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2:13 AM
@Vega Why does that need to be deleted? It's closed, as it should be, but the answers that it has accumulated may be useful to others in the future.
 
2:23 AM
My understanding is that tool recommendations are off-topic content and have to leave SO. They cannot be improved in any ways. The answers are maybe useful but are still don't have their place on SO. Should we accept this kind of content, more we will have
 
@Vega OLDer positive Q/A pairs shouldn't be deleted, IMO. they are positive for some reason...
 
Rules are not the same for every one?
 
@Vega a new one coming in with the same context might be smoked
 
Exactly
 
but this is my opinion
leave the old, concentrate on the new
 
2:26 AM
When deleting, I believe we must exercise caution not to destroy value.
 
there is so much garbage out there leave old upvoted Q/A pairs happy ever after
 
Value? Leave the new ones a few day and they will be a lot "value", too
That Q was active recently. I voted to close some ald not active ones, too but will not bring here
 
You're arguing why new questions like that need to be closed. I agree, of course. We're not talking about whether tool-recommendation questions should be closed. We're talking about whether an old tool-recommendation question having potentially-useful answers should be deleted.
 
@Vega I wouldn't like to risk eliminating good OLD upvoted content just because not folloeing the rules
 
2:29 AM
I really meant the existence of tool recommendation questions on SO
 
Why is it a problem for closed questions to exist?
 
Then we will be confronted to new requests
 
you allways will
 
You seem to be making the argument that having questions visible on our site will allow people to use those questions as justification for asking new questions of a similar vein. Putting aside whether or not this is true, or whether it even matters (like Vickel says, people will probably ask them anyway), if these questions are closed, then they cannot be used as justification of their appropriateness for this site.
This is why it's important to close off-topic questions. But I don't see why that extends to deletion, unless there is no value to be lost whatsoever by deleting.
 
@CodyGray I'm actually not a great friend in closing old OLD questions s off-topic, some with 100's upvotes, but that was discussed many times
 
2:33 AM
I don't know; if they're off-topic, they're off-topic and should be closed, even if that is due to a change in our standards over time. The standards have changed for a reason, and old off-topic questions can, e.g., still attract new spam answers (which is part of the justification for not allowing tool-recommendation questions).
 
I will not break the rule and stop here :)
 
Although I do agree that there isn't necessarily a rush to go close these old questions, and that we would be better off focusing our attention on things that are actually causing a problem.
 
@CodyGray that's it
 
Isn't there a dedicated site for recommendations? softwarerecs.stackexchange.com. Why couldn't we have migration possibility?
 
Questions that are more than 60 days old can't be migrated.
 
2:44 AM
/bye all
 
2:56 AM
@Vega Is it OK with you for me to move this request?
 
@Makyen Only if you as RO consider that it was wrong
I still stand my ground that off-topic content has to go
 
@Vega While there are people, and probably other ROs, that will disagree, I'm generally of the opinion that we should not be aggressive in removing old content that's potentially useful to people. For this particular question, it looks like its usefulness is probably waning, but not gone. I'd be interested in hearing from a Subject Matter Expert as to the current relevance of the answers.
@Vega The question which a comment indicates it's a duplicate of appears to still be maintained by at least one answerer and has substantially more views and votes. It's not clear to me that it's close enough to actually have it marked as a duplicate, but they are strongly related.
To me deleting things is, to a large extent, where they fall with respect to the balance between the potential benefit of keeping them vs any harm they may be causing. It just doesn't look to me that the question is causing much, if any, harm by being closed, but existing.
 
 
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4:41 AM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Meh. Looks like help begging TBH. It's not advertising a job or service. Close and delete
 
5:28 AM
Those two don't seem to be spam - association/interest is clearly stated or implied.
 
@AdrianMole User has actively posting spam elsewhere for the same company superuser.com/a/1046962/450209
 
So should I add spam flags?
… they're all pretty old posts.
 
They are. There's a recent MS on the SU post tho. Went digging and found these two
3 posts plugging their site is spam in my book, disclosure or not
 
@Machavity Well, as they were found with your shovel, maybe you should add comments on the posts, for the benefit of other 'reviewers'?
(Two or three declined spam flags will do all sort of damage to my flag weight!)
 
Comments left
 
5:42 AM
And flags duly added! (But if I get flag-banned, I'm gonna melt your helmet.)
... your hard-hat seems to safe!
 
