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@Turing85 Fixing a lot of the problems in the existing framework is a major goal of Jetpack Compose :-) (I should disclaim, in case it's not obvious from my previous use of "we," that I work on this project)
 
12:17 AM
@Turing85 My docker is a little rusty (...okay, a lot rusty), but wouldn't the configuration be in the gcr.io/deeplearning-platform-release/pytorch-cpu.1-4:latest image/its metadata?
 
@RyanM not necessarily. I see a volume mount. I suspect it being mounted through it.
 
Hmm, that's plausible. Makes sense.
 
I am out for tonight. Have a good one, see you guys
 
 
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1:43 AM
I find this user has a strange resemblance with Machavity :D
 
 
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3:01 AM
What would curators advise in this case? It's a homework question (with several mistakes) that probably served its purpose by now. I answered it, not accepted. Both Q&A are down voted and it won't roomba. If I delete my answer, some other member may be led to employ his time needlessly...And 2 comments contain technical value, so a flagging them would likely be declined...
 
 
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@TheMaster I have to say that if that was open, I would vote to close it. I don't believe there is enough information in it to give an answer that wouldn't mostly be a guess.
 
@Nick I can answer with facts and research. But what OP is asking is currently not possible. I'm curious though: what more details do you expect?
 
5:14 AM
There's no code in the question. How can you tell OP how to modify their code to shuffle the answers if you don't know what their code looks like?
 
@Nick OP just wants to see if there's a way to "Shuffle answers". It doesn't matter what form op has or what code he has. It just deals with one option: to setShuffleAnswers() like he setShuffleQuestions(). He did his research and says he couldn't find a method( and that's right. There isn't one)
 
@TheMaster it seems from the self-dup @Vega found (another reason to leave this one closed) that there's an answer already. If you want to answer the question you could answer that one instead.
 
@Vega Great. Missed that.
@Nick Still better to close as duplicate. The questions and the edits I made would be linked and not be deleted by roomba. The question is valid to stand on it's own.
 
6:08 AM
As I would still like to preserve the question, If any of you vote to reopen, I can close as duplicate. Thank you.
 
6:21 AM
@TheMaster I have re-opened. Hammer away...
 
@Nick Done. Thank you.
 
np
 
6:47 AM
I had a computer beep at me once. I had no idea where was a list of bios beep codes.
 
7:09 AM
Can a VLQ flag on a Question be declined? ..from Triage?
 
7:41 AM
Does anyone remember the meta post about a user that reached 10K and then found the 900+ upvoted 7-word Answer ?
 
@Scratte From H&I queue, yes. Could that be applied to Triage?
 
@Vega Flagging a Question VLQ sends it to Triage.. Do you mean you've gotten a VLQ flag marked declined once?
 
I have to check for Triage queue (I have not been in there for a while), but I had many VLQ declines from H&I
 
Is this "explain this code to me" question still acceptable?
 
@Vega Ahh.. but then it seems Yes. You flag it VLQ in H&I, then the post goes to Triage, then it's probably marked "Looks OK" there, and your flag is declined.
 
7:50 AM
@JeanneDark as per this meta post (its top answer specifically) I would at least see it as very low quality. But I am sure one will find other meta post directly conflicting with this statement.
 
@Scratte Some were declined by a mod
Almost all were deleted after
 
@Vega Oh. So they were not declined by the queue itself? But by a moderator?
 
@Scratte Some by the queue, some by a mod
 
@Scratte I'm trying to find the Answer on main..
@Vega Oh. That is strange though. Since when I flag inside the Triage queue, my flag is at most disputed, not declined.
 
@Turing85 Thanks, there seems to be a fine line. I saw this meta post but it doesn't have that many upvotes. Not sure if the OP's effort is enough. It's a bit strange since I'm not sure how it could be of use to future visitors (searchable title etc.).
 
7:57 AM
@JeanneDark The "future visitors" argument is not a very consistent one. We readily remove any how to Question that doesn't show effort, but keep every debug one.
 
@Scratte Some debug questions are actually useful when the error is a common one. In this case I'm not sure how anybody could even sensibly find it (keywords, title etc.). In case of a debug question, the error message as title is already fine.
 
