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02:04
TIL that trying to post a comment on a bad question in the close vote review queue pops up "This is an audit"
 
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04:42
Morning!!
Is it "wrong" to both VTC as a dupe and upvote if I think it's a high-quality dupe? (Not asking about any particular post, just asking in general).
04:58
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica The stock reasons for upvoting are "this question shows research effort; it is useful and clear". If you feel that fits, then go for it. It's quite possible for someone to have spent a reasonable amount of time trying to find a solution, yet still post a duplicate question. After all, that's why we use duplicates as signposts, so people can use the differently worded duplicates to find the answers on the dup-target(s).
OTOH, there are, of course, times when the duplicate was quite obvious and any trivial amount of searching would have found it (e.g. put the title into Google and the top result is the duplicate).
 
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06:02
Should this java answer be flagged?
06:14
Yes. Generally I used this canned message provided by Mod Bhargav.
This answer duplicates the same content as already provided by this other answer <-link here->, which was posted many years ago
@Shree In the flag message? I usually provide my own message on the post, to express my personal feeling every single case :)
Yep. Custom flag. Feel free to share your thought with MOD when custom flag . I have US for that :) .
Ok thanks :) I was somewhat confused it you means the canned message should go on the post :)
..I'm already having a "fight" with a low quality answer, and it's not even 9am :(
 
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08:01
Could a 10ker check this deleted question out? I think there's a bug, want to be absolutely sure it's not just on my end. Does clicking "show 10 more comments" not show the additional comments? stackoverflow.com/q/61006376
@CertainPerformance it shows them for me
Screen shots: https://i.sstatic.net/40eDM.jpg
https://i.sstatic.net/Rpd0k.jpg
@tripleee Thanks. I bet it's because I'm following the question, the error is around updateFollowUI
Works fine on other non-deleted questions with long comment chains, so the deletion status is probably an issue
followed and deleted and expandable comment chain
@DavidBuck May I ask, why did you put a comment on this post?
@Scratte See the "From Review" link - it was added automatically when he chose a reason to delete
@CertainPerformance Oh. So it's not possible to pick a choice without leaving the comment?
08:12
@Scratte What @CertainPerformance said. Even if there are other comments along the same lines, I ususally pick a reason unless there's already a 'From Review' link that I agree with.
yeah it's annoying, it's not unusual for there to be multiple identical or very similar comments from review
@Scratte That's right, choose "No comment needed", else a comment will be added (or, you will upvote a prior comment with the same text)
It's all transient anyway, as that NAA was bound to disappear shortly.
I was thinking about the multiple almost identical comment trail. I usually upvote if there's an existing comment. I would assume the poster feeling a bit "attacked" by it.
indeed, if Stack wants us to not be "piling on" they should do something about this ... I would assume there are already multiple meta posts, though I don't recall seeing one
08:14
@DavidBuck The poster can still see their own post even when it's deleted. With all the comments on it.
I keep partly canned comments in a file and try to make them relevant to a particular post. But I probably have OCD, soo.. :)
I do take your point, but there's value to the 'from review' part. If I come across an NAA, I can click 'From Review' and add my recommendation to delete.
@DavidBuck I did not mean to single you out btw. I see it a lot. It's just that I knew you were here in chat, so I just wanted to know how it comes about.
LQP provides you with a few canned answers for "me too", "thanks", "should have been a comment", "should be your own question", tailored for whether the post is OP or not, and whether they have the rep to comment or not
08:22
I've almost stopped telling people to post their own Question instead after seeing verbatim copies of their Answer in new Question ripe to be closed asap.
08:33
^ looks like spam
09:23
\o
09:59
If a question is closed as suitable for Super User, does it get migrated automatically?
@halfer AFAIK not. Only questions closed through "OT: Belongs on another site" get automatically moved
@Adriaan Thanks. I will notify a question author to manually repost
 
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12:30
Looking at meta, suggested edits that are in the review queue when a question is closed have obviously been discussed, but I didn't find this scenario: For this suggested edit, it's not a bad edit, but the question has been closed before approval. Approving the edit will, presumably, cause it to go into the reopen queue for no reason, but if it should be rejected, why doesn't that happen automatically?
 
