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12:43 AM
@SmokeDetector That's just confusing.
 
 
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2:48 AM
@EvanCarroll It's deleted? Also, it's an off-site resource request, so it's off-topic
@Olaf @Makyen @Jean-FrançoisFabre @AnttiHaapala You helped close Evan's Q (see above ^)
 
"Also, it's an off-site resource request, so it's off-topic" ?
how is stackoverflow off-site?
 
3:05 AM
Did you read the closure message? It was asking how to do something and you gave a link-only answer. See this meta for more information
 
3:32 AM
@EvanCarroll As you''ve posted an answer to that question, you have an interest in the post and can't use SOCVR to affect that post. It's a violation of the guidelines here.
 
4:07 AM
I threw a bunch of questions in the queue.
 
@EvanCarroll While I appreciate your desire to have your question reopened, the rules for this room explicitly prohibit anyone from making a request about a post which they've asked or answered, or about an edit which they've made (#15 in our FAQ). As such, I'm moving your request out of the room, which is the normal thing for us to do with such requests.
However, I've edited your question to refocus it to be asking about the capabilities of gforth itself, rather than be asking about potential external libraries, or be about a generic "FORTH networking library". After editing, I cast the last undelete vote, so your question is no longer deleted.
In addition, given that the question is now reasonably narrow; is asking about the capabilities of an identified package; and is not asking about finding generic libraries, I've voted to reopen. Given that it's now an on-topic question, I will post a reopen request here.
 
@Makyen Yes, I think that the edit helps a lot.
 
@Makyen Nice edit. Reopen vote from me as well.
 
 
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7:15 AM
Morning
 
 
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9:27 AM
@MunimMunna done
 
@Olaf yeah as Mayken guessed a >3k user is added automatically as reviewer first time they interact with bot, the message was that you were added, since she did not find any command, you had no additional response (c.c. @Makyen)
 
9:46 AM
@rene did smokey not see stackoverflow.com/a/51221666 ?
 
@JonClements it doesn't look like it, I can't find it in metasmoke: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…
 
It probably saw the post, but didn't think much of it.
 
yeah... "weight" probably didn't trigger it - and I suppose there wasn't enough in the url to trigger a treshold eiher... Still, short answer, ending in a link maybe? No biggy - was just curious.
 
@JonClements I've added the domain to the watch list
 
@JonClements Please do report to Smokey the next time before deleting
 
9:56 AM
Umm.... I generally just ask here after it's gone... not au fait with the workings of smokey so don't want to muck anything up
flower power generally works much better :)
 
Unfortunately Smokey can't see deleted posts
 
If we give Smokey a diamond they can ...
Or bring her to 10K ...
 
We can copy out the interesting stuff but it's nicer to have an official record in metasmoke, for stats and for future analysis.
 
can quickly undelete it and redelete it if really needed but seems a little ott
 
Nah, not worth it.
 
9:58 AM
@JohnDvorak yeah, maybe we should have a add post manually in metasmoke?
 
As in, report-deleted-via-human? I'd agree.
 
Maybe it shouldn't be open to everyone
 
We'd probably want a web form rather than feeding things through chat
 
yes, that would be the best option
 
Is "knows about Metasmoke" a sufficient trust level? I'd say no, but I'm not entirely sure how much trust we do want.
 
10:01 AM
If it also verifies the post is deleted as spam, one can't really submit false reports, right?
 
Technically you can do it by adding a modify privilege to some users' SQL explorer and call it a day.
Smokey can't read deleted posts, there's no way to verify.
 
Oh, didn't know that
 
Maybe there are more fail cases then real benefit.
 
We could audit all usage
 
How many posts are spam deleted that are not seen by smokey?
 
10:03 AM
... that we learn about after the fact
 
Rob
@rene There's not a lot, but it's not negligible either I'd say
 
I'd say let's just let this one go, and teach Jon about !!/report :P
 
@rene is it fairly easy to write a userscript (as I know you've got a massive script base to start with) that takes a search result (eg: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/search?q=%5Bsite-recommendation%5D+deleted%3A1+i‌​s%3Aq) and iterates through the pages and creates a div/something of the post URLs returned?
 
