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dbc
6:10 AM
@SmokeDetector What's going on here? It looks like the poster took some content from the linked website, ran it through some sort of natural language transform (The bitwise operators allow you to manipulate different kinds of data in their binary form. => The bitwise operators permit you to govern totally different forms of knowledge in their binary kind.), then posted it. Should this be flagged as copied content? Or just downvoted and voted for deletion?
Just to be clear I'm referring to this answer: Using bitwise operators.
 
6:27 AM
@dbc Looks like a custom mod-flag with basically that info would be good. You might want to mention that the user has had a prior post also linking to the same site (which may have had something similar wrt. the text, but metasmoke is down at the moment so I can't check).
 
dbc
@Makyen Was about to do as suggested, but the post got deleted as I was picking "flag". But I'll do that in the future if this happens again.
 
7:22 AM
far be it for me to tell anyone how to vote, but I hope those two upvotes on my latest cv-pls aren't any of us here
 
Morning all \o
 
dbc
Is this a (bad) answer, or Not an Answer? stackoverflow.com/a/54397272/3744182
 
@dbc I'd say a bad answer, but not NAA. The all capital letters should be edited though.
 
7:39 AM
@ekad I'll give it a little clean-up
 
dbc
Fixing the capitalization and other cosmetics won't fix the fact that the question is asking for a way to limit access to a file to a specific program, because limiting to a specific user isn't strict enough, but the answer suggests, U CAN DO IT BY USER NAME OF PROGRAM.
 
7:53 AM
@dbc so the answer is wrong, but it's still not NAA. I once flagged a wrong answer as NAA and the flag was declined with this reason: "flags should not be used to indicate technical inaccuracies, or an altogether wrong answer".
 
Makes me wonder, what's the equivalent for written languages that don't have upper and lowercase characters? I'll have to ask my wife later what the Chinese equivalent is
 
dbc
@ekad With all the caps I wasn't sure, and asked here. With the formatting normalized (thanks Michael) it does seem sufficiently answerish.
 
Japanese has katakana vs. hiragana. Chinese is kinda out of luck... or in a sense lucky that they don't.
 
@SmokeDetector k - very subtle spam link in full stop
@JohnDvorak I'm aware katakana is mainly used for "foreign" words (and occasionally for stage names, bassist/singer Miki Furukawa uses katakana to spell her name professionally), but is it also used for emphasis?
 
I got a brief HTTP503 on Stack Overflow, then I refreshed and it was gone.
 
 
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9:41 AM
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Can you check this one for me please? Didn't get spam nuked (still pending) so I'm guessing it was self-deleted
 
10:23 AM
 
10:43 AM
Waffles
 
10:57 AM
@MichaelDodd Spam nuked bro.
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman review above dup please :) ^
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman ta :)
 
Thanks.
 
Just saying my hellos, was invited here on this post stackoverflow.com/questions/54399739/… , hopefully I'll do y'all proud and thank you for the invite @jww
 
11:05 AM
See also the proposed edit on the (terrible) answer.
 
@treyBake welcome \o
@treyBake Just make sure you take a few moments to read the FAQ at socvr.org first
 
@MichaelDodd thank you, I'll go through it all :)
 
11:20 AM
@treyBake No worries, the key ones are basically don't flood the room with requests, use [tag:cv-pls] and a valid reason before requests, and don't post requests that you have a stake in (e.g. you've posted an answer).
 
11:49 AM
@MichaelDodd it was not spam nuked, it had spam flags on it but self-deleted by OP.
 
@PetterFriberg Cheers, flag was later marked helpful so must've been mod-approved
 
They probably just cleared the flag, OP's account is still there.
 
@PetterFriberg I'm surprised, that's the second spam post they've had flagged today, and they've had a previous account nuked for spamming the same domain
 
baah account is probably answered ban anyway.
 
12:10 PM
Gotta love sympathy upvotes :/
 
1:05 PM
@IslamElshobokshy did you mean multiple distinct questions at once?
 
1:30 PM
@double-beep too broad :), I'm not so sure that's too broad
you better go for unclear on those
 
Morning
 
1:48 PM
@Bebs huh? I'm not even convinced he has the code in the first place :s Is he asking for example code, or does he already have a running piece of code which needs to be extended?
 
