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00:29
@Machavity @Makyen please delete my last request. thank you.
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, per request
 
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looks like link only answer
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does anyone have a 13 inch macbook?
06:22
15 inch here
@PeterHaddad mine is 15" MacBook Pro
I think my daughter has a vintage 13"
ohh okay, 15 inch is pretty expensive here, but the 13 inch is soo small.. not sure if it is good for programming lol
I used to do programming on a laptop the size of a VHS cassette, you can accommodate to the available space (though if you want to run bloatware like an IDE maybe not)
I know iBug was making commits to SmokeDetector from his phone
Rob
Rob
I've never seen anyone coding on their phone before
That sounds supremely painful
that commitment
06:25
I have 13 in macbook air and don't use it for programming. It's small indeed. But if you don't do Important user layouts 13in should work
. o O ( i wouldn't go beyond a desktop with at least two 19'' displays for serious things O.O )
. o O ( poor boys :( )
I used to have a four-monitor rig but now I travel enough that I need to be able to do everything on my laptop anyway so I haven't plugged in the cable lately
Rob
Rob
I used a 13" macbook pro for coding, though it was mainly hooked up to an external monitor to have two screens
Coding without the external monitor is fine. IDEs like visual studio make things a bit cluttered, but otherwise it's okay
large number of virtual displays so I can task-switch easily though
06:28
i usually have vs on one display and msdn on the other
@tripleee Virtual desktops don't cut it for me if i want to look at the docs while coding.
pro tip, don't maximize windows
though if you have to suffer MSDN maybe you can't avoid it
06:51
somebody had flagged that as "primarily opinion-based" (-:
 
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08:43
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09:06
@Jean-FrançoisCorbett pending edit suggestion; suggest rejecting even though the edit is good per se (because it doesn't fix the question and having it pop up in the review queue is a waste of time)
left a comment, though I suppose the submitter is not pingable until the edit is accepted?
@tripleee The OP will get pinged. But yeah, that edit doesn't solve the problem with this question, namely that it's underspecified – and also a blatant gimme teh codez.
 
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13:26
Not spam, just bad Q
IT IS MORNING
OwO
Still feels like morning to me :/
I've not adjusted well to the DST change at all
14:10
@MichaelDodd US keeps inching closer to doing away with DST
If you want to see weird time stuff
@Machavity Apparently so is the European Parliament, which means it won't have any effect on us whatsoever :(
We'd stay in DST year-round (i.e. East Coast would permanently be UTC-7)
So dates like October 5, 1582 do not exist in our reality.
But in ISO time, they exist.
Historically, the day after October 4, 1582 is October 15, 1582.
But ISO time mandates that days be consecutive, so prior to 1582, ISO time negates the existence of the Julian calendar, so events that are printed out using ISO times are either non-existent or a few days off. Thanks, Time standards :V
14:14
@EJoshuaS Is that really? Look like the answerer is giving the OP a link to the file they are missing. I'd just call that NAA, since it is link only
@EJoshuaS Reason for a red flag over a NAA?
@MichaelDodd Looks like spam to me
no
I did flag spam at first but on second look withdrew and replaced with NAA. It's linking to a github, and seems vaguely related looking at the url path, but unless it's malicious it's just a really, really bad answer
voted to manually delete. I'm not spam flagging that answer
@SmokeDetector Looks like an honest attempt to provide the file to the OP. Voted to manually delete.
14:18
@Compass That was a pretty interesting read, cheers
yup, quite an adventure through the docs
This is no time to argue about time! We don't have the time.
@NathanOliver Time for a meeting? looks for gunr
I carry my herbs in a hip holster. Thyme is on my side.
@Machavity gunr is not available right now. He is in a meeting
14:33
Ah, right. I forgot
poor gunr
it's a long'un!
oh wait, it updated
"It's almost over!"
@SurajRao I went duplicate on that one. If they want that to happen offline, it has to be via a local server on the device.
