Needed"
15:09
not that I'm not, y'know, curious. but there are many things I'm curious about :-p
Hang on guys, be quiet. I'm trying to listen in on the conversation between Scratte and Machavity in the next room over!
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bangs wall
@TylerH Which wall should we lean our ear on? The next room 71 or previous 69?
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The rooms are clearly hexagons (because hexagons are the bestagons), so there's 6 options
Wait, we're assuming two dimensions?
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15:24
hexagons stacked on top of each other
With a uh, 4D feedback loop
Definitely a real thing:tm:
Hold up. A hexahedron is just a cube. mindblown.gif
@code11 yes
In b4 Stack chat turns into the Hypercube movie series
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Haven't you noticed?
Stack chat? Stack hexagons?
Curiosity killed the cat hat upbeat glad?
Did the discussion have something to do with ice age?
@Yatin Only if you follow the theory by Ice Cube.
@Yatin Everything is always somehow based on the Ice Age.
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@Braiam What about ice hexagons?
@JohnDvorak 😁 Now I understand the secrecy. Gotta get that nut back from Scrat
15:40
@TylerH Well, I'm asking about actions that put users at risk of receiving a moderator message.
@Zoe then we can assume it is Ice type I
@Yatin The SE universe must grow!
@AnnZen Eh? If a moderator felt that they have to send a message, then no longer needed wasn't the most effective flag to use.
@Braiam Can you please elaborate? I don't quite get your point.
@AnnZen No longer needed flags are just "please clean this up". Heck I expect most of my comments to get that flag at one point in time.
@Braiam Yeah, go on...
15:47
So... why you should be worried for using the NLN flag?
@Braiam I don't know... of what? I'm sorry, I'm just confused.
@AnnZen of using the flag
@Braiam I don't think Ann was worried about using the NLN flag
they were asking if two specific comments were likely to result in a moderator message about rule violations
@TylerH Isn't this follow up from yesterday conversation?
18 hours ago, by Ann Zen
Is this conversation appropriate?
OP: Thanks, it worked!
Answerer: Glad it helped! Ping me when you ask another question.
These comments?
The first one is automatically deleted with a single flag, no moderator involved. Second the moderator would probably not bother enough about it.
15:53
@Braiam Yes
At no point has Ann suggested they are worried for using a NLN flag (or even indicated they've cast one)
@Braiam Also does a ping like that even work?
@Yatin Depends where you ping them
@Yatin You are always notified of comments on your own posts
@TylerH That's the only flag I would use :)
@TylerH Ah, so the 2nd user expects them to ping them under the current question with pointers to other questions.
@Braiam I agree
16:01
When a user continuously answers another user's questions, and they get accepted (over other answers as the asker might feel obligated to do so, to respond to the kind gesture), would mods associate that with fraud, when it's actually not?
There are far more likely explanations: like a small community.
@Braiam How sweet.
bye!
@CodyGray It's rene's, naturally
@AnnZen That's a question for Meta not this room. When investigating fraud, mods have to consider a lot of factors, but certainly exclusive interactions between two users are a huge red flag.
I would like to get an opinion of someone with no PHP experience about this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/65131495/…
@Dharman primarily opinion based / needs more details
are my opinions
I would prefer to say it is "unclear" rather than "needs more details" but they yanked that verbiage away from me.
But in theory I could write an answer for it. It's not unclear to me
@Dharman It looks fine to me. The "better performance" doesn't seem to be opinion based. It's not a trigger word for me. There could be valid difference in complexity in the two.
@Dharman assuming both constructs exist I think the question looks fine to me.
16:26
I found it strange the the two gives different results :)
Do you find it that the existing answer helps at all?
@Dharman The first part, yes. The repeating code from the Question, no.
@Dharman not that much but I have a 110% distaste for PHP
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@Braiam No, the factory must grow!
16:59
Was this a "Not an Answer"?