@Adriaan quote " I can see the example code to fill screen, draw line," maybe I misunderstood this?
 
So, is it new that you can use ``` to display code blocks?
 
@NathanOliver Looks so...
 
@NathanOliver Yes
 
I recently found out that SO supports GFM!!!
Wow!!!
Why didn't they inform us?
 
1:58 PM
Wow, 4 years to implement a FR
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman You mean the triple tick thing?
waffles
 
@Machavity ty ^^
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Assuming that's what you meant, they just didn't announce it loudly
 
2:22 PM
@Machavity OMG...
@Machavity Yep.
@Machavity WHERE???
It was asked about Mar 19 '15 time...
 
Again with the sympathy upvotes for terrible questions. What's up with today?
 
@MichaelDodd What?
 
Lots of questions ending up +1/-(3 to 7)
Someone sees a terrible question getting downvoted and puts in a sole upvote
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman The MSE request goes back to 2012
 
2:27 PM
@Machavity Yea, exactly...
I am still wondering where's that "loud" part! :P
 
OP added translation here Can an RO remove the requst?
 
@SurajRao Pick one of us to ping. If we miss it, it can get lost in the shuffle
 
alright
sometimes we dont know who is online though
 
@SurajRao The info page can help you with that. Kinda. Gotta compare the RO list to the in-room one
 
2:49 PM
@Machavity ah thanks
 
@NathanOliver I'm probably in the minority but I just don't find the feature useful; I haven't really seen the need for it
 
@TylerH One clear use is that you can use it instead of double-indenting if you have a list with code blocks inside it. That's a clear benefit. A second benefit is that you don't have to use the non-standard HTML comments to specify language, but you can specify languages more easily by appending the language to the first triple backtick
(defining languages using a code fence is standardized in CommonMark, these HTML comments aren't standardized anywhere)
 
@IslamElshobokshy Seems like one question to me. OP just repeats himself and uses bullet points so it looks like he's asking for several different things if you don't read carefully
@ErikvonAsmuth I am aware about the double-indenting, I just don't see it as a benefit as I don't mind double indenting and as a programmer actually find it more clear when viewing the post's markup
The second benefit (language declaration) also just seems like a flavor preference to me
 
3:06 PM
@TylerH It does make it nicer if you don't have an auto indenting user script so it is probably more new user friendly.
 
I suppose. I think it's likely just so lauded because most people are used to GitHub
or whatever system uses it that is very popular
I agree there is a need to make code in posts more intuitive and add more guidance on how to get it to appear correctly, but I think the double indentation makes perfectly fine sense once you learn it
as long as they don't remove that method I am happy for the folks who love ``` as well, though
 
Keeping to some standard instead of doing your own non-standard thing is not a flavor thing imo, it's good practice. If everyone was doing weird non-standard stuff working with data provided by others would be a pain. Properly implementing standards is a goal on it's own imo
 
@ErikvonAsmuth The thing is it's not really a "standard" as I've not seen it anywhere else in the many places I write posts in WYSIWYG editors
 
Well, it's defined in the latest version of the CommonMark spec, which is better than nothing I guess. And GitHub also has implemented it.
 
I think people are assuming it's a standard because it's how a lot of people do it, but that's harmful in the same way that starting out all your web programming tutorial articles with "It's simple! Just run bower npm grunt get install <thing>"
@ErikvonAsmuth I don't know what CommonMark is, or why that is called "CommonMark spec" but refers only to "Markdown". I am aware Stack Overflow uses some WYSIWYG editor 'addon' or whatever called Markdown to help format code and that it's similar to GitHub in some way. If SO is claiming to use CommonMark and this feature brings it more into alignment with that spec, then I agree that's a good thing.
 
Well, I've always assumed SO tried to move towards CommonMark. It's an initiative to create a strongly-standardized MarkDown but couldn't use the MarkDown name because of legal reasons, and Jeff Atwood is one of the creators of CommonMark. The main platforms that use MarkDown (SO, GitHub, reddit) all have a guy contributing towards that spec
 
3:35 PM
@PearlySpencer wow nice meta you got there!, I think I will do some similar stuff for jasper-reports.
 
