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12:00 AM
 
I take that back. Sorry
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, erroneous request tag
 
No problem.
Now that I actually started looking into these questions with more scrutiny, there is way too much things to flag. Need to grind more flags :D
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels If I'm around, I usually ask people to repost closevote please requests which don't use an actual . I do that because when that tag is not used the request will not be displayed by the URRS when reviewing cv-pls requests, due to the URRS relying on SE chat search, which is quite limited. Basically, when a request doesn't have the tag, the request will get much less attention and is unlikely to be completed unless it's completed prior to scrolling off the chat page.
 
@Makyen: got it, thanks
 
12:10 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels np. I know it's inconvenient all around, but it's the best solution I've got to messages that don't get edited within the 2 minute edit limit. I'm open to other solutions, but the only other way I see of resolving it would be to ask a moderator to edit, which feels like not a good idea. Ideally, I'll get around to moving the URRS review off of using the SE chat search, so the URRS can show non-conforming requests in review.
 
12:59 AM
Do you find this comment rude or condescending?
 
@Matthew It appears the comment has been deleted, so it's likely it was.
 
@KenWhite @Makyen Hm, I thought we are not suppose to flag old posts.
 
Rob
@Machavity Any red flag. Other flags we can't
 
@Rob What do you mean with red flags?
 
Rob
Spam/abusive flags
 
1:12 AM
Hm, that one is not abusive but I don't know if its a spam.
Its definitely off-topic, don't know if that's enough for a red flag.
 
Rob
I wasn't discussing any particular flag, just responding to something Machavity wrote some time ago
 
@Matthew We are not supposed to post cv-pls requests for posts that have not been active in some time. That question, while it was asked in 2010, was active today. A post being active means that it will be displayed at the top of the active pages. As a result, it will tend to get more people looking at it. When that is the case, it's permitted to post a cv-pls about it.
 
Rob
You can click the arrow next to my message to see which message I was responding to
 
@Rob Oh sorry about that.
 
Rob
No problem :)
 
1:16 AM
@Makyen I understand, still don't know if I should flag it.
 
@Matthew If you feel something should be closed, then you should flag it. Our restrictions are only for posting requests in this room (most restrictions are on cv-pls requests). Our restrictions are not intended to apply to what you personally choose to close-vote/-flag in general.
 
@Makyen Yea, I was just asking for opinions. Need to practice figuring out what is right and what is wrong to flag as well as what is worthy of flagging.
 
@Matthew The question had activity today, so it is currently active. It's OK to cv-pls any post with activity.
 
@StephenKennedy That was actually written by Zoe. But shh
 
1:44 AM
@StephenKennedy I'll wait for the movie, so I can complain that it's not like the book
 
 
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6:25 AM
anyone can find any difference between and ? They seem to refer both to capturing groups in regex
 
6:41 AM
Morning all
 
Morning o/
 
\o
 
o/
 
7:04 AM
@double-beep should be proposed as a synonym, but you need 5 rep in the destination tag to propose a synonym
which only 19 people in the world have
 
@MichaelDodd clarified by OP; now answerable by pointing to an API node.
as demonstrated by the answerer
There's a good chance it will get an algorithmic question, too
Or would have, if it stayed open
 
@Shree who upvotes this crap?
 
I don't know. :D
 
7:19 AM
@tripleee did... did you just say the u-word?
 
@JohnDvorak whoops, I mean *pvotes
 
@tripleee there's a meta about it
 
Given today's anniversary, it's taking most of my self-restraint not to do a Ciro Santilli on my profile...
Even though it wouldn't be anything more than a System Of A Down quote
 
7:59 AM
@double-beep Good catch, I thought the website was the same as in the other answer, but there's a missing hyphen in the spam answer
 
yeah
 
@shree might want to update your feedback for this one
 
Can I get a second opinion (by a >20K user) on ? Want to do a quick burninate since it's an ambiguous tag, recently created with an excerpt about an R lib but already misused for foreign keys by 3 out of 4 questions.
 
