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12:35 AM
I know Roomba is a vacuum cleaner, but what does in mean for SO? Why are questions Roombad?
 
@OldPro see this.
 
@ekad So Roomba means all/any kind of automatic deletion? The word "roomba" isn't mentioned on that page even though it is in the link.
@Closy, current tag?
 
12:54 AM
@OldPro Yes, basically. Although, it specifically means the five tasks mentioned on that page, but it may mean some expanded capability, depending on how used. By far the most common usage on SO/SE wrt. deleting questions is those five tasks, more likely one or more of the three tasks: RemoveAbandonedClosed, RemoveDeadQuestions, and RemoveAbandonedQuestions, as the migration ones are commonly forgotten. IIRC, there's a Meta post feature request to add "Roomba" somewhere on that page.
@OldPro Closey is currently dead.
 
@Makyen OK, thanks for letting me know
 
@KenWhite shouldn't this be flagged for mod attention, as its 100% trolling?
 
@OldPro If you run userscripts, you might want to try Roomba Forecaster, a userscript I wrote that will tell you if a question will be Roomba'd. If the question will be deleted by the Roomba, the userscipt will tell you when. If the question won't Roomba, the script will tell you why.
 
1:21 AM
@Vickel Not IMO. It appears to be a new user who doesn't know better, and that hasn't yet taken the tour or read the guidelines.
 
@KenWhite fair enough
 
 
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3:37 AM
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3:53 AM
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7:13 AM
Morning all \o
 
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7:53 AM
^ Seems more like a misguided user rather than robo-spammer with that third answer, so left a comment advising about his previous two answers.
 
8:10 AM
o/
 
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9:30 AM
look, automated job:
Please don't make more work for other people by vandalizing your posts. By posting on Stack Overflow, you've granted a non-revocable right, under the CC BY-SA 3.0 license, for SO to distribute that content. By SO policy, any vandalism will be reverted. If you want to know more about deleting a post, please take a look at How does deleting work?iBot 1 min ago
 
9:44 AM
@iBug neat
 
10:03 AM
@iBug What is its prime directive? ;)
genuinely curious.
does it do the roll back and then comment? or is it just looking for recetly rolled back vandalism and then comments?
 
10:23 AM
@Nkosi Look for recent vandalism and auto-comment
It doesn't have enough rep to roll back (though it can use my account). But it also doesn't depend on rollbacks, it only check if the post is edited into garbage (vandalism)
 
@iBug OK, that is cool. automatez all the thingz
 
It seems harder to find a "reasonably valid" old revision to roll back to, so I have no plan to implement auto roll back now.
 
understandable.
 
10:37 AM
oh waffles
 
yes, waffles
 
:) lol
speaking of which, I should go grab breakfast
 
11:00 AM
do I mod flag a user who seems to have deleted and added same answer 3 times to get around downvote?
 
on the same question?
 
@SurajRao Maybe, but I think the automatic answer ban will kick in eventually
 
@MichaelDodd +1, just keep downvoting their answers (if the answers warrant -1)
 
@Nkosi yes
 
@MichaelDodd depends on their rep; if it's high enough you'll never be caught
 
11:33 AM
@Shree Flag was disputed
@Shree Though user was nuked. I'm confused
 
Yap mine too ??? Confuse. I understand Hindi language and text about mother and a*** f**** slang language.
But mod just delete and dispute flag :(
 
probably miss-click, since they nuked user. I would not worry too much
 
Interesting, my flagging history tells me what flagging is... it doesn't expect me to know that by now?
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well @Shree with more then 20.000 flags is still confused :P
 
11:44 AM
@PetterFriberg Oh really, well Shree, according to my flagging history: "Flagging is a way to bring inappropriate content or behavior to the attention of the community. See: What is flagging? These are the flags that you have raised, along with their current status. You can filter this list using the links in the sidebar."
 
Autoflagged FP: flagged by @SmokeDetector, @quartata, @MEE
 
@NickA :D
 
:D
 
Hopefully that link clears up any confusion :D
 
I guess Mod just treat that as not a English (Unclear) and delete the post and dispute our flag. :D Happy for not a declined :D
 
11:52 AM
I guess they taught it was an answer in non-english... disputed... then they realized it was gibberish/offensive and nuked the user...
@NickA hmm actually I got more confused since it has an description of "Usage guide for very low quality"
 
@PetterFriberg Now I'm confused :(
 
and they link this post that indicates/recommend that gibberish should be flag VLQ :)
 
@PetterFriberg D: SO tries to be helpful and shows us what flagging is and ends up throwing a spanner in the works, now what am I supposed to think
 
user8682794
12:08 PM
@PetterFriberg thanks... it wasn't a Meta post originally but some people thought it better serves the needs of new users by burying it in Meta.
 