@Scratte self-deleted by the poster
OK. I'll tell Natty is was fine then. Thanks :)
Seems fine, content-wise, to me
@NathanOliver What's up with this? I've not seen this kind of thing before. I think that question has been asked 2 dozen times in the last 2 days.
@cigien Most likely a C++ class just started and these are people all working on the same assignment. This is actually a pretty normal occurrence. It seems every couple few months a new class starts up and a bunch of questions like this poor in.
@cigien It's probably some school final exam or something
@cigien Is this your first september? :D
um..., it's december
17:39
@NathanOliver wat
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X-D
whistles
For whatever reason I still had thanksgiving on the brain, so it's November in the brain today. :)
Ok, thanks everyone. Yes, this is my first year on SO. I've never seen this before. It's quite amusing :)
I feel sympathy for students asking hlp here, bc professors dont teach.
@cigien Braiam is referencing this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September FYI
@10Rep If students asked their facilitators what the heck they mean, it would be better.
17:41
@Braiam Easier said than done
I've found from my experience in academics that students are way too shy to ask questions for some reason.
@Braiam Same
If facilitators responded to your emails and didn't end the zoom meeting immediately, it would help :0
or oblivious that they should/can ask questions and even foster direct relationships with their professor outside of class (e.g. office hours)
@10Rep Zoom meetings are for asking questions, not to impart classes :D
(is secretly a believer of the inverted classroom)
17:42
@TylerH I was not aware of the reference. Nice :) cc @Braiam
From my experience, I am better off searching stuff online or in some book than to ask a prof.
@cigien I once found a email domain being used to created junk accounts so people could chain ask the same homework question over and over until someone gave them an answer
@Braiam It's also a culture thing. In some places you don't ask, you only listen.
Apparently the community's proclivity to closing blatant homework questions has a reputation
17:45
@Braiam And to ask, you need to unmute. to unmute, you need the professor to not make the zoom meeting a webinar.
@Yatin I asked the professors lots of questions, of course. Some of them started avoiding me :)
@Braiam You've just said that. Now it's in a huge annoying box.
oneboxing?
@Yatin Oh I read the book first, but if there's something I don't understand in the book (or a material mistake which I've found some), then I like confirmation or clarification.
Isn't that illegal here?
@10Rep Hah that reminds me of something, our profs didn't set up our teams properly. Everyone had presenter privilages. Students would mute the prof, or change their slide or kick out other students. It was hell.
@Braiam Other students/seniors. Profs are my last resort tbh.
17:47
@Machavity Yeah, I thought about that, but the user's profiles don't seem related (to my untrained eyes), so I brought it up here, otherwise I would have asked in CHQ. The class assignment argument makes the most sense here. Thanks.
@Yatin They are usually more clueless or just give up :)
@10Rep Yes.. one-boxing chat messages is debatable. Repeating your own messages like that is ..well ..I read it as: Just read it again until you agree, or something like that.
@Braiam You have been previously told not to onebox the things you recently said.
@Braiam I'll be honest: I asked a prof a question once, and he just walked away from me without response. what do i say?
@10Rep Bad luck?
Sadly, I don't get discouraged about any of that.
Which is btw, their job description.
17:50
Not all profs are bad. But some are... let us just say... different...
Whether it's their job, i don't know. I just know that they probably won't be of help, as helping isn't their job.
Some at my college should seriously consider retiring tbh.
There was a book called Damned Mathematics (I'm translating literally the title in spanish) which said that teachers need 3 characteristics: knowledge, willingness to share said knowledge and knowhow of how to share it.
The good ones have the three of them.
knowhow of how to share it. MOST important. That is what most profs lack imo
That is not the world we live in. Professors have to teach. If they don't, they're not allowed to work and do what they really want to.
17:53
^+1
Did the chat room refreshed for anyone?
So.. you can say all you want about the ideal world and all. Most of us just don't live in that. We live in the world where the professors will give grades, they may like you, may not like you. If they repeatedly do not answer questions, it's probably best to not push it.
