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After rereading it. It's NAA
 
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04:30
^ In regards to that, I wanted to flag as spam but I can't tell what the question would be possibly advertising. Frankly I don't know what to flag it as, but it doesn't read like anything to me.
Except maybe some kind of instruction manual.
@Daedalus I'm not sure if that's a homework dump or an instruction manual. It's definitely not a suitable question for SO. Looks like it just got closed.
 
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07:37
hiya \o
@jww not recently active
08:26
stackoverflow.com/questions/54956564/…: check subliminal buddhism in the end of the post. spam?
@SurajRao thanks!
09:21
@Jean-FrançoisFabre subliminal buddhism? Quois?
09:42
@tink revision 1 at the bottom
@SurajRao - ta. Didn't notice that.
Tiw
Tiw
Guess it's added when OP post the question on some forum. But hard to say... the profile has 3 urls too.
Zoe
Zoe
09:57
SU?
@Zoe yes
Zoe
Zoe
10:19
@Adriaan If you're using the inline one, just exit it and CTRL+click "edit (1)". It makes the review pop up in a different tab, and you can copy-paste the URL from there.
@Zoe oeh, smart and simple, love it. THanks!
Zoe
Zoe
No problem ^^
@SurajRao at least too broad
(multiple questions)
Zoe
Zoe
@SurajRao I'll second that
The last bullet point is also incredibly broad
@Zoe I think it should be Klingon.
Zoe
Zoe
@Adriaan I reeeally wanted to reply in Klingon to that :D
10:50
thats an improvement compared to other stuff here.. Atleast OP is asking how to search
Zoe
Zoe
@SurajRao Yea, it does beat "please search for me"
@SardarUsama needs a reject edit
Zoe
Zoe
@SurajRao What edit?
;)
@tink check previous edit of this question you'll see stackoverflow.com/questions/54956564/…
11:27
@SardarUsama just as a note, in comments [stats.SE] renders to the full link: Cross Validated same for the other network sites. Just make sure you use the URL name (so stats.SE) and not the site name when applicable
@Adriaan wasn't aware of that. Thanks for telling
@eyllanesc You seem to have an answer there socvr.org/faq#GEfM-no-requests-youre-involved
11:43
@SurajRao I had not read that part, how could I eliminate my request?
@eyllanesc by pinging an RO
cc @rene can an RO remove the reopen request?
@SurajRao @Makyen is here, too.
@double-beep ohh thank you bud ;)
Also reported by Belisarius in SOBotics.
should this be migrated to meta or just closed? stackoverflow.com/questions/54958332/…
@SurajRao: looks to be low-quality anywhere it is posted. Rather than migrated, perhaps a comment telling about meta and gently reminding that the quality of the post matters there as well.
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@SurajRao meh
12:54
@Zlytherin See the MS link on each Smoke Detector post? You can click on that to get why and other info - no privileges required :)
 