@JohnDvorak if we hand Shog9 a list with post id's reported by smokey he can then do an id not in (select id from posts where spamflag = 1)
 
@JohnDvorak can't teach an old dog new tricks or something? :p
 
10:06 AM
@JonClements It's an old trick :P
 
touche :)
 
Is the puppy even privileged?
 
All mods are
 
Rob
I believe all mods are
And now I'm sure :)
 
It's interesting to know if SO mods are privileged through SE chatrooms, but they should be through SOCVR at least
 
10:08 AM
oh, yeah, forgot about the diamonds
 
@JohnDvorak SO mods have diamonds on chat.SE as well...
 
oh, nice
 
(basically, all mods have a diamond on chat.SE but only SO mods have a diamond in chat.SO)
 
And how often do you go to a random Chatroom on SE and freeze it, just for fun?
 
@rene right... for deleted questions in the last 2 years (37 of 'em) - there's 1 that's blatantly non-sense and mis-use of the tag... the remainder are about "docker", "program design", "cms's", "learning resources", "documentation (where to ask about getting it)", "best practices", "computer hardware", "games consoles" and "databases". So all tech-related one way or t'other
 
10:19 AM
Okay, that is kind of what I expected
@JonClements are those primarily user deleted or deleted by 10K-ers?
 
@rene looking at a sample - mostly roomba'd and self-deleted. You've even closed a couple of 'em :)
 
Bad me ;)
 
Does show though, that for common questions relating to tech, there's some dupes out there: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/354189/…
 
it would be strange if that wasn't the case by now
Maybe we need to add some often used dupes to the tag wiki
 
@rene It's an idea... however, reality is that no-one really reads them...
 
10:54 AM
@Machavity For good reason. And the edit does not make the question any better, it's now just too broad. Seeing it's reopened and who did it makes me wonder if we use two different measures for questions. One just has to complain loud enough to get their question on-topic? Well, I can't VtC anymore, but the answer is NAA aftter the edit (link-only).
 
11:14 AM
@PetterFriberg Is that intended? I'd actually expect it to ignore messages which cannot be parsed (or post something like "pardon, I don't understand"). I'm okay with the addition, but it was actually just me clicking the wrong post for a reply. This happens sometimes if a new post is shown just the moment the arrow is clicked.
 
11:35 AM
Ooo... I passed a CV audit... yay me
 
[tosses a ninja puppy snack]
 
woot
 
..and it's now morphing as the OP adds more info from its homework assignment. Another pointless h/w timewaster:(
 
11:55 AM
and I ran out of CVs.. there were a lot of IBM ones today in the queue...
 
Ahh... wondered why I only saw a couple when filtering for 'em
Don't know how you guys manage to use 40 every day (and so early on in the day)... I've got to 56 and I want to scream :)
 
@JonClements European users start down and close voting earlier.
 
@MartinJames The joghurt is strong in this one.
 
@Olaf It has an O-positive flavour to it.
 
@Olaf probably it would be better to first check if actual command, but yeah current code is get access level of user, (if not registered auto add as reviewer if >3k, since close vote bot), then get command, then check access level of command and compare to access level of user. A quick fix would be to remove the message that you have been added, but soon Sweden-England so yeah it will have to wait
 
12:01 PM
@Olaf What to do? I downvoted the cucumber and it just added more code:(
 
@PetterFriberg I don't think it's good just to not send the message. If a bot takes action on a user, it has to tell them.
@MartinJames Unfortunately we're not allowed to make sandwiches or salad from them. Modern times …
 
@PetterFriberg You're gunning for England, right :p
 
@JonClements Germany, of course.
 
I'll give you 10000 to 1 odds they win this year if you want? :)
 
@JonClements :D, we will whip censored by newest CoC
 
12:06 PM
@JonClements I've long ago given up such depressing activity. I'll watch the score on a browser instance tucked into the screen corner, that's about as much as I can take.
 
@JonClements are you watching it?
 
I love the WM: I was shopping yesterday evening and the supermarket was almost empty, the streets mostly, too.
 
