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12:48 AM
slow night...
 
1:00 AM
@Nkosi why? the duplicate is wrong and the duplicate of the duplicate is wrong too and... whatnot :D
ah ... :D it is indeed about a merge.
so nvm...
 
Can a room owner bin my last request please? Turns out it was just unclear but I can edit it to make it acceptable
 
@GBlodgett so do I also take back my cv
 
@Nkosi I've edited it. If you feel it's close worthy, leave your vote, but if you think it looks fine, go ahead and retract it
 
ok will do
 
@Nkosi you have c# gold badge, there were better duplicates in the chain
 
1:13 AM
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
@AnttiHaapala Yeah I just grabbed the one that was mentioned in the comments. I could have edited in the better ones, but settled on just deleting.
Cause while the OP accepted an answer. I thought they were bad, making the question not very helpful to other that stumble upon it.
 
@Makyen Thank you
 
@GBlodgett np. Another time: A) Please ping one of the ROs, preferably one that's been recently active. You can find the list of ROs, sorted by recent activity at the top, on the room info page (the "info" link just below the tags for the room, in the right-sidebar). The ROs are listed on the left of that page. B) It's really helpful to actually link to the message you want moved. That makes it 100% certain that we get the right message, instead of having to make a guess.
 
@Makyen Thanks, I will keep this in mind next time.
 
@GBlodgett Thanks. Of the two things, pinging an RO is probably more important. Without a ping, such requests sometimes get missed in the transcript and either totally forgotten or only found hours later.
 
 
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Good luck to the moderator candidates!
 
4:11 AM
 
 
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6:33 AM
 
7:12 AM
Morning \o
 
o/
 
Morning
 
8:04 AM
hi
 
@SurajJain Welcome
 
8:35 AM
@MichaelDodd closed by mod as obviously off-topic though
 
@tripleee Off topic yes (was already closed when SD picked it up), not red-flag worthy though
 
9:07 AM
@MichaelDodd Are you bot?
7
 
9:24 AM
@SurajJain I can neither confirm nor deny that ;)
 
Tiw
9:52 AM
It's kind of funny, kind of a game... That you see one or two guys are keep doing those add-one-tag-only edits, and then another one or two guys are keep doing those remove-one-tag-only edits...
 
 
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11:46 AM
@tripleee Was that one only broadcast in Charcoal HQ?
 
What do you think of this question? Is it on-topic?
 
@Vega I'd say barely.
 
@RobertColumbia Thank you :)
 
@Vega yw
 
I'm with Robert. It's borderline. I'm not sure that new answer passes muster, tho
 
12:15 PM
Yes. It's basically a "GMTC" question, but it's only asking for a line or two, not an entire module or application. More of a "How do I do this specific thing?" than "How do I accomplish [big list of requirements]?"
 
@MichaelDodd yeah, posts which only trigger experimental reasons are not reported here MS
 
@MichaelDodd Mostly covers the "bad NS" and "luncheon meat" reasons
 
Morning
 
@Machavity also "potentially bad keyword" i.e. watched
 
\o @Nathan
 
12:27 PM
o/
@Machavity Thank you :)
 
12:51 PM
o/ afternoon
 
o/
 
Hello guys!
 
Dont mean to disturb.
 
but what?
 
12:58 PM
o/
@ChandrahasAroori Welcome to SOCVR. How can we help you?
 
braces for onebox
5
 
the suspense is killing me
 
Perhaps he just wanted to disturb us with the fact that he didn't mean to disturb
6
 
@ErikA I find that disturbing
 
1:07 PM
Reckon this one is too broad? Trying to see if I can shape the question into a better direction
 
@MichaelDodd Isn't that now an off-site resource request?
 
@Vega Tending towards that now. Still holding off until for one last clarification request
Though the question's very relevant to me as I'm currently digging around in the Linphone source for SIP registrations
 
1:39 PM
Oof using the word "thingie" in a question. Makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up
 
2:33 PM
Off topic, but does anyone with great knowledge of SI units know what bar/m3 could possibly mean? I can't think of any use for pressure per unit volume...
 
sounds like a diving tank
 
@NickA huh? That'd be force per length^5. Sounds like sci-fi if you have that many spatial dimensions in your problem
@StephenKennedy how come? I'd expect a tank to have a maximum fill pressure (in simple Pa, bar, or whatever pressure units); this unit suggests a volume-dependent pressure
 
@Adriaan I'm a diver not a scientist :)
 
@StephenKennedy I'm a scientist, not a diver
But do you actually use pressure per volume?!?
 