@Scratte You may know this, but professors in college (and some in high school as well) aren't paid to teach at all. They are paid to do research, and lecture the heck out of students :)
@10Rep Err... that's not the case in my country :)
@10Rep Don't know about college or high school, but it was certainly like that at university. And asking a question had to be better prepared than any Question posted on Stack Overflow :D
17:56
If you teach, you are paid for teaching. If you research, the research project pays you.
Oh yeah, not everyone is under the imperial rule of the AP college board..
@Braiam You were kicked from the room for one minute for oneboxing your own recently posted message, which you'd previously been told not to do. It wouldn't affect anyone else.
This is like 3rd or 4th time that I see today someone upvote really bad PHP question. What's going on?
It's not me. I only upvote them when they're already closed :D
I see a downvote... maybe someone reversed their vote
18:05
That reminds me of when I had reached the rep to be able to vote on questions. I would search for -1 voted questions and upvote them. Idk, I used to think that I was helping the person. I had done this for a good amount of questions until I started reading stuff on meta and realised my stupidity.
@Dharman I was wondering how long it would take you to notice my upvote spree. PHP forevar!
People need to realise that a downvote is just taking away 2 fake internet points that won't affect anyone later in life.
Yep... Thus I wrote that on my profile :p
The more rep, more work you get.
@Yatin Interesting. I think they call those pity-votes. I also think I've gotten one or two of those. I don't do that. I will do it if I find a post is useful. I don't care much about research effort at all. If the Questions leads to finding answers, then I'm happy to upvote them.
18:07
@rene I find it hard to believe that you would go out of your way to upvote PHP questions
@Dharman ..only if you let it. But the more rep, the more changes to UI you get too :(
I rarely vote, tbh... I downvote closable questions, and upvote other questions.
Nowadays I downvote all the time. Upvotes are very very rare
@Dharman rene methods are blurry
-1 and 0 are key values. If a question is at those values and I think its good, I will vote. Or if its helpful. Meta is a different story. I love upvoting on meta.
18:10
@Yatin I find that one needs to keep a balance. Stack Overflow isn't just bad content. There's lots of good too and lots of it is 0-scored.
@Dharman maybe users think those are navigation buttons. They upvote expecting to go to the next question ....
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@Scratte True. That is my plan. After Friday, I am going to focus much more on answering (not just flagging).
Or that upvote means going to heaven?
@10Rep Not sure about that. Firing the downwards rocket would take you up, no? I mean that's how NASA used to do it.
Therefore convince people to downvote by saying "Every action has an equal but opposite reaction" :D
18:20
Not sure that's how it works. Imagine if everyone only downvoted..
@10Rep you ask a professor how long they will have their job if they try to shirk all course duties :-)
lol! Even in my liberal world that's not going to help you at all
@TylerH The thing is, I cannot ask them :D
Kinda random, but our prof once slapped a food delivery guy. You gotta watch your mouth :p
Oh my.
18:23
What country is that? It would come with a 14 day prison penalty where I live.
India
Oh yeah, that kind of thing is sadly acceptable in India
I've seen it happen quite a lot :(
Full context, it was the delivery guy's fault. Fun fact: All deliveries from that company (zomato) were restricted in our campus forever xD
One of our professors once called a student a 'waste of space'. Pretty brutal thinking back on it.
@Yatin Did you get swiggy after that? It's rare in colleges.
18:27
@10Rep Nah I generally don't order, but other students had to walk across the entire campus to get to the gate to get their zomato deliveries. Others, of course, when with other options
Oh no! Taking a walk to get your stuff means exercise! That can't be good for one's brain.
@Scratte Welcome to high school, where you have a huge school with classes half a mile apart :D
@10Rep That's just a 10 minute walk, no?
Well yeah, thankfully there's a 15 min break between classes.
@Scratte 1km
I love walking. Others are lazy. Not me :p
18:43
@tink how is that general computing?
