« first day (2554 days earlier)      last day (1263 days later) » 
00:00 - 16:0016:00 - 00:00

4:02 PM
> If three Nicks close a question, does that make them the holy trinickity?
Zoe's puns are getting worse
 
Strangely.. I seem to be able to vote on the same post twice. In the same direction. Is there some weird sort of caching on that?
 
Probably caching, if you check your votes on your profile are both recorded?
 
Yes, I checked, it hasn't been recorded. But can I be punished for it? I reloaded the post in a different tab and I can't see the black arrow on it, but it's there in the original tab. The only reason I noticed is that I figured I must have forgotton to vote, and looked again at the other tab.
 
If it's not recorded, then it hasn't actually happened and so there's nothing to punish for
 
Hmm.. but the score and the x and y is the same on both, when looking at the expanded score: +x/-y
But even if it's recorded, the system is suppose to prevent it, right?
 
4:09 PM
Yes... but you said it hasn't been recorded, so the system did prevent it?
 
No, I said it's not recorded on my profile tab. Which doesn't mean that the vote wasn't recorded on the post.
The score changed when I voted and it's sitting with the score that I changed it too..
 
When the system has recorded your first vote then it will prevent the second; however, if the first hasn't been recorded then the second vote will be recorded and probably prevent the first vote from being recorded. But the system can only prevent recorded votes, so preventing a vote from being recorded should prevent recording another vote. Clear?
 
Sorry, there was a glitch in the Matrix. Machavity used some PHP somewhere that was supposed to only take FORTRAN. The problem should sort itself out in 6 to 8 foreach loops.
3
 
... just for the record.
 
4:14 PM
@AdrianMole Right.. so you say that I should just vote again and see what happens? (To be honest, I'm not inclined to share the details of the post or my direction of the vote)
 
@Scratte have you done a ctrl + F5 refresh?
 
I see this sometimes on Meta ... especially when I vote on a post, following a link, then "go back" to the post I voted on: My vote appears to have vanished. Refreshing the page normally clears things up.
 
@Scratte I'm not sure anyone was going to ask, but now that you mention it ... ;) What's the concern with just voting again, what could go wrong?
 
@cigien It's not allowed to vote twice on the same post.
 
I would be surprised if there were any rules surrounding voting twice for the same post with the same account, seeing as you're not able to do it
 
4:17 PM
@TylerH Yes. That too.
 
@Scratte No, it isn't. I mean yes, but it's disallowed by the system. It's not like it's your fault if the system craps out and lets you do it.
 
I don't recall people getting in trouble when the comment upvote bug happened on meta
 
It's not on a comment.
 
If this analogy helps, voting twice requires a diagnostic. Unlike, for example, posting spam, which invokes UB :)
 
@Scratte Irrelevant, there's no rules about voting on the same post twice, there's rules about using multiple accounts to do stuff you can't do with a single account
 
4:19 PM
I voted again now.. and the score changed again. I can see the vote on my profile. But now.. I'm not sure if I have two votes on the post, or just the one. I honestly think I have two votes on it :(
 
if you can vote twice with a single account, you can vote twice on a single account
 
@Nick lol! Yes, OK.. the subtle loop-hole :D
 
But, as usual, if you think it's a bug, take it to meta, if you're not willing to take it to meta, there's nothing you can do about it /shrug
 
The evidence is lost now, as I didn't take a screenshot anyway. Plus, if I was going to take it to meta, I'd have to explain which post, so.. yeah, not doing that.
At least I couldn't do it three times :D
 
4:43 PM
Is Smokey on ru.SO an actual Smokey? And why is it in here?
 
@Scratte Autoflagging
 
@Dharman It has 1 reputation points. How can it flag anything?
 
Smokeski?
 
4:48 PM
@Scratte 21
 
@Dharman Not the ones I liked to.. on Stack Overflow is has 1.
 
Is this Russian Spam?
5
 
@Ruli I'd say it isn't opinion based, but if the source is indeed bad, you'd need to close it as "generally unhelpful to others"
 
@Scratte You are checking on so, but on ru.so it has 21
 
@Dharman Yes, I was asking why it was here though :)
 
4:55 PM
@JeanneDark Should this be migrated to math.se or philosophy.se? I think propositional-calculus has become off-topic on SO?!
 