@Scratte I think it is because I had closing privileges when flagging and the mods wanted me to CV. After some declines, I understood and stopped :) But it seemed the right choice to click on that link/button - "VLQ" instead of editing. Also, the "close" link is not available in H&I, you have to go on the actual post page to CV. I do have a lot of disputes on VLQ
 
@JeanneDark When the error is part of the title and it's find-able, then yes. But we keep almost all of them, even if the title says "pls help me debug my tic-tac-toe"
@Vega Now I'm confused. Are all your VLQ declined from moderators and all your VLQ disputes from the queue? :)
 
@Scratte But in such cases it might be solvable by editing (if the OP was just sloppy). But how to do it in case of having to explain random code?
 
@JeanneDark That's just useless unless it's very specific and searchable :)
I mean when I get confused about code, I don't ever go to google and ask it find me all posts on Stack that has "Explain code" in the title :D
 
8:10 AM
@Scratte Sorry for my confusing writing :( For declined ones, I have both type, from the queue and from the mods. For the disputed ones, it's hard to tell
 
@Vega Ok. Thank you :)
 
Mods can't dispute non-red flags. Any disputed flag other than Spam or R/A is from a queue.
 
8:24 AM
@RyanM But then when a VLQ flag declined from Triage and when is it disputed?
 
@JeanneDark @Scratte @Vega by this line of argumentation, we would have to purge ~90% of all questions (at least on the java tag). Just look at the response when you close as duplicate of the NPE canonical or "what is a debugger" canonical. People often claim that the knowledge transfer from one question to another is too high, thus it is not a direct duplicate and explaining the transer would be an answer in and of it self. Guidelines and how it's lived seem to differ.
 
@Turing85 You are right. The result of how things are done conflicts with the goal of the site. I don't mind Answers on duplicates as long as they are closed as duplicates though. It makes them easy to find. I do mind the closure of low-effort how-to Questions though, because I want to know how to do that too and so does other users :)
 
@Scratte Why is that an issue? If you think there may be a good question lurking, you can write your own good version of the question that won't be closed.
 
@Scratte Well, my perspective differs on this one. I see some (high-rep) users blatantly answering duplicates. I think that this approach, given SO's nature, is neither deisrable nor helpful, ESPECIALLY when it can be written as a comment (and it often can).
 
@JeanneDark I do not write Questions on Stack Overflow.. I just search for Answers to other user's Questions. I have no wish to get my posts closed and get through that uphill battle.
 
8:37 AM
Furthermore, we want to be "open" and "welcoming", especially to inexperienced users, but then we have meta posts like this, basically discouraging all form of newcomer-questions alltogether. Answering newcomer questions is not to provide canonicals, it is an individual task, providing to the concrete person having a concrete problem. So yeah...
 
@Scratte It may then not be a solution to the problem you can apply, but it is a solution in general. Closing low effort questions is not that much of a problem.
 
@JeanneDark Except when users find answers on non-stack sites :D
I will find an answer to my question.. if I get those more somewhere else, that's my default go-to place.
@Turing85 That is a horrible post, if you ask me. If people did that (and I do) we would have no Questions on stack at all.
 
@JeanneDark Do you know the meta-post i linked in my last comment? Writing a question that does not get downvoted in the ground is hard work. The last question I posted took me +6 hrs to formulate. With the result of getting one answer of a person that either did not understand what I was asking about, did not read my question thoroughly or both.
 
If I do not know how to do something, the effort needed for me to "write a good Question" is almost the same as finding out the Answer. At that point I have no incentive to add that knowledge to Stack Overflow.
 
@Scratte It is a horrible post, but it is how SO is lived. Just look at the downvotes on newcomer questions that are low quality. But a newcomer to programming does not know the jargon, does not know best practices, does not know what to search for. This in and of itself is a process of learning.
 
8:43 AM
@Turing85 I know that post. Might mostly depend on the tag? I see plenty of bad and even off-topic question get upvotes.
 
