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3:39 AM
@mickmackusa Protected is all I can do directly. But you can down vote junky or repetitive answers. If they are negative score you can ask for 20k deletion in here
 
Morning
 
4:06 AM
I put a couple questions in the queue.
 
4:20 AM
If a post is partially legitimate and partially spam, we should edit out the spam, right?
 
4:49 AM
here: stackoverflow.com/questions/51109863/… I had closed as duplicate but someone reopened & answered. This C format specifier question is clearly a duplicate. I'll let you judge, moving on.
 
5:05 AM
or unclear will also do
 
5:30 AM
^rude edits.. Tried rolling back
have mod flagged
 
@SurajRao me to
 
Waffles™
 
disengage people.. Dont feed the troll
 
 
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7:06 AM
@rene @Makyen on the burnination spreadsheet - who do I thank for doing the bits that were assigned to me btw? :p
 
7:22 AM
@JonClements I think @Machavity took most of it: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/165597?m=42223964#42223964
 
7:34 AM
@rene thanks
 
The last one should be simple enough with CSS
 
This very short code-only answer which does accomplish what OP was looking for came up as an audit. I was suspicious and checked the page first, so I passed the audit, but I thought that lack of explanation was not a sufficient reason to delete an answer, especially if the code is easy to understand, as a bunch of meta posts have said.
 
7:52 AM
@CertainPerformance Hmm, I'm not thrilled but I hardly ever are about javascript.
Maybe @JohnDvorak or the others want to chime in if undeletion is warranted
 
I wouldn't delete that, indeed
 
It's quite elementary. Not a great answer (a bit repetitive, no explanation), but probably not something that should be an audit
 
There are plenty other answers, though
so perhaps not worth undeleting
 
Is there a way to get it off of the audit list so others don't get tripped up by it?
other than undelete
 
Not that I know
 
8:01 AM
@CertainPerformance it's been used twice already.... probably not likely to be used again...
 
8:26 AM
Morning
 
Ola
 
Helluuuuuu
#mrsdoubtfire
 
Ron
Morning.
Got a beach towel from a company. Loyalty - ensured.
 
8:47 AM
@Ron Someone will interpret that as bribery/corruption, report you to HR and get you fired :)
 
Ron
Lol, everybody got one.
 
@Ron If we follow the logic of @MartinJames everyone will get fired :P
 
@JohnDvorak I think the most likely outcome is people will comment a lot less and instead just use niceness-agnostic moderation tools exclusively
Like downvotes and close votes. Can't be cited for being unnice if you just don't comment
 
@AndréKool Oh.. is that a bad thing, then? :)
 
Ron
@MartinJames I've been going thorough some Autosar C++ guidelines. What you make of it?
 
8:55 AM
@MartinJames I never said it was a bad thing (or a good thing), just a thing
 
Ron
There was a cool movie called that and a not so cool remake.
A prominent Delphi contributor is pushing 0.5M. Nice.
 
@Ron Dollars?
 
Ron
Vespene gas units ;)
Reps.
 
\o morning
 
9:05 AM
o/
 
Ron
\o
 
Is it ok to cv-pls a question were the last activity was the community user bumping the question (so no "real" activity in my eyes)
 
@Ron I wish I could get some of his points... at times it kills me not having Delphi dupehammer...
 
Ron
@DalijaPrasnikar You are close.
 
@Ron Yeah, but I don't answer as much as I used to...
 
Ron
9:10 AM
I see.
@DalijaPrasnikar Are you still active on Emba forums?
 
@AndréKool If it was bumped to the homepage, then yes that counts as activity wrt. posting a cv-pls. The Community user bumping it to the homepage puts the question in front of people and makes it much more likely to get answers.
 
@Ron Since I am Embarcadero MVP, yeah I would be... but they killed the forums... and new ones are major PITA. We have nice G+ community though...
 
G+, is that still a thing?
 
@JohnDvorak depends on whom you are asking :)
 
Ron
9:18 AM
@DalijaPrasnikar I see. There is also a 6k+ strong Delphi Facebook group.
 
Delphi developers on G+ are pretty active plus.google.com/communities/103113685381486591754
@Ron Facebook... what is that???
 
Ron
Lol. Indeed.
 