18:57
Did you used to be a praying mantis? :)
@Scratte if you're a bit slow
@TylerH Yes. I am. I talk a lot.. it takes my breath away. Just like in the 80s :D
@Zoe Oh hey, Ms Fox - welcome back! Not seen you for a while around here
@Yatin Yikes! Yeah, that would be an arrest in the UK
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19:13
@halfer Thanks ^^ Haven't been much around SOCVR the past few months, been pretty busy. And @Nick is the only fox around here <~<
Ahem
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Zoe
What?
@Zoe { grin }
I wonder, for a person who is not a fox, could they be foxish?
Hmm.. so ubuntu needs 2,5GB of space to upgrade :( That is a little annoying.
@halfer foxy?
19:21
@TylerH Well, I thought of that, but I think that means extremely fox-like. So I don't know if that fits
Approximately foxy?
@TylerH That's toilet paper
I have an interview tomorrow, I will try saying I am approximately foxy, as my opening gambit.
That'll make them laugh, they'll say "Oh no halfer, we know you're a cat".
"Not even moderately foxish!"
@halfer ah, so you mean something other than fox-like?
@Scratte I used to be one
19:36
@TylerH Maybe something like "fox, but only nocturnally". Or maybe "fox on the side, semi-pro, may go full-time next year".
In other news: ooh, upvoting bad PHP questions just to make @Dharman grumble, now there's a project I can get behind.
19:55
c++ tag appears to be under attack of some gang of "increment" class mates / sock puppets since yesterday. How about we cleanup this mess a little bit
@Scratte I was wrong. It's 3 GB.. so now it'll crash. And they say ubuntu is so nice :(
@oguzismail - how is using a single linux command programming?
@tink isn't sed or awk the regex from linux?
yes I think so
@rene - and what does that have to do with find?
Or what were you referring to?
20:08
@Scratte had to say but it sounds like this is a user problem. Are you trying to update linux on a drive with insufficient free space?
@tink I was only looking at your chat message, not what it referred to, sorry.
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@tink find lists, sed and awk filter, and since they're regex, they're on-topic
Heh. All good. I may well have flagged other things in the past.
@Zoe - umm ... sure. But why are you telling me this? =}
@TylerH It's a VM. It is a user problem. It's just always annoying me.
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It's all possible to interpret as scripting, which is on-topic
20:15
If e.g. a find -mtime -5 is used w/o a programming context that, to me, doesn't qualify as scripting
Same with find looking for files owned by a certain user.
Sorry to everyone here. Actually , I am new here . I don't know how to use stack overflow but our teacher give us assigntment to ask a question on stack overflow . So next time , I pay attention.Kindly , Allow me to ask questions. — MUHAMMAD REHAN 12 hours ago
^^^ that increment attack in c++ seems to be for real: "our teacher give us assigntment to ask a question on stack overflow" :(
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That is tragically funny :D
Why would anyone do that?
Is it to learn how to make our life miserable?
Maybe the teacher doesn't understand what Stack Overflow is. I wonder if there is any way to send the teacher a message not to do that.
@Dharman Or... it's an appeal to empathy divorced from reality
@Dharman To get all their students Question banned early on, so when they get real assignments later, none of them will be able to ask Questions? :)
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20:33
The evidence points otherwise
@Scratte I like the way you are thinking but they can just create a new account when they get banned.
@Dharman Not if the campus is controlled by IP.
@Scratte genius ;)
20:49
@Scratte It's OK, I share your pain. It was entirely too complicated for me to update from Ubuntu 19.04 to Ubuntu 20.whatever the other night
@TylerH I gave up. It says it needs 25GB of space on their homepage. I had 10GB for it and the 19.04 used up 7 of those.
"Hey, I'm out of date, I'd like to update"
\*run the update service\*
"Sorry, you cannot update because your OS version is out of date"
"...wut?"
LOL
Since it's not user friendly enough to actually say how much space it needs to upgrade, I just clicked OK hoping for the best. But knowing how those unix-like systems work, once it's at 100% used diskspace, there's just no saving them. So.. it's out. Deleted. Gone. Never doing that again.
@Dharman wait. That's illegal.