I am not sure about the dupe.. Its not what OP is talking about. Needs more info to determine that I think
@SurajRao OP has a PHP script that they want to run inside an app, no internet access available so has to be run locally in a webview, ergo an AMP server is required to run on the device itself else there's no way you're running that script
depending on the use case.. OP might really be looking at implementing the logic in the client (since OP said they want to run some part of the scripts). Needs more info
14:44
@SurajRao Fair enough, I'm outnumbered on votes anyway so it'll be standard closed rather than dupe closed.
After I voted there were 4 votes on 4 different reasons.. SO there is no out numbered
@SurajRao POB? :)
Would make for a good experiment
no.. off topic
@SurajRao No, I was saying since POB is the only option not voted against, it would be interesting to see what would happen if the vote was split with 1 in each column
14:47
ah ok
15:16
troll answer
more of the same
I knew Elon was crazy ;)
To be fair, his avatar is one of a cat.
We know how cats handle posting on the Internet
@SotiriosDelimanolis nuked
15:34
launch detected! dives
@MadhurBhaiya Self-deleted
@Compass I actually heard the game in my head when I read that. :)
15:49
Very efficient request @gnat
@gnat hmm.. the first garbage text is in html tags. Doesnt make it any clearer
I guess we can respond with sdfsgdfdfdgd in a comment to clarify any downvotes and don't get flagged as rude?
16:05
@Machavity one of the older posts you vtced came up in meta meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/376854/… headsup
@SurajRao Wow, that is old
Mid-2015? I only had 190 rep back then
yup not sure if there is a statute of limitation on these votes :p
@SurajRao Sadly I'd probably hammer it now instead of TB
@TylerH More worthy of a historic lock than closure?
16:12
@TylerH Where is NATO, I only see an edit
@Vega Edits bring a question into play IIRC
@MichaelDodd It's against the rules :(
@Vega NATO in this case means "New Activity To Old"
@MichaelDodd Historic Lock should come after closure
New answer to old?
New Answers To Old questions
16:16
@TylerH But in this case you're the one who made the edit? Unless there's another recent edit I'm missing?
@MichaelDodd yes, the edit before mine
Rule n°27
(I'm out of votes anyway so I have no say in this)
Ok, super :)
16:18
@TylerH Right, got you now
16:28
@Machavity that didn't help ...
I'll explain later ...
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm not sure if that one is a good one to use as a canonical dup. It also shows using babySex.title() a couple of times without assigning it to the variable. That issue would also cause the same behavior that the user was experiencing.
Can 20k users not delete-vote accepted answers?
I thought they could...
@SmokeDetector wat
I see lots of whitespace there
@TylerH I think I can. I think you can vlq flag them as well
@TylerH Check the MS link. The edited within the grace period.
@TylerH probably they first wanted to know whether they could create it CW this way
16:38
ah
I dunno
17:13
@SmokeDetector t-t-t-turbo trigger!
17:31
@SmokeDetector f - Seems like a valid answer for the question (run the script on the device via a locally-hosted terminal), and does not appear to be any affiliation between the user and the linked app
17:52
"I posted my code as a screenshot because Stack Overflow was blocking my post as mostly code"
@Cœur 0.o
@Cœur Bail such out with a close vote (I am using missing MCVE for such most of the time).
@Cœur Maybe about one or two more sentences of explanation would have kept the code/words ratio fine
@πάνταῥεῖ done
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs and yet someone marked it as a favorite question.
18:19
@Cœur OP themselves probably
@Compass one answer should show a burned down kitchen ... experiment failed
Just discovered a tag with spelling mistake in it. It should be postgresql instead. Is it possible to get this tag mass edited. There is only 14 questions in it. stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/posgresql-10.4
@MadhurBhaiya where do you want to retag to?
18:33
needs a t in there
@Compass do we need 10.4?
i doubt it
no big changes from 10.4 to 10.5
ok, so we retag to postgresql-10 ?
it'd be either 10 or the general postgresql
18:34
@Compass nerd snipe of the day? ;)
reading questionssss
there's only ~200 questions in pgsql-10
versus 92K in pgsql
10 is fine though it looks like EOL for 10 is 2023
generic pgsql tag should be better.