@ErikA cleanup, not burnination
the tag is actually useful, there are a bunch more questions which can be tagged with it
 
8:14 AM
@double-beep Eh... It's ambiguous as ****. Foreign languages, foreign keys, that R lib. If we want a tag for that R lib, someone's gotta pick a better name imo
 
r-foreign?
 
Cleanup with 75% of the questions using the tag wrong isn't really a sensible exercise imo
 
@MichaelDodd Thanks.
 
@ekad will Roomba in 5 days
 
8:19 AM
@double-beep it was closed as duplicate, so it won't Roomba, or does Roomba delete duplicates now?
 
@ekad I think downvoted dupes with no answer still get deleted
 
anyway, deleted now
@tripleee also SF
 
@ekad the duplicate exemption is only for recent questions stackoverflow.com/help/roomba
 
@ekad Roomba has always deleted duplicates. There are multiple Roomba tasks. The only one that doesn't delete duplicates is the one that deletes closed questions 9 days after closure. The task that deletes questions which are >30 days old and the task for questions >365 days old both delete duplicate questions, but not if there is an answer or otherwise don't meet the other criteria.
ninja'd
 
@Lino @tripleee @Makyen ok I see it now, thanks for the info.
 
8:51 AM
Morning o/
 
I'm only 27 reviews away from being 7/7 on steward badges
 
@NickA nice work; wish the review audit system wasn't that crappy
 
8:59 AM
@double-beep I'm pretty sure most of my late answers reviews are audits, the NATO guys get all the real ones too fast
 
@NickA yeah, there's a bot in SOBotics which detects all NATO and selects potential NAAs. I have some thousands flags on NATO :)
 
@double-beep brandishes fist grrr, keeping me from my steward badge
 
you too can participate in the FGITW game in SOBotics
 
@NickA of course, sometimes, I put a comment for potential late answer reviewers: I am not sure if this is really NAA/VLQ because... blah, blah, blah to confuse them more. Also, I edit them to exclude them from the late answers queue, hoping reviewers will get a steward badge xD
 
9:41 AM
@sideshowbarker Pending edit
 
11:00 AM
@MichaelDodd Ewwwww, you said MRE in that review comment
 
How do we close questions asking "is this code correct"? Ref: stackoverflow.com/q/30005536/5211833 in this case the code is correct, in case that matters.
 
Unclear I think is most common
 
@NickA but it's not unclear what they ask, it's a very simple problem and the answer to whether their code is correct is a simple "yes". Not unclear or too broad IMO
 
Arguably the same could be said about "How does x work" questions, but they are generally closed as unclear
 
I was doubting between debugging and No Repro, I think I'll go No MCVE, because they sort of want us to debug in case it is incorrect. The code just happens to be correct and hence no debugging is needed
 
11:13 AM
@Adriaan See this: "You have two completely different questions here. You have one question asking .... You then have a completely different question asking for the solution you've provided to be evaluated." - "The second question is on topic on CR." You may disagree
Doesn't really back me up on "unclear", just on it should be closed lol
 
11:26 AM
@NickA Mark's comment on the answer there sums it up nicely for me: if you don't know whether a program works there is no problem to verify. Basically OP should've pressed 'start' on their program, and then, if it didn't work, have expanded on that.
 
Yes, the way I see it is if the didn't press start and see if it's working, why are they asking anything, if you don't know why someones asking something is that not unclear? - same result though, should be closed :)
 
@NickA Sorry, I'll say Reprex next time
 
Would you say this falls under typo?
 
12:15 PM
@NickA yeah, I would
 
1:09 PM
I can't believe people are still taking photos of their screens to show us their code. It's mind baffling...
 
I'm going to send a fax to complain
 
Okay, ping me on my pager when you're done.
 