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14:14
I'm not sure about this tag-wiki edit. Parts of it get a few exact hits on Google but it seems to be from some sort of scientific article, because I can't find an exact copy. Advice?
@S.S.Anne copied from here (page 4 under OPTIMATHSAT). I voted top reject
@DavidBuck I'm not sure what you're asking here. Are you asking why the suggested edit isn't automatically rejected? why the question isn't automatically in the reopen queue when the suggested edit is rejected? or something else?
@Makyen It was really, what do do with a good suggested edit, when the question has just been closed. Approving it puts the question in the reopen queue which causes more review effort, but there's no particular reason to reject the edit if it's valid.
@DavidBuck If the edit is active at the time I vote to close, I usually use a custom reject reason and explicitly state that it's because it will put the question in the reopen queue without making in on-topic. After voting to close, I'll make a similar edit, because if I voted to close, my edit won't put it in the reopen queue. If my rejection of the edit isn't the last review, then I force the edit. I discuss this in more depth in this answer,
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which describes a more detailed decision tree.
Note that I have been known to raise a custom flag, make the edit, then retract the custom flag, because edits by people who have flagged the post also don't put the question in the reopen queue. However, this isn't something I've done on a regular basis. I'm also not sure that a retracted flag counts in this case, and the task to move things into/out of the reopen queue isn't instantaneous (runs at about X:15 and X:45).
@Makyen Interesting, thanks. That makes it a lot clearer.
15:38
@Adriaan I think it is spam
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16:12
FYI
in SOBotics, 24 mins ago, by Undo
I'm getting out of the hosting business, and this is the last thing - if ya'll still use Sentinel, I'm handing it off to whoever ya'll think will do a good job. Details below...
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16:55
I wonder why this (10k+) was marked as spam or rude or abusive. It was only off-topic.
@S.S.Anne If there is a pending red flag on a post, and that post gets deleted, that flag is automatically marked helpful and the post gets censored.
Not sure why anyone red flagged it though
Maybe I'm being overly suspicious, but does this edit look odd to anyone else? (Editor has same username as OP).
@AdrianMole Both live in Minas Gerais...
@AdrianMole Sometimes a user will lose access to their original account and then come back and edit or answer with their new one. It could be sock poppet abuse, but given how blatant it is, I'm inclined to think it's the former
They need a CM to merge the accounts
@Machavity Good point! I also agree it's a bit too blatant to be real sock-puppet abuse.
... but do they deserve a +2 for the edit? :)
Strange. The 1 rep account is 2 years older than the 120 rep account. Both are from Brazil. I'm not seeing anything really concerning here. Also, if it is a sock, I'm not sure whe the 120 rep account didn't just unilaterally accept the suggested edit.
Can always mod flag it. They have the tools to know for sure
I put a comment (with the link you gave) into the post. I don't think it really warrants moderator action (yet).
... But it is strange, @NathanOliver.
Also, it's likely a very common name in Brazil.
18:37
@TylerH OP removed the POB language
@Machavity does this meet your criteria for a license-related question? stackoverflow.com/questions/61018421/…
@NathanOliver Hypothetically they created an account years back, just for fun, but never really used it. Back then they were not very security aware and they put their password on a post-it note inside their notebook at work. A few years later they decided they wanted to be a little active on the site, but they were at home on a saturday afternoon, so they created a new account instead of going all the way to work. Then while logged into the new account today
..they noticed something really weird, like Google defaulting to Hindi, and for security reasons they removed all history on their browser and changed their password. Then they took a walk. Two hours later they tried to log in again, but now they can't anymore, as they can't remember the new password. But they kept the notebook they once used in the office, so they logged into the old account instead.
@TylerH Yes. It's asking if the containers need licenses. That's off-topic
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18:59
@Dharman What exactly is wrong with the question?
@Chipster Too broad.
I think this nonsense is an answer. Should I do something about this? There is no way I can edit it into shape. stackoverflow.com/a/60944749/1839439
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@Dharman Seems like a nonsense question too.
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But for real, down-vote it, comment, and maybe write a better answer yourself is all you can do, I think.
@Chipster I don't think this question is good enough to be answered, but compare to this answer the question is a lot better.
@Dharman ?
Stay healthy!
There are seasonal greetings. Every time I remove one a new one starts popping up.
It's not an uncommon pairing of the two words, but your search criteria don't include the exclamation mark...
Still not as bad as stay frosty
19:28
For example, the first three items (the only three I've looked at) don't use the phrase as a greeting at all
OK, #2 does, but #1 and #3 do not
The order is random.
One can use that time to clean up some posts on Stack Overflow
19:43
@Dharman problem solved
Nice one. I was going to after I am done going through NAAs
@SuperStormer Which question is a dupe of this one? Also the correct tag is [tag:cv-pls]
@SuperStormer you've just linked to the same question twice
also, the question you've linked to is locked and cannot be voted on
20:22
Going from Ultra Dark to chat is harsh!
@Scratte How is your progress on flags? I think you have been in my room today. :D
@Dharman I did go to your room today :) I only flagged a few that I saw was obvious. I still find it tricky to see if an answer just needs a little improvement or if needs to go.
@Dharman I think I also opened up one of the answers and saw my own comment on it :D
I'm not sure what to make of "Post auto-flagged. @Dharman". If they are separate posts, or if they're linked to the message above them. Likewise with "Post would have been auto-flagged, but flagged by Natty instead."
@Scratte It's related to the message above.
Ok. Thanks :)
But I will usually leave a comment before I flag a post, so at least I leave a trail..
 
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22:10
@Scratte Highly recommend github.com/darkreader/darkreader. Note that it's a bit of a drain on (seemingly) machines without discrete GPUs.
22:55
Does it seem to y’all that fewer people have been using SO this week?
Specifically, I mean, fewer people posting new questions.
I've noticed less answerable questions, for sure. Maybe it's the lock-down, or maybe just a seasonal thing. This time last year, I wasn't all that active, so I can't really make a comparison.
23:28
+1 for fewer answerable questions. The "please write my entire feature/app for me" questions continue unabated.
@RyanM For sure! I'm actually very happy to (try to) answer questions from obvious beginners/students, so long as they've made a real effort themselves, include a decent code sample, and a good description of their problem. Though they don't really have that much "long-term value," if I feel I can help, then I will.
@AdrianMole When you say no "long-term value" you will never know how many outside viewers that may be helped by it in the future. The real problem with these Questions aren't the content. It's their title.
@Scratte Indeed - I've had this discussion somewhere on Meta (just comments from me). If I can, I will edit the title to make it more appropriate to the actual problem, rather than something about "Segmentation Fault" or "Code doesn't work."
"My code is working. The compiler is wrong. Help" :)

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