@Turing85 I think this is a result of a misconception. Writing a good Question is about making is clear and understandable instead of confusing and all over the place. But instead of sticking to that, it's become "What have you done so far?", "Where's your code?", "You didn't search for the right thing".
 
@JeanneDark I am not experienced enough on a broad scale wrt. tags. I mostly dwell in java, docker and kubernetes. From what I observe, docker and kubernetes seems to be more lenient. My hypothesis is the size of the tag: the larger, the harder "to ask".
 
@Turing85 I just browse the main page with all questions for questions that might be off-topic.
 
@Scratte "Where is your code?" is a defense mechanism to a) prevent students from learning nothing and b) not offering a free coding service. The former can be dropped iff. there are some parts left out intentionally or the code is discussed in details and maybe on a slightly different porblem, giving the poster a chance to transform theknowledge on their problem. "You didn't search the right thing" is a result of the "canonical aproach".
 
@Turing85 I've used the comment in this post many times since I saw it. I found it useful. And I'm not one of those lazy users everyone seem to hate to much to the extend that they will outright remove knowledge just to "teach them".
The most stupid thing about it, is that I do not actually have a direct link to the comment, but to comply with the license I have to link to a deleted post :D
 
8:53 AM
@Scratte I remember you mentioning a split SO for "newbies" and "professionals". Instead of this, I would propose something different. What if there were tags specifically for newcomers - or learners - with a policy of not closing, not deleting, more interaction and taylored answers for the learner? Only rule applying would be "no GMTC-questions"
 
No. I've never proposed a split SO. I think that would be a mistake.
@Turing85 Most posts I land on when I want to know how to do something is a variation of "GMTC"..
Here's how it goes: Search for "keyword keyword keyword". Go to post. Skim the Question. Do not read the code. It doesn't work anyway. Go to Answers. Anything useful ? use it : go to duplicates..
Next time you find you need an answer to something, just look at the Question on the Answer you find useful :)
 
oh well. Maybe I should shift my desire to mentor to reddit or some other platform. Or maybe I should start working at an university again...
 
@Turing85 This has been suggested quite often and is very unpopular. SO doesn't want to and is not suitable to be the place for every question possible related to programming.
 
@JeanneDark Then SO should stop trying to pretend.
 
@Turing85 Stack Overflow is a clash between what's good for the company, what's good for curators and what's good for individual users / users searching.
 
9:06 AM
@Turing85 Well, the tour gives a good indication of what the site is about ("library", "no chit-chat", no "primarily opinion-based" or "generate discussion" etc.).
 
@JeanneDark Which circles back to "being open and welcoming": Do not ask for clarification (this would generate a discussion), close, delete, be done with it.
 
@Turing85 Asking for clarification is explicitly encouraged and doesn't necessarily lead to discussion, rather to the OP editing their post to add the missing details.
 
That almost never happens though :D When there's a response it's often posted in the comments too.
 
And can then still be edited into the question.
 
But almost no one does that. A moderator also told me that's the responsibility of the author. Close the post.
 
9:15 AM
@Scratte that is in direct contradiction to Cody Gray's comment (which I btw disagree with, it is not my responsibility to "polish up" someone else's work). It also feels a little bit like "I make the question in something I want so I can answer it".
 
@Turing85 That is a little funny.. since I believe is was the same moderator :)
I'm going to have to try to find that, since I am not sure.
@Turing85 That post is the one that links to the other post with the code I keep using btw..
 
@Scratte not necessary. I do not want to play the blame-game. We are all humans, we are not 100% consistent. As I see it right now, SO has an identity problem with regards to newcomers
@Scratte I know 😉 that's how I found it (a few minutes ago)
 
@Turing85 The thing about conflicting messages is that one doesn't know what to do anymore. Having a link to the statement really helps. It's not about blame, it's about having a reference and explain one's action. If I flag a post to be closed because the details are in the comments, I'd like a reference to explain why I did that.
 
@Scratte It's not necessarily a contradiction. Perhaps they wanted to say that the question is still closable even if the missing details are added in comments. I doubt that anybody would punish you for editing info from the OP's comments into the question (at least if you can directly edit).
 