Well I do agree that it needs to be on meta.. but it's a really nice post, I would like to do something similar for jaspers
 
12:23 PM
Why do we have so many VLQ questions at this time? 😲
 
1:03 PM
@iBug Once again, R/A flag declined on this SD report but user nuked anyway. What's happening today?
@NickA 謝謝 :)
 
np :D
 
1:32 PM
Morning
 
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1:44 PM
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2:02 PM
I feel a bit bad because they've spent a long time writing that up
 
@MichaelDodd yeah, looks like an otherwise decent question
 
tell them to ask it on programmers
 
@YvetteColomb Have a moment to talk about a flag?
 
@E_net4 I just don't even...
 
@JohnDvorak Cheers, left a comment
 
2:18 PM
@MichaelDodd Me too. You might want to bring that up on MSO
 
@iBug Will do that later when I get home
 
2:36 PM
@Machavity It's a spam seed, look at the user's profile
 
@MichaelDodd Yeah, that looks fishy
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman OP has comments saying they've updated and pos still getting issue .. ^^ maybe worth keeping eye on comments chain for a while before voting? I could be wrong though :S
 
I'm loving the new flexbox debugger in Firefox 65
the new tracking protection looks promising too
 
@treyBake I had a look, feels meh. Gonna have one more look now.
@treyBake 40 mins and OP hasn't come back. Let's close?
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman thanks, I just feel like it could be a typo, but the question doesn't have enough info to fully declare
 
@treyBake True...
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman yeah can agree to that, if they edit/comment to say more than we can always reopen
 
2:59 PM
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman I've voted as "Why isn't this code working?" feels maybe a better suit for time being
 
@treyBake Yea, no MCVE works too.
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman very true, jsfiddle shows no error other than undefined object. So let's get a closing! :)
 
3:18 PM
Finally 3k rep, time to help close topics too :-)
 
Woot. Congrat
 
Thanks! I'm proud of myself, time to get to 5k now :-)
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver yes
 
@SmokeDetector interesting; self-deleted
 
user3956566
3:32 PM
@Adriaan yeh, I left a comment.
 
@IslamElshobokshy Congrats!, not much fun at 5K go directly for 10K :)
 
thanks @PetterFriberg ! Yes I'll be going to 10k but I need a nearer goal first or it'll be too long to reach ! :P
 
@IslamElshobokshy If you answer often, keep an eye out for bronze and silver tag badges. :)
 
Oh for goodness sake, I have 8k helpful flags I don't need to be told what flagging is :)
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yep @E_net4 I'm trying to actually farm bronze badges, I got one for JS, soon I'll be getting a jquery one and afterwards I'll go for the PHP one. It's actually the most fun way to farm rep is to try and farm tag badges :D
 
3:41 PM
@IslamElshobokshy Oh nice, maybe you can get the badge for all rounders - forget what it's called
 
@StephenKennedy generalist, innit?
 
@StephenKennedy reminds me of a time when a mod on another site tried to tell me I didn't know what comments were for and I was like 'bud I have like 4k helpful comment flags I know what comments are for' and he was like 'well I disagree with your point, you're banned for not kowtowing to me'
 
@TylerH lovely. which site was that? (so I can avoid it)
 
oh so only a score of 15? yeah @StephenKennedy I think I might go for that :D
 
@StephenKennedy rpg.se
two of the four mods there pretty much just shut down any notions that run counter to their own and the other two don't get involved much. It's had a chilling effect on site growth and community involvement, etc. and caused users, some high profile, to leave
 
3:46 PM
@YvetteColomb For this was it disputed because it appears the is asking for help?
 
I raised an issue with the staff and catija sent an initial email but never responded
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman even with the gold badge you can't close topics by youself?
 
@IslamElshobokshy Only dupehammering possible. Not others. Only mods can do it at one shot.
 
@IslamElshobokshy That only works for duplicates. Hopefully they'll open that up one of these days.
 
Didn't know, okay thanks ^^
 
3:50 PM
Hopefully they'll give some power to silver tag badge holders too. Some nice ideas were presented but nothing has happened yet.
@IslamElshobokshy You can track your progress here data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/594966/…
 
@StephenKennedy thanks! 7/40 still a long way to go lol
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver it was in response to a custom flag.
 
user3956566
It's not something I would usually do, but the flag gave a convincing argument. So I disputed them.
 
user3956566
It's hard to keep everyone happy. juggling balls
 
3:57 PM
@IslamElshobokshy You're ahead of me then and I've been a member for over 8 years. I have the points in 6 tags, and 10+ score in 3 more. Anyway, that should be a fun challenge for you :)
 
np. I was just curious. A disputed flag doesn't really matter, and it was deleted, so in the end everyone wins :)
 
4:07 PM
cheers to you @StephenKennedy :-)
 
4:50 PM
@SmokeDetector Degenerate the triangle to understand the degenerate triangle to understand the degenerate triangle to understand the degenerate triangle to understand
 
@iBug Raised a meta about that declined flag - meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/379552/…
 
I got a +2 rep notification today. It's been a long time since I've seen one of those.
 