@Adriaan Well, it's pressure per volume per hour
And I don't use it, I just support people that do
 
2:41 PM
@NickA that sounds like it's related somehow to particle loss from some container of size X over time, e.g. depressurising a tank. Why that's related to the volume of the tank is unclear to me though
 
Greetings all
 
@TylerH o/
@Adriaan Will update when I find out
 
@NickA just don't blunder into theoretical quantum/particle physics. Those people set hbar = c = 1 and simply omit writing them, making you think you have the most ridiculous units.
 
@Adriaan Apparently it's meant to be normalised dP
 
@NickA makes sense, I think; if the tank is bigger, 1 bar of pressure loss will equate to a larger mass loss than with the same pressure loss in a small container
 
2:49 PM
@Adriaan Meh, not my problem :P
 
M-M
@Machavity Agreed. Just a breakdown; I got a hold of myself right away and removed the msg. Thanks.
 
@Zoe I wouldn't say software rec
well
maybe I would, I dunno, weird question
Hope that helps :P
 
Zoe
3:05 PM
Eh, kinda sorta ^^"
 
@Zoe There's no skip button in chat!
 
Zoe
Whaa?
 
@Zoe I'd flag duplicate of the question linked in the upvoted answer
 
Zoe
I didn't think about dupes ^^" Good point ^^
 
3:14 PM
I didn't know mods could retroactively reject edits approved in the review queue ;o
 
@NickA So can the OP
 
@Machavity I knew could be rolled back, didn't realise it actually counted as a rejection though
 
@NickA It does. You even lose the +2 if it happens
 
OP can do it once IIRC
(mods can probably do it an unlimited number of times)
 
3:19 PM
@Mat We can't see flags, is there anything we can help you with?
 
^^
they duped their own q?
 
@MichaelDodd Ummm, you forgot the "We don't moderate users" part :)
 
@MichaelDodd I disagree. It was reported by Smokey and fp- was given. It will survive LQP queue.
 
Mat
Yes and in their latest question (the dupe), they linked to an answer of pretty much the same question, but by another user
 
@NickA I was referring to the question in that instance, or getting more information. At no point did I mention anything about users.
 
Zoe
3:21 PM
@Mat why?
 
Mat
@Zoe why what ? ^^'
 
@MichaelDodd Ah, I was referring to the first message :P
 
@Mat If you'd like us to watch you merge your problem in a simple chat message. But IMO now just let the mods decide
 
Zoe
@Mat What about that user warrants a mod flag?
 
@Mat If you have seen any irregularity, just mod flag and wait. They will take care soon
 
3:23 PM
@double-beep Original review was 2 deletes before the edit, that was heading for the dustbin
 
Mat
Oh I just thought this was the most appropriate place to ask this, my bad !
 
@Mat we can close that as duple of the other one but that could be useless.
 
Mat
It would indeed. Will wait for mod intervention. Sry again
 
@ekad I think you have resent a for these two.
 
@double-beep no, they're all different questions
@ekad Please do not target users with requests. If there's a user who is posting substantial inappropriate or copied answers, flag that for moderators instead
 
3:32 PM
^ cannot do an sd report
@MichaelDodd that's exactly why I can't do that. I am priv'd in CHQ
 
@double-beep Ah noted, so Smokey's having general issues then?
 
@double-beep ah, thought you meant that some of the three he posted in rapid succession were duplicates of each other
 
@TylerH I didn't mean to. I posted those requests based on the fact that those 3 questions are duplicates, without explicitly saying a user posted the same answer to those questions. Apologies if it looks like I'm targeting a user. Should I ask to bin those requests?
 