9:50 AM
Hi
 
Ooh. I thought I wouldn't have permission to chat. Awesome
o/ @MichaelDodd
SO... how are things?
 
Hi, if it's your first time here, I'd advise taking a look through the FAQ at socvr.org first
 
Oh wow. That's an interesting graph. It's over 9000. I guess my pwr level is too noob be here!
 
Always lovely to see comments like: "I don't know what this line of (my own) code does. I just copied it from here."
 
9:59 AM
@mittenspair You're welcome to post a request or ask for a second opinion if you think a question is off-topic or if you're unsure if something should be flagged, but this room is generally for those with close-vote powers (3000 rep) or those close to that rep level
 
Progress chatroom on the IBM burnination
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@MichaelDodd IIRC the typical rep requirement is 1k, not 3k. And we make exceptions. Nevertheless they are advised to spend some time her to see how this room works.
 
@Olaf Noted, cheers for the clarification
 
Hah, I guess I'm the all-time record holder in this room for being the most longer sub3k flagger
Also being the most rene'd one around here...
 
@kayess Whats your record? (I want to know what to beat :P)
 
10:09 AM
@AndréKool not sure I remember, but many-many months
 
@kayess Proof?
 
@Olaf the existence of rene
 
@kayess That's an indicator, not a proof :-P
 
@Olaf my bad :P
 
grrrr, now I'm curious. How to search the first time I posted/entered this room?
 
10:12 AM
try searching you username in transcript
 
@AndréKool Hmm, I thought it might show in your profile. It does not. But interestingly you are currently in this room, but not frequently. Must be ghost images I've seen the last months.
 
@kayess Only shows when someone else mentioned me. First time that happened was march 30
 
10:44 AM
@EJoshuaS Just CVed bunch of these questions
 
So according to the meta linked to in the comment, should this question be flagged as spam?
Aaaand it's gone
 
@MichaelDodd I think yes, I've flagged it
@DalijaPrasnikar It will be deleted by Roomba in 10 days
 
11:02 AM
@VadimKotov yes, it will be deleted... but do we really need to keep that Q here for that long?
 
@DalijaPrasnikar I think the common workflow is to post delete-pls for questions that are not picked by Roomba. Just saying.
 
Got that... for regular bad questions... IMO some deserve faster removal
Question asks about how t do something illegal - breaking down into some site and downloading content that is not readily available. I don't think it is mod flag worthy (maybe I am wrong) but fast deletion would also send a message such Q are not acceptable here
 
@AndréKool a follow-on "I read these questions that answers my own, but I thought I would post my own question just in case it is very slightly different"
So, for a newb, do you still recommend I flag things posts/comments to take down? or is there an auto-bot (autobot) for most flags anyway.
 
@mittenspair If you believe the question is already answered elsewhere, flag it as a duplicate. It'll then appear in the Close Vote review queue for 3k users.
@mittenspair Other than some spam posts (handled by Smoke Detector), flagging is an entirely manual process from users of the site
^ Like that one up there picked up by smokey, that can be flagged as "Rude or Abusive"
 
11:28 AM
@MichaelDodd Does SD flag itself? I thought it just reports them and users still have to do the actual job.
 
@Olaf Apparently so, up to 3 IIRC
 
@MichaelDodd So let's just hope no one on a SE site asks about a bassoon using the German word.
Or about holiday in a certain small Austrian town/village.
 
@Olaf The one that keeps getting its sign stolen by tourists?
 
@Olaf Would be interesting to know how you can ask a question about that, that is on-topic
 
Rob
Eh, happens all the time when people are trying to implement profanity filters
 
11:35 AM
I think there's a whitelist filter for a certain obfuscated programming language beginning with "brain"
see also: The Scunthorpe Problem
 
Rob
Or when pasting their code with a few.. less than PG13 code comments
 
@MichaelDodd Yeah, I think that's the one. The North-German Brazil and California are less likely en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schönberg,_Plön
@AndréKool Just open a German-speaking site for musicians and wait for the complaints.
@Rob Welcome to the EU!?
@MichaelDodd You mean ? Yeah
@Rob Less?? Are we supposed to use Kindergarten language now? (better not, some of the kids know weird words)
 
Rob
Heh, yeah, 'less' probably wasn't the word I was after here
 
@Rob Ever met a 12yo who is PG13 compliant? Strangely, it's just adults who are (trying).
 