@Scratte posterity
 
@SurajRao Thanks. At least it's not incognito :)
 
@bad_coder I don't know these two other sites. It's also a bit of a homework question (and strange tag, there's a )
 
Is making a comment on a question asking other users to downvote the post allowed?
 
@JeanneDark just as a note (that other room members might find interessting), issues of logic (first-order-logic, propositional calculus, etc) are extremely relevant to math and computation. I think it's become SO policy that those questions are mostly pure logic, thus not programming related, and should be migrated (there's a deluge of such questions on philosophy.se). I'm just saying that I'm also unsure of the exact course of action in this case...Flag for migration maybe?
 
5:00 PM
@cigien no
 
@cigien No, flag as NLN
 
Understood, thanks.
 
Asking for upvotes or downvotes on any post is not allowed
 
@bad_coder Is that question a good question for any of those sites? I'm not so sure. It also has no answer (yet), so if the OP wants they can re-ask it there (after reading their help center) while we can simply close it here.
 
Yeah, I figured. Just checking. It's an old user who is somewhat resistant to accepting site policy :(
 
5:02 PM
@cigien If it happens enough a mod might ask them to stop, or if you notice a pattern, keep a few links to relevant comments and mod flag saying that they're doing it a lot
 
@Nick No, they don't do any one thing consistently. It's just a collection of small things. And they're not completely resistant. It just takes a few well-worded comments to get them to agree.
 
I wouldn't worry too much then, just flag any comments that shouldn't stick around as and when you see them
 
Will do. Thanks :)
 
@bad_coder if you want to migrate you need to be 100% sure it is on-topic on the target and best be a regular on the target site to have that migration go through.
if not, don't migrate
 
@rene thank you, wise warning. (I was trying to find that meta-post...) I'll look into it latter today.
 
5:09 PM
@JeanneDark yeah, re-ask is the best option, redirecting to their /help/on-topic is good guidance.
 
@bad_coder Do you mean this answer?
 
Aah, another one of those useful but wrong answers :) I posted an answer to a C++ "which compiler is right" language-lawyer question, and another user posted an answer with the opposite conclusion. One of us must be wrong, and we're both quoting completely different passages, but it's not at all obvious which one. Both answers currently have the same number of upvotes. Very fun :)
 
Sounds like the question should be closed as POB :p
 
I'm not sure language-lawyer followers would appreciate that ;) Anyway, we're very particular about closing POB questions in that tag. This one has an answer, it's just no one knows for sure what it is :)
 
@JeanneDark LoL. I'm not an expert at propositional calculus, but I did study it and find the subject very interesting. The question itself seems valid and well formed (although I suspect it's simplistic, beginner level.)
 
5:14 PM
@JeanneDark Heh.. "Don't. Migrate. Crap." <-- leaving that so it's easy to find it again. As with everything else, this will come up in chat again.
 
@cigien you're both right-ish ...
 
@rene :)
 
@rene In two contradictory answers can be both wrong and correct?
 
Yes, it is undefined behavior. It is totally accepted ;)
 
@JeanneDark To be precise, they can both be wrong unless those options are exhaustive. They definitely can't both be correct, but they can both still be useful :)
 
5:20 PM
Every time I see a c or c++ post it ends with undefined behaviour.
 
@Scratte That's by design.
@cigien Just to be precise: "At least one of us must be wrong..."
 
@JeanneDark You are both wrong for different reasons :D
 
@AdrianMole True, I clarified that in a response to Jeanne.
 
I know so much about C++ if I was to ask a question about it, I would tag it
 
@JeanneDark That's definitely the right thing to do if you want lots of interested users to see the post ;)
 
5:33 PM
@cigien That's fine. The C++ users are well-known for being quite laid-back ;)
 
@JeanneDark Yeah, definitely the first adjective that springs to mind ;)
 
trying to separate the A from the Q here (NATO). I dont see anything other than the title as part of the question or maybe its just lack of domain knowledge?
 