@Olaf lol
 
I don't even need to do that... my neighbours will tell me whether there's a near miss or a goal against or for England :)
@PetterFriberg Probably not... I'm more a tennis guy :)
(it's much easier to catch a tennis ball in your mouth and run off with it than it is a football)
 
Someone at last asked it correctly return a value from asych function - closed already, but never thought someone will ask with almost exact title :P
 
12:08 PM
Sweden has been doing incredible well, first Italy out, then Germany and Switzerland all with not even 1 top player, so yeah now it's England's turn :)
 
@Petter yeah... I've been told it's been a really odd world cup
 
Not sure if odd, but for sure on side (in playoff) there are the top teams and on the other (a part from England, since I don't wan't to offend you) there are the outsiders.
 
@MartinJames HBey, they fullfilled my expectations: as normal they completely managed to crash the good impression the WM in Berlin left to the public and re-established the image of the "bad loosers" Germans. - hmm, I hope this was sarcastic enough?
 
@PetterFriberg Well, it would be nice if there were, say 2-2 after extra time and England out on penalties. That would at least be interesting and reassuringly normal.
@Olaf It'll do:)
 
@Martin yeah... England not losing in penalties... I thought I'd entered the Twilight Zone when I saw that on the news...
 
12:12 PM
I really hope that Sweden manage to beat England, my hopes are low, but also when we played against Italy and in group play (Germany, Mexico) they were low... so well, lets beat England also.
 
@JonClements Yup - I didn't even watch that last bit. After the fullTime+(addedOn-1) goal, I assumed we were gone.
 
@Petter my hopes are low - don't see why... seems perfectly reasonable that's going to happen
 
\o/ lets see we have outsider team (without Ibra) but yeah they are doing well
 
@MartinJames Yeah... I saw a news ticker that it was 1-0, then a switched back to another tab thinking: "that won't last"
Remember seeing some memes from mates that do actually care about football and one of them posted one saying "Great... so you beat Colombia 6-1... Congratulations... You do realise though, that's like boasting you beat Stevie Wonder playing darts"...
 
you mean Panama
 
12:16 PM
meh... right general area...
 
Columbia has a nice team, but true England have had "luck" the only "top" team they have played against is Belgium
 
@JonClements After all the practice in the English leagues of week-in, week-out running 1-0 games down the clock by booting the ball up the pitch and out of play, I was surprised that England failed that basic skill:(
 
You're surprised that the England team lacks basic skills? Really? That's really not a surprise...
 
Oh, hell. Seriously? Football? Here? Too? sigh I want the nerds back!
 
@JonClements Well, the unsporting, uninteresting, bad basic skills, sure.
 
12:18 PM
Anyway... "GO England... do us proud lads and not lose too badly! GO England!" :)
 
"Go Sweden, ALL in defense and launch long balls"
 
I might put a little bet on Kane getting taken out injured early on.
 
@PetterFriberg I don't think they will succeed if they just go. Better they run.
 
@Martin and a bet on Sweden to win... it's a good approach... if your team wins, you feel good even though you've lost a couple of quid, if not, at least you've got enough to get a few rounds of drinks.
 
@JonClements ..... that could work:)
 
12:21 PM
@JonClements Floern did that with Sweden vs Switzerland (he's a Swiss)
 
Anyway... I'd better get back to shouting at code... laters...
 
@SmokeDetector I edited the dots out.
 
12:37 PM
\o @πάνταῥεῖ nice to cya around.
 
Hi Petter!
 
edited so was unable to dupe hammer
 
@Petter How's the weather in Italy?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Nice, great weather, I should go outside and do a stone wall, but yeah Sweden is playing soon so I'm slacking some
 
12:45 PM
:-). Best wishes for your team!
 
Thanks... yeah let English suffer some, those traitors also left Europe :D
 
Is Belgium still at the plan @rene?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ yep, barely ...
 
Cool, you can even get the actual soccer coops at this channel :3
 
@rene What happen with The Netherlands?, same faith as Italy?
 