@StephenKennedy @Matthew I have a problem. Foo doesn't do what bar tells it. This is my code. Can u pls help me urgntly? Thanks in advanced, I hope I provided a reprex, I am new to stackoverflow
 
@double-beep You trying to Rick-Roll me? I am too old for this kind of stuff...
 
1:18 PM
@double-beep Almost perfect, you just needed to say "this is my codes" and "I hope I provided a regex"
 
@NickA why? I said teh codez is above. Can u help me? I already provided a regex! also, if possible, gimme another codez. thansk in advice
 
@double-beep lol, it really was a Rick-Rolling attempt... I am laughing so hard right now :D
 
1:44 PM
@RobertColumbia Well, that's definitely going to get a positive response...
 
yeah that's a pretty crazy q
hats off for having the cahonas to ask it though xD
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Don't think he knew what he was getting into though.
 
I've modflagged it as a self-confessed voting fraud attempt. Perhaps overkill but it's rare you get something this blatent
 
Is this POB or just Too Broad?
 
@Lino TB. " I want to see the piece of code where Dog is extending the Object class." = GMTC
 
1:48 PM
I'm no Java expert, but I'd say too broad
 
Too broad it is
 
@MichaelDodd in b4 they get uv
 
@RobertColumbia I am amazed and utterly shocked at the same time
 
@MichaelDodd Borderline R/A isn't it? Or, at least, VLQ.
 
@StephenKennedy Nah, I've modflagged it. Not worth putting it through the queues, especially if it's self-confessed vote fraud
albeit an attempt that backfired spectacularly
 
1:52 PM
@StephenKennedy thought about that too but it's really on the edge, so i refrained from doing it
 
Tis gone
 
and nothing of value was lost :)
 
I would go as far to say that value was gained
 
@MichaelDodd They got 17 votes!
 
Does that mean their rep goes in minus?
 
1:55 PM
adjusts glasses Oh, they wanted UPvotes. Too bad.
 
@StephenKennedy upvotes = Math.abs(netVotes)
17 * 5 = 85 rep, but they have 1?? seems like SO is broken! Time to file a bug report
 
@Matthew No. Rep of 1 is the floor.
 
@StephenKennedy I considered flagging R/A, but figured that it was at least expressed in decent language and wasn't condescending (just horribly misguided), so I went with VLQ.
 
Clearly a victory for Remain!
 
@Matthew no, you can't have any less than 1 rep. Even people who have been suspended from the site still have 1 rep.
 
2:00 PM
Okay, does that person get a ban or something now? That was pretty egregious...
 
@Matthew I would think a hefty rate limitation for questions is in order. Official guidance ("What can I do when getting....") indicates that you don't get q-banned for one bad post, even if it is shockingly bad. The ban is designed to stop recidivists, that is, people who just can't or won't learn what is appropriate here.
 
@RobertColumbia Makes sense to me, was just curious.
 
Hm, can I link answers here as well?
 
@Matthew What do you want us to do with an answer? We can't close one
 
2:07 PM
@Matthew answers can't be closed, only deleted. Reporting NAAs/VLQs isn't allowed, you just need to flag them. What type of answer is this?
 
Came across this answer in the review queue and I swear I though the system is trying to test me again.
 
LQP review tends to clean those up rather fast
 
@ErikA Okay
 
@Matthew generally, mods clear these fastly so @NickA doesn't review more stuff in the late answers queue
 
@Matthew Maybe you would be interested in the SOBotics room - where that post was already caught :)
 
2:14 PM
Quick question, was I right to flag the above question and did I use a correct flag? Just asking for opinions.
 
@StephenKennedy every NATO is caught in this room actually. Answers with score >=4.0 are reported to SOBotics.
 
@StephenKennedy What can I do in that room?
 
@HermanTheGermanHesse Typically we recommend you give OP an opportunity to post an MCVE/MRE/Min-Reprex before you post a cv-pls in this room.
 
@Matthew uh, well, it sounds hard to choose which is the best. POB? requests for off-site resource? TB? Unclear? dunno.
 