@MichaelDodd I saw your red dwarf link on meta and was going to swing by to star it if it appeared in here, alas it did not :(
 
3:55 PM
I am not sure if I am detecting a voting anomaly.
 
@Compass flag for mods, give as much info as you can. If they agree they will forward it to CMs who can find out for sure
 
@Compass on your profile or on a suspicious question?
 
on a question
it got closed already
 
4:19 PM
Anyone know why sometimes when I am editing top 200 rows of a table in SSMS (v17.6), and I am typing something in one of the fields and hit spacebar, it "closes" the field like I hit tab or enter?
 
@TylerH I know control space finishes a word but I think that's only intellisense, not in field editing
 
is the field a varchar or something else?
 
@Nkosi Yeah, varchar(100)
@NickA Def not typing Ctrl anything, maybe still holding Shift though because each new word is capitalized (it's a Title field I'm editing)
I never try to hold Shift when pressing spacebar, ever, but I type so quickly that I often press space before my finger has completely lifted off of the LShift key
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis there's an edit there which doesn't help
 
Even talks about capitalising data in top 200 ;)
 
@TylerH Yeah, apparently it was reported as a bug back in '09, never acted on though, so apparently Shift+Space kicks you out of edit mode, that seems like bad design
 
@NickA nice find
 
@TylerH lol, was first SO link after googling "shift space ssms" ;)
 
Yeah, I would've googled before asking a Q on SO for sure, but I just wanna make sure everyone here keeps their SSMS bug knowledge sharp :-P
 
Finding it thoroughly reminded of "What did you see?" after I saw an MSDN post with 2 messages from '07, one from '15 and another from '18 ^^
 
4:38 PM
heh
On a related note, I feel like Michael Scott vs Jim in the Office (US) on this task because I don't wanna work on the other task I have today. "Cons of Jim? Not a hard worker. I will spend all day working on a project and he will finish it in half an hour" aka me manually updating table fields hehe
 
@RiggsFolly It's unclear whether that's a typo as of yet. Typically such errors are not simply mistyping by the OP but rather just a misunderstanding of how the language is supposed to work/be written.
 
5:37 PM
@TylerH Right, pity we dont have a "Think about it, after engaging brain" close vote :) I used TYPO as a replacement
 
rolled back teh codes, though I doubt it makes any difference
Thoughts on the rollback?
 
@JohnDvorak It was valid. No need for concern. That definitely should not have been added to the question.
 
 
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7:53 PM
If there is a text box on the internet, someone is going to use it: stackoverflow.com/questions/54409276/…
 
@JohnDvorak I was wondering why that one looked familiar and had a dv from me already. Turns out... stackoverflow.com/review/close/20788002
@NathanOliver But we must find him! Or we cannot complete the quest!
 
8:17 PM
Night all \o reached 60 pending flags (the biggest record for me). Spent some to
 
@double-beep nn. At your rate, you'll hit 3k reputation in no time! then the real fun begins
 
9:14 PM
Hi! Unsure where to ask this but a post owner reverted my edit that made the post better (IMHO)
 
@grooveplex Not really much you can do. The OP disagreed with the passing of the suggestion and hard declined it. Since it is their post they are allowed to do that.
 
the OP has the final say. I'm not convinced your edit is that much better, tbh
 
@grooveplex Most of your edit seems to be changing the wording and formatting. Also you remove the error message from the title, and the direct question at the end, and a tag that seems related
 
shucks, guys! oh well :)
thanks for the answer ^^
 
9:52 PM
fp feedback on autoflagged post: NGINX or Node.JS as React App Web Server? [MS]
Autoflagged FP: flagged by @SmokeDetector, @Makyen, @7ochem
 
10:18 PM
@NathanOliver can you trash this request please? OP edited to shape
 
@Adriaan done
 
ta
 
10:50 PM
(sorry, I don't know how to get to the review item)
Can you ping would-be editors of a question after their edit has been rejected? Editor in this case has no posts on the network, so I can't leave them a comment anywhere
 
11:10 PM
@Adriaan No, only editors who've successfully had their edit applied to the post.
 

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