@SurajRao Minor point, that's not NATO, it's 6 months old.
 
ok
 
@SurajRao Not a domain expert either, but it looks like a useful self-answer that OP mistakenly wrote as part of the question. Some editing should fix that.
 
5:37 PM
that ^
 
NATO is new answers to questions older than 30 days (Mod tools) but I suppose SOCVR has changed that slightly
 
yeah, that answer was new
 
@rene Oh, I thought NATO was used for posts that have new answers, but would otherwise not be eligible for cv-pls requests.
 
Also the new answer looks like NAA to me
 
@cigien NATO can be a reason for them to be eligible for cv-pls requests, but posts don't have to be >6mo for it to be NATO
if that makes sense
@SurajRao Agreed, I've already flagged as such
 
5:41 PM
@Nick Hmm, not entirely. Unless all answered posts are NATO, there must be a cut-off. Do you know what that is?
Phew, Bhargav is fast.
 
@JeanneDark congrats quite an achievement.
 
@cigien an edit could make an old post eligible for a cv-request too
 
> New Answers To Old questions more than 30 days old.
From the SE glossary
30 day cutoff, whereas the cutoff for requests in here is 180 days
 
@Nick Ok, that makes sense, thanks. Also explains Suraj's Mod tools comment :)
@TomerShetah You missed the cv reason.
 
thanks
Fixed.
 
6:37 PM
I flagged this as NAA and my flag was marked helpful, but the post is still there? It has been reviewed and doesn't seem to have been edited.
 
@JeanneDark It was undeleted by the author. There is now an automatic flag on it and it waits for a mod to delete it
 
Thanks!
 
First Posts review on it looks.. interesting :)
 
@Scratte The most obvious audit ever? ;)
 
@JeanneDark Hmm.. it wasn't an audit though. I'm looking the review of your NAA.
 
6:43 PM
@Scratte I didn't review it. But it seems someone reviewed it before in FP and chose "No action needed"...
 
@JeanneDark That's my definition of "interesting" :)
 
@Scratte I got confused by your first message and thought you were reviewing it now in FP
 
@JeanneDark Oh. Right, that makes sense. But a post is pulled from review queues, when it's deleted. I think there may be a small delay though, but it's certainly not 50 minutes. I'm quite sure it doesn't get re-entered into the queue on un-deletion.
 
Thank you! I didn't know about that
 
I'm going to keep an eye on that. I can't remember the rules of the auto-flag when a post is deleted. If I remember correctly there's a difference between being deleted by "Recommend deletion" and "Delete" and a cut-off somewhere.
 
6:56 PM
Are there any moderators in here?
 
@wp-overwatch.com we don't allow pinging moderators here for things that are flaggable.
If you have an issue that needs to be handled by a moderator, you should flag the relevant post or comment and explain appropriately.
@Dharman now in English
 
@TylerH So now it is only unclear
 
There was a user that went through a popular SO question and downvoted every single answer except one. Not sure if that should be reported and if it should be reported how to report it to a moderator. Should I just raise a flag on that question and explain to the moderators what is going on even though there is nothing wrong with the actual question.
 
@wp-overwatch.com That doesn't sound like a problem. Users are free to downvote content they don't think is helpful or accurate.
 
@wp-overwatch.com Yes, obviously. If you have concerns that something strange is going on then flag the post and explain the problem. However, you would need to explain why you think this is a problem. What's wrong with downvoting?
This does sound like something I would have done.
I actually do it quite often
 
7:07 PM
It was on this question stackoverflow.com/questions/1094841/… All 23 questions except for Joctee's were downvoted on the same day.
But maybe it's just something that I shouldn't worry about.
 
Why do you think this is a problem?
 
@wp-overwatch.com I would not worry about it and not much mods can do, you are free to go to popular question and dv every answer if you personal don't think anything is useful. If you instead think a user is targeting another user or using other users to gain advantage (sockets etc) then flag.
 
Ok. I won't worry about it. Obviously all of the answers aren't bad but I suppose downvoting all but one is about the same as just upvoting the answer you like.
 