Isn't PG13 (officially) only for movies in USA?
 
11:45 AM
We have 12A, which is effectively the same thing
 
@AndréKool It is. Germany has it's own system (Freeiwillige SelbstKontrolle (FSK, "voluntarily self-control - we try to avoid the word censorship for historical reasons). IIRC there's steps for age 0, 6, 12, 16 and 18 plus an index of media which is legal, but may not be promoted or shown in public in stores. Plus there are (partly) more strict rules for a step. For instance the Germany(!) version of Fallout 3 had blood, limb-cutoff and drugs removed to get a FSK16 instead of 18.
The Austrian and Swiss versions were not affected, they were indexed like the English version (which I bought here nevertheless). It has been removed from the index with the Ultimate edition.
Similar nonsense for F.E.A.R.
 
@Cœur done
 
@Cœur done
 
@JonClements @NileshRathod Thank you.
 
Plop everyone
 
11:58 AM
o/ undercover [redacted]....
 
:3
What's up Jon?
 
@PaulStenne not a lot - ssdd I guess :) How about you?
 
I found a weird tag approval by 李哲源: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/20206303. But it's a user with 36k reputation... is there anything I'm not understand well in this suggested edit?
 
@Cœur Probably a robo-review
 
@Cœur Well, the edit has been rejected, so forget it. Unless you see a pattern.
Hmm, that tag looks like a candidate for burnination to me. Do we really need tags for such components? (and yes, I dislike the tags for C functions, too)
 
12:09 PM
And I found a third case, well, I'll flag the user.
 
@Cœur Ok, that looks strange. But remember we don't moderate users, so you have to take action on your own judgement.
 
@Cœur Isn't an excerpt supposed to explain when to use a tag?
 
@AndréKool It 'might be helpful in the info text, but not the popup-text (less as it#s not formatted well). Plus this does not describe what the tag is for (and the code is far from being obvious).
 
Saw this on Dilbert comments and had a chuckle
> They say that offense is the best defense. If you can't answer a question, be offended by it.
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@Cœur Did you have a look at the editors, too? I agree I smell old fish.
 
12:19 PM
@Olaf No, I did not. And I'm not aware that making bad suggestions should be manually scrutinized: I believe that Stack Exchange admins have tools for over-rejected suggestions.
 
@JonClements Getting ready to go back to France
Got my first ever job
At my own company even
 
@Cœur I think you missunderstood me. Didn't I say I agree withoyu there is something fishy? And it's always a good idea to help the mods as much as reasonable. Though, what I actually meant was to point you at more possible indicators for problems so you need not to ask next time (not that I think it's not ok to ask).
 
Q: "I'm using X, how to do Y". A: "Try to use X". Comment: "That's not answering the question". Flag as Not-an-answer: "declined - flags should not be used to indicate technical inaccuracies, or an altogether wrong answer" -_-
 
@Cœur This is a valid decline
NAA is for stuff that is not an answer whatsoever
 
@Olaf Oh, OK. Well, it's certainly nice to help mods in investigations, but we don't have the same tools at our disposition.
 
12:26 PM
The cases where you can use NAA or VLQ are very limited....
 
Answering "use a '<div class="foobar"></div> to wrap your element" to a C question is still an answer
 
OK, are there delete votes on answers at 20K? (I forgot, and I don't have 20k to verify)
 
NAA is for "asdfasdf" or "Please help I forgot where my hands are" content
 
@Cœur yes I believe so
 
@PaulStenne How to remove an utterly useless Q: "I'm using X, how to do Y". A: "Try to use X".
 
12:30 PM
@Cœur You can't see the author of a proposed edit? Well, I have the same privs like you and I can. sigh to be clear: two wrong accepts of the same user for the same author rings a bell. If your third mentioned review also has the same author, that whould become a bell tower.
 
@Cœur downvote and if possible delete vote
 
@PaulStenne Finally opened Le Écureuil de Lance?
 
@PaulStenne woot woot ploppy woot!
 
@Bugs So it requires 20 000 reputation.
 
@PaulStenne Also for link-only answers as the links can become invalid anytime.
 