3:36 PM
@double-beep BTW, reposts are are allowed once the requests have aged out (the RO cleanup script moves requests older than 2 days to the graveyard)
 
since it's the 12th and those were from the 9th, they're allowed
@ekad nah I think they're things that need to be closed; but yeah, the concern there is not just avoiding the appearance of targeting a user with the cv-pls (e.g. not including the name or specifying that they're all the same), but also avoiding it altogether... to be fair they would be a fine series of requests had they been posted when the answers were posted
but since they're all from ~Mar 4th it seems clear that they were found via the user's profile
 
@TylerH, yeah, I found it. It was a message by @NathanOliver.
Feb 1 at 18:56, by NathanOliver
@double-beep It aged away. After 7 days we move requests that have not been completed. We don't accept repeats for those.
 
that's opposite prior behavior and also good sense @NathanOliver - what makes you say we don't accept repeats for those?
 
3:52 PM
@TylerH If no one felt that it needed to be closed ans aged away then we don't need to handle it anymore. It had its 7 days.
 
!!/location
 
um, what?
 
@double-beep teward/Lunar Eclipse
@double-beep NobodyNada/Raspberry Pi
 
@NathanOliver ^ that
 
Zoe
Put the RPi into standby
 
3:58 PM
\o/ 59 people in the room
60 now
 
@NathanOliver People don't really go back and act on CVs that require scrolling up to see or clicking "view more" so I don't really buy that argument. Being posted here for 7 days is not the same as "being visible/in front of peoples' eyes for 7 days" especially if we're having an active room conversation at the time
 
That's why we have the open request user script.
 
Which is not a requirement to use for members of the room
 
I'm bringing it up with the other RO's. We'll let you know.
 
and that's just one function; I'd bet most people use it for the formatting it provides to stuff live in the chat
@NathanOliver Rather I think it ought to be a discussion point in our next room meeting; it's not in the FAQ
 
4:01 PM
Then make it a room meeting item
 
I am writing one up already
 
4:17 PM
Just FYI: If a request is not complete: cv-pls requests are archived after 3 days. del-pls requests are archived after 7 days.
 
I knew 7 days sounded quite high...
 
@TylerH I agree that fewer people see it once the request scrolls off the chat page. OTOH, we do have the Unclosed Request Review Script which is specifically so people can more easily review requests that have not yet been completed.
@Makyen I should read more of the chat transcript prior to replying. Sorry for the duplication @TylerH.
 
@Makyen no worries; I always appreciate your late responses because they often provide additional information/context
Meeting topic posted to the repo
 
@Makyen I know this is from here, but scrolling further than I normally do, what's a CRUDE close? is it just for requests that are made in the CRUDE room?
 
4:30 PM
@TylerH Ahhh, I see, thanks
 
@NickA All of the RequestTypes Which begin with CRUDE_ are types that were added for the CRUDE room to match the more free-form requests that they were posting prior to starting to use the Request Generator (SOCVR also once used somewhat similar formats, years ago). Some of their users have adopted the Request Generator, but others still use their older formats. Those RequestTypes are not enabled in SOCVR, or the other rooms.
 
@Makyen Ah, so they match stuff besides [tag:cv-pls]
 
What's CRUDE stand for?
 
@NickA Yes. CRUDE doesn't have any actual specified required format for their requests. It makes for considerably more guessing on the part of their users as to what is desired. They also commonly list multiple posts in the same request message. Ironically, it appears they are not going to use the Archiver, due to people objecting that it might break up conversations that they have about requests.
 
@Makyen how many sites have a room like SOCVR, do you know?
@JohnDvorak it's in my link -close reopen undelete delete edit
 
4:36 PM
Ah, thanks.
 
@Makyen Having a standardised request format breaks up conversations about requests? News to me :P
 
@TylerH I'm not sure. The ones which the scripts currently target are: SOCVR, CRUDE (Mathematics), CRCQR (Code Review), and The Tavern. There may be other rooms that are specifically for moderation for additional sites. There are a variety of others that see a request from time-to-time.
 
TIL Tavern is "specifically for moderation"
I thought it was specifically for pouring some beer into oneself
 
@NickA Their issue is that moving completed requests to an archive room would break up any discussion about that request, both for transparency and for people wanting to review completed requests. I disagree, but it's not my place to be involved in how they want their room.
 
@JohnDvorak Tavern on the Meta?
 
4:44 PM
Yes
Is there any other Tavern?
 
@JohnDvorak :-) Not specifically for moderation, but it routinely sees requests. At least the SD reports are routinely archived. The last time I checked, the actual requests (e.g. cv-pls and del-pls) were not routinely archived, but that appeared to be due to the effort it required without the Archiver automating the process. Now that the Archiver fully works in Tavern on the Meta, I don't know if they will choose to routinely archive requests. That's up to their RO team.
 