If it's tactical downvoting, then it may be a problem.. but I assume that's unusual for old posts
 
its useless on old post... and nothing mods can do...
 
7:18 PM
If someone thinks their answer is right and every other answer is wrong, seems fair enough to down vote them all.
 
@wp-overwatch.com yep, except that you loss some reps.. :)
@Scratte I don't think mods can do much about that either, how do you prove that?.. anyway I don't think that tactic work very well.
 
@PetterFriberg I don't think one has to prove it. But if one suspects a users is doing it, I'm sure devs can surely see it.
 
@PetterFriberg Yeah, we can't do anything about downvotes against a post. If there's a pattern against a user, that's where our tools can confirm/deny
 
As currently phrased the question is also off-topic, as it happens :-)
 
@Scratte meeh what would dev's say?, you downvoted all the other!, user respond "Yes they are not useful", then what?. Mods and dev go after user targeting or favoring another user, not general voting
what Mac said :)
 
7:27 PM
@PetterFriberg So you're saying that even if I notice a user doing that every time they answer a post, I should not report it?
 
Actually, mods do have a tool against votes against a post. Delete it and no more voting problems ;)
 
lol
@Scratte I would not, but Mac knows better..
 
@PetterFriberg Well, if it's not a reportable offense, then I'm free to do it?
 
@Scratte If you think the other answer are not useful YES
 
I don't have to think they're not useful. I can just claim it.. and it just so happens to be every of the other Answers on any Question, I've ever Answered.
 
7:29 PM
honestly if you think it's a good tactic you are wrong and bet it does not work in long run, you are probably better of upvoting the other answers
@Scratte So now as as Mod or Dev what would my action be, since according to you the answer are not useful?... suspend you for downvoting answers that you think are not useful?
 
@PetterFriberg I'm not actually considering it, but I don't like that it's considered fine. But it would be very helpful with keeping reputation down.
@PetterFriberg I see the problem :) But yes..
 
It's simple you are free to vote as you wish as long as it's not related to specific user
Thrust me tactical dv does not work... if user think it works they will be proven wrong pretty quickly
Then yes there are "negative" users that prefers to dv all answers except the one they like... well ok.... as wp-overwatch.com said it's the same as upvoting one...
 
Not exactly the same. It grays out the bottom ones faster, no?
 
@Scratte sufficiently negatively scored posts are 'greyed out' but still fully opaque on hover
 
Yes, it's annoying. I remember Makyen giving me a little snippet to make it go away, but I haven't yet found out how to make it work..
 
7:39 PM
@Scratte Overall I was a bit stressed in the beginning over revenged dv (since I cv, delete vote and comment on NAA).. but in the long run a single vote makes no difference, what is useful will get upvotes, what is not will not.
 
@PetterFriberg I comments a lot though, especially on NAAs. I found my introduction to meta made a change in votes on my post more than curating.
 
I have mostly gather votes over time, since I answer in low-traffic tag... but yeah sure it was annoying get -1 by some revenged stuff... but well overtime (slowly since low traffic) other people have find it useful and that -1 makes no difference anymore...
If it is stuff that people find and is useful for them, they will slowly upvote it.. and I honestly wrote the help others more then these virtual internet points... so overall I would say that the voting works... Sometimes it can be a bit frustrating to see a very simple java question have +2000 vote... while my complex answer in specific lib has only +1 but yeah I guess more people find the java answer useful :D
 
@Scratte Just apply the following style in a user script .downvoted-answer .s-prose { opacity: 1; }
maybe with !important to make sure it takes
 
@TylerH Makyen spoke about bookmarklets, which I never investigated.
@PetterFriberg I think that the easier it is to write an Answer, the more votes it gets. Maybe it's just also easy to understand or something.
 
it's just more useful for more users... more user search for it... so more users see it
 
8:28 PM
 
8:56 PM
@cigien In that situation, to reject the first edit to a closed question, I usually use a custom reason with wording similar to:
> If approved, would put question in the reopen queue without making the Q on-topic, which would usurp question OP's one entry-by-edit into that queue.
I've never gotten around to making the autocomments userscript function on that input, so I don't have an actual stock reason. As a result, the reason I use each time varies. I might have something I've saved elsewhere to copy and paste, but my repository of those is not very accessible at the moment.
 
