@Chipster That question kind of answers itself. The anti-pattern is having endless meetings to discuss to death things that are of no concern to people who have nothing to do with those things. "Anti" means opposite, so in this case, the correct pattern is not doing that. In other words, having short meetings, and only involving the people who are actually involved.
@Makyen I skimmed your reply to me earlier in Charcoal HQ about this earlier, but I still wasn't fully clear on how this works. This SD report once again seems to be solely motivated by a pattern-match for docs.microsoft.com, and I really don't understand why that's a pattern that SD is looking for.
You said that "#whitelisted" isn't being taken into account, which...I don't really understand.
(I meant to reply to you in Charcoal HQ about this when I went through my inbox notifications, but... that number is up to 200+ and counting, so I don't know when I'm going to sit down and do that. Man, I hate notifications. What I hate even more is that when I try and look at them, they all get cleared.)
@CodyGray np with replying in here. The #whitelisted tag was recently introduced on metasmoke. It's been basically implemented in SmokeDetector, but it's not a general check on all detected URLs. So far, it's only applied on a limited number of detections. The detection "Pattern-matching website in answer" is not one on which it is implemented, yet.
@Makyen Okay, so it's like a future feature. To be implemented. I've got a huge list of such things myself on my wall at work. What I don't understand is why SD is catching that URL pattern in the first place. Wouldn't it make more sense just to remove the pattern from the match candidate list? Why would a link to official documentation ever be something that we'd want to catch?
@CodyGray The portion of the overall regex which is catching these, isn't catching the domain. It's catching the URL path. That portion of the regex doesn't even look at the URL's domain, just the path.
For answers, that percentage is 89.6% TP. On questions, it's 76.6%. So, overall the regex does a good job of identifying spam. The problem with it is that it does identify some URLs that humans are able to see are cleary not spam. A large part of that will go away once the domain exclusions (i.e. #whitelisted) have been implemented for it.
@CodyGray For domain and path, probably an example is easiest. Example: https://the-domain.com/this/is/the/URL/path. So, in that example, the domain is the-domain.com, while the path is /this/is/the/URL/path.
@CodyGray No. It cares nothing about the domain, just the path. It looks like it cares about "microsoft", because there's an optional group in there, (yahoo|gmail|hotmail|outlook|office|microsoft)?, which isn't matched in these cases. [Frankly, I'm not seeing the use of having that optional group in there, as it's fully redundant to the existing \S*?; it doesn't extend or limit the regex.]
The regex that's matching is equivalent to this one. Basically, all that regex cares about is that within a URL one of the words (account|tech|customer|support|service|phone|help) is followed by one of words (service|care|help|recovery|support|phone|number) with no more than 10 characters between the two detected words.
@CodyGray Yeah, unfortunately, that regex is significantly more complex than it needs to be, in a way that's quite confusing and misleading as to what it's really doing. The regex can be simplified a bit more to this. What it's really looking for is here. The rest of the regex just makes sure the detection is inside a URL.
I'm curious what percentage of the correct matches are actually from "support" in a URL. That doesn't strike me as being an obvious red-flag. But maybe it is in practice.
@Chipster Perhaps context helps. I'm complaining because I spent almost 3 hours in a meeting today going over all of the projects that the company is involved with. It's a small company, but the projects are numerous (about 5x the number of engineers). Even just giving an "overview" of the status of each project takes far too long and is not productive. Worse, this is fun that repeats itself each week.
When you have a discussion platform that has been around for 8+ years, you inevitably end up with a lot of repeats. The same topics are perennially popular.
@VadimKotov Not in my experience. I rarely have any trouble telling what is or isn't spam, regardless of what language it is in. This one is an especially clear-cut case. It's referencing a popular movie, links to a site named "tubeplus", and the formatting is highly suspicious. With a few more seconds of investigation, I spot several homonyms with English words, including "Synopse" == "Synopsis", and then there are the English keywords like "1080p" and actor names.