There are many other taverns, just wanted to make sure I knew the one you were talking about
 
I can see why you wouldn't want to archive requests
 
I think the Tavern itself is not specifically for moderation, Makyen's comment seems to refer to other rooms on other sites that may want to serve that purpose
TOTM definitely supports/entertains chit chat and other discussions
 
I've kinda forgotten the benefits of archiving, though
 
4:49 PM
Yes, TOTM is certainly not primarily moderation, but it is the room that's used for requests related to MSE, and also gets non-"experimental" reason SD reports for all sites, but on a delay.
@JohnDvorak From what I've seen, it significantly reduces the amount of time users spend trying to action requests that are already complete. This can be when the user sees the requests in any of: the main chat view, search results for incomplete requests to review them, and/or in the SOCVR transcript. Given that we (mostly) use the actual chat reply feature, it's easy to find the request people are talking about, even once it's moved to the archive.
The people in CRUDE tend not to use the actual reply feature as much, and also tend to have lengthy discussions about a good percentage of the requests.
 
I suppose I should throw a curious eye into the CRUDE chat room
 
The URRS, with in-chat status, helps further to reduce time spent on complete requests, but not everyone can use userscripts.
@JohnDvorak If interested: CRUDE.
 
Thanks
 
@Makyen I hope I'm not the only one that read this as "In USSR ... <slowly realising not a joke about requests closing you>"
 
@NickA :-) Yeah, I've sometimes mistyped that. :-)
 
5:25 PM
@Adriaan I just found the Units i mentioned earlier listed under "Pressure Drop", so it looks like you were right ;p
 
@NickA always good to be right, ta
 
hmhm @Makyen magiceditor doesn't seem to work either in fx/gm
 
5:41 PM
@AnttiHaapala Hmmm... That's unexpected. A quick look at the code didn't indicate that it should be susceptible to the issues that commonly are not compatible with TM/GM4. I'll need to test (i.e. it will take a bit for me to do so).
 
@Makyen do you have a screenshot of it ? :F
I don't even remember how it shows
 
hey all is there any auto-comment about the situation where OP edit their question to include the answer they found instead of answering it? Should we create one?
 
also, 3rd question today with fonctions :P hope that's on the list
 
@AnttiHaapala There's a couple screenshots in the Magic Editor documentation.
 
5:58 PM
@StephenKennedy @Shree @BhargavRao I guess Reddit is the new Meta. Discussion of a Q you closed/deleted
 
@AnttiHaapala I am able to duplicate the issue. I'll look into it.
 
thanks :D
 
Mat
6:14 PM
Hey guys, is this an answer that is considered ok ?
https://stackoverflow.com/a/55119262/6923568
 
yeah, but it should better suit as a comment
 
Mat
But would there not be a possible answer then ?
 
there are some questions that 'report' bugs
they don't have answers
 
Mat
Ok thanks !
 
@Mat it is; I had a discussion about that a while ago with JonClements; 'No this is not possible' is an answer
 
6:17 PM
except when the bug is fixed or from people who notify them that it is
 
Mat
Well the question would then become off-topic: can't reproduce the problem, wouldn't it ?
 
no, other people may reproduce the bug
 
@Machavity how does this room work in a nutshell?
I'd like to potentially help out when time permits
 
@SterlingArcher It didn't, so we removed the nutshell
Sorry, I couldn't resist :D
 
You had me at nutshell.
 
6:20 PM
Prepares to sit down on silly yellow hardhat
 
Mostly we moderate questions. People find, discuss, and request votes on questions for closure, reopen and deletion
 
Mat
@double-beep I will ask OP (in a comment) to specify the versions then
 
Is there an automated side of things, like smoke detector?
 
@SterlingArcher there's FireAlarm which reports potentially bad questions, but for actual cv-pls requests it's user based. Most people do employ userscripts though
 

SOBotics

This room is dedicated to moderating content on Stack Overflow...
 
Mat
6:21 PM
Chat is so obscure lol
 
but for the most part it's etc?
 
@SterlingArcher don't forget the yelling at the screen. Lots of yelling involved in this room.
 