9:22 PM
@Makyen That's reasonable wording. In my message right after the one you responded to, I gave an option. Is that one ok? Also, and I don't remember what the situation was in this case, but should the reject reason be different if the edit was made before the post was closed?
 
@cigien I wouldn't use what you wrote. IMO, the problem with such an edit isn't really that the edit is bad, or that the edit is on a post which is of lower value. The problem is that the edit, through no real fault of the editor, will cause harm if approved. If such edits didn't push the question into the reopen queue, then I'd be happy to see users make edits to such questions.
Such edits do improve the chance that the question will be reopened, but are not very effective without also having an edit by the question OP. If the editor was just in it for the rep, then they'd figure out eventually that they would be better off selecting posts that are starting from a higher quality level, so that it's less likely the post will be deleted and the rep they got from the edit removed with the post.
@cigien In general, I don't vary the reject reason text based on if the edit was suggested prior to the question being closed. The main reason I don't is that there's just not that many characters available in suggested edit rejection reasons, and I consider that piece of information to be less important than others which should be contained in the reject reason. If there were more characters, then I'd include it.
 
9:44 PM
Brief possible service interruption 1/2 hour on 2020-11-18 20:00EST (8PM) / 2020-11-19 01:00UTC.
 
@Makyen I'm a little confused. I wasn't saying the edit was bad. The opposite in fact. The "thanks, this is noise" was in response to the editor's edit reason which said "SO considers this noise". Was my wording confusing?
@Makyen Yeah, that makes sense. I'll work on a custom reject reason that covers both cases, thanks.
@AdrianMole Why did you add printf instead of c to the request? :p
 
I added the C tag myself, after I sent the request.
... likely to be a few more C hammers than printf hammers.
 
@cigien The "Thanks, this is considered noise" could be read as meaning the edit was noise. Probably not, but I've certainly seen people misinterpret things which were, IMO, even more clear. The "In the future, consider only editing valuable posts" is going to feel like an admonishment to the editor that they did something wrong. While what they did wasn't right, it was wrong primarily because of a esoteric part of how the system works, which the user has little chance of knowing.
If there were substantially more characters available, I'd probably touch on both of the things covered in your sentences. However, there just isn't much room available. I feel that without more verbiage it's difficult to convey that part of how the editor could do better without making it feel substantially negative. I also feel those are secondary considerations in that situation.
They are important, and I'd like to cover them, and probably would with a full comment length amount of characters, but at least as far as any reject reason I've been able to write, they have had to be sacrificed in the name of conveying what I felt was more important information, or because I wasn't able to convey a tone with which I was comfortable.
 
@AdrianMole Oh, I see. Definitely a good idea :)
 
Even people that have been here a while cannot agree on valuable posts, so perhaps it's a little too optimistic that low reputation editors will be able to.
 
10:01 PM
That too.
@Scratte @NathanOliver @cigien @Ruli @Nick @Zoe There is actually a spectrum to what constitutes plagiarism. Cody Gray gives a good overview in his answer here.
For Stack Overflow, the minimum is that the user follows the requirements stated in How to reference material written by others. How aggressively moderators will pursue plagiarism and how much of an answer is permitted to be copied is something that will be a judgement call on the part of the moderator. As with many such things, it will also depend on the user's overall contributions and what we can interpret of their intent from what they posted.
Implicitly or explicitly taking credit for other people's work is not acceptable. All work in a post on SE is stated as being the OP's. If the OP doesn't explicitly state that the work is by someone else, then they are implicitly taking credit for it.
However, if it looks like the user tried to comply and clearly indicated that what they copied wasn't their own work (not just a link, but some statement indicating "not mine"), and the user has other constructive contributions, some leeway for exact form may reasonably be granted.
As to how much copying is too much, again, that's a judgement call. In general, the copied content should merely supports your answer, rather than be a large portion of it. On the other hand, I've seen a question which was asking for the steps to upgrade from one version of a piece of software to another. The authors of the open source software had long, technically-detailed instructions for upgrading from/to each version on the project's site.
In that case, IMO, it would have been inappropriate to reword the instructions, due to the possibility of getting a technical detail wrong. Thus, (if there weren't other issues with the question) the best answer would have been primarily a direct copy of those instructions (with credit given, a link to the original, and a statement that the user really should get the information directly from the original source).
 