I just work here. Innocent bystander A.
does this one need [psql]: stackoverflow.com/q/52107242/578411 ?
@MadhurBhaiya Retags / tag renames like this should go through Meta. Moderators have the ability to do it all at one time, without editing/bumping each question.
18:41
ok. but it is only 14 questions. Time spent in framing a question would be more than simply retagging them :)
Ok. Somehow I managed to miss that and read the ~200 question number later in the thread.
I assume if targetting PGSQL-10 specifically is fine using the -10 tag.
the version 10 has 200, version 10.4 has 14.
@MadhurBhaiya At 14 questions, it's reasonable to fix the tag via editing (IMO). Although, I probably try a custom mod-flag asking for the rename in a case like this where there's an obvious misspelling (i.e. very unlikely to be controversial). In the flag I'd link to the correct spelling in some official document/page.
ok. will do the same if found a tag with larger affected area.
What about the tag ? It should be deleted after getting removed from all related questions ? I don't think we can delete tags !
@MadhurBhaiya will be gone at 03:00 UTC
18:48
ok
If a tag exists but no question is there that uses it, does it take up any space?
@Compass only in the history table ...
sudo drop history_table
@rene thanks
18:53
@Compass technically it is posthistory .... but if you drop that a lot more then just tags will be gone ....
sudo drop everything and run
mike drop
asks on reddit why Stack Overflow is empty
asks on Stack Overflow why Reddit is empty
@JohnDvorak cv pls: John gone crazy, yo
19:10
asks on Yahoo Answers why Reddit and Stack Overflow are both empty
asks Jeeves why he doesn't answer anymore
asks rene why there are still open questions
asks the supplier for more whisky
searches on Hotbot to find out what "Yahoo Answers" is
!!/whisky
19:15
@Adriaan No such command 'whisky'.
@Adriaan You really want Charcoal filtered whisky?
@Machavity charcoal-dried malt isn't too shabby...
@Makyen thanks for your feedback
@Jean-FrançoisFabre np. If there wasn't already an answer that focuses only on the .title() issue, then we could edit the question to fix that part in order to use it as a canonical for && vs. ||, but doing so now would invalidate that answer.
@Makyen ok I'm not going on a limb for that one. Both are off-topic. But a mod challenged me for my poor choice of dupe for another exact logical or/not issue... (he didn't reopen so I guess he's ok with that :))
21:10
I am probably going mad about all that VLQ crap, so bear with me please!
@Jean-FrançoisFabre You might want to post that in the python room.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre not closed, cannot be deleted
Well, I'm not a python room regular (yes, i know). :) I'm not going to barge in with that. Anyway, they'll get deleted eventually...
@Adriaan I may have bent the rules a little. I asked to check all negative answers (there are a lot) and delete them. Not the question itself, which is good
Also your link links to a 22 scored answer
@NathanOliver then trash it, I'll post the links to the answers instead.
21:19
50 answers, ~10 non-negative scoring. Yukes, that's a lot
Okay I'll re-do that properly :)
okay you asked for it :)
Just remember to not post it as a solid block
21:22
okay I'll save some for tomorrow :)
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Wait, you're asking for deleting an answer here? IIRC that's not appropriate here.
yup. As I often do.
Also remember that manual answer deleting should be reserved for: You may vote to delete answers in the following cases: The answer is extremely low quality: There is little to no scope for improvement. The answer doesn't attempt to answer the question; it may be a comment or a separate question altogether.
@NathanOliver those are. Those aren't answering, or in a complex and unexplainable way... and there are so many good answers...
@Jean-FrançoisFabre You might want to try the alpha version of the request generator, which enables making del-pls requests, along with other request types and scheduling an automatic revisit to the post.
21:25
OK. Just a reminder.