12:31 PM
@Cœur What Bugs said
@Machavity Almost =)
 
Time to answer duplicates to raise my rep faster. :joke:
 
@Cœur correct
 
@JonClements Yes! Still can't believe how lucky I am
 
plop @PaulStenne
 
@Cœur isn't that what we should all be doing... :P
 
12:32 PM
Plop Mag~ Woaaaah what happened to the smiley face now
 
@PaulStenne Champagne's on you then my friend :)
 
You don't want to know
 
@JonClements ... after a year in Eastern Europe I think I'll stick to water for a bit
 
@PaulStenne same thing that happened to a squirrel apparently... :)
@PaulStenne "water".... ummm.... that's code for "vodka", right? :)
 
@JonClements Until I come back to Framce, yes
Although in here it's more Palinka and Tsuica
@Magisch I totally do.
@Magisch Nah honestly by the colour code I thought you were Andy at first
 
12:35 PM
Morning
 
Afternoon
 
Evening.
 
hah, no
 
Plop
 
oh look, it is a disguised spearrel
 
12:40 PM
 
looks like the comment is gone?
 
Ah yes, mod cleaned up
Closing onto 4000 global flags with 99.53% success rate
 
@kayess How many aged away?
 
@AndréKool See yourself: puu.sh/ARQEm/6c7b64f484.png
 
Should link-only tag-wiki be approved or rejected? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/20224768
 
12:44 PM
@Cœur Don't have experience there but as with answers if link dies, there will be no relevant info left...
 
@Cœur reject
 
@kayess I'm on the side where we have Internet Archive and where a link to the official page is better than no description at all of what it is about. But if the community considers it "too superfluous", then I guess it's... "reject"
 
@NathanOliver sssh.... there's spies everywhere :)
 
:) and a stealthy puppy
 
@kayess Nice, that looks a lot better than my stats
 
12:49 PM
@AndréKool that will come with time... you wasted on a website on teh interwebz :)
 
@kayess Where do you see those stats? I have a vertical display for one website at a time, while you get an horizontal display for all websites of Stack Exchange.
 
@Cœur thats 404
And yeah @Sur got it right
 
@techraf question seems to be on top: "How to Install MySQL to 4 different server boxes in a single script?"
 
People have been busy. The queue has a lot of Qs
 
1:26 PM
If you have less than 3k rep, how many posts can you flag to close a day? max 50 or the total number of flags you have?
also, morning
 
@gunr2171 Afternoon and I think it's 100 (my max flag amount)
 
ok, thanks. just wondering
 
@gunr2171 You can earn up to 100 per day. Everyone starts off with 10 and gets more flags when they have flags accepted.
 
@gunr2171 Once you hit 15 rep, you start with 10 and work up to 100. I believe that's solely based on sustained flags
 
Yeah, I didn't know if it was 50 (== max close votes per day) or the number of total flags you have (up to 100)
 
1:28 PM
But I have to say it's hard to burn all 100 flags in a day
 
@Machavity Yes - I don't remember the exact formula, but it's definitely based on successful/accepted flags, not rep
 
hiya @gunr \o how are you doing meetings today?
 
@PetterFriberg Natty has 100 flags per day, right?
 
@Machavity as max per day yes, she has crossed the 10.000 helpful flags count ;)
 
1:30 PM
And Natty has 53 rep. Thanks for confirming
 
@Cœur Ok, so why code then?
 
I think you got an extra flag for every 10 marked helpfull
 
@Machavity twitter.com/SOBotics/status/1005284828177051648, was the celebration... but she does never max out...
 
@EJoshuaS Actually rep also gives flags : bottom of the page
 
@PetterFriberg Really. Woulda thought she hit 100 per day
 
1:33 PM
nope, the auto-flagging is fairly strict now, specially since we have users in room flagging, hence we don't really need a lot of automatic help.
 
They do flag? ; )
 
@Machavity I count like 20 auto flags today and like 40 yesterday.
 
just processed 35 [ibm] items in the cv queue. empty for me now.
 
@gunr2171 Who are you and what have you done to the real gunr!
 
@JonClements The real gunr is stuck in a meeting, I'm taking over
 
1:38 PM
ahh... makes sense... that's fine then...
 
@Machavity hmm to be honest I'm not really sure she has 100 flags, for sure more then 60 and I have always been assuming 100 since you get 1 flag for each 10 helpful with max 100... is there a place in profile where you can see how many flags you have?
 