@JeanneDark Stack would. By rejected it when "edit conflicted with a subsequent edit"
 
9:29 AM
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@Scratte But this type of rejection doesn't count against you in case of a edit ban.
 
@JeanneDark So? It counts on my statistics.
 
@JeanneDark I beg to differ. I stand with my clear-text name on SO. Everything posted under my moniker is traceable to me as a natural person directly. I am quite protective of my posts and I think a lot of people are. I do not like to see unwanted changes to my posts unless they are reformats or removal of typos. Adding any relevant content without my permission feels kind of intrusive and may even change the intend.
 
{ Halfer ponders some fluff or grammar tweaks for Turing85 :=p }
 
@Scratte Have a look at Martijn's answer. Yes, it doesn't look nice but that's all.
 
9:31 AM
@halfer ?!
@halfer ah ok, got it =)
 
@Turing85 I found the reference saying The asker needs to make the edit.
 
@Scratte In this case, I would strongly suggest following the comment you linked. The comment I linked before is from 2016, while the comment you linked is form this year.
 
@JeanneDark Doesn't look nice is my main problem with it. My rejection ratio is 5%..
@Turing85 You're reading the date wrong. It's from April 16th, but the year is 2020 :)
 
@Scratte god damnit! Who the hell invented MM-DD-YYYY?
 
Americans? :) When the year is present it'll put a little ' on it, as in Apr 16 '20
 
9:38 AM
@Turing85 You can disassociate a post from your account.
 
@Scratte Five tomatoes, huh?
@JeanneDark Most of my higher-voted post took quite some time, and I tend to curate them from time to time, so disassociating means giving something up that I put quite some time and effort into. I prefer to roll-back the unwanted edit (or rephrase it, so that the original intention/tone/... is preserved).
 
10:00 AM
Coming back to the whole concept of being open and welcoming... is this questio a duplicate of the canonical debugger or would that be not welcoming?
 
The SD reported answer is verbatim plagiarised from the linked page in the answer. Is that wrong given that they did link to the page, but didn't say they'd copied everything from it?
 
10:28 AM
@Turing85 {giggle}
 
@halfer you made me paranoid x) now I have to check my answers for edits of yours
 
@Turing85 Heh, you need not worry - you get notified for every edit made to your work.
 
@halfer As I said: I am paranoid 😉 have just taken a look to be sure :P
 
@Turing85 Or maybe I have hacked Stack Overflow so it doesn't notify you of my edits {cackle}
 
@halfer In that case you've earned it 😉 I am not that paranoid to crawl through almost 400 answers.
 
10:53 AM
I suspect @halfer may be the Community user :)
 
11:12 AM
I thought this question lacked focus (explain me the code, code dump) and may also need more details or clarity (e. g. no programming language tag). Am I wrong and it's okay?
 
@JeanneDark In my opinion, it lacks details (programming language used). The focus is debatable. The scope is limited to 6 lines of code, which may be acceptable. It would be clearer, however, if OP specifies whether they have problems understanding the palin data stucture, the print-part or both.
 
@Turing85 Thanks! It's especially the last part (not so clear what exactly they don't understand) that I interpreted as "needs more focus".
 
1. What they ask 2. What they say they meant to ask 3. What finally turns out they really wanted to ask.
sigh
 
@πάνταῥεῖ the onebox ;)
 
What is your stand on unformated code? Do we as editors fix it or do we comment? Exaple: this question
 
11:19 AM
@Braiam Of course in the onebox
Aren't one boxes no longer allowed here?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ What the customer really needed 😀
 
@πάνταῥεῖ yep, rene kind of left the MSE chatroom for that reason.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ See the FAQ
 
@Turing85 I know that one of course ;-)
 
@Turing85 I wouldn't do it for larger parts of code.. what if an error sneaks in?
@Turing85 But.. this is what I meant by not really useful for anyone else.
 
11:40 AM
So how do we treat posts asking for something illegal (in most countries)? See this post.
 
@Turing85 Is this answer helpful?
I guess in most cases, such as this one, a question asking for so much is likely closable as "needs more focus".
 