@Makyen Christmas is early this year :)
@NathanOliver I won't mind the slap on the wrist. Don't want to abuse.
@Makyen @NathanOliver are deletion requests beyond flagging for answers in coherence with the SOCVR FAQ/policies?
@πάνταῥεῖ From the wording, I'm not really sure what you're asking about. If you're asking if del-pls is an acceptable type of request for answers, then "yes".
21:30
@Makyen Well I thought we're moderating questions in first place.
sorry, couldn't resist to tell that...
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Let's leave the flag-able word out, shall we? ;)
@πάνταῥεῖ nope, we can request to delete answers too.
@πάνταῥεῖ We moderate all teh thingz
@NathanOliver Oki!
21:32
(except meta, it's a silly place)
@πάνταῥεῖ As I understand the history, SOCVR started out with just being about close-voting. Over time, it became about general user-moderation of SO main. There was a room meeting where changing the name was discussed, but people decided against doing so.
@Machavity sorry! nothing against anyone you know :) it's not really an insult since it's not an issue to be a f.. in the first place for tolerant people like us.
@Machavity I found it very stealthy after all for the user to insult me in a deleted answer so it would take longer to flag (maybe)
So we're all feel sync-ed again right now?
@Machavity looks like his style
@Makyen reopen/del-pls sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
21:36
@Makyen This was in the August 2016 Room Meeting. The topic was postponed from the April 2016 Room Meeting.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Well, lemme have my fun with you :3
@πάνταῥεῖ Please take note that one message was already binned
@NathanOliver Noted!
np I can take abuse. Besides I started it with your typo :) or was it deliberate :)
21:37
@Makyen I was kinda hoping to rename the room to Rene's Room of Rehabilitation Rebellion
@Machavity aRRRRg :-)
damn, key stuck.
@Machavity this is so not me: stackoverflow.com/posts/53353550/revisions annoys me even now :)
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Of course that was a typo. If I would like to emphasize a pun, that would have been looking different :3
21:43
@Masoud I'd go for off-site recommendation instead
@Adriaan That also makes sense.
@Masoud I don't think so, personally, for either of those reasons ^; asking whether there is a function in a language to do some stuff should be OK
But maybe OP is just misusing the term 'function'
22:01
(just testing new Makyen script, that's soooo good, thanks for this)
@Makyen can you show the delpls text only if the question has either -3 score or 2 days old? that's minor. great work.
user3956566
22:21
@Jean-FrançoisFabre that term is pejorative in some places at least.
@YvetteColomb of course it is. Everywhere where english is understood. I would have prefered "Jean-François Fabre is an (something else, rude but not involving minorities)"
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre or just not at all :)
Yeah, that too. I'm too nice :)
Guy admitted he created 4 accounts already, and was ranting. I had to tell him the truth... now he'll have to create a 6th account. Unless you IP block him..
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre can I have a link pls
user3956566
22:29
thanks
"Very disappointed, already got 3 of my accounts banned on here, I keep giving this site a second, a third chance, but people just can't stop acting like ***** on here". Look who's talking :)
Some people never question themselves... they just accuse the entire world instead.
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre tell me about it. I'm literally shaking my head
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre exactly!
@SmokeDetector !!/blame the entire world
Take that, entire world.
22:34
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Thanks. Part way through writing a response, I realized I wasn't sure exactly what you're asking for. There are a couple of places that you might mean.
There's the text that's used for the button to open the request UI, which is currently "reopen/del-pls" for closed questions. This could be changed to be just "reopen-pls" when the question doesn't qualify for delete-votes.
The other place del-pls is shown is in the drop-down list of user-selectable request types. Currently, if the question or answer doesn't qualify for delete-votes (questions: score > -3 and < 2 days after closure; answers: score > -1) and the user selects del-pls as the type of request (and has a request reason entered), then it shows a warning and requires the user to click-through a confirmation dialog to send the request.
If you're meaning not having del-pls as one of the available request types, that would prevent people from sending a del-pls in some very limited, permitted circumstances.