20:53
Now I'm almost tempted to install an old *buntu in a VM with a tiny disk and update it =D
I have one Linux Mint that's also faster. So I'm just keeping that only. No idea why ubuntu was a lot slower though, but just know that it was. I only kept in in case something bad happened to the mint.
@tink Heh.. go for it :D
I've got a windows XP service pack 2 disk if you want a real update hell to go through
Btw, there is no 19.04 ... ;) ... the uneven majors are always short-term releases and have a 10 as the minor. "upgrading' from odd to even has always been an issue.
lol@NathanOliver
Yes, sorry. It was a 16.04.4. It's the linux mint that's a 19.1
Heh.
20:58
@TylerH Nice :) That's what I've come to expect from various *nix'es
@gnat I'm freaking livid...
21:41
@TylerH Debian testing baby :D
Well, actually testing/unstable because you would want non-ESR Firefox
How did this Answer get deleted?
Moderator. Presumably via an NAA flag.
... who also rolled back the edits made (which made it look less like an NAA).
@AdrianMole I do not think it's NAA.
@Scratte It clearly is NAA
@Scratte It is NAA. It only says "I am having the very same problem", "I tried", "I also tried". It doesn't say "this worked".
22:29
It says it didn't work
OP even admitted that this is not an answer, but a question
@Makyen The last sentence seem to say it worked. I have the same issue, I tried blah it didn't work. Then I tried blah and I do not have an issue anymore.
@Scratte It only explains why they tried it.
@Scratte Maybe it worked, but they don't say that it actually did work. They can edit to make it not NAA, but that's the case for almost all NAA.
I cannot remember if I put my mark on it, since I'm doing this from memory.
@Makyen ... which is presumably why the earlier (third-party) edits were rolled back.
@Scratte You didn't.
@Scratte I also agree with @Dharman that their last comment strongly implies that they still have the problem (i.e. that they didn't fix it).
22:32
But all "Try this:" Answers are maybe-it-works, no?
Also, the poster of that answer added this comment: very well, I will ask it again. Obviously this is not a very common problem but it does exist. (In reply to the canned "Me too!" comment.)
@AdrianMole Perhaps I did and then deleted it after the edit. I assume the editor did not remove their comment.
@AdrianMole Ah, well. That settles it :)
There is no indication that they meant to post it as an answer. It was just saying that they have the same problem. There seems to be no solution offered. At best it should be a comment.
@Scratte "Maybe this will work" is significantly different from "I tried this and it didn't work". [Note that doesn't mean I don't have a problem with "Maybe this will work", just that "tried and didn't work" is more clear-cut as not an answer.]
That's true. I read it differently and I never saw the comment from poster.
I think the system should let us minors read the last comments if we have the post open when it's deleted :)
22:37
@Scratte The system lets you earn 10K rep. ;)
@AdrianMole Uff.. I'll lose stuff on the way there though.
Also.. I want to Answer posts that other people don't like. This time one that's been deleted twice already.
8K at 200/day - you'll be there in 40 days (and 40 nights).
I've never made 200 on a day. I'm too slow. I can't post every 20 minutes like other users.
But we all know that you easily could.
That's a delusion. I spend longer than it looks like when I prepare a post.
22:40
One of the repeatedly referenced MIPS assembly instruction lists ended up going dark today
Should we replace all the links on SO to that page, to archive.org links?
@gparyani I think you should ask Meta. I don't think we can make such decision here
@gparyani It may be a site-maintenance issue. Perhaps best to wait a few days before taking any action (whatever that action might be).
I wonder if I should be answering easy questions or closing them as duplicates. I just VTC this but it seems like a waste of rep to close as a duplicate. :(
@AdrianMole As far as I'm aware, the owner of that page, a long-time professor at the university, has retired, and it may be policy to take down websites of everyone who ceases to be faculty
@gparyani Maybe. But that seems odd.
22:49
Any room owners here? That dupe-CV of mine is a misfire, I'd like to retract it.