@double-beep But it is definitely flaggable?
 
2:16 PM
@double-beep Meh. SOBotics has a community, and not-NATO stuff
 
@Matthew it doesn't mind whatever close reason you flag the question. It will eventually close.
 
@double-beep And in that case I get a helpful flag point, even though it was not the correct reason?
 
@Matthew You don't get points for flags, but yes, it would be marked helpful
 
@Matthew You can flag all the things, and give feedback to the bots
 
From the Help center: "You are awarded additional bonus flags when you flag correctly - one bonus flag for every ten net helpful flags (helpful flags minus declined flags)."
I am still unsure as to what is a helpful flag. It is not explained in the document.
 
2:21 PM
> A "helpful" flag is one that moderators or other trusted members of the community found informative or actionable.
 
Okay so it's just enough that it helped in some way.
 
yeah
 
2:33 PM
@double-beep I've managed to reach 16 today :D
 
@NickA puts SOBotics onto red alert
 
@NickA interesting. I am never going to vote anyone in mod elections. They are lurking, so you do more reviews :)
 
shakes fist at ninja M Dodd
 
@StephenKennedy looks around shiftily and scrambles up nearby building
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2:42 PM
@double-beep No no. You should endorse nobody before the election, and then claim to have voted for the winner.
 
@StephenKennedy oh, no! What shall I do now? I can't delete it! I can't flag for mod attention because mods will see it and say that I lied :( Do you have any idea?
 
@double-beep Run for mod yourself; win; delete the comment; resign.
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3:04 PM
o/
 
\o
 
@MichaelDodd doesn't seem so much rolling back attempts to help as he was making conflicting edits of his own
 
You rang?
 
and you rang me too?
 
I rang the banana phone not the daisy phone ;o
 
@NickA ROs get pinged with an invite to join the Graveyard room when a message of theirs is archived :/
and you'll note they didn't put that in the recruitment brochure!
 
@StephenKennedy That explains Why did you invite me to the SOCVR Request Graveyard room?. I'd been wondering why it had never happened to me, presumably because ROs are privileged in the graveyard?
 
3:41 PM
@NickA I think it happens to everyone on their first archival - maybe it's just slipped your memory?
 
Perhaps
 
4:07 PM
@StephenKennedy If you ignore them, they sit there for a long time (12 months?). That blocks any new requests. Then they time out and you get another
 
5:33 PM
@gunr2171 The question is a dupe so hammered and added to delete queue.
The they had quoted the targeted link and then provided their own interpretation they it stood a chance, but it is clear copy+paste in it current state
 
@Nkosi thanks
 
@gunr2171 Welcome to SOCVR! Please read the... wait, I remember you. That meeting finally ended?
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: ) yeah, been out for a while
ironically, the quarterly 3-day long planning event starts tomorrow.
 
ROFL
 
today however is an easy day, nothing to work on
 
5:45 PM
for a second there I thought he would provide the usual link
 
I'm probably going to have that domain expire in a month
 
5:59 PM
hmm... found this HNQ. POB? (best practice, etc.)
 
@double-beep Edit-worthy IMO, the answer seems to point out some objective pitfalls (optimizing for pearls and whatnot)
 
NAA? or can be edited out?
 
@gunr2171 so, what is the plan?
 
that's what we get to figure out starting tomorrow
but it's what all the dev teams are going to work on for the next 3 months
like, which features and such
 
Cool. So you can end up with the plan to play games next quarter?
 
6:05 PM
yes
 
awesome
How did last quarter work out?
 
yeah, Team 1 will build a new Message Broker, Team 2 will implement the Minecraft server.
 
Comparing the plan and the actual outcome
 
@gunr2171 noooo, not isgunrinameeting T_T
 
mostly fine. We usually achieve >=80% business output.
@TylerH sorry, I have to let the joke run its course
 
6:07 PM
@gunr2171 well, I did propose that once to my customer. Was government. They liked it.
 