@Scratte Ooh, burn ;)
 
@cigien I would have written: This post is closed, so any edit has to make it fine for Stack Overflow, because the edit will push it into the reopen queue. If you'd like to know how to predict if a post will get closed before you edit, you'll unfortunately have to get a crystal ball, because there's no consensus. Any post can get closed.
 
@Scratte That doesn't fit into 150 characters, which is the maximum available. :(
 
@Makyen Yes, that's a good point. Given the brief space, it's better to make it clear why I'm rejecting, rather than try to explain what the OP did wrong. I'll stick to a version of your comment for now. Perhaps a link to a MSE, or MSO post that explains this would work, and it would fit in the message as well.
@Makyen True, but I suspect Scratte's suggestion is tongue-in-cheek :p
 
10:07 PM
@Makyen How about: You're a good editor, but your edits will get rejected on closed posts. If you're fine with that, continue.
 
@cigien A link could be good, but I don't recall one which says all I'd want to say. I have been tempted to create posts just to be targets for such situations (and many others).
@Scratte It would work, but I'd rather give them enough information to understand why, which can fit in the available space.
@cigien Likely true :)
 
@Makyen There's not enough space to explain why..
 
@Makyen That's not a bad idea at all, I think there should be a good resource for editors to know why they got a good edit rejected. Maybe I'll try my hand at that, though a target written by a mod would certainly carry more weight.
 
There are already meta posts about edits putting closed posts into the reopen queue.
 
@Scratte Well, IMO, there barely is. It's not great, but it can communicate. I can say that I've never had anyone to whom I've given such a reject reason ask me what was going on. OTOH, in the same situation, when I've rejected for stock reasons or just forced an edit (when I was a close-voter, so the edit wouldn't put it in the reopen queue), I have had users ask for more explanation as to why their edit was rejected or how the stock reason applied.
 
10:17 PM
To be honest I don't think this whole suggested edits is a good idea
 
10:46 PM
Hmm, I flagged the last SD report as R/A, but someone edited the post. Should I have not flagged it?
@mickmackusa Based on the comments, I think the OP would have deleted the post if it was suggested to them.
 
11:09 PM
@cigien sometimes we try to salvage stuff. Depends on mood. Better retract that flag
 
@rene Hmm, ok, it is currently marked as disputed. When trying to retract, it says "you have already raised a high priority flag" under both spam, and R/A. What's that about?
 
If it is disputed then a mod already handled it.
 
@rene Ok, why is it saying I raised 2 flags though?
 
@cigien it only knows you raised a red flag. Either spam or R/A. It can no longer tell which one it was.
 
@rene And so it says I raised both? :p Seems better to just guess one, but it doesn't really matter.
 
11:25 PM
@cigien yeah
 
@cigien it is normally impossible to, for instance, cast a spam flag, retract it, then cast an R/A flag, so casting either blocks casting another of both.
 
I'm a little confused by this question. I'm inclined to delete the first paragraph, but looking at the revision history, Shog9 decided to leave it in there. Normally I don't care who edited a post, but ... Am I missing something? e.g. was that a reasonable intro to leave in a question 7 years ago?
 
How can I flag a user's account which was only created to dump their real estate business (and phone number) in their profile and they haven't used the account in 3 years? No questions, no answers, no activity at all.
 
@RyanM Ah, that makes more sense. Not a lot more, but more ;)
 
@mickmackusa We don't do that actually
 
11:27 PM
@cigien despite my eternal respect for Shog, I'm gonna say he was trying to remove the answers from the question text, and unintentionally added an irrelevant paragraph back. Even Shog can make small mistakes :-)
 
@mickmackusa Why is that a problem?
@RyanM Ok, so that text is irrelevant then? I'll edit it, thanks.
 