@JonClements The first clue it was fake gunr is he one-boxed...
 
@PetterFriberg you can try and flag something and it'll say at the bottom of the dialog how many you have left
 
ok let me do that..
 
@PetterFriberg Only place I know of is the flag dialogue box. Only shows remaining
 
1:40 PM
and it's 1 flag per 1k rep and 1 per 10 helpful up to a max of 100
 
@Machavity Yeah she has 84 remaining... with the about 20 flagged.. that makes 100.
 
@JonClements Either you are wrong or the help page is..... (that says 2k rep)
 
@AndréKool where are you looking?
 
@JonClements here bottom of the page
 
oh... maybe I'm confusing that with one more delete vote per 1k rep then...
 
1:43 PM
Yeah, deletes do work on 1 per 1k above 10k
 
anyway to get 100 flags it's enough to have flag privs (15 rep)
 
2:40 PM
 
3:24 PM
@kayess That entire comment thread is turning into a dumpster fire. Mod-flagged.
 
I've hammered it. Can be deleted
 
3:43 PM
Rollback war's kicked in, mods will be alerted soon enough
and there we go
 
It's gone now. 20k-ers to the rescue
 
fight, fight, fight!
 
right, time for a sunny drive home, followed by an anniversary weekend in central London. Later all <3
 
o/
 
\o
 
3:44 PM
o/
 
has the rep number in the top right always been misaligned vertically
 
which page?
your profile info in the top bar?
 
all pages, my rep number is appearing slighlty above the badges
yeah in the top right
 
This is what I see
 
I swear its not been like that, because now I can un see it and im stressed lol
@gunr2171 interesting mine is not like that
 
3:47 PM
which browser?
 
Chrome
 
I'm chrome 67 W10
do you have userscripts installed?
or custom styles?
 
I will post screenshot, lmk if it looks unaligned
no custom styles
 
@PeterHaddad Can I get some backstory for this? Is it just a case of a hidden requirement and a good answer that doesn't fulfill that requirement?
 
Does it look misaligned? i.imgur.com/l9cubri.png
 
3:49 PM
no
maybe
 
it looks slightly misaligned to me
 
it seems to be aligned to the top but i dont know
 
Badge counts seem a pixel too low
 
does incognito stop all extensions?
 
by default yes, unless you've explicitly told extensions to work in incognito mode
 
3:51 PM
incognito same thing
 
This was asked on meta meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/370553/… (related to that question, that's why it has many views). But I dont think the questions is gonna benefit anyone in the future, that is why I asked about deleting it. @JohnDvorak
 
mozilla it looks fine
 
on chrome, zoom to 175%, does it still look bad?
 
yep
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I hope you don't have OCD
 
3:55 PM
Open 10 tabs of SO in Chrome. Then 5 Facebook and 15 Google. Can you still get to the SO tabs quickly?
 
no, but it is stressing me out :D
 
re-install windows
(^ I hate when people give that advice when I'm troubleshooting, btw)
 
I refuse, I left windows years ago
 
Just install Ubuntu. The OS for Real Men(tm)
 
There are 3 reasons I still use windows:
 
3:57 PM
I am on Ubuntu :(
 
You can use ubuntu in windows now: docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10
only terminal though
 
1 - video games. To much of my library is windows-only
2 - Full Visual Studio. Visual Studio Code is a nice attempt but no where close to the same feature set.
3 - VR. Linux support is coming slowly.
2
 
Yes only reason I have a windows box still.
All my work is done on this laptop with Ubuntu
 
@PeterHaddad just be aware that it re-writes linux kernel commands into the windows equivalent, and it's not a perfect translation.
Docker does not like WSL, for example
 
yes I know
 
4:00 PM
It's good for quick utilities, like ansible, though
 
I use it for my hobby projects. Ubuntu is a much nicer C++ dev environment than regular Windows
None of the tools I use break under the WSL, thankfully
 
@gunr2171 Point 1 (games) is also the mostly mentioned reason to use Windows. Most state MS Office as the second reason. Ask which features they missed in LibreOffice I typically get some long "ehm … … … but I could need them!".
 
are you on 18.04?
 