RIP
 
F
 
H
 
speaking of minecraft, 1.14 has been a joke
terribly unreliable multiplayer performance
 
6:07 PM
I haven't played minecraft in at least 4 years. Maybe I should. I play a lot of factorio.
 
@TylerH Well, you could probably CNAME it to this site and it would be right more often than not
 
@gunr2171 how dare you do my thing >:(
 
how many hours you have in factorio?
 
@Machavity including the fine print. :P
 
How long is the grace period between "posted at the same time" and "this answer adds nothing new"?
2 minutes ok to be like "this answer already exists"?
 
6:10 PM
oh wow, only 202 hours. I figured it would be more.
 
@SterlingArcher 2 minutes is a pretty short time
I'd say at least 10 minutes
 
phrasing
 
@SterlingArcher well, sure. Can't we expect posters watch the q/a for a 15 minutes or so?
 
but certainly less than a day
 
15+ minutes
 
6:12 PM
That's pretty gentle
Burn em all I say
 
@SterlingArcher that's the goal of being good people
 
I am not good people
 
@SterlingArcher I commented on that y'day here ...
 
I am all that is future moderator
 
@SterlingArcher then again you're here in SOCVR where we're all good people
except rene, who is a good flower
 
6:13 PM
That ^
 
I have come to change this
 
Your change is futile
 
times when you wish mods would edit messages for the luls ^^
 
@SterlingArcher You're going to tell management off and then rage-quit SO every other month?
 
What? No.
In javascript, I'm trying to change this
what are you on about? ;D
 
6:17 PM
Wait, that was some other mod. never mind :P
 
Isn't this changing all the time?
 
@rene JS is a kinky language. You have to fix this with bind
 
Depends on context. In a lambda it is a fixed context unless explicitly binded
 
bind all the things
 
Line 57-71 in my code is function binding, so you're not wrong there buddy
 
6:19 PM
for once, once I'm not wrong
 
Even a broken clock is not wrong twice a day.
 
binding is so heavy in react lodash literally has _.bindAll
@Nkosi I want to find the broken clock that is only right once a day
 
24 hour clock
 
^
 
found the clock
 
6:21 PM
that was fast
 
6:39 PM
@Nkosi That depends on how broken it is. :-)
 
Think this one in particular requires a more immediate action.
 
@Matthew it is on its way to the exit
 
@rene Thank you very much sir!
 
yw
 
@rene Sniped by lurking mod
 
6:50 PM
@Matthew for future reference, we tend to flag spam instead of close vote it. For flag requests, we use [tag:flag-pls] instead.
A good sanity check is, if you're using [tag:cv-pls], then the reason you give (in this case, where you said 'VLQ / Spam') should be a close-worthy reason, e.g. "Too Broad", "Typo", "No MCVE/MRE", "Duplicate", etc.
 
@TylerH So would this tag be appropriate for spam then - ?
 
in the future, [tag:cv-pls] requests that give a non-close reason like VLQ may be binned
 
I apologize, I am new to this chat room. Didn't mean anything bad by it.
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@Matthew No, only use the [tag:] syntax for the primary tag the question is tagged with (aside from the *-pls of course)
For example, if something is spam, you'd say " Spam <link to question>"
 
6:53 PM
What is the spam tag for then if I should not tag spam questions wiht that?
 
although it may be better to report the spam to SmokeDetector in SOBotics rather than post it here
 
Okay, so should be used for spam.
I've seen that chat room but don't know how to use it yet.
 
I was taught way back when that it was , but I rarely use it nowadays (I just flag it and move on). Is there current official guidance?
 
@Matthew You can cause your text to display as a "tag" in chat by wrapping it in the [tag: ] syntax. How it works is clicking on that tag will then take you to SO Main with the list of questions tagged with that tag
 
@TylerH Yes I understand that, just need to know what tag to use for spam since is not allowed.
 
Since you're almost never going to intend to provide a link to questions that are tagged with (since there are no questions with that tag), it doesn't make much sense to use that tag markup.
 