@Turing85 Not to mention that if someone not able to do it and having to come here to ask is a pretty silly action, these questions mostly turn out as needs more focus and will be closed.
 
@JeanneDark In this special case, it is different. I have not clicked the links, but if they provide what OP suggests, they promote illegal activities. Therefore, the question should be removed asap.
 
@Turing85 ^^ See?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ The main issue I have with this particular question is the fact that illegal content is (most likely) provided in the links.
 
11:49 AM
If you don't have trust in enough people doing it here, just mod flag for that reason.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I already did x)
 
@Turing85 This MSE answer seems also useful.
 
@JeanneDark Thanks. That nails it.
 
I think there's a difference there. Linking to a site where one can download illegal content is not the same as writing software about how circumvent laws. I read a meta post about not policing content because 1. we can't really do that and 2. there a blurry line between what the use is. Is it to spy or is it so avoid being spied on? How can you really tell? Is it important to be able to tell?
 
12:09 PM
And again: 1. What they ask. 2. What they say ... etc.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ lemme add to this with this post
 
Slightly different levels of stoopidness.
 
1:09 PM
^^Spam
 
1:25 PM
Hey @Hover Nice to meet you (again)!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Hello stranger! Glad to see you back!
 
Story time! @HovercraftFullOfEels how did you came up with your name?
 
Exactly: the Hungarian Phrase Book skit
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Just as well you didn't choose the last phrase in the video...
 
1:34 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ @HovercraftFullOfEels Ah I see... men of culture
 
Of course we are ;)
 
Monty Phyton, the suburban tribute ensemble named after the famous comedy troupe
we also often see phyton and pyhton questions on the main site ;)
 
Mostly skewed up indentation :D
 
@AndrasDeak There was even a tag for a while.
 
ugh
 
1:38 PM
... or spelling problemz in general XD
 
I've been joking that python 2 should be renamed pythoff and python should just mean python 3
 
@Turing85 Indeed, and all of it "low"
 
we are all individuals, aren't we?
 
No I am a bot
 
@AndrasDeak Bit too Karate Kid: "Python, Pythoff, Python, Pythoff..."
 
1:40 PM
A German bot with a Greek name
 
 
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@sideshowbarker Apparently, that question is "is one of the most organized and detailed ive seen on this platform" according to one commenter in the rather bitter comments.
 
that is a lot moved at once ....
 
@rene Maybe you should write a script to do it for you?
 
I don't fancy a script with RO powers. This moving stuff scares me enough. I expect some day I move this whole room to /dev/null by "accident"
 
hehe. But what's wrong with a RObot?
 
I was a bit time constraint today and had family business to attend that didn't allow for open laptops (assuming the elderly home where my mom lives even has decent wifi)
 
3:19 PM
I've heard rumours (unsubstantiated, of course) that there are moderators who will happily delete entire user accounts using their mobile phones. So what's the problem deleting a mere chatroom.
 
fair point
 
Is this R/A? Or spam? I put an R/A flag on it but then retracted ... maybe there's something more subtle at work?
 
@AdrianMole that will be R/a for me,. flagged
 
Alas - I can't un-retract. :(
 
@AdrianMole I've flagged R/A aswell =)
 
3:27 PM
I'm not Fred - he's my brother. ;-)
 
x)
 
@AdrianMole there are also 2 other not awesome deleted "answers" one from 21 hours ago.
 
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5:52 PM
@halfer @Turing85 To be notified of an edit to your post, the edit has to be "substantive", meaning changes to: the title (>10 character change?); > 2 characters of code; > 10 character change (fuzzy diff algorithm) to the text displayed in the body (i.e. this does not count Markdown changes; e.g. if it's only a complete change to a linked URL, you're not notified). Refs: 1, 2, 3
 
6:10 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Please don't post links to questions or answers just to shame them (i.e. just to complain about them). I know you're frustrated. However, there are limits to what you should do, particularly here in SOCVR, with respect to expressing that frustration. Note, I'm not saying you shouldn't post requests asking for action on questions and/or answers, but posting just to shame (or thinly veiled similar reasons) isn't appropriate. cc @Turing85
 
6:22 PM
@Makyen OK, noticed.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Thanks.
 