Nifty. Would you argue that your work in here is tangent to the review queue or more effective?
 
Not so much automated as well tooled. We have a handy list of userscripts. Lets you see all the open requests so you can visit and vote if you desire
 
@Adriaan I enjoy typing loudly :)
Oh that's really cool
Thanks y'all, im going to install the scripts
I hope I did that properly
 
6:29 PM
You did it properly, you get a "good boy" sticker
2
 
@SterlingArcher If you are not using Greasemonkey 4 in Firefox, you will probably find the alpha version of the Request Generator more helpful vs. the release version. It adds multiple additional request types, fixes several bugs/feature requests, allows automated revisits to posts you are wanting to keep track of, etc. However, it does not work with Greasemonkey 4, but does in all browsers supported by Tampermonkey or Violentmonkey.
 
I have tampermonkey installed, so I went with that one
Oh no, rlemon's dark theme doesn't play nicely with the "closed" button
 
@SterlingArcher A pointer to the theme and image of the problem would be helpful in, eventually, making our scripts work with it.
 
I'm not sure if it's a functional issue, clashing colors mostly
 
oneboxes
 
6:36 PM
@SterlingArcher edit the one box out..
 
we don't one-box here.
 
Well if you used dark theme you could just collapse it :3 github.com/rlemon/se-chat-dark-theme-plus
 
Last time someone one-boxed, he had to see rene's other side ...
 
@SterlingArcher Yeah, we have some rules about that
 
6:37 PM
You expect me to read 27 rules?
You're talking to the guy who has literally only tied his current pair of shoes once
 
Mat
Btw I speak french and never heard "onebox" before like last week. Is that actually a real term ? It took me a while to figure out that it meant image (in that format). Also google gives me nothing
 
sacred blur
 
@Mat It's how we refer to the "expanded" view. For instance, if you post a link to a question or Twitter entry, chat will expand it into this big block of formatted text. Images are shrunk but are still disruptive
 
Mat
Shouldn't that be specified in the rules you linked ? Or do native speakers all understand the word right away ?
 
6:42 PM
@Mat I see you speak French. What is that horrifyingly large abyss doing there?
 
32x32 images are accepted if flattering to Rene
4
 
@Mat Non native speaker here, didn't understand the term at first... I was like "where did I onebox?! I just posted a link", ... then searched meta after not getting any replies...
Also "non native speaker" is somewhat ambiguous... "non native speaker of what?"
 
@BhargavRao Klingon.
 
These tools are very nice guys
well done
and hello @JohnDvorak
 
@SterlingArcher Perhaps those tools are ladies...
 
Mat
6:44 PM
@BhargavRao well at least I know I'm not the only one who struggled haha. But yeah, can't the rules be updated quickly ? I believe it wouldn't hurt ^^'
 
Hello and welcome
@SterlingArcher I don't buy shoes with laces
 
@JohnDvorak those aren't flattering for my feet
 
@Mat I freely admit that some terms are, more or less, our own terminology (chat itself sometimes feels like an abandoned project), but it's the best we have. But nobody gets kicked for them, we just bin them
 
@Mat just FYI: with 'that large abyss' I meant the space before tall punctuation. That's a tell-tale sign your native language is French ;)
 
Mat
@Adriaan wow thanks for specifying because I would've never replied lmao
 
6:47 PM
@Machavity I noticed the graveyard move. Is that automated by checking tags for "closed" and moving those messages? Or manual?
 
@Machavity Is that a challenge? :P
 
@Adriaan French is a large abyss? I thought that was Latin
 
@Mat The term "onebox" is what SE uses to refer to that feature. It's in the Chat FAQ.
 
@SterlingArcher Fully automatic (we have a script ROs run). Graveyard is for old SD report and completed requests (i.e. your CV got closed)
 
awesome
 
Mat
6:49 PM
@Makyen wait is it ? I can't ctrl-f it
 
@Machavity well, Latin is more understandable to me, and at least there are no native speakers of that being me to me because I only speak a lousy four languages as opposed to them speaking just one
 
@Makyen yeah, I was looking for the term on that page. They must have changed it at some point and we missed it
 
@Adriaan you might like Lojban
 
@Mat something something whitespace ;)
 
Mat
@Adriaan Do you not like whitespace

?
 