@Olaf I use Google Drive WAY more than Office :)
 
@gunr2171 same, I have not used MS office in a long time. Either Libre or Google stuff
 
4:04 PM
afk lunch
 
@gunr2171 I normally have the opposite experience: Every time I have to use MS Office at a customer's site, I miss the easy template-formatting and the toolbar, etc. of Libre. Since the ribbons I try to avoid MSO like liver juice (never tried that, but the idea alone moves my lunch upwards).
@gunr2171 Hope no liver ;-)
@Alec No, thanks. I keep my documents for myself.
 
@Olaf if someone wants my google drive and docs, they can have at it. Atleast I'll know there is some kind of peace somewhere because they are accessing a few resumes and essays
 
@Alec Let me guess: you have nothing to hide from anyone, right? sigh I really wished they taught at least computer students something about the StaSi, GerStaPo, CIA (and it's predecessors), etc.
 
@Olaf Hey, you put my first initial and last name back together <shakes fist> ;)
 
@Olaf well not on my google drive atleast
 
4:19 PM
@NathanOliver So I better said "Hope not NO's liver"? Of course. I hate liver :-P
 
That reminds me I have to think about food for the weekend. Any suggestions anyone (no intestines, please)?
 
@Machavity Ok, thought I was helping. Sometimes I just give up. Can t get it right for trying
 
4:40 PM
@Nkosi the main part of the question isn't asking for off-site resource, so it's not the correct reason to pick
 
@Cœur Ok noted. But with your edit it now become Opinion Based
 
@Nkosi yes, it can be closed as opinion based.
 
Can an RO remove my last request as it has now become opinion based
@Cœur Do you want to resubmit it once mine is removed?
 
@Nkosi ? What? I already voted to close as opinion based. There is no immediate resubmission possible on Stack Overflow.
 
ok no problem then
what's done is done.
 
4:50 PM
Bam... I reached the "zero votes" left for closing questions. See you tomorrow.
 
o/
 
\o
 
@Nkosi Does this still need to be moved?
 
@NathanOliver I'd say yes. remove it.
 
4:54 PM
ty
 
5:10 PM
@LW001 That user has multiple personalities
 
5:25 PM
?
 
@LW001 he is responding to himself
 
I'm out of close votes :(
 
5:41 PM
@EJoshuaS Happens from time to time :)
o/
 
Is this trolling, or just NAA?
 
@EJoshuaS should be a comment. NAA
I don't think it's trolling from first glance
 
@LW001 Comments won't prevent Roomba, just upvoted or accepted answers.
 
oh, and @EJoshuaS, the original link to the forum post from that dailyWTF link in your comment is dead, so not sure how useful it is
 
6:15 PM
vibrates through the ceiling and into the room
plop
 
Good bread!
 
@EJoshuaS are you sure? I looked at /help/roomba and has 1 or 0 comments is one criteria for the >365 days section which is the only one that would still apply?
 
waddles around
spending the past few weeks applying this magic box into the cloud
 
@LW001 The roomba will eat that question in 10 days
 
Yeah, now that it's closed of course
 
6:20 PM
The system will automatically delete unlocked, unanswered questions that have negative score that are at least 30 days old. (RemoveDeadQuestions) also would have eaten it
 
heh it had a score of 0 so it still wouldn't have been eaten, didn't find that filter though, thanks
 
No problem. I didn't know it wasn't down voted. You can see a full list of what the system will do at: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5221/…
 
This smells like a GMTC no-effort homework question. Thoughts? stackoverflow.com/questions/51215910/…
 
Yeah, TB works well
Welp, they just added some code. Possibly typo now?
 
@kayess my latest foray into flags has totally shot my helpful % rate
ate 4 declined flags today
 
6:36 PM
ouch
 
@Queen Oh yeah honey!
 
Yo, stackoverflow.com/questions/51215922/… has two incorrectly placed dupe votes...
 
@Mikhail @πάνταῥεῖ
 
6:54 PM
@Mikhail There are no votes to close as a duplicate on that. 2 for too broad and 2 for tool recomendation
 
Welp. I'm going to try to cast a vote to re-open. The question isn't bad.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ @πάνταῥεῖ if you retracted the dupe vote wouldn't you also need to remove the comment? Or did something else happened there?
 
Since he has a C++ hammer I think he just commented otherwise the Q would be closed
 
@NathanOliver ehh ... leaves
 
Don't leave, pedal ;)
 
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