@cigien yeah, +1 for removing it
 
@RyanM Just find one of his many posts and flag for mod attention! xD
 
@Dharman I know that this room doesn't target users -- which is why I didn't post the link -- I was asking advice about how to purge accounts that have no intention of using the community for what it is. It is a form of abuse to use Stack Overflow to promote your real estate business.
 
Unless they have actually started posting on Stack Overflow we don't flag the spam accounts. They are created in large quantities everyday and the official guidance is that it's a waste of time trying to fight them. We just leave them be and from time to time eployees purge them all in one go
 
11:30 PM
@RyanM np. And yeah I raised a vandalism flag on that edit ;) I've got you covered Adrian :)
 
@Dharman Boo! Give bad behavior a pass because there is a high volume of it. Mick no likey.
 
How did you find it?
 
I was searching for the word "Brisbane" on the Users page. It isn't hard to spot.
 
Unless they post something you have to be actively looking for them to find one
 
@mickmackusa I'm definitely with you on that. Flag it then. I didn't realize it was actually considered a problem.
 
11:32 PM
Very related discussion about spam profiles: meta.stackexchange.com/q/303746
 
If you think the one you found is a problem you can raise a mod flag and a mod will happily delete it and mark your flag helpful, but in general this is just not worth our efforts. BR had some tools to monitor them, but even for a mod that was too much work. Let employees handle it
 
OMG!!! Search for "Real Estate" as part of the username, then look for 0 rep / 0 answer / 0 questions and you will find many blatant advertisers! Surely, Stack Exchange HQ can run some basic scripts to check for the most flagrant violators.
 
@mickmackusa You cracked pen a big can of worms. I just searched for usernames beginning with "cheapest" and found a batch of spams.
 
I see no way to flag accounts that I think are spammers.
 
11:37 PM
Post on Meta?
 
Gotta work, sorry can't meta right now. I am happy to pass this torch if anyone wants to make a post.
 
Just compile a large list of things you want action on, and post on meta. It works beautifully ;)
 
^ Ouch!
 
Part of the solution/answer to the question of how to combat this would be to suggest an reasonably accurate algorithm to assess the worst abusers. Dharman's Autobiographer badge, over a year of inactivity, no Q's, no A's.
 
11:51 PM
Does anyone have any idea how big of the employee escalation backlog still is?
I wonder what happended to my escalation from 5 months ago
 
I guess only the mods can really know that. (Actually, a reply to your previous question.)
 
@Dharman Should've been done in the ticket backlog burndown, I'd expect...
 
I doubt it. Some of my escalations only got handled today and there are still some that I am waiting to be handled
I can still see users gain rep, so I sincerely doubt the issues got resolved then
 
@Dharman But.. I'm on that list too :(
 
You gotta go, Scratte. You're a spammer and your account has been flagged.
 
11:55 PM
@mickmackusa But it's not really a problem. Since they don't post..
 
@Scratte It was nice knowing you, Scratte.
 
If there are silent mods in the room I would appreciate if you just would let me know whether to wait for few more months or reflag these accounts. I keep a spredsheet so it's not like I am going to lose them
 
@Scratte All of these accounts equate to unnecessary data storage. Processes will be running over these accounts despite their obvious lack of validity. Queries will be checking for positive matches against loads of accounts that shouldn't exist.
 
@mickmackusa FWIW at least they don't seem to be indexed by Google (not the exact one you were complaining about, but similar)
 
@mickmackusa I think it's peanuts really. If it was a problem, they'd be removed.
 
11:59 PM
@RyanM The third result there is literally the spammer
 
I think isolating and removing clearly invalid accounts is just part of maintaining a good clean system/community.
 
Besides I did research before and Google definitely does index these accounts
I believe this is the main reason they exist, to bump SEO
 
00:00 - 16:0016:00 - 00:00

« first day (2554 days earlier)      last day (1263 days later) »