@NathanOliver Two deleted downvotes?
 
Nope. It was from a suggested edit. And answer on SX.se had the wrong link in it so I edited it. I actually had to write an edit summary :o
 
5:09 PM
@Machavity is the the degenerate triangle a subset of the axis of evil?
 
@StephenKennedy I thought it referred to 3 kids smoking weed on the corner myself
 
5:30 PM
AGGHH
aggressively slaps chat
 
6:04 PM
@Compass ouch ...
 
"Head instructor at Facebook"
presses X to doubt
 
6:31 PM
 
7:37 PM
Night all \o/; Good day today again! Reached 1900 reputation! Next target: 2000 Next target after 2000: 3000; Wish to help with the close votes.
 
o/
 
Could someone explain me why this is a valid answer? :(
 
7:53 PM
@E_net4 It's an answer in another castle isn't it?
 
@E_net4 - what @StephenKennedy said; link-only answers are not OK
 
@tink My NAA flag was declined, though.
 
Oh, and /o =D
@E_net4 - that's weird.
 
@E_net4 Did you set off a stink bomb in the moderators common room or something?
 
@StephenKennedy How can one tell when that happens?
 
7:58 PM
@E_net4 I was joking there, but the underlying point is a serious one - you seem to have had some odd flag outcomes recently
 
@StephenKennedy If they are judging my flags based on my person instead of the target content, without even telling me, then something is seriously wrong. :S
 
Where do I see how a flag was handled?
 
@tink Enter profile dashboard, impact box, click on "helpful flags".
 
@E_net4 - ta! :)
 
Granted, I would understand if mods told me to stop flagging so many "Why the downvote?" comments. But the way I see it, I'm doing some positive cleaning, especially when I find stinky ones such as those calling people cowards, crazy, monsters...
 
8:07 PM
you crazy monster!* (*COC approved)
 
@StephenKennedy Welcome to Monster Overflow! Now get off my lawn, please
 
Monster Inc.?
 
Monsters vs Aliens?
 
@Machavity What gardening tricks have you tried on your lawn? Please read [how to garden] (flagged as r/a)
 
Rob
@E_net4 I think you mixed up posts, there aren't any handled flags on that answer
 
8:19 PM
Monster Munch?
 
@Rob Oh, right! Thank you for looking this up. I received a notice from another recently declined NAA flag (valid I guess), and mixed them up. :s
 
Rob
No problem :)
 
@rene As long as we're the ones making kids laugh, we're cool, right?
 
8:39 PM
@E_net4 I guess so
 
Java/Android folks - is this POB or no? stackoverflow.com/questions/54416510/…
 
9:05 PM
think that's an f
 
@TylerH Yeah, reads more like clueless new user then a spammer.
 
9:21 PM
Oh did you know reputation increase was now binary?
 
For crying out loud click on your reputation score.. It's hurting my OCD
 
@GBlodgett He's French. They never check their reputation based on principle
 
Some decide to stop showering. I decided not to click on that icon again.
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The most I ever let mine get up to was over 100 and then I couldn't take it anymore
 
9:23 PM
lol
 
you can check your rep increase in your profile too.
 
Mine is binary most days. 0.
 
0 is binary all right :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yes but that doesn't rid the notification from the banner
 
@StephenKennedy Just downvote a terrible answer a day and then flag as NAA. So your rep goes 0, then 1, then 0, then 1...
 
9:25 PM
@GBlodgett nope it doesn't. That's the whole point :)
@Machavity but someone could accept an old answer of yours and ruin it with a 5.
 
does anyone know swift?
 
you can thank MadaraUchiha for those pics. His nice chatroom plugin allows to directly paste image data here (among other cool things)
@jonwilson err: just click here:
I know a guy who knows swift. Does that count?
 
@jean
@Jean-FrançoisFabre no thanks
 
I feel your pain.
 
@jonwilson Someone knows swift
 
9:30 PM
@Machavity yeah, the guy I'm talking about.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Oh, yeah. That one guy who knows swift. He lives with the guy who knows COBOL, right?
 
@jonwilson if you can ask a good question, I'm sure you'll get some answers. It sucks but it's still popular among masochists.
@Machavity you mean roommates?
 
I could get a book and learn swift, but it'll take me a couple of weeks to digest it all, so it won't be swift
 
The guy I know knew zit about swift (he got a training but then forgot). Then he googled stackoverflow like a maniac and now he's doing great.
 