6:53 PM
@Mat not before my tall punctuation, and if I'm grading student reports I will put a nice, red line through it (although I'm apparently not allowed to actually subtract points)
 
@Mat It's there for me: i.stack.imgur.com/Hvta9.png
 
@Makyen Bicycle! Dutch triggered
@Makyen that entire bicycle post is not shown on my version
 
Mat
@Makyen I can't see that either
 
That's interesting.
@Mat @Adriaan OK. Looks like you'll need to go to the base FAQ link and manually expand the "How do I format my messages?" section.
 
Mat
Wow ok, that is quite the deep search for a word. But hey it's there I suppose haha. Thanks
 
7:03 PM
np. Sorry the first link didn't show it. I'm still looking into why it does for me under some conditions. The original link I provided does show the onebox when I click it in some versions of Firefox, but not others and not Chrome.
 
Mat
Interesting indeed. Would mean some people do not see the same version of the FAQ depending on the browser they use ? Is it just that specific "onebox example" ?
 
I suppose I tried...
 
@Mat I'm not sure. The main FAQ link appears to be the same (grossly, I haven't checked in detail) on all the browsers I checked. It's just when deep linking to a section. This link at least moves the page to the formatting section while leaving the expand/collapse links functional.
 
I figured it out. If you go to the FAQ page URL directly, scroll down and click Show More under How do I format my messages? it's there
 
Mat
@Adriaan btw if you're grading in french, the whitespace is actually required eh :p
 
7:09 PM
What weird is going to the hashtag itself appears to take you to a separate page entirely
 
@Machavity Thanks. I'm off to Twitter to complain about Reddit being the new meta.
 
@StephenKennedy Let me know when you do so i can save it to Pinterest
2
 
Mat
Wow that is confusing. I have two tabs with the same url opened, and they're different pages.
 
@Mat well, I don't speak that, never lived in a place which has that as main language, so no, I don't have to do that. I know it's mandatory there, but it looks very, very off in any language but French (at least in the ones I speak) and it's problematic in my opinion, as the line-ending punctuation, such as a question mark, might wrap to a new line when using a space, which is highly undesirable.
 
7:13 PM
@Machavity in the JS room we adopted the python room's explanation of how to format messages sopython.com/wiki/…
perhaps a useful link to add?
 
Mat
@Adriaan Yeah I meant if you're grading french stuff, the french language is that way. Hence why you definitely can't subtract points. If you're grading reports in english from french ppl, that's ok to red line :p
 
@SterlingArcher Good find. Might have to do that
 
Mat
@Machavity tbh I'm not 100% sure I got that answer, but does that mean it's ok, or still b0rken ?
 
@Mat I'm posting a Meta about it. That Q was about why they look different, not why the content differs
 
Mat
7:18 PM
@Machavity Thanks ! Btw I personally have the exact same url for both, which is chat.stackoverflow.com/faq#formatting
 
@SterlingArcher in SOCVR... that is not good for your election result, normally peeps don't like peeps that close "ALLL THE THINGZZZZ"
 
Just joking, nice to cya around
 
Mat
Ok when I go to the faq, add formatting at the end of the URL, hit enter, and then refresh, the page is the different one. Is that how you guys did ?
 
I now have this Meta up about it
 
Mat
7:31 PM
@Machavity Should the steps I mentionned be in the question too ?
 
@PetterFriberg haha to be fair, my reviews are mostly downvotes and close votes
 
Mat
Or is that the fragment problem you wrote about
Oh and is that the way to contact the so devs ? By posting a meta Q and having it be upvoted enough ?
 
@Mat Obviously Twitter.
 
@Mat yeah but in 6-8 of random time unit :)
 
Mat
@E_net4 oh right, the social media I never touched in my entire life~
 
7:40 PM
@Mat If you have a problem, posting on Meta with the [bug] tag does go to devs
 
@Mat it's a joke about that SE develops based on Twitter instead of meta (there has been some examples) meta is fine, but you need patience.
 