@YvetteColomb make sure that this guy only accesses StackOverflow through a Dora the explorer computer
You may also be asking for a user-option to not show del-pls unless delete-votes are possible.
So, I'd appreciate it if you would clarify your request a bit.
@Makyen I may be asking for the Moon. Ignore me. It's very good already
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre poor Dora. Why would you do that to her? :p
The computer should have the 'A', 'F', 'G' letters removed so the user isn't tempted to offend minorities again.
22:36
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Thanks. However, I do want to hear things where it might be improved, which includes first impressions. I'm just not sure what you were suggesting.
@Makyen I mean: when the question was closed, say, 1 day ago, and has a 0 score, the "delpls" text appears whereas you cannot delete it. But that's really minor.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre "minor" is an very opinionated. We do not allow opinions here on SO.
okay, you can close my request as POB.
Already -pls'd it :p
that was nitpicking. If you don't want stupid bugreports, just don't ask for feedback
22:40
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Am I correct to assume that you mean as part of the "reopen/del-pls" text that's used for the button to open the UI? It's quite reasonable to change that to just "repoen-pls" during the time where the question can't be delete-voted.
@Makyen that.
if not too difficult.
I just voted to close this Q as a duplicate, and then the OP edited to tell me it's not. However, one of the answers, which I mention in my comment, has been written by the author of the toolbox and does address the question by the current OP as well. Is the dupe still valid if the questions are not the same, but one of the answers on the target does answer the question?
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I've added that to the to-do list. Thanks for bringing it up.
@Adriaan debatable. meta has something on this: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/366716/…
@Makyen np glad to add some more workload on you
@Jean-FrançoisFabre :-)
22:45
@Jean-FrançoisFabre ta, added that to the comment
user4639281
So many problems seem to arise from people either not reading/comprehending the documentation, or just wanting to do things that are a bad idea.
user8682794
@Makyen my last cv-pls should have been No MCVE. Is there a way to change that?
@TinyGiant tell me more. global variables are already plain evil in MATLAB, becuase anything and anyone can overwrite them without telling you, and in parallel processing you have sometimes 20 threads accessing the same variable. What's wrong with just simply passing it, instead of making it globally available for read and write?
@PearlySpencer The only way is to move the original out of the room and have your re-post with a different reason. I'm fine with that, if you want that to happen.
user8682794
@Makyen Cool will issue a new cv-pls then. thanks!
22:52
user4639281
@Adriaan I know right, bad eyed deers
23:07
@TylerH Thanks Tyler. I still consider that border line off-topic (leaning towards being one) Cheers.
@TylerH p.s. looking at the comment section and reading it, you'll see that answers/comments are not following a specific path. Everyone throws an idea, so I still think the opinion based is the right reason for that question.
@EJoshuaS !!/allspam <UID-URL> works too
(too late now - just for future)
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs We're not allowed to use that in this room, though, are we?
@EJoshuaS No such command '/report'.
~o~ I would think it would be preferential to !!/report 3 times. Makyen will know that better than myself.
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs That's a good question, actually - I thought that it wasn't allowed, but I could be wrong. @Makyen - any thoughts?
23:21
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs @EJoshuaS No, !!/allspam is specifically not permitted in SOCVR. It was discussed in the August 2016 Room Meeting.
@Makyen I thought that that was the case. So in cases like that we should just report 3 separate times?
@EJoshuaS You can (technically, you can report up to 5 posts in one !!/report command), but if it starts to be an issue that's user-centric, it's probably better to report into Charcoal HQ. If you're using the alpha version of the request generator, there's an option to always direct the SD commands into Charcoal HQ, which also enables sending !!/allspam/!!/reportuser there (actually it's enabled if the room you're sending the request to is not SOCVR).
23:48
Anything to do about sth. like that abload.de/img/untitledneefs.png ?
was written as a comment to stackoverflow.com/a/53402998/3975177 before the user deleted it (or it got removed by moderation).

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