@RobertColumbia Using either or just should be fine. Using just doesn't tell us what you think it should be flagged as.
 
@Matthew use the *-pls tag for the action you're requesting. If you want to post a question that should be closed, use . If you're requesting flags, or (where appropriate)
 
@TylerH but we tag cv-pls requests with , but very few closable questions actually get tagged with .
 
6:57 PM
@RobertColumbia the *-pls tag is the exception because it's used for user scripts to hook into
 
@TylerH ok ty
 
@Matthew I recommend reading this if you haven't already
 
@Matthew Good news is that particular spam has been seen before
 
Is there a *-pls tag to request that a question be flagged as VLQ?
 
@Machavity Nice!
 
6:58 PM
@RobertColumbia No. Those only take one flag to do it so we request you not do that unless it's a reflag
 
e.g. : hi i am new stack overflow how learn c want program what wrong with java code plz recommend framework
 
@TylerH I am re-reading that all the time when I am posting in this room
That's why I tagged it as look at that section again.
Other -pls requests follow the same format:
 
What? Our FAQ page is not consistent with itself? HOW DARE YOU?!?!
 
\o
 
@RobertColumbia The only time that requesting a VLQ or NAA flag is permitted is when you are unable to flag it yourself (e.g. you are out of flags, or you already flagged it like that and your flag has been disposed of (e.g. someone edited it out of the review queue)). The reason for this is that additional VLQ or NAA flags do almost nothing and don't help the post be processed faster.
 
7:01 PM
@Matthew It looks like I was a bit overzealous in saying don't use -- that appears to be the suggested format according to our FAQ; sorry about that.
 
@TylerH No problem :)
 
@Matthew Please use code format when providing examples which you don't actually intend for people to act upon.
 
@Makyen Ah yea, sorry about that.
 
Personally I never use that because the keyword spam (without tag syntax) is plenty due it always being used in combination with a *-pls tag
 
7:02 PM
@gunr2171 Hey, we had to run a room meeting without you. And type up our own notes. Nobody said anything about consistency
 
how did that go?
 
It was horrible. The meeting didn't even go over the allotted time!
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It went well. Makyen ran it. Did a superb job
 
sweet. I've trained you all well.
 
Thanks. It helped a lot that you were making the screenshot of the flags. I think that's a good addition to the meetings.
 
7:04 PM
I was on mumble but nobody listened, as usual
 
@rene well yeah, you have to speak up if you want us to hear you. Mumbling won't help!
 
plants have mouths?
 
Are these meetings behind closed doors, or can lonely foxes like myself feel welcomed to sit and listen?
 
@TylerH I thought it was because everything does is blurry
 
they happen 1-3 times a year, all public
@Matthew here are the past ones: socvr.org/room-info/room-meetings/info
 
7:08 PM
Initially, I found it quite distracting to be both keeping track of the conversation and running the meeting. But, with a bit of experience it got easier (as expected).
 
oh yeah, screenshotting the stars is a really good idea
 
should label that "paparazzi" mode
 
Yeah, when writing up last year's meeting, I really wished I had screenshots of the stars. Having them would have helped considerably.
 
7:44 PM
@Matthew unless that bounty expires or is removed by a mod there is nothing we can do there until then
 
@Nkosi Oh so bounty questions are protected from closing?
Looking at the answers the whole thread is quite heavy POB in my honest opinion.
 
yep. you could raise a custom mod flag to argue your case as to why it should be closed.
 
@Matthew i.stack.imgur.com/PlhhZ.png this is what we get when try to cast a CV
 
@double-beep Okay, good to know about this limitation. Will not solicit cv-pls request on open bounty questions.
 
@double-beep It's hard to understand that image without a poorly drawn red circle
:P
 
7:47 PM
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, has a bounty, so nothing we can do.
 
If a user is posting the same question repeatedly (1, 2), what should I do about it? I've flagged the most recent one as a duplicate of the first.
 