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Hey @Jean-FrançoisFabre any thoughts on this - you approved, but it got rejected. I have no idea which would be the correct outcome. stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/22352040
@StephenKennedy I was clearly wrong.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre oic. ty.
A wall of requests that only Alex On-Hold could climb... We must invite him here.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre when I see stuff like this I kinda miss the blatantly offtopic flag reason. I wish this was also a close reason
"Are you kidding me ?" close reason.
would roomba anyway but ok..
we also need a "Lord, give me strength not to violate the CoC" reason (*insert deity or non deity of your choosing)
@StephenKennedy write a very offensive comment on your favourite text editor. That helps.
15:23
@StephenKennedy Just tell them to use vim and it will solve all their problems. Once they're in, they'll never be able to exit and come back to ask more questions
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You can log in any time you like, but you can never leave...Welcome to the hotel Vim (guitar riff)
@Jean-FrançoisFabre If they didn't search before asking, what makes you think they'll search after? :P
Or fly paper
I suddenly remember that it's saturday...
🤷‍♂️
15:27
@Jean-FrançoisFabre What we need is a VimOS, with no virtual consoles
TIL: "Photogrammetry is the science of making measurements from photographs"
vi on VT100 and ARPANet only
vi on VT100 and JANET, for me
the guy who couldn't get out of vim has access to the 10k mod tools for asking that question fuming
yes, getting 10k rep with only 1 question I guess...
It was ancient times.
Some guy got 30k+ with only questions.
I'm sure you can get 10k this year.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre this year is a bit ambituous Jean, as I don't like to do FGITW
I've stopped doing that, and I still get votes.
Should I explain my technique? Maybe I should not.
15:39
That's not a real question :) vtc.
you got me 😀 okay, here's what I wrote a long time ago, still valid IMHO: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/359797/6451573
that's a real answer.
it is, tyvm
to cut it short, it's better to comment to get clarification, sometimes give a slight hint in a comment. Then let all the FGITW bozos post their bad answer, then post a good answer you took time to explain and test. You're not going to be the 1st to answer but that doesn't matter. "good answers rise to the top".
Plus, if the bad answers get upvotes, your good answer will get more upvotes, to make it rise to the top by irate viewers.
Zoe
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yep... I send cv-pls when posts are below a certain standard, but if I use that one, I'll end up cv-pls'ing 10-20 posts so far today...
There's so much trash today >.>
it's the week-end. We could program a bot that would comment exactly that: "my god so many bad questions" every saturday & sunday. That would work.
Zoe
Zoe
15:47
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Not many results found for "week-end". Did you mean "unusually trashy couple days in posts on SO"?
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I don't know which expression came first.
God created the earth, he worked 6 days, but at least, he rested on sunday, so it wasn't him who posted dumb homework questions using fake accounts.
probably grabbed a beer (after inventing it) and relaxed instead.
(btw I'm not sure that this story is true)
One would imagine God would have access to something more luxurious and/or potent than beer
Probably, but I don't want to promote hard drugs here.
@StephenKennedy you got 150 votes on your best answer! damn. That's good.
@Zoe: Done. downvote+refresh+click delete. That also works.
Zoe
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Not for 10k's - only 20k can delete answers
@Jean-FrançoisFabre That's not my BEST answer, but yes I have a +150
15:58
@Zoe Be sure to mod flag it so they know about the bad edit
@Zoe argh I know but it was a long time ago for me.
Zoe
Zoe
@Machavity Oki
@StephenKennedy voting works in strange ways.
It'll go away before hitting review...
Zoe
Zoe
There's another one >.>
@JohnDvorak when a question starts by "Write a program" I just want to downvote it 50 times...
16:01
I though NAA requests are not allowed here
Sorry for that if it's not allowed. But I'm sure that we can ask for answers to be deleted.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre You only have 40 downvotes per day, unless you use multiple accounts
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm quite proud of this one. Certainly better than the +150 stackoverflow.com/a/26576095/397817
(which would be illegal)
Yes I think we can ask
16:03
@JohnDvorak of course I don't. That would be illegal and stupid.
@JohnDvorak using two accounts is not illegal
Not stupid, just naive
Unless both of them don't interact with each other
@StephenKennedy nice. Not even accepted. Pity.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Not sure the OP ever came back tbh
16:04
okay you could have one account for and another one for real languages.
Zoe
Zoe
That reviewer has so many incorrect review edits >.>
@Zoe that reviewer looks aggressive. Now they engaged with you.
@Zlytherin reflag-pls is allowed, in circumstances such as when the answer was edited out of the LQP queue, which clears existing flags
Ahh I see
Zoe
Zoe
16:06
@Jean-FrançoisFabre How horribly? I saw a notification I missed
Undo is on it at least - he'll be able to undo this.
Undo is going to undo editing privileges...
flag queue is pretty small
@Zlytherin that request type is listed here but there's no guidance for it that I can see
on week-ends, the issues are mainly the questions, not the answers.
@Zoe So if Undo makes a mistake when he undoes something, do other mods undo Undo's undo?
Zoe
Zoe
16:08
@Undo It might be worth going over more of the reviews, especially those edited.
looked at the last few of them, nuked a few
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy No, the mods don't simply undo Undo's undo, they first need to undo the undo and then undo Undo.
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@StephenKennedy lol
One does not simply undo Undo.
16:08
Lol
Oh I just commented "NAA" on my answer deletion. But I could have commented: "this needs to go". I didn't ask flagging, I asked deletion. I'm in the clear :p
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I missed that that you asked for deletion.
Figured out I'd save somebody's time. The mod action can carry on on deleted answers.
16:12
All these FAQ posts seem irrelevant to me @Zoe @Zlytherin. Zoe asked for a reflag, not a review or for extra flags on an NAA. (@Zoe better to not include next time, it just confuses things)
@Zoe You misunderstood me, I was not talking about your request
@StephenKennedy No offense but you too misunderstood me
And that editor guy needs some talking to. Editing that? what a joke.
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy That last one is specifically on reviews though
@Zlytherin Most likely, yes.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I was talking about this request
well, noone died.
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drat, I kinda liked noone
that's good.
@Zoe Either we're talking about different things, or you're wrong, but I've lost interest now :P
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy Meh, it seemed like an attempt to say "reflagging NAA's isn't allowed", my replies was aimed at that.
The dodgy edit y'all were talking about was on a now deleted answer I take it?
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all nuked
@Jean-FrançoisFabre could you lend me 3k rep pse? [to be clear, this is a joke]
And 8.2k for me too.
@StephenKennedy I wouldn't even notice it 😀 of course I know this is a joke
I can upvote all your questions if you like. And all your answers too. Preferably in a short period of time.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yeah but there was some controversy here in the past when a well-intentioned high rep user actually did try to get other regulars up to 10k by issuing bounties. Didn't end well.
before my time in the room, but I've read about it
16:28
@StephenKennedy I'm tight fisted as my highest & only bounty was 50 rep 😀
Last question I asked I had to delete it it was a dupe, remember ?
yes. and?
yeah you can bounty on other guys questions.
I mean "I don't ask so many questions"
Me too, and for 2 reasons: People like you who want to downvote and close everything :), and because I do my own research!
someone is upvoting some of my questions... 3 votes in a few minutes...
I usually do my own research. I must have been tired... and took the time to craft a question... And we curse users that do that.
Fortunately or unfortunately that's me
I just found them cool.
16:34
thanks 😀 I don't think reversal will take place. If they're useful for you, no problem.
My pleasure
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy Still watching that user though
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Isn't 2 the max before reversal?
the number is kept secret to avoid fraud below the limit. If the 3 votes are reversed, then we'll know (and Zlytherin has nothing to worry about)
I had a lot of upvotes when I candidated last year. None of them were reversed.
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy >=3 consecutive votes leads to reversal, yes.
Assuming it's by one voter*
16:39
@Zlytherin I have the answer for the Ada & C++ exception issue. I'll post it when I come back from holiday, since I don't have the code here.
@Zoe sure?
Yeah I know it's kept secret but I had a feeling the consensus was that the formula is > 2. As you say we'll find out later.
We'll find out tomorrow for sure 😀 I'll keep you posted
Zoe
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I've gotten a bunch of batches of two downvotes that didn't get auto-removed.
Thanks for that
Zoe
Zoe
Mod-flag about it and it gets reverted (which means there's actually a reason)
16:40
2 downvotes yes, you have to flag manualy.
It works
(except if 2 people downvoted, which happened to me too...)
Zoe
Zoe
well, yeah
But those are more obvious, and it's usually on the same post
got 2 downvotes on 2 different posts, weren't reverted.
Zoe
Zoe
But if there's two downvotes cast in a short period of time on two unconnected posts (usually questions), that's different
But that could be the meta effect, elections, whatever.
Zoe
Zoe
most of it depends on the time span though
16:42
also someone sharing your post with a colleague. Both upvote / downvote.
happened to me too. Got 2 upvotes on the same question months later. Probably a share.
IIRC, it also depends on the time-frame over which the votes are cast, even within the same day. Someone voting on multiple posts by the same user in the same day can be OK, if the user that's voting is just encountering the other user's post organically (i.e. not going through a profile and voting just because it was a post by that user). For proliferate answerers, it's actually likely for someone to encounter multiple posts by that answerer in a day when researching issues.
proliferate answerers: you just described me
on a niche tag, it's probably true too.
16:57
Yeah, there are tags where one user, or a small number of users, have the significant majority of answers. When working on the technology covered by the tag, it's quite likely for someone to come across multiple answers by the same user, many of which are likely to be of higher quality and helpful (i.e. something that one might upvote).
Zoe
Zoe
That too ^
17:17
@Adriaan re: The note in this request: If you can use the alpha version of the Request Generator, there's a "review-pls" button at the top left of the question page's suggested edit review popup.
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Night
 