That would be like burning every play Shakespeare made or every song Queen recorded, no?
@tink Please ping an RO for such requests. The most recent one will do, which in this case is @Makyen
Strangely my comment on the student post vanished. I find it a bit odd since I honestly think it's an actual possibility.
@cigien cheers
@Makyen - could you please cull my cv-pls ?
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
23:06
Makyen never sleeps.
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@Scratte I think they've actually started sleeping more now. If you compare their chat activity graph, you'll find a bigger dip around midday/afternoon UTC than you did before.
23:23
@Xnero That's probably when they're doing intensive moderator activities :)
So.. just now I learned that a trivial typo, which are ones we close and delete, are being found by users that search for compiler errors. Which leads me to think that as long as it's a searchable issue, maybe we should not be so quick to remove them.
@Scratte yes, we should be so quick! :P
@Scratte That is correct. We don't remove useful typos
@AndrasDeak Fixed it :)
Though I must admit that it's never been my first way of figuring out what's wrong with my code when the compiler barfs. I'd rather stare at it for a while than paste the error message into my search engine.
23:28
@Scratte You will probably be interested in Shog9's Answer to "Resolved in a manner unlikely to help future readers".
Nice :) Shog9 had a nack for setting things straight. I would have loved to bug Shog9 as much as I bug you guys :)
@Dharman It's a good question. IMO I don't think you're subverting the system by answering duplicates. If you do feel like earning rep that way, I think it's fine. Don't VTC posts that you answer, of course, and I'd suggest not doing that once you reach 35K since there's nothing to be gained in terms of privileges after that point.
Yeah, but I'll let this one go. I already find myself repeating the same thing over and over just using different words. If I decide to answer instead of closing then it is because I think the question will be more easily searchable than the other one.
This particular one you already VTCed as well.
@gparyani Create a github repo with the table in a md file ;)
23:41
@Dharman I'll admit it's much harder to bring myself to justify answering duplicates now that I know how much work other users have to put in to clean up after me. OTOH, 5 to 10K of the rep I earned initially was from answering dupes. That's a guess of course, but probably not far from the actual number. Anyway, I don't tell users not to answer dupes even if they're obvious, unless they have a decent amount of rep.
@Makyen There's something I don't quite understand about this post though. Is the message between the two Answers really so different as the votes indicate?
People only ever upvoted posts from Shog9 because they knew he could see who upvoted his posts.
@AdrianMole That would make a lot of sense. Only Shog9 cannot see that anymore and they're still getting upvotes. I'm sure it's not from habit :)
@SotiriosDelimanolis You can hammer in 15 min, right?
@Scratte He cannot officially see any more! But rumour has it that he's a smart chap!
23:50
@Scratte Actually, I once answered such a question, when I was young and not so firm with the close vote reasons. Dunno if I even had the privilege yet. Anyway, long story short, even before, but especially after an extensive re-write, it apparently proved useful to folks consistently over time. stackoverflow.com/posts/31196480/…
So yeah, what Shog said.
@cigien No. Answering duplicates is harmful. It significantly lowers the value of the duplicate as a signpost. If a duplicate doesn't have an answer, then users who are not logged in (i.e. most people) will be automatically forwarded to the duplicate-target. If there is an answer, then this won't happen. If someone has something they want to add, then they should add an answer to the dup-target.
@AdrianMole I do not think Shog9 would ever hold it against someone that they didn't agree with their post though. So the premise is sort of moot, no? :)
@Scratte The other answer does a poor job of explaining their position, so it can be taken multiple ways. they also answered a few/several hours after Shog9 and didn't really add much of anything.
Both my previous two posts were designed to be taken with a large pinch of salt. Obviously. (Except the bit about the rumour, that is.)
@BaummitAugen That's nice. And the error isn't even in the title :)
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Had I come across that a bit later, I likely wouldn't have answered it...
That would have been a shame. I noticed the edit summary "the problem was just caused by a typo which isn't really helpful to future users." that was later rolled back.
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