12:58 PM
@PetterFriberg we switched a couple of managers and now focus on qualifying for the EC 2020
 
Oranje go!
But plz don't get in our ways if we're at holidays ;)
 
1:57 PM
@NathanOliver @BaummitAugen That's probably a dupe? stackoverflow.com/questions/51223409/…
 
@SardarUsama Sounds like a trick so tutor/teacher/prof might not to find the "do my homework" request.
 
@Olaf weekends bring these
 
2:14 PM
@SardarUsama Yeah, but this one adds one indirection, including lame excuse.
 
2:30 PM
It's a 'Member for today', prolly burner, so no point in anything except close.
It's a disaster:(( One up already, so we'll lose the penalties later.
@Olaf A 7-bit string is a bit small...
 
@MartinJames Huffmann? Or RLE, expecially when it's 0terminated.
 
@Olaf lol, that coding performs even better than I thought:)
 
Anyway, plus a cucumber stating completely speculative stuff, expecially for a toolchain which most likely does not need any extra work.
 
@Olaf Oh yeah, so 6 bits for the chars. Seems a bit(!) limiting...
 
Hmm, maybe this cucumber is able to learn. Let's wait 5 minutes with a final judgement …
@MartinJames I was more after variable bit-length encoding. But then a simple 0 terminator would hardly make sense.
@MartinJames Byte me ;-)
 
2:40 PM
@Olaf :-|
 
2:53 PM
@Olaf Labradoodles?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Are those Droodles with syntax error from Labrador?
 
I hope you still have that annoying plunk! tone :)
Bazinga!
 
3:32 PM
LOL, that probably should be my upcoming book's (sub-)title:
 
@πάνταῥεῖ What's the problem with the C preprocessor?
 
No proplemz, but I also have the 100 gazillion scoville template salsa at hand :3
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I recently bought Halapeno Tabasco, but didn't dare to use it. I'm fine with the normal Tabsco sauce, but that one seems to be truly spicy hot (I tried a smal drop of the stuff).
 
"I tried a smal drop of the stuff" I'd suppose the accompanying sound was something like "Zischhhhhh"
:3
 
3:47 PM
England have left it far too late. How do they expect to lose the game from this position?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Not really. It seemed to be hotter than the normal sauce which I can stand very well purely (even a larger drop). I think I'll try it with a vegan chili I have here. Of course I will add meat to the stuff.
 
I believe the last injection I've got what templates really mean was when diving into the GNU make feature. No, that's not recursive, it's just parallel :-D
" Of course I will add meat to the stuff." LOL @Olaf
 
@Olaf I pour that on pepperoni & chilli. No better pizza exists.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ As I wrote in the ministry before: I like vegan ready-made food: no bad meat, so I can add good.
@MartinJames The halapeno Tabasco or the normal one?
 
I <3 grilled ananas :)
 
3:51 PM
And I also use the chipotle sauce. Adds a good smoke-flavour. It is quite mild, though.
 
@Olaf The Halapeno hot one from the fiery-looking bottle:)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Hmm, never tried, but it sounds like a good idea. Fresh Nas, of course.
 
Some call it syntactic sugar ;)
 
England have failed to lose. They are hopeless at everything:(
@Olaf I also spray on teh Sriracha.
 
@MartinJames As I said, I have to try this on a dish. Had a kind of chili with Gnocchi recently with fresh chilis. Pretty good, but I really need to buy gloves. All I say is: use handcream multiple times to clean your hands off that stuff before showering …
@MartinJames Sriracha?
 
3:55 PM
@MartinJames Did you put a million on Sweden to win or something - it seemed to work :)
 
@Olaf I've found that, somewhat like toast, a dropped slice of Tabasco-pizza always lands topside-down, but only if wearing thin shorts.
 
@MartinJames I thing the German team has a trainer for cheap hire (soon).
 
@JonClements Nah - bottled it.
 