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Having the script check for duplicates by other people prior to posting a request would be beneficial. It's on the list,
but it's still a while from when it will be implemented.
 
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Are we allowed to use [tag:flag-pls] as "its no longer needed" for comments that beg for an answer to be accepted?
dbc
dbc
21:55
There's no way to automatically flag a question as "belonging on unix.stackexchange.com/";, is there? The official "General Computing" close checkbutton directs people to superuser.com, but for Linux usage questions (and I see a lot here) wouldn't unix.stackexchange.com be a better choice?
Zoe
Zoe
> Questions about general computing hardware and software are off-topic for Stack Overflow unless they directly involve tools used primarily for programming. You may be able to get help on Super User.
(emphasis mine)
@HovercraftFullOfEels I'd want to discuss it with the other ROs, but my first take on it is that it's a moderation function where there can be benefit to having more people act. So, initially, I'd say yes. I do have the concern that the number of them not get out of hand, but that's something we can deal with if it happens. If you're encountering a lot of such, it might be beneficial to involve SOBotics as they routinely deal with flagging comments and/or automatically detecting them.
Zoe
Zoe
It doesn't direct anyone to SU, it says it could be a possible site to post on instead
dbc
dbc
@Zoe But still, I think we could do better. Actually, is there any guidance on the network as to when ask at superuser.com vs unix.stackexchange.com
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@Makyen Thank you for the reply
 
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