@StephenKennedy Going to need to eat a lot of apples, then
 
9:32 PM
The preferred way is to get a book first, then ask on SO if you have a problem. Not the other way round.
WTF about spam/not spam chatroom popups? I got one, clicked on "invalid" and got told "you can only click here for posts that have been flagged". That isn't funny.
 
@Machavity In my world, Apple is a record label owned by the Beatles
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Not from this room I take it?
 
nope, from C++ lounge
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre The notification does not go away if the flag gets handled so you get a wonderful error message if you try to act on it after it has been handled
 
we're developping iOS apps. I'm on the C++ part (thankfully), but other guys have to have physical contact with a macintosh. Eeew
 
9:37 PM
@NathanOliver thx. Those flags are almost never valid anyway.
 
my favourite computer game was Doom with a mod where you can shoot Macs
 
ah the old PC / Mac war. Reminds me of the Atari / Amiga war...
good times
 
we've come a long way since then, it's quite extraordinary really
 
Was/Is it really a war? I'm pretty sure we can all agree Linux won ;)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Are you going to run again for mod next time?
 
9:43 PM
@StephenKennedy probably. Competition is rough, though.
@NathanOliver Linux is amazingly efficient and stable and all... when you compare it to other erm... OSes... but I'm a masochist myself and only using Windoze...
Not even sure when next elections will take place.
I love Windows because the amiga emulator is just excellent 😀
(I can chat with the guy and report bugs and all, directly)
@NathanOliver it is a nostalgia war
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Same here. I run Windows 10 at home and work and I really like it. One of these days I'm really going to learn linux, if for no other reason then to help with my C++ programming, but I haven't got there yet. I'm not looking forward to learning a new command line
 
I don't even have linux installed. But I'm lobbying for a windows => Linux switch at work, and it may happen one day since we ditched all crap Windows-only apps, specially this big DOORS turd.
The problem with dev apps in Windows is that a lot are Linux ports, with - added - bugs.
@NathanOliver command line isn't an issue when you make it start by
$ python
 
Windows 10 here, but I almost always have a bash shell open
 
ditched MSYS and all those bash emus for native python and glad about that.
 
Hopefully windows 15 will be Linux based. It wouldn't surprise me if they did that. Microsoft knows how to make a UI, and then they can benefit from the open sourceness of Linux.
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9:51 PM
@NathanOliver yeah, they're not as stupid as some say. They already made a dynamic version of GIT. And they open source more and more.
 
Yep. With Edge moving to chromimum it makes it even more believable.
 
now they have to ditch Visual C++ :)
 
Winlux on the desktop and Linux on the server would suit me just fine. I hope you're right.
 
yeah, linux UI isn't that good. But they don't have the INFAMOUS DOS COMMAND PROMPT WITH SQUARE SELECTION from 1982
 
What code snippet? It probably needs -std=c++17 and a up to date compiler if I suggested using something like std::array data{1,2,3,4};
 
10:38 PM
@NathanOliver not your fault: stackoverflow.com/questions/53637613/…
works perfect on all online compilers and g++ but not on crap clang from xcode. But we'll upgrade. ATM it's only used for a cache feature, so we can turn that off
 
Ah. Weird that it breaks on your system. Now I'm curious. If you ever decided you want to find the cause of the bug let me know.
 
I have to create a [mcve] :)
 
New hypothesis: Microsoft went from Windows 8 to Windows 10 because they use floating point numbers with a three-bit mantissa to store the version number
 
10:41 PM
I heard a lot of stories but not that one!
one of them being: if program test OSes like version starts with "Windows 9" they could match "Windows 95" and "Windows 98".
 
I heard that 7 8 9 so they had to skip to 10 ;)
 
we'll never know
 
We will, if the next version is Windows 12
 
Windows 12 would be mixed up with Windows 2012 (server). Why are they mixing years and versions??
 
They do use year numbers - to name major updates.
 
10:47 PM
now they have 11, 13 (bad idea), 14, 15, and 17+ but then they can't suffix their server editions with the years
They seem to use years for pro/server editions, and version numbers for home.
Well, I wouldn't like to be in the shoes of the guy who decides the version names ...
ok guys time for a 8-hour nap :)
 
M-M
@JohnDvorak It has nothing to do with programming. OP asks what cellphone should I buy!!!
 
M-M
11:31 PM
About this stackoverflow.com/questions/54153084/… NO MCVE req: OP clearly asks I am not sure what wrong with the script. Sometimes we are reluctant to CV when we see some code, so wanted to clarify.
I had a question, is there a query out there to find out the questions I close voted so far which are not yet deleted and are left as closed?
 

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