And on that note, I'm calling it a night
 
o/
 
 
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12:30 PM
chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=48255658#48255658 I never ever used so or sen app. wasn't even aware they did such a thing. as far as I were aware, Jeff (and I kind of hate the guy for too much censoring) was always "ahead of the curve" in this aspect by not investing anything into dedicated apps. because web apps were (and still are) the future. obviously! 😁
but thanks for the hint. I never considered Firefox before this. now i'll slowly add it to my radar and see if the scripts can be of any use for me. 😘
@AtishShakya chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=48255712#48255712 haha nice! don't you worry as well. abstention will continue to be my plan! 😆
off again!
(meaning, close the chat tab, this time around)
 
 
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3:39 PM
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5:27 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels You have commended the answer and now you want to delete it? What has changed?
Maybe ask mod for a merge?
 
@Dharman I did. It's a good answer to the specific question, but the duplicate is that and so much more as it answers the much more general and useful question about hashCode and equals.
 
Yeah, but we lost good content. My opinion is that sometimes we should accept the bad question if the answer is valuable.
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6:43 PM
Would this qualify as Needs more Details (Unclear)? OP says they don't want to share code.
 
@SecretAgentMan Off topic for "needs more detail."
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Thanks. I had originally flagged it as VLQ but that was unsuccessful.
 
Can a RO advise whether we're allowed to mention that the OP refused to include their code in a cv-pls request? Or should we just stick to "No MCVE"?
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica What difference would it make?
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica No a RO, but personally I would format that as No MCVE (OP refuses to include their code)
I often use brackets to clarify my reason for arriving at the official close reason request (of course anyone is still free to disagree with the close request or the reason).
 
6:50 PM
@Dharman Seems a little worse if the OP refused to do it
 
IMHO as long as it helps other make it clear why you want it to be closed and it is not the only reason then it should be fine. You are making a case for your request. Personally I don't think it would sway my opinion. No MCVE is no MCVE.
 
Request received on the main site for a reopen after a gold duplicate hammer; user seems to be responsive to making edits. Anyone familiar with CORS/AWS want to say if this is not a dup? stackoverflow.com/questions/59693881/…
 
7:05 PM
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/!!
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica no, let's leave out any qualification of the OP. It is really of none importance. If you really want to express yourself towards an OP, go find the sea-side and yell at it. It is a great stress relief ...
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@HovercraftFullOfEels if I have to grade that attempt at an emoji I would say that is an F. yw.
 
@rene LOL, :( makes me sad. I was trying to reply to SD that the bad link doesn't really look that bad
I give up
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels you can simply reply to it. That doesn't need a command.
 
@SmokeDetector: f
@s
 
7:23 PM
Happy Sunday everyone =} /o
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels It needs to be an actual reply (not an @ ping), or an sd f shortcut command. Please see the Privileged commands as reply section and the next few sections of the commands page for more information.
 
@tink It's only Saturday here, but happy Sunday anyway :-)
 
7:42 PM
@Makyen Thank you. I will persevere
 
np. Good luck :-)
 
7:59 PM
@halfer heh. Thanks
@halfer - was my comment here stackoverflow.com/q/59697685 unnecessarily snarky?
@DavidW can you explain how this answer makes it a typo or can't be reproduced?
 
I guess my view is "it's a strange bug" suggests "can't be reproduced"
Or at very least is unlikely to get a useful reproduction
 
Hmmmm
 
Obviously if you disagree then ignore the request
 
Yah
I think it should be closed, just can't pinpoint the reason. Lacks clarity?
 
8:12 PM
I am not sure what OP meant, but I would not say they meant they can't reproduce
Anyways, I flagged and BR removed
He has been camping the queue
 
Camping the queue?
 
Possibly no MVCE. The old text closure text for "typo" said something like "unlikely to be useful to future users" and I think I thought of that
 
Yeah, flags are handled really quick
LQP is at 2 at the moment
There's literally nothing for me to review. I need to go flag some posts.
 
heh
 
@tink No, I think that one was fine :-)
 
8:27 PM
Heh. Ta.
 
8:39 PM
@Dharman One of those answers references an onlick event... they have a very interesting browser set-up
 
9:13 PM
@halfer It took me 30 minutes to get the lick
facepalm
If everything else has failed, have you tried licking the screen?
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11:02 PM
Seen on the main site: This cod is working good :-)
Seems a bit fishy to me
 
@tink The selected dup-target here appears particularly poor. I'd be willing to vote to close this as "unclear" or too broad, as it's basically asking us to speculate as to what's happening in the code they haven't shown. Admittedly, it's near-certainly just typical issues with parallel processing. However, the selected duplicate doesn't really explain anything. The answer which does explain is a significantly different issue (why output is grouped by process and not interleaved).
My problem is that any VtC will result in having it closed with that dup-target, which is bad, IMO.
 
11:43 PM
Should this question be closed? If so, what's the right close reason - no MRE? Opinion-based? Too broad?
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Opinion-based or off-topic. The code works
 

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