Doesn't mean it will get fixed, but it doesn't go unnoticed either
 
Mat
@PetterFriberg Oh okok, I'm way too new to chat to understand the jokes/memes yet oops. Maybe one day I will~
 
@Mat yeah, its a rather complex joke also since it involves studying meta also... (or atleast I think @E_net4 was referring to this)
 
alright, I'm back up to 16k again
I kept dipping down just below due to answer downvotes
 
7:54 PM
ok now I know who it was
 
@Machavity would you consider stackoverflow.com/a/55126220/774078 this an answer or a comment?
I'm leaning to flag it
 
@SterlingArcher Have you read this meta before? It's borderline, but it does seem like an attempt to answer
 
I think that can go, it should be a comment at max
But it's easier to close and then delete
 
8:09 PM
@SterlingArcher If we close the Q, then Roomba would delete it all
That's the secret to sometimes getting rid of iffy answers
 
Yeah no needs for those mods :)
 
Or, you can comment and he deletes it himself. Good job!
Oh, i almost forgot, we have an AutoComment repo if you're interested
 
@PetterFriberg he he
 
Are you still on the canonicals?
Probably tp before grace period edit
 
8:27 PM
@PetterFriberg FYI: When you edit a reply to an SD report it creates and additional comment on the MS post. That's no problem, but it's helpful if you delete the original version on MS by going to the MS post page and clicking on the X for the first version of the comment.
 
@Makyen I saw but it was not a reply :) I will do that, anyway what is the remove command? del?
 
@PetterFriberg There's no in-chat command to remove a comment. You have to go to the MS post.
 
@Makyen no I meant delete SD report without feedback?
 
@PetterFriberg Ahh... Right, not a reply. SD can be a bit aggressive at thinking things are comments.
 
@Makyen I can't delete the comment on MS, I'm not a reviewer
 
8:35 PM
@PetterFriberg Yes, sd del will work. There are several aliases.
 
There is a mess with my accounts, I had 1 old, then Art told me to do a new one...
 
Mat
Is this an answer ? OP had a problem with some version, users answered a fix, OP self-answered basically "I used another version"
 
@Mat Yeah it's an answer
 
Mat
@PetterFriberg Hmm ok. Not what I would've thought. Thanks !
 
@PetterFriberg That sounds like a solvable problem. :-) You can request the MS "reviewer" role in CHQ. Doing so will permit you to use the userscripts (e.g. FIRE) to more easily give feedback and review the reported post. You will need to ping an MS admin. You can get a list using !!/whois admin, but that was run moderately recently in CHQ and the response is here.
Note that thesecretmaster generally only does development and not actual admin work, so I'd choose one of the others to ping.
 
8:40 PM
@Mat but if you had same problem would you not think it's good info?
@Makyen probably will do that later, but I don't like my new account :)
 
Mat
@PetterFriberg I did ask myself that, and came to the conclusion that although I maybe would, it doesn't answer the problem that is asked, and is therefore a noisy answer (even more so considering the right answer isn't "it's not possible").
Also mainly because by accepting such an answer, one could simply use that logic for a big majority of the version specific questions. Imagine the following Q&A: Q:"I can't use Git 42.0" A: "Use Git 34"
 
@PetterFriberg :-) The person with the most ability to edit the database (e.g. fix issues like multiple accounts) is Undo. ArtOfCode will normally be able to handle issues too.
 
@Mat Don't judge as "flaggable" answer if it's right or wrong, judge if it's an attempt to answer, attempt to find a solution to question. You can dv if you think it's wrong/bad. Considering that OP themselves says that they solved problem switching version, I consider it "attempt to answer/solution"
 
Mat
@PetterFriberg But what do you think of my hypothetical Q&A ?
 
@Makyen Don't worry not it's not very important, by now there is plenty of feedback so I'm concentrating on other stuff
 
8:54 PM
@PetterFriberg np. Certainly not a big deal for that particular post, but resolving it is beneficial overall, and may make what you do easier.
 
Mat
@PetterFriberg Because to me, according to my previous argument, I do Not see that as an attempt to answer, but rather an attempt to avoid the problem (In the same way one could say "Just don't use that software")
 
@Mat well there are plenty of those.. I think even I have passed an answer telling stuff is broke in certain versions. Ok he did not tell why it works (what's the difference), hence bad and We--> dv, but still attempt to answer.
@Mat overall I personally see no reason to flag it, the solution for him to that error was another version, we don't know why, but still it's info. It's different the suggestion that you are doing "Don't use" because it does not solve the issue.
It's not an attempt for a solution..
 
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