Anyway, it might not matter if everyone had unlimited close votes, but there's no point in wasting close votes on spam questions. Besides, spam flags are generally a faster way of dispatching these posts than posting cv-pls requests in here.
for what it's worth this particular operation has been making the rounds over the last couple of days, there is a significant number of new pirated video streaming domains, all spammed with a loud wall of text like that, some in languages other than English
@NileshRathod established user, 9gag is a well known site; I'd say no. Also: bit of an abuse of formatting and amount of questions marks in that comment IMO
Hi, I have a quick question have you ever encounter an user using triple backtick to escape code related thing in sentence? I have never found one before and now an asker and answerer are both using it. Do we report such thing? As writing style really cole maight be the same person?
@HovercraftFullOfEels I call upon you once more for this. Reopener did not want to engage I guess. I think this answers the question, even though it doesn't address WeakReference.
@SotiriosDelimanolis I took a look and agree that that was incorrectly reopened. I don't have a java gold badge but you have at least one CV on it now.
compare the tags here on chat and the tags on main. the ones on main appear flat; I feel like earlier this morning (and beyond) they were not as flat... I could be misremembering but it seemed like a sudden change.
@TylerH Tags on main also used to have a darker border-right and border-bottom, which gave them more of a 3D feel, but that disappeared in mid-January 2015.
@Kyll not too bad, mate. Actually because of the strike, I have holidays. I was supposed to start on a new mission but the strikes are blocking everything. I had to leave my car at République this afternoon as the police is blocking the whole place. For me, I'm now a full time python dev \o/
@Das_Geek yeh I just saw it after linking to it. I mostly read the PDFs. Guess you can make good software and also have questionnable taste in... many other things.
@AndyK Hey that's great =D What kind of systems do you work on?
@Kyll well ... you know start up is the craze all over France... so they are building apps that ... are poorly designed... my job is to help them to save the project...
the second to last was a platform that was supposed to link experts on real estate with customers who need advices. It was dubbed internally Cash Tinder or wealthy dudes who want to be more wealthy
@Kyll that's ok. I was so tired a few weeks ago that my kinesiherapist said that if I stayed longer, I would have been physically blocked for at least a few weeks or more ...
In the US, a strike means nobody works... or else. In France that seems to mean that eating less bread and cheese with their wine. And burning a car or two for good measure
@Machavity and honestly, the situation is dire. Maybe less dire than in the US, but it is dire. i've never seen so many homeless people than in the recent years
^ Full disclosure on my last request: after back and forth trying to get OP to explain actual problem. I am stepping back to avoid accusations or targeting
@AndyK Please include a reason in each request. The basic format is [tag:cv-pls] close reason https://stackoverflow.com/q/12345. What should be included in request reason is discussed in What Should Request Reasons Contain?.
@AndyK It is literally about IDE, so in my opinion it is code/programming related. I am not convinced it should be on super user. However, when posting request here it is good to let us know what reason you think it should be.
@AndyK I'd argue this one falls under software tools commonly used by programmers. OTOH, it could be "no MCVE", as it doesn't really provide enough information to duplicate the problem.
@Makyen Same. Was just looking in here to see if anyone else reported that.
I wonder if the script that awards these was backlogged for some reason, and it's just finally getting around to running? It's curious because most of the answers I was awarded the badge to are my own, but one or two are not and...I can't remember ever having shared links to those.
Oh, I see. I did not actually have dupe-votes in for the questions I posted above. I did in the past, and my Possible Duplicate comment was still there, so I thought those still counted. Re-flagged as dupes.
@Das_Geek No worries. I don't mind too much, just don't expect a ping to lead to a response. My inbox gets far too many items per day, and I have far too little discipline to go through and read them all, so they just tend to build up until such time as I inadvertently click the inbox icon, which clears everything.
I tend to not even bother to ping people. I just reply. It takes conscious effort for me to click that "reply" button.