@Nkosi [ dbot ] free_hand_circle: false
@MihaiChelaru please refrain from linking to user profiles
 
@Makyen A moderator handled it.
 
Side question though, what is the purpose of that bounty anyway, won't it just expire or be rewarded to the top voted answer anyway unless the OP accepts an answer?
 
@Makyen Fastest Bhargav In The World
 
7:49 PM
The question is almost 9 years old.
 
@double-beep Yep :-)
 
@double-beep My apologies, will not link to user profiles here in future.
 
@MihaiChelaru see also the FAQ
@MihaiChelaru a moderator has handled the situation. You should better raise a custom mod-flag saying that the user has reposted the question.
 
@Matthew The person who posted such a bounty has the option to award it to whatever answer they desire. It will not be automatically awarded unless there is an answer added after the bounty is placed which gets a score of at least 2. In that case 1/2 of the bounty will be automatically awarded if the user who placed the bounty does not award it manually. If the OP places the bounty, then if they accept an answer that implicitly tells the system to award the bounty to that question.
I'm not sure if that is the case for bounties placed by other people.
 
@double-beep Ty, I'll re-read it. I didn't mean to moderate the user, not sure why I even posted the profile link.
 
7:53 PM
@Makyen Okay, thanks
 
@MihaiChelaru no problem :)
 
@MihaiChelaru At 3 or more of the same question, it's not unreasonable to raise a custom mod-flag. For only a single repost of a question, just vote/flag to close as duplicate. I'd also normally leave a comment explaining that reposting a duplicate question is not the way that things are handled on Stack Exchange, as some people might not be aware that doing so is not appropriate.
 
8:12 PM
\o night, today reached 9k flags in 7 months ;)
 
@double-beep Holy smokes... I am still at 50 :(
 
wow \o/
 
@Matthew I used to be a flag lightweight But then I found Charcoal. One to two months on the Charcoal flagging program and now I have lots of helpful flags. Don't wait, buy visit Charcoal today!
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@Machavity Shut up and take my money!
 
@Matthew been there, done that
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8:27 PM
@Machavity Shut up and take my stars!
 
8:43 PM
Mac Pro 2019 redesign: It's not a trash can, it's a waste bin
 
> The device will start at $5,999 for a configuration that includes 32GB of memory, an eight-core Intel Xeon processor, a 256GB SSD, and AMD Radeon Pro 580X graphics
 
Shut up and keep your technology
lol
@Machavity I was watching the video when you posted your link. lol
 
I'll take 2 - just as soon as I've arranged a mortgage
 
So wait. compare you monitor to a $43000 one so that you $6000 asking price seems reasonable?
 
@Machavity That's a large cheese grater
I bet it doesn't even do that very well :-p
 
9:00 PM
How much for the 24 core version with the full 1.5TB (!) RAM, the Radeon Pro Vega II Duo GPU, and some non-trivial SSD storage space?
 
To be fair, to a company, an $11k computer isn't terrible. The comments don't really seem to understand that the Mac Pro is geared towards professionals
It's horribly overpriced, but it's not a personal machine
 
totally aware of that
 
11k now? that escalated quickly :)
 
...and that is how the fight started
 
I've got more RAM and storage in my laptop, and 6 cores, and it was less than $6k
 
9:03 PM
Well, the computer and new monitor are separately priced
 
expected nothing less from iMortgage....uh I mean Apple
I'm just iTrolling
 
It's a nice looking bit of kit and that RAM maximum is incredible. I wouldn't kick it to the kerb. Just wouldn't buy it on my own dollar.
@Nkosi iSee
 
in all seriousness, the redesigned Mac Pro is actually looking pretty good
it doesn't look like literal trash and also has very powerful hardware specs
now, they also announced they're killing iTunes...
 
@TylerH Give it time, the original shock has not worn off yet.
 
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10:53 PM
@Machavity ping, got it, thanks, and thanks!
 
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