@MartinJames Might be the heat, but I still don't understand what you are telling
 
Hmm, I am getting greasy now. Yikes:
@LuizFernando No problem, you're welcome. Though correct reference and evidence is an essential thing expected from attending learners in a professional manner, it's not necessarily obvious what actions should be done from your site to clarify your question. Hopefully I've shown you a way out from this obstacle asking a good question at this site. — πάντα ῥεῖ 43 secs ago
@Olaf Der Yogi sagt er bleibt!
 
4:02 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Actually * and & are not operators in a declarator.
@πάνταῥεῖ And tomorrow/nextr week he will clarify: "… on earth, I mean".
 
No probs with the triple pings, my desktop sound is just cool :3 @Olaf
@Olaf Labradoodles ...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Meh,. I don't get audible pings at all since my monitor 's HDMI input gave up for unknown reason. I use DVI now, fortunately I bought a mainboard with both. But DVI has no audio and I've been too lazy to search my big knot of cables for an audio cable.
 
I just made mine decent and still attracting recently:
 
Anyway, I'll go underwater, playing Subnautica.
 
4:40 PM
^ yep Spam
 
@gunr2171 You really still struggle with meetings? Meanwhile they think thrice if it is worth to waste my time inviting me for one Also if they really decided so I probably have an agenda coming up with what is everyone attending in charge for. :3
it is @Nkosi
 
??
 
Do you have Smokey privileges?
 
5:22 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ No I do not. It is not an issue.
 
You can just ask an RO.
 
Just realized what you were referring to when you pinged me
I know. But I don't think I am ready for such privileges as yet :P
 
@Nkosi Flagging stuff as spam is relatively low level. See my spread of network communities I joined til now.
C'mon are you kiddin'? +84k
 
5:39 PM
:P
 
 
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6:44 PM
@EJoshuaS what NATO means, I see it here often, but I have no idea
 
@EvanCarroll Please don't flag CV requests. If you have an issue with a CV, please ask about it in the room. We're happy to remove requests after discussion but flags are unlikely to be sustained
 
 
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8:09 PM
@Machavity Evan's question? when? which one?
Was this this TempleOS stuff? That was weeks ago.
 
8:27 PM
Some people care about deleting low quality dupes, some about TempleOS
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I'm just wondering which Evan question I helped to close. If there was one, it was weeks (or months) ago.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre He flagged this request
@Jean-FrançoisFabre This was his request to reopen
@rene Wasn't templeos in this case
 
@Machavity I don't remember closing that one like at all
the gforth one I remember :)
 
Was the second one you helped on. Not the first
 
Okay!
what the hell, I retracted my downvotes. Long life to gforth...
 
8:38 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Well, maybe. Depends how much more drama the answer gets
Only 3000 open questions left in ! ;)
 
This Evan fellow was pretty quiet those days. I guess that softened me a little :)
@Machavity I followed you on some other tag () but 3000, whaaat???
At my company I rewrote a program that didn't want to update. Does that count?
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm kidding. If you can toss a few votes on the CVQ that would be great but we can't full burn 3k questions. After a few more days a CM will bulk delete the tag
 
@rene winning friends I see :)
 
@JonClements Don't forget influencing people ;)
 
whistles
 
8:48 PM
@Machavity I'd delete the IBM company altogether if I could
 
@Machavity you mean filter the close queue on IBM? I can do that.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm afraid Watson can't let you do that Dave
 
@Machavity I don't need to follow the link to get the 2001 space odyssey reference. Nice.
 
Reminded of m.youtube.com/watch?v=7oWf1g33Z0o where discussion about Syria was taken as a command to Siri :)
@Machavity daisy daisy....
Good to know the guy in charge of UK defense isn't doing anything silly towards security at all
 
8:59 PM
@JonClements Epic
 
stackoverflow.com/q/51226817 CV retracted. Still not a great question, but not a typo.
 
 
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10:18 PM
I've seeded a few more questions into the queue
 
10:53 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Ehm, what is the question there?
 
Yam
GraveRobber started.
 
@Machavity Isn't the undelete a missuse of privileges? At least until he edited … 7 hours after undeleting.
 
11:48 PM
hey
 
@Olaf IIRC, undeleting like that is permitted to the (any?) OP, but raises a moderator auto-flag.
 
yup
 

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