6:53 PM
 
7:14 PM
@Makyen Ah, good reminder, I had forgotten about that. It may be a useful vector to smuggle cheeky changes into Turing85's posts! {cackle, cackle}
 
 
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9:03 PM
lol! I just failed an audit.. not because I didn't want to flag it, but I just accidentally hit the wrong button :D
 
@Scratte I think that counts as "not paying attention!" Personally, I think the UI for reviews should follow the Facebook lead for hiding Ads - randomly rearrange the button positions, just to make it harder.
^ Just kidding, on the second part, BTW.
 
@AdrianMole I suppose. I was thinking "That's spam.." hit the flag! and then Oops! :)
Had it been a real review, I would have found it from the history and most certainly flagged it.
..and taken the 4 days vacation, which I think would also have come.
 
9:26 PM
What the rule for failing audits and auto-suspensions? Is it 3 in a row or 3 in a month or some combination or a complete secret? :)
 
@Scratte How would I know? xD
 
@AdrianMole lol! You've been testing it, I hear ;)
 
... but, IIRC, I think it's three in a given period (when you have a 'clean sheet') but, thereafter, I think any two in a given period will trigger the ban.
... and I'm not sure what the 'reset' time is.
 
Makes sense. I'll try to pass the next ones. I quite like the audits to be honest. They're so easy.
 
Passed audits count for nothing, IME.
 
9:29 PM
I expect it to be 30 days, as the reset for suspension duration is 30 days.
@AdrianMole They count towards the shiny badge.
 
Yeah, I suppose. I've done 5 Late Answer reviews today ... three were audits. (I skipped a lot.)
 
@AdrianMole I borrow from another user script and have one running that will tell me not to skip on audits :D
 
@Scratte AFAIK, there is no reset period for mod-made suspensions. If you ever get to, say, a 256-day furlough, then you're likely to get another long one on your next offence.
 
@AdrianMole I do not think you are right about that. I remember Samuel saying that after 30 days the user script also resets the duration.
I've gotten two 4 days ones. Though the second didn't last 4 days.
 
@Scratte That's assuming the moderator involved uses that userscript. Some mods are like elephants (in terms of their memory, at least).
Incidentally, I see you are approaching the point where you'll be invited to review Suggested Edits. You'll love the audits in that queue: they're aed just special fortnight returns to a great fun. But quite a shock, the first time you come across one.
 
9:38 PM
But.. there's nothing holding a moderator back from just starting with 356 days either, is there? And work the duration in reverse :D
 
@Scratte For a really egregious, terrible, harmful audit, I suppose not.
 
@AdrianMole I will not be reviewing that particular queue, I'm afraid. I strongly suspect it would require editing.
 
There's a "Skip" button.
 
What's the point of going to the queue and only using Skip? Unless you mean to say I should Skip everything except audits :D
 
No - there are some edits that you can "Approve" without further ado, and some that you can just "Reject". The options to "Improve Edit" or "Reject and Edit" are just options.
 
9:44 PM
I suppose I would be one of very few users that would be reviewing that queue without ever doing a single edit. But.. why though :)
 
Even without any editing, you would be making a valued contribution to curation! First, because the Edits queue is frequently at its limit; second, because you would be (hopefully) rejecting spam and vandalism; third: some edits, even by very low-rep users are good.
... and, fourth, you could help prevent other robo-reviewers allowing bad edits to sail through the review.
 
I'm more interesting in allowing the survival of how-to Questions than enabling edits.
 
It's all up to you, of course. But, IMHO, if you really care about site curation, you would contribute wherever you can, and wherever you are most needed. If that means 'putting aside' past disagreements with the system, then do so!
For example, if I had 'taken the huff' when I was given my previous suspensions, then Sam would have far more reviews to slog through (he's recently taken on First Posts - a queue to which I have contributed nearly 7,000 reviews).
 
I'm not sure I agree with you. Applying workarounds to make things work despite the system, is the same as saying it's fine.
 
And even by Sam's standards, 7,000 reviews is a good 2-3 days' work.
 
9:53 PM
I do not think mistakes are not made.. I'm not comfortable with it.
 
It's a "fact-of-life" that there are faults in the S.O. system design, and also that mistakes are made. But, on the whole, I still believe it is essentially a good site, and that the review system is basically reasonable. You are allowed to not share my opinions, of course.
 
I know that I cannot pick "Looks OK" on a post that complies with the guideline of the help center and review again the next day. However I can flag every post without reading them and never get suspended. That is pushing reviewers to close everything.
 
Well, for what it's worth, I haven't done a Triage review in over a month (maybe one or two, just for scientific reasons). It's a broken queue, according to many. And "Looks OK" should never really apply (except perhaps for audits) ... or how else did the post get into the Triage review?
 
Some system metrics that are not right all the time. If that's the argument, then just close every new post. No reason to have reviewers on it at all.
 
And anyway, by the time I've done with First Posts, a little bit of Close Votes and a few 'organic' or SOCVR-induced CVs, I have no juice left to use in Triage.
 
10:05 PM
I rarely spend more than 20 flags a day anymore.
I spend more time checking votes and other's responses and evaluating risk on every post I review than I actually review the post on it's own merit.
 
I cannot vote to close the same question since my dupe-hammer vote has been reversed.
 
11:03 PM
What's the markup again to get the post links rendered nicely here?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ It's ok as it is. If you want to use markdown then the link can be done using [Text](URL)
 
Ah, that I know. I thought there was a short syntax like e.g. [link] and it's expanded automatically to Question-Title - Author.
 
No, this is done by the CV generator userscript.
 
@Dharman Ah, I forgot about that. Ty man!
@Adrian I am tempted to CV this for a typo: stackoverflow.com/questions/63876363/…
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I partly agree - but what about the second part of the question?
... which is why I didn't attempt an answer.
 
11:19 PM
Especially the 2nd part. The OP did it successfully for the setter, and did loos all that knowledge when it comes to the getter?
I'll go for it.
 
So, why does the IsResizable function always return 0 - it's not clear to me.
 
@AdrianMole Because the address stored in the pointer never matches this bit (or at least rarely)?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ OP is using the & operator to see if that bit is set in the style returned by the (correct) call to GetWindowLongPtr.
... but, once the 'typo' problem is resolved, who know what could happen? So I'll not prolong this debate.
 
@AdrianMole Is it stored directly in the pointer value itself as well? I didn't knew that.
 
See OP's latest comment!
There isn't really a pointer involved. The Ptr addition to the SetWindowLong was to make things 64-bit compatible, IIRC.
 
11:31 PM
@AdrianMole That would explain a lot.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Some values returned are pointer types, but GWL_STYLE isn't one of them.
 
@AdrianMole I retracted the CV. Seems to be a useful and legit question.
 
11:47 PM
@AdrianMole @πάνταῥεῖ I don't know anything about the winapi, but why isn't OP using Get/SetWindowLongPtrA everywhere?
 
@Braiam Why is the sky blue?
... that is, the OP should be using that everywhere.
 
@AdrianMole That's at least well answerable ;)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Everyone knows that: Nitrogen is blue.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Depends how deep you want to go, it's neutonian physics enough? Or do you want to go all the way to quantum physics?
 
@AdrianMole Nope, but yes XD
@Braiam A glass of milk with water + a lightbulb will suffice :P
 
11:52 PM
Well, the word "azide" (as in the N3- ion) derives from "azure" - which itself derives from "sky" and is also used to mean "blue". But, actually, it's the oxygen in the sky that makes it blue. (PS: Now I'm being silly.)
 
@AdrianMole I thought you meant the bottle color codes :-/
 
That's N<sub>3</sub><sup>-</sup>, BTW.
 
(searched the one I remember and found like 3 :D)
 
Bedtime in Babylon! Night, folks!
 
N8, same for me. cya
 
11:57 PM
I achieved a rank of a gold flagger.
 
@Dharman what is that?
 
Samuel has a ranking for flaggers. There are ranks depending on your